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Title: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Pathos on May 03, 2010, 11:40:23 am
So, yep, I've been wondering what mental images everyone else gets when they think of fantasy races. Including their culture etc. So, I figured I'd ask here to find out!

A couple of fantasy races: Elves ( high, low, wood, whatever), goblins, orcs, dwarves, HUMANS especially and any more odd ones you can think of.

For me, high elves are fair, beautiful and utterly cannibalistic, a crossover from DF's wood elves. They're cultured and refined but still eat the flesh of sentient beings and pass it off as being a part of their "culture", whilst they just like the taste. Wood elves are the same, except with less fair and beautiful and more feral and dirty.

Goblins are industrious, as are dwarves, but I can't get a good mental image of a goblin. Too much WoW / D&D sourcebooks create conflicting images.

Orcs are D&D-esque, in my head, but less evil and more just neutral / chaotic. Still barbaric and enjoy a good slaughter, though.

Humans are spread all over the spectrum, but are usually pigheaded and overzealous.

Now, come on, let's see what you have!
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Virex on May 03, 2010, 12:20:21 pm
My immage of Goblins is mainly shaped by MTG. To me they're a bunch of mischivous, inventive brats. They'll build strange contraptions and tear stuff apart to learn how it works, but they also tend to do this to other peoples stuff and other peoples as well. Though not evil they have a general lack of morals and a hunger for 'fun'.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: RedKing on May 03, 2010, 01:34:39 pm
I think my image of goblins is indelibly marked by Brian Froud. Actually, my images of *most* fantasy races is heavily influenced by Froud.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Armok on May 03, 2010, 02:14:12 pm
It varies from setting to setting, morphologicaly "elf" and "goblin" are treated more like phylums than species...
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Char13magne on May 03, 2010, 02:18:46 pm
I always thought of Elves best defined by Terry Pratchett, but for those of you who havn't read his work (which is hilarious political satire in the form of fantasy), they are basically mysterious (almost ethereal) killers, with no regard for human (or any other sentient) life, and are often portrayed as sadists (This draws heavily from Nordic folklore). Other than that, my opinions generally match up with yours, and even that is pretty damn close to yours :).
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: RedKing on May 03, 2010, 02:58:21 pm
Yeah, I liked Lords and Ladies. Nice changeup against the pansy froo-froo elves. The elves in my pet project world are a bit like his, though perhaps less innately malicious. They're an advanced hunter-gathererer society that was driven from their mild, fertile homeland by a genocidal war with humans and found refuge in a subarctic taiga. And pretty much kill trespassers on sight and are harboring one serious grudge.

Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Char13magne on May 03, 2010, 03:08:03 pm
Yeah, I liked Lords and Ladies. Nice changeup against the pansy froo-froo elves. The elves in my pet project world are a bit like his, though perhaps less innately malicious. They're an advanced hunter-gathererer society that was driven from their mild, fertile homeland by a genocidal war with humans and found refuge in a subarctic taiga. And pretty much kill trespassers on sight and are harboring one serious grudge.

Yeah, Lords and Ladies! That was it, thank you. Forgot the name of that particular Terry Pratchett, they're basically what I puncuate my Dostoevskys, Dumas, and the like with. (I particularly like Dumas, and Dostoevsky's The Idiot)
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: MrWiggles on May 03, 2010, 04:04:27 pm
My version of gnomes is shaped greatly by Gnomes a large out of print hard book book that was the inspiration for David the Gnome.

(http://shessmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gnomes-book.jpg)

Dwarfs are stout drunkard industrious creatures. They live in underground cities and have a great network of clans that are also interrelated to their crafts. So much so that their craft is also there family. All jewelers are kin. So on.

Elves are bigoted elitist nigh immortal beings. They consider themselves and their tradition paramount superior to all others. They are excellent bowmen and live in the forest and are semi magical. They are also somewhat frail. They have a monarchy of some sort.

Goblins are assholes. Not evil, but just self centered, amoral beings that seek entreatment at any cost. They do anything really. They dont form armies or get in large bunches. They are very nomadic, though some find a town they call home.

Kobolds are large rats that can hold knives. Society is similar to rats. They live in family dens.

