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Title: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 07:23:31 pm
Hi! New to Mafia? Accidentally clicked on it instead of Roll To Dodge? Like randomly accusing people of horrible crimes and then lynching them on mostly nothing but words?

Welcome to Beginner's Mafia! This is the eleventh (Twelfth, kinda) run of our Beginner's Mafia series. In Beginner's Mafia, you will be pitted up with a Town IC (Inexperienced Challenged) who will help you play the game, and will be just as clueless, if not more so, about the setup as you, and a Mafia IC, who will be helping out the Mafia.

In Mafia, you are divided into two parts: Town and Mafia:
If you are Town, your goal is to lynch the Mafia. You do this by convincing others that one of the group is scum, and getting enough votes on them to lynch them.
If you are Mafia, your goal is to kill off the Town until there is an equal number of them to you by getting them to lynch other Town or by killing them. You are given a kill each Night to kill any player in the game.

Each Day, you all vote to lynch a player. Each Night, you send in your actions. The cycle continues until one side wins.

In this setup, there are the possibility of extra roles. These roles are Cop and Doctor for Town, and Roleblocker and Godfather for Mafia.
A Cop inspects any player at Night. They are told that player's alignment.
A Doctor may protect any player at Night. This stops that player from being killed.
A Roleblocker stops an extra role from using an action. This stops Doctors and Cops but does nothing for Townies.
A Godfather makes Cops get Town for their alignment, instead of Mafia.

There is a 50% chance for any of these roles to show up. It is possible to end up with no extra roles.

For a link to our Tutorial here at B12: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=39338.0

If you're still confused, join anyhow and we'll teach you!

This game will have 9 players. If more ICs wish to join, it would be helpful, since one IC is usually never enough.

Players:
Bandages - Townie
Ottofar
kilikan - Townie
Lonewolf I
Zako
penngo009
Rabble
Criptfeind - Townie
Diablous

ICs:
Town(s): Jokerman-EXE
Scum: Org
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [0 / 9]
Post by: Org on May 17, 2010, 07:24:54 pm
Scum IC unless you object.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [0 / 9]
Post by: Bandages on May 17, 2010, 07:32:22 pm
I have played IRL but not online, and I would like to get into it.

Sign me up, please :D
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [0 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 08:01:58 pm
Scum IC unless you object.
... Not going to be crazy?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [0 / 9]
Post by: Org on May 17, 2010, 08:02:35 pm
Scum IC unless you object.
... Not going to be crazy?
Nope. I wil give helpful information to the scum.
I will try my best.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [0 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 08:10:39 pm
Scum IC unless you object.
... Not going to be crazy?
Nope. I wil give helpful information to the scum.
I will try my best.
Then feel free to coach.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [1 / 9]
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 17, 2010, 09:23:45 pm
Am I too new to Town IC?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [1 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 10:02:45 pm
Am I too new to Town IC?
You can IC if you feel you'll be up for it.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [1 / 9]
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 18, 2010, 12:34:14 am
I think I can, yeah. I mean, I'm not horrible at being Town.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [1 / 9]
Post by: Ottofar on May 19, 2010, 07:54:37 am
I'd like to be in.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [2 / 9]
Post by: kilakan on May 19, 2010, 06:37:14 pm
never played before, and I guess this is a good place to start
IN!>!!>
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [3 / 9]
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 20, 2010, 09:20:54 pm
In

I shall have to acquire a white cat and an eyepatch, then take over the town.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [4 / 9]
Post by: Zako on May 23, 2010, 08:58:30 am
In

Cause I want to learn more about mafia.  :P
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [4 / 9]
Post by: Org on May 23, 2010, 10:52:58 am
   If you use both Roleblocker and Godfather, I would have more than 9.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [4 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 23, 2010, 11:05:20 am
   If you use both Roleblocker and Godfather, I would have more than 9.
Nah. It's RNG.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [5 / 9]
Post by: penngo009 on May 24, 2010, 05:47:28 pm
i'm in
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [6 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 25, 2010, 11:36:53 am
Just 3 more!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [6 / 9]
Post by: Rabble on May 25, 2010, 01:36:25 pm
I, too, would like to know more about your games of mafia.