Orcs are large mostly sapient predators. They are canarvores. On their own accords they are hunter gathers living in nomadic tribes moving with their prey. Their prey is anything they can kill. So they can be trade caravans. They are also smart enough to be pressed into military service and trained to fight as one. It is not something they do on their own. They also super territorial and will fight other orc bands to protect their hunting grounds.

Hobgoblins are smart leaner orcs. They form civilizations, arms and can have a diverse cultures though they tend toward the evil side. Slavery is generally common with them.

Humans are the run of the gambit. They are everything and anything. From evil to good, from great craftsmen to dire warriors, from poets to whores.

Orges are dumb large omnivore scavengers. They have no culture, and generally are solitary.

I dont like half species. Either they are alien and different from one another (the different races) or they aren't. I'm sorta willing to go with cross breeds who are infertile.

Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Char13magne on May 03, 2010, 04:08:19 pm
My version of gnomes is shaped greatly by Gnomes a large out of print hard book book that was the inspiration for David the Gnome.


I wouldn't say out of print, I saw it in Borders just the other day, but maybe it was some new re-vamped re-print. (Ha-ha, two re's in a row!)
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: MrWiggles on May 03, 2010, 06:27:56 pm
The last time I bought a copy it was out of print for like 10 years or something like that. I'm glad it getting reprinted.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Char13magne on May 03, 2010, 07:13:37 pm
The last time I bought a copy it was out of print for like 10 years or something like that. I'm glad it getting reprinted.

Me too, it is indeed rather humorous.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Judas Maccabeus on May 03, 2010, 08:00:46 pm
Humans:  Medieval French, basically.  Centralised, feudal, fond of heavy cavalry.

Elves:  Somewhat smaller than humans, more wild and less "civilised".

Dwarves:  Short, underground-dwelling, stoic and honourable.

Goblins:  To quote Thomas Hobbes, "Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short".  Basically animals.

Orcs:  Basically anything that's big, strong, and pig-faced.

Gnomes:  Itinerant scholars, if that makes any sense.  Not necessarily the technological sort, just studious.

Trolls:  Brutes who try to shake down people crossing bridges.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Labs on May 03, 2010, 08:08:03 pm
Kobolds for me will always look like the dog lizards from DnD.
 (http://dicemonkey.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/kobold.jpg)
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Djohaal on May 03, 2010, 08:20:32 pm
For some reason my mental image of kobolds is similar to a marowak but without the bone helm (a "common" metallc, wearable helm instead), a tiny kinfe and a hairy body similar to some rat thing.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Aqizzar on May 03, 2010, 08:36:31 pm
I've never had very strong mental images of the character of fantasy races, short of however they're presented in any given franchise.  Dwarf Fortress though has changed my mind a little, if only because I've probably gotten closer to it than any particular setting.

Humans: As a student of human history, it's hard not to think of humans as infinitely variable, but the way they appear in DF inspired me a bit.  I see them as a smooth mix of British, Germanic, and Arabian styling (if only because DF humans wear turbans so often).  A little bit Monty Python, but with a High Medieval religious austerity.  And lots of horses and mauls and just some weird touches, like tanned fish hides.  Picture a guy in platemail covered in silks, skins, and iconography, wielding a giant mallet or a whip and buckler, riding an Appaloosa.

Dwarves: Likewise, I'm informed more by DF than anything, although their limited portrayal in Tolkein's books, especially The Hobbit, to me paints a slightly different picture than the usual Always-Lawful-Stone stock idea.  To me, the Three Commandments of Dwarvehood are: Do what needs doing, do it right, and don't complain about it.  And all the same, they're kinda dumb and thickheaded, even in the more Steampunk portrayals.  Unscrupulous, not at all friendly, utterly pragmatic, impervious to tragedy right up until they snap completely, and concerned first and always for the Dwarves.

Elves: I draw more on the Vulcans for Elves.  Wise, mighty, and proud of it although they'd never admit it. They've been around forever and stuck their more-knowledgeable-than-thou fingers in every pie, like a whole Illuminati race, if they ever bothered to do anything besides observe and make dramatic last stands.  But they can screw up, and screw up spectacularly when they do.  They're the cause of and solution to all the world's big metaphysical problems.

Goblins, Orcs, Bugbears, Hobogoblins, etc: Basically more human than human.  Humanity is the scrappy underdog of the "good" fantasy races; corruptible, numerous, and more intelligent than perceptive.  The greenskins (if they be green at all, which I'm not adherent to) are all the bad parts of humanity magnified.  They build ugly cities with ugly machinery and ugly animals, breed like disease, and rule underworld nations away from the sunlight.  Trolls are the comic relief, and I love the old-school bridgemonger concept more than any other treatment.

There's other races too I guess, but this is more about the "standard" ones.  One of my favorite parts of Planescape: Torment, a whole franchise about turning fantasy on its ear, was the little enclaves of sentient undead and cranium rats and minor demons.  The Cantinas and Monster Towns are my favorite locations when they show up, because they give due justice to the "other" fantasy creatures that usually spend their short lives as narrative speedbumps, and portray them as rowdy but negotiable working stiffs, my kind of people.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Vester on May 03, 2010, 08:37:37 pm
Basing this partly on DF, I guess.

Humans: Like us, except stronger and dirtier.

Elves:  Something like the Apaches in The Cannibal Owl. Use "modern" technology, but prefer to live apart from the other species. Snatch children. Kill in a heartbeat over some offense. "Savage". Also, immortal.

Dwarves:  Short scotsmen who at some point in their cultural history, crossed over with the Nordic races. Also, live underground.

Goblins: I like Tolkien's description. They can't make anything beautiful, but they can make clever things. Low-grade industrialists. The whole immortality thing gives them a hedonistic outlook on life. They like to kill because other, non-immortals, live barely a heartbeat compared to them. They kill each other because immortality is boring.

Orcs: They would be aller big and strong than everyone. The biggest and the strongest.

Gnomes: Hang out in gardens and steal your stuff. Fishing and farming is their main livelihood.

Trolls: Varied in appearance and mental capacity. They like yelling misinformation and insults.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: ein on May 03, 2010, 08:48:04 pm
Cutebolds are the image of kobolds I use.

Gnomes are steampunk.

Elves eat meat and love violence.
High elves live in cities, wood elves live in the forest.

Goblins are the best blacksmiths, but rarely have good metal.

Dwarves are like in DF.
Xenophobic loonies who would marry their beards.

Humans are humans.

Orcs are Uruk-Hai.

Trolls are furry things that guard bridges.

Fairies and whatnot are like traditional fae.
They kidnap and eat babies and lost children.

Demons are incredibly varied.
Some are evil, some are good, but almost all of them are chaotic.

Obviously there is some variation. For example, you might have pacifist elves or a goblin using dwarven steel.
Aside from inherent traits and societal constructs, assume variations for all races on par with human variation.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Sensei on May 04, 2010, 08:06:53 pm
Most fantasy races strike me as traits of humanity exaggerated, like light shined through a prism. Indeed, humans somehow feel redundant in traditional DnD settings to me (aside from being something for players to easily relate to). While humans are just humans, the other racers are just what tropers might call 'flanderized'. A human is capable of becoming pretty much anything another race can, aside from immortal. While there are much more narratively and creatively substantial ideas to take (IE dwarves have no pupils and all that jazz) that's how I 'naturally' picture them.

Humans- Like I said, capable of being anything. A group of mercenaries or bandits will usually be human; they're the only race with a significant peasant population (and thus people who will do dirt work to get out of peasantry). Most of my characters are human 'learned fighter' types. To be quite frank, this is because I always go for lots of feats and the combat expertise tree in DnD.

Dwarves- Fond of the underground and cold weather if outside, for they build most often in the mountains. They are either very raucous and disorganized (The Hobbit) or for a strict honor code and etc- there's room for both in one setting. They're the best craftsmen and drinkers, very stout and stubborn, and have magnificent facial hair. In a word, Scotsmen.

Elves- They're immortal, and magically powerful. Usually connected to nature- dark elves are just connected to cave biomes. They're very proud, and that may or may not be justifiable. Like bows, not fond of (or at least not skilled with) metal. They are lithe and have a great resistance to all natural ills. If they build shelters at all, they only use them for sleeping in.

Goblins are usually bandit clans of some sort. They're fond of slavery and almost never do their own farming and labor. They fight a lot, but aren't brave except in numbers. There are very, very few learned goblins- more common are war-chiefs. They live in camps and shoddy wooden huts.