In.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [7 / 9]
Post by: Criptfeind on May 25, 2010, 04:27:48 pm
I don't know, can I in?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [8 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 25, 2010, 07:58:16 pm
ONE MORE!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [8 / 9]
Post by: kilakan on May 26, 2010, 02:47:13 pm
THE SUSPENSE!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [8 / 9]
Post by: Ottofar on May 27, 2010, 06:59:07 am
II will be at our summer cottage for over the following weekend.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [8 / 9]
Post by: Diablous on May 28, 2010, 06:47:53 pm
Can I get through a game without shit coming up and forcing me to leave? Shall we find out?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [8 / 9]
Post by: webadict on May 28, 2010, 07:16:49 pm
Can I get through a game without shit coming up and forcing me to leave? Shall we find out?
Best not leave...

But okay, I'll do the setup and role PMs in a bit.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [FULL]
Post by: Diablous on May 28, 2010, 07:18:49 pm
Only time will tell my friend. Well, guy I know on the internet.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [FULL]
Post by: webadict on May 28, 2010, 08:44:07 pm
This used to be a peace-loving Town. The kind of Town where middle-class people enjoyed being alive in. Where dogs were walked down streets and children played on playgrounds that sat on every other corner.

That was before the Mafia came. They were harmless at first, hassling shopkeepers for lower prices and kicking dogs. Then they moved onto kicking defenseless puppies and hassling shopkeepers for lower prices. With guns.

The city fell into ruins. And not the ancient kind either.

The Mayor, being wise and passing legislation forcing you to, organized you nine into a special taskforce to root out the cause of the trouble, which is two of you!


Days last 72 hours (Weekends do not count in this.) This may be shortened or extended by bolding their respective words. If there is more than half of the Town shortening, the Day will end. If there is one more of more extensions than shortenings at Day end, the Day will extend for 48 hours.

These are all of the possible role PMs:
Quote
You are a Townie.

The Mafia has infiltrated your precious Town and are causing havoc. Root them out and stop the Mafia menace.

Each Day, you will attempt to lynch a Mafia member by voting for them. But beware, at Night the Mafia prowl the streets.
Quote
You are a Cop.

The Mafia has infiltrated your precious Town and are causing havoc. Root them out and stop the Mafia menace.

Each Day, you will attempt to lynch a Mafia member by voting for them. But beware, at Night the Mafia prowl the streets. Luckily, your detective skills can find whether a player is Town or the ne'er-do-well Mafia!
Quote
You are a Doctor.

The Mafia has infiltrated your precious Town and are causing havoc. Root them out and stop the Mafia menace.

Each Day, you will attempt to lynch a Mafia member by voting for them. But beware, at Night the Mafia prowl the streets. Your advanced medical knowledge allows you stalk a person and save them from harm!
Quote
You are a Mafioso.

You have rolled into Town to cause some trouble and bootleg some liquor, but them bothersome Town is getting in your way!

Each Night, your killer instincts lets you "remove" a player.
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You are a Roleblocker.

You have rolled into Town to cause some trouble and bootleg some liquor, but them bothersome Town is getting in your way!

Each Night, your killer instincts lets you "remove" a player. However, your lockmaking skills can bolt a player's door shut all Night, keeping them from leaving.
Quote
You are a Godfather.

You have rolled into Town to cause some trouble and bootleg some liquor, but them bothersome Town is getting in your way!

Each Night, your killer instincts lets you "remove" a player. However, your prestige and fame allow you to look "Town" to any nosy Cops.

This is a sample vote count:
Vote Count
------------------------
Bandages -
Ottofar -
kilakan -
Lonewolf I -
Zako -
penngo009 -
Rabble -
Criptfeind -
Diablous -

Not Voting - Bandages, Ottofar, kilikan, Lonewolf I, Zako, penngo009, Rabble, Criptfeind, Diablous

Day ends Wednesday at 9 PM Central.


Votes must be in Red. If there is a tie, the Day will be extended for 24 hours, as will further ties. You may also choose to No Lynch, where no one is lynched.

Once you are lynched or killed, you are dead and can no longer post or vote.

It is now Day.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 28, 2010, 08:53:56 pm
kilakan - Which role do you think would be most fun to get?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: kilakan on May 28, 2010, 09:16:39 pm
Dunno, cop sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 28, 2010, 09:42:14 pm
man i can't wait to find out how dis game works
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 28, 2010, 10:09:19 pm
Unvote

Zako, are you by chance a fan of SD Gundam?

penngo009 - Simple. Find scum. Kill them.  Unless you're scum.  Then we find you, and kill you.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 29, 2010, 09:18:45 am
man i can't wait to find out how dis game works

Simple. If you are town aligned, you have to try to figure out who the scum are, and get them lynched. Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day. If you are the cop, you can investigate someone at night and see if they are mafia or town. You get a town result from the mafia godfather though. If you are the doctor, you can protect someone at night, and if they are targeted to be killed, they will live.