Orcs are much like goblins, but big enough to be scary on their own. Any typical orc is tougher than a human who hasn't specifically been training for combat. They can be conscripted by evil overlords, usually by bribing the warchief. Since they are less fearful of other races, they tend to be more literate, although they usually can't read or write- sometimes they have their own runes. Fond of heavy armor and weapons if they can get (steal) them.

Kobolds are rat-like in their "culture", albeit physically reptilian. They are often slaves to larger races like goblins or orcs. They are more vicious and spiteful than the other vermin races (the group I lump goblins, kobolds, orcs, bugbears and so-on in) and like to build traps. They can be more intelligent too, if given the opportunity to do more than hunt or do labor.

Dragons- Large, solitary creatures. They're about as intelligent as dogs, and albeit more difficult to domesticate, it is technically possible. They never speak. They also nigh always breath something harmful and can fly. They have a cat like sense of territory and don't migrate much, nor do they take well to towns popping up on their turf. Can be quite ancient.

Gnomes- Slightly shorter than dwarves, and a lot lighter. Very smart, a typical gnome can read and write fluently. Gnome societies might approach modern bureaucracy in complexity. Depending on the setting they might use magic or technology, but not quite steampunk- imagine some of DaVinci's more absurd ideas realized. While their society is similar to humans it tends to be separate; gnomes and humans don't share cities well. A cosmopolitan area might have gnome doors (or human doors) if it gets a lot of travelers. Not especially prone to 'adventuring' though they love to travel and get into trouble as much as anyone else. Most gnomes would probably rather divert a river to flood a dungeon than fight the monsters in it though, and would state that that's just common sense.

Trolls- Huge brutes. Use clubs. Have no concept of conjugation. Sometimes forced into evil employment, but they usually just chill it in caves and eat whatever comes too close. May or may not have their own language, rarely speak common.

Fairies- Small, magical denizens of less-traveled areas. They're fond of pranks, but will help an adventurer on their way when the need is dire. The cruelty of said pranks varies widely depending on the setting.

<Animal>-Men- They inhabit whatever environment their given species does. They have their own language and usually aren't fond of outsiders. They live mostly by hunting and gathering, not unlike their counterparts. Depending on how intelligent the animal is, they may or may not like to hunt other civilized races, or "gather" their gold. If they're in a city, the players will often end up defending them from some racist straw man. Strangely, they don't interact with, and indeed and rarely even seen with, the non-man variation of their animal. If they do it's a deconstruction.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Demons are pretty much always evil. They might cut a deal for their freedom, but it rarely ends well. Mostly you just shank them (or if the player is feeling enterprising, they can cut a deal to get the demon's loot/powers and THEN shank them). They have a True Name that can be used to control them. Nobody ever thinks of using that name to tell the demons to destroy themselves; if they did there wouldn't be so many imprisoned demons for you to cut deals with and then shank. They look pagan gods and are associated with pagan imagery, most of the time.

Gosh, what else is there... Djinni (Genies), elementals, undead... I don't feel like covering it all. :P
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Creaca on May 04, 2010, 10:47:01 pm
Humans are normally boring in most fantasy settings, the other races already act as common human stereotypes or deconstructions of stereotypes.

Dwarves- Hard Drinkers, Harder Fighters, and the best builders around. Terrible friends.

Elves - Jerks, every one of them. Always.

Goblins - I love the Warcraft Goblins. Unapologetically evil, smart as a whip, with brilliant but dangerous and unstable machines that make up for thier physical shortcomings. They are a huge economic force, but also  have no problem strapping bombs to their chests and beating their enemies with superior firepower and numbers in a very interesting way.

Kolbolds - Fun race, I've always loved the DnD Kolbolds, Deekin, that little rascal.

Dragons - Huge Cruel Monsters that would rather tear the princess limb from limb than bring her back to the lair, they exhibit human or greater than human intelligence, but feral animalistic instincts.

Gnome - Dead, all of them. Dead.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: catoblepas on May 05, 2010, 05:56:33 am
Humans-capable of pretty much any sort of behavior under the sun imaginable, but tend towards arrogance, xenophobia, and ignorance. reproduce like rabbits.

Dwarves-More set in their ways than humans, capable of much of the same range of good and evil, but tend towards a middle ground. Xenophobic and self-absorbed.

Elves-Capable of doing anything a human or dwarf can but better. not necessarily a good thing, as they tend to be a bit 'distant' and 'not all there' They've done so many things over and over the course of their immortal lives, and tend to be apathetic as a result. 'been there, done that' sort of attitude. They don't encourage adventurous behavior in their offspring, and tend to be if not 'tradition bound' rather used to familiar patterns.

Goblins-Pretty much Tolkien's orcs, paranoid, cruel. Social Darwinism at its worst. Repressive society that levies the lower classes and presses them into work or war as needed. Government-sponsored eugenics produce leader classes (think hobgoblins/uruk-hai) Dissent violently crushed.

Gnomes, basically carbon copies of the ones shown in the book that was posted earlier, I wish I still had it...
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: LeoLeonardoIII on May 05, 2010, 01:05:20 pm
Elves are hippie layabouts who spend their days playing the mandolin in a tree smoking primo herb. They are capable of much more, especially with their long lifespans, but they don't attempt grand works. Their memories are longer than a humans' but they still forget things. So even if an Elf decided to devote himself to one art, he would reach a limit beyond which he cannot advance because he forgets as much as he learns. And an Elf with such singular ambition is so rare as to be nonexistant. Their religion is based on worship of the spirits of local natural features, like specific trees or a river or a lake.

Goblins are degenerate Neolithic scavengers. They steal culture, language, and infants from everyone around them, so in small pockets their status may be different. They tend to be ravaged by disease from more developed cultures with higher population densities, so they avoid such places. Yet they must remain close, for theft purposes. They're forced to move outward as their host cultures expand. Goblins practice a twisted and mistaken version of whatever religion is found in the nearby culture.

Orcs are pig-snouted brigands, might-makes-right culture. Fecund, their overpopulation issues are solved by huge raiding parties that go out to scour the countryside every few decades and also a wanderlust that causes packs of them to travel and hire themselves out as mercenaries. They are base, interested in physical pleasures and uninterested in philosophy. Their religion is all about the priesthood shoving everyone else around, demanding tribute for parleying with the gods.

Kobolds are tiny, ratlike humanoids with long rat-tails which they use for balance. They can digest almost anything organic, and much of their food comes from scavenging. Their small size and great stealth encourage guerilla tactics, so they employ traps and poisons and tricks. Their flesh is noxious and so predators often don't attack a Kobold. If they do, the predator doesn't eat it, which might give the injured Kobold a chance to escape. Kobolds see the value in theft, and most Kobold communities are not large enough to sustain any kind of industry. Their religion is concerned with large, overarching gods who must be appeased and avoided, and the spirits of great Kobold heroes who can be called upon for aid (a form of ancestor-worship).

Dwarves are smelly rounds of fat and hair, concerned primarily with booze and hard work. Their religion is based on personification of natural forces like Earthquakes, Magma, Minerals, and Water. The nobility is worthless, elevated not due to merit but by birth or decree of the king. But in an established society, one that works smoothly, these psychotic cells work together to do strange things. They typically mine out their home, create a few artifacts, and then they burn out. The society crashes, the survivors flee and found a new fortress, and the old one is left for monsters to inhabit. Dwarves are the flame that burns twice as bright.

Humans are Iron Age Danish Vikings or Bronze Age Mesopotamians. They are driven by their short lifespans to accomplish whatever they can to leave a mark. Building something grand just for the sake of having built it. They change slowly, and work slowly, but they have staying power because of their skills at organization. They are the tortise. Their religions tend to be in the Greek and Roman style, pantheons of humanlike gods with human conceits and passions.

Halflings are just pisspoor dwarves with beards on their feet.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Fault on May 05, 2010, 07:08:34 pm
I have thought of many fantasy settings over my life, and each had different interpretations of the standard races.
For now I'll use the depictions from my EFFIGIES webcomic:

Spoiler: world map (click to show/hide)

MAJOR RACES

HUMAN BIOLOGY
Predominantly Pale-skinned, due to climate. Otherwise Identical to real humans, barring a few differences, such as hair colour (William the human archeologist has blue hair)
HUMAN CULTURES
Followers: Ambitious and diplomatic, living in a psuedo-feudal series of autonomous collectives. Industrial Human towns line the coast of the Civilized world, and pastoral villages dot the inland plains. These humans follow a christian-based religion with an emphasis on fire and the sun (their version of Jesus was burned at the stake rather than crucified) Their religous center is a large church-city known as The Keep. Their languages in-setting are identical to English and latin.
Outlanders: A simpler, more superstitious people, who are rumoured to still follow old Pagan religions. Very little contact occurs between them and the more civilized humans. Their languages are germanic-based.