If you are mafia aligned, you have to try to look like someone town aligned, and try to get a townie in the noose, and you and your scum pal get to kill someone at night. And if you have a roleblocker, he can target someone at night and block any actions that they have if they are cop or doctor.


Lonewolf I which alignment is your favorite, town or scum?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Rabble on May 29, 2010, 10:22:01 am
Criptfeind, why is your name spelled that way?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 29, 2010, 11:04:47 am
Rabble, your name is meaningless. Why is that?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 29, 2010, 11:05:45 am
And I don't know what SD Gundam is.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Rabble on May 29, 2010, 11:54:01 am
Rabble, your name is meaningless. Why is that?

Quote
Rabble:

–noun
1.
a disorderly crowd; mob.
2.
the rabble, the lower classes; the common people: The nobility held the rabble in complete contempt.
–verb (used with object)
3.
to beset as a rabble does; mob.
[/quote
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 29, 2010, 12:03:42 pm
I'm digging the action, guys, but my advice as the Town IC is to start asking questions relevant to the game (ie, Who would you rather play as scum with? Who would you target if you were scum? Etc.)

While RVS is pointless and (generally) fun, try to start bringing it into the game when you can.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 29, 2010, 02:16:51 pm
Everyone should say what role they have, then we can easily start to find who's lying through little tests such as "who did you block last night" or "why are there two police claims?"
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 29, 2010, 02:30:16 pm
Everyone should say what role they have, then we can easily start to find who's lying through little tests such as "who did you block last night" or "why are there two police claims?"

What the...?

Unvote. I'd rather let Lonewolf I answer my question first, but this is just...

So, Bandages, you basically want to reveal who the cop and doctor are. One of the crucial things the scum do not know. If we let this happen, they will be killed and blocked during the night. Doing this will render them useless! You will be giving the town's most important weapon to the scum! So, trying to make things easier for you and your scum pal?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 29, 2010, 03:07:15 pm
I meant after the first night = 3=

Because then the policeman can say who they tracked, and if there's only one policeman claim, we know it's 100% true. If there are two, then we know one of them is scum. Doctor should probably not reveal, though.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 29, 2010, 03:21:51 pm
Diablous - I can't rightly say, as I've only ever been town.  I think scum would be more fun, as constructing and maintaining plausible lies and picking apart holes in truth seems a whole lot more interesting than straight scumhunting.

Also, Bandages: Rolefishing day one is a serious offense in a vanilla (or near vanilla) mafia game.  Even if it's an innocent newbslip, made out of simple curiosity, the townies are forced to assume that you're mafia, or worse, mafia roleblocker looking for targets.

Criptfeind - Do you think Ottofar's being out of town during RVS will hurt the game?  Or will it help to have some fresh perspective in case something like Bandage's slip sends us off on a newbhunt, rather than a scumhuntz?

FAKEEDIT:  My God, Bandages.  Your just digging yourself deeper.  For one thing, even if only one cop claims, it could still be fake.  'Probably not' nothing.  Doctor should almost never reveal until the endgame, if even then.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 29, 2010, 03:24:49 pm
Why would the real cop not claim after night 1? Claiming makes it easy to know who's lying or not.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Rabble on May 29, 2010, 03:31:06 pm
Why would the real cop not claim after night 1? Claiming makes it easy to know who's lying or not.

How so on day 1?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 29, 2010, 03:31:28 pm
Why would the real cop not claim after night 1? Claiming makes it easy to know who's lying or not.

He could have got an innocent result, and if he claims then, he could be effectively neutralized for the rest of the game. Or killed. The cop should stay in hiding until he strikes scum, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 29, 2010, 03:34:31 pm
Whatever works, then.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: kilakan on May 29, 2010, 06:33:23 pm
I gotta agree Bandages is suspicious.... anyways
Who do you believe would be the most dangerous to be against character?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 29, 2010, 07:41:48 pm
Criptfeind, why is your name spelled that way?

I have Dysgraphia and I was eight when I made the name for my second online account.

Criptfeind - Do you think Ottofar's being out of town during RVS will hurt the game?  Or will it help to have some fresh perspective in case something like Bandage's slip sends us off on a newbhunt, rather than a scumhuntz?

Eh the more I play the more I realize that RVT is needed but still bull crap and I dislike it, so probably a good thing that he is gone. Unless he is scum of course.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 29, 2010, 09:07:33 pm
Unvote

Unless he is scum of course.