DWARVEN BIOLOGY
Shorter than humans, but far heavier and stronger. Both genders grow beards. They appear to have no pupils, but this is actually due to a second eyelid which covers their eyes to keep out dust. They have a much higher tolerance for alcohol than humans do (they must drink a lot more for it to have an effect) this has lead to a stereotype of dwarves as gluttonous drunkards.
DWARVEN CULTURES
Mountain Dwarves: The "true dwarves" as they call themselves live in an underground city Beneath Mt. Bakar. Their religion has a form of Ancestor Worship, with a strong belief in the afterlife. These Dwarves are master smiths, stonecarvers and engineers.
Hill Dwarves: Called "Dwarrow" (a dwarvish word meaning "foreigner/immigrant) by the mountain dwarves. These are slightly taller dwarves who live in and around Human society.
Cave Dwarves: The 'Duergar", subterranean boogeyman who may or may not actually exist. They are spoken of in dwarven Fairy tales as menacing creatures who kidnap lost children.

ELVEN BIOLOGY
Taller than humans, but far lighter and faster. Males rarely grow beards. They appear to have no pupils, but this is actually due to the fact that their eyes produce their own light, making the pupil and iris appear white and luminescent. Their bodies have trouble deriving nutrients from meat and dairy products. As such, they live mostly on Vegetables, beans and bread.
ELVEN CULTURES
Trowe: Warlike wood elves, with a religion based on discipline and physical fitness. They supplement their diet with various dairy products to make up for the elves' naturally weak bone strength.
Sylvans: Peaceful woodelves, with a religion based on nature worship. They are renowned for the quality of their baked goods. They smoke a peculiar herb as a recreational drug (though they claim that they ingest it for religous reasons).
Half-Elves: Umbrella term for elves who live with (and interbreed with) Humans.

KOBOLD BIOLOGY
Kobolds are savage and Ratlike, with arrow-tipped tails and bright yellow eyes. They can see in the dark and their saliva contains a mild venom which causes drowsiness. Their bodies are very inefficient at processing nutrients - they must consume large quantities of food to actually get any nourishment.
KOBOLD CULTURE
They have a pack-oriented culture predominantly centered around scavenging, infighting and stealing. They will wear stolen clothes, but can not make their own. The extent of their weaponmaking ability is taking pieces of wood, metal, bone or rock and sharpening them. it is unknown if they speak a language or not.

GOBLIN BIOLOGY
Goblins are Immortal, and are capable of going into hibernation underground for centuries at a time. They are very strong for their size. They can see in the dark, but going out in the sunlight makes them dizzy and nauseous. They can move very fast in complete darkness. They can survive losing a considerable amount of blood.
Goblins experience pain differently than other races - severed limbs and bruising cause them no discomfort, but they do feel pain from burning, organ damage, and head trauma. Goblin blood burns and coagulates when it contacts iron (but not steel!). This is very painful to the goblin.
CULTURE (just one)
Martial and warlike, with a very blunt sense of honour (you have wronged me. I'm going to kill your entire village). Goblin society is organized into three social classes, each with an associated clothing colour: yellow for working class, Red for Soldier class, blue for ruling class. The ruling class includes the royal family and the priesthood. Goblin priests serve as messangers to the troll tribes which associate with goblins.

OTHER DANGERS

TROLLS
Biology: Mysterious and powerful immortals. They can not truly die - if you leave their corpse lying long enough it will grow back and return to life. They slowly turn to stone in the sunlight, but can turn back to flesh if they stay in the dark long enough. No two trolls look exactly the same, but they are all grey-skinned humanoids of with six fingers and tufted tails.
Demeanor: They are conniving and tricksy, but not unwilling to resort to brute force. Their morals are shifty at best, thought they have been known to cooperate with goblins on occasion.
Trolls are rumoured to be the sons of a fallen angel and a mortal man. unlike ogres, trolls adamantly follow the complex plans of their divine father.

OGRES
Biology: The "cousins" of trolls, ogres tend to be more solitary and civil than their tribal brethren. Ogres can shapeshift to appear as humans or animals, but their true form will always resemble giant, burly men with horns and tusks.
Demeanor: They are not very outrightly hostile to mortals, but will not hesitate to kill (and eat) them if they cause trouble.

DEMONS
"demons" are defined as creatures that were created rather than born. It is an umbrella term describing various beings (as defined by the raw material they were created from)
True Demons: Servants/warriors of divine beings, created using souls as a raw material. Due to having a true soul, they can learn and adapt, which other demon types are incapable of doing.
Golems: simplistic demons made of rock or metal.
Homunculus: More complex demons made of corpses or body parts.

DRAGONS
Biology: dragons resemble many-limbed metal snakes. Their scales are composed of black metal, and their innards are a complicated system of tubes and organs composed of white-hot metal. The dragon can breathe fire by mixing combustible gases within its body. The dragon's flanks are covered with metallic gill slits, through which it vents excess gas from the fire-breathing process. The dragon's underside has overlapping metal plates. Between these plates the dragon secretes a flammable slime. The dragon's eyes and nose are simply vents into it's fiery interior - they constantly exude a red smoke.
Demeanor: The dragon is an enigmatic servant of the gods, sent to tempt mankind and test his true nature.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Armok on May 06, 2010, 11:22:45 am
Sylvans: Peaceful woodelves, with a religion based on nature worship. They are renowned for the quality of their baked goods. They smoke a peculiar herb as a recreational drug (though they claim that they ingest it for religous reasons).
:o ???
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: LeoLeonardoIII on May 06, 2010, 11:53:43 am
Every good they have is thoroughly baked.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Char13magne on May 06, 2010, 11:55:03 am
Every good they have is thoroughly baked.

Though mayhap some of them are.......overbaked (mwahahahahahahaha) :P.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Osmosis Jones on May 06, 2010, 11:56:03 am
Lessee;

Humans; dirt grubbing peasants of all stripes, led by warlords who get power purely through force of arms; no fancy castles or royalty, just a big, bearded, burly bloke leading 50 other burly blokes with big blunt weapons, ruling out of a wooden palisade fort or maybe mudbrick/adobe depending on the environ.

Elves; Warhammer woodelves mostly; enigmatic, reclusive, though not quite so xenophobic as WH, with a tendency towards bows, leaves and tribal warpaint. Also I can see high eles as well, but more as a sort of crystal spires/toga style isolated city
of learning, not so much warfare.

Orcs are WH 40k style mindset, WH fantasy style equipment. Big, boisterous and GREEN! Not evil, or even malicious, just very very veeerrryyy violent culture.

Goblins; ever since seeing Gobbo's thread about, well *[NSFW]*, my view of them has been a touch unusual to say the least. Nothing like WH or WoW goblins though, that's for sure.

Kobolds; Cutebolds all the way; soft, fuzzy, sort of mousey, with a charming idiocy childlike innocence and sense of adventure.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Vester on May 06, 2010, 11:57:38 am
I've always loved the idea that the only reason Kobolds are kleptomaniacs is that their culture, thanks to their childlike mindset, has no sense of property and ownership. Everything belongs to the tribe. Yes, even if it's in that hulking fortress guarded by steel deathtraps and dwarves twice your size.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: quinnr on May 06, 2010, 12:06:27 pm
I always thought of Elves best defined by Terry Pratchett, but for those of you who havn't read his work (which is hilarious political satire in the form of fantasy), they are basically mysterious (almost ethereal) killers, with no regard for human (or any other sentient) life, and are often portrayed as sadists (This draws heavily from Nordic folklore). other than that, my opinions generally match up with yours, and even that is pretty damn close to yours :).

What part of our political stuff do elves represent? :D
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Acanthus117 on May 06, 2010, 12:08:15 pm
Hippies/the bastards we all are
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Fault on May 06, 2010, 01:47:48 pm
:o ???
Every good they have is thoroughly baked.
Though mayhap some of them are.......overbaked (mwahahahahahahaha) :P.
Honestly I just intended for there to be a society with really good bakers.   :-\
But I guess that pun was inevitable, considering the other aspects of their culture.

I've always loved the idea that the only reason Kobolds are kleptomaniacs is that their culture, thanks to their childlike mindset, has no sense of property and ownership. Everything belongs to the tribe. Yes, even if it's in that hulking fortress guarded by steel deathtraps and dwarves twice your size.
I always figured it was a form of cultural jealousy. Kobolds, for some reason or another, are incapable of creating things the same way other races are. In an effort to become more like the more "superior" races, they steal elements of their culture (including clothing and tools) and use them in a tragic attempt at imitation.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Lord Dakoth on May 06, 2010, 02:13:14 pm
Humans: Curiosity leads them to interact with most other races. Their communities are tightly-knit, and they are often very superstitious. Traders and merchants, often get themselves into trouble.

Elves: Scornful of anything not Elven. Believe most other races to be barbaric, and their own race to be the "dominant" race. Like to spend time writing poetry and music and the like. The most "artistic" of the races, but also the most snobbish and more difficult to deal with than humans. Easily angered.

Dwarves: Xenophobic, mistrusting of other races. They don't usually leave their mountain fortresses, so they are rarely the aggressors in a conflict. Have a strong sense of duty and would generally rather die than suffer dishonor. They hold grudges for a long time. However, they realize the benefits of trade and are usually open to peaceful interactions with other races, providing that they have something to gain.

Goblins: Crafty and dangerous. Deceitful. Unpredictable. Any negotiations or agreements with them must be enforced by direct force. Shunned by other races, hated by Dwarves.

Orcs: "Barbaric." Their strong traditional sense of honor and glory in combat makes other races see them with distaste. They see other races as weak and unfit to live. Very good at starting wars.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Vester on May 06, 2010, 02:14:26 pm
Soooo I guess a lot of the forumites subscribe heartily to Always Chaotic Evil?
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Pathos on May 06, 2010, 02:34:33 pm
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2214/bread.jpg)

Soooo I guess a lot of the forumites subscribe heartily to Always Chaotic Evil?

Nah, more always chaotic for a lot of races, but chaotic / lawful have a much different meaning in my mind. More savage vs civilised.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Armok on May 06, 2010, 05:11:02 pm
Goblins; ever since seeing Gobbo's thread about, well *[NSFW]*, my view of them has been a touch unusual to say the least. Nothing like WH or WoW goblins though, that's for sure.

Kobolds; Cutebolds all the way; soft, fuzzy, sort of mousey, with a charming idiocy childlike innocence and sense of adventure.
Oh yea, the hawt versions. I dont USUALY unamgine them like this because most seting it just wouldnt work, but it's probably my favorite conception ofthem... ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Fault on May 06, 2010, 05:41:39 pm
Oh yea, the hawt versions. I dont USUALY unamgine them like this because most seting it just wouldnt work, but it's probably my favorite conception of them... ;)

well, that's it. Now we have to find a setting where these goblins makes sense.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Armok on May 06, 2010, 05:44:59 pm
Oh yea, the hawt versions. I dont USUALY unamgine them like this because most seting it just wouldnt work, but it's probably my favorite conception of them... ;)

well, that's it. Now we have to find a setting where these goblins makes sense.
My intuition tells me it's probably japanese.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Lord Dakoth on May 06, 2010, 05:45:41 pm
Oh yea, the hawt versions. I dont USUALY unamgine them like this because most seting it just wouldnt work, but it's probably my favorite conception of them... ;)

well, that's it. Now we have to find a setting where these goblins makes sense.

In fantasy worlds, obviously.

/doublemeaning
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Fault on May 06, 2010, 05:48:41 pm
My intuition tells me it's probably japanese.
you took it to far broski.  :(

/doublemeaning
oh ho ho ho.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: Bandages on May 06, 2010, 05:51:57 pm
Humans:  I picture chivalrous and industrious peoples. Often greedy as all hell.

Elves:  Tall, graceful folk with long ears that are proficient with bows and being generally awesome at stuff.

Dwarves:  Short, entrenched in politics and geology. Architecture > all other things.

Goblins:  I picture goblins from Magic The Gathering. Curious, evil little things that craft together killing machines and weapons, only to have many backfire.

Orcs:  LotR. Nuff Said.

Gnomes:  WoW gnomes. Tinkering little troublemakers. Often with stupid pun names like "Gnomercy"

Trolls:  I usually picture WoW trolls again. Tall tribal folks with tusks 'n stuff.
Title: Re: Fantasy Race Mental Images
Post by: MrWiggles on May 06, 2010, 08:09:41 pm
Wadja want me tu kill?