Naturally. 

I gotta agree Bandages is suspicious.... anyways
Who do you believe would be the most dangerous to be against character?

And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC.  Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town.  Unless that's what they want us to think.

Zako, Penngo, neither of you have spoken since Bandagegate.  You're not trying to lay low while we burn him at the stake, are you?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 29, 2010, 09:20:11 pm
EBWOP: I forgot to remove the Unvote from my last post.  I changed my mind halfway through writing it.  Pengo009 still bears my vote.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 29, 2010, 09:23:51 pm
EABWOP: Damn you, memory!  Why are you getting Penngo and Zako mixed up?

Anyway, I want to hear from both of you. Doesn't matter which one I'm using as a placeholder in the meantime.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Rabble on May 29, 2010, 10:54:54 pm
I have Dysgraphia and I was eight when I made the name for my second online account.

Fair enough.
Unvote

Quote from: Lonewolf I
And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC. Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town. Unless that's what they want us to think.

Isn't there a saying or something for this?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Rabble on May 29, 2010, 10:55:35 pm
Oooh, glow, whoops.

Just to be clear, Unvote
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 29, 2010, 11:09:03 pm
Isn't there a saying or something for this?

Indeedy do, WIFOM, Wine In Front Of Me. IE trying to confuse people.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 02:25:41 am
Gind mames
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 30, 2010, 08:58:00 am
Sorry, just been preoccupied.

Unvote.

Bandages made a large slip up early. He looks like scum to me, but since everyone knows he's scum I will focus on someone else, namely...

Lonewolf I, WIFOM is anti-town, stop trying to confuse us, that's what scum want, and since you are attempting it, you look scummy. Why are you doing this if your town?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 30, 2010, 09:48:30 am
Let's see what happened while I was gone for a while.

Gind mames

What? Is there a meaning to this?

I gotta agree Bandages is suspicious.... anyways

What do we have here? Buddying Kilakan? Better watch it. Buddying is scummy. You went up a little bit.
 
And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC.  Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town.  Unless that's what they want us to think.

And underlined we have WIFOM. Trying to confuse the town maybe? You also went up a little bit.
 
Also, Criptfeind, why haven't you contributed anything? You answered questions, but have yet to participate yourself. Why?
 
In summary, Kilakan appears to be buddying, so I am more suspicious of him. Also more suspicious of Lonewolf I for WIFOM. Also, Cript has not participated much. I've played a game where he was scum before, and he was very active there, so I don't find this really scummy of him. It has still grabbed my attention.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 11:05:52 am
Let me tell you it is a lot harder to play as town because as scum you get to lie cheat and steal, I am still working on the entire "playing as town" game.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 30, 2010, 12:37:03 pm
Let me tell you it is a lot harder to play as town because as scum you get to lie cheat and steal, I am still working on the entire "playing as town" game.

True. I think that scum can be easier since you know who is your ally and enemy. But being scum can put more pressure on you, and I'm not always great with pressure.

But, if you don't contribute by the end of Day 1, I will be very suspicious.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 30, 2010, 03:04:38 pm
Gind mames

What? Is there a meaning to this?

Gind mames = Mind Games

Lonewolf I, WIFOM is anti-town, stop trying to confuse us, that's what scum want, and since you are attempting it, you look scummy. Why are you doing this if your town?

As far as WIFOM goes, now I understand that term, though I don't believe the assessment is valid.  WIFOM means forcing your opponent into such circular reasoning, using the pressure of the situation to obtain a single, irrevocable decision that is usually either a blind guess or a Third Option born of hasty, hopefully fallacious reasoning.

Certainly my analysis of the situation is the product of some circular reasoning, but there is no decision being made.  Any confusion my statement creates is the result of a perceived False Dilemma.  Scum could easily adopt a different strategy, and negate my reasoning completely.  Indeed, they probably have.

The purpose behind my particular wording was threefold:
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 30, 2010, 03:11:27 pm
Also, Bandages.  Posting nonsense is anti-town as well.  It's an indicator of activelurking.  Even though you're currently under the microscope, you should still be doing scumhunting of your own.  Useless town deserve to be lynched almost as much as scum.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 03:16:19 pm
Well I am of the belief that it is useless to lynch anyone day one, just because we have NO information to go off of.

At least day 2, we can get cop information as well as see if there are any people that are doubling up on a proffesion.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 30, 2010, 03:24:18 pm
Well I am of the belief that it is useless to lynch anyone day one, just because we have NO information to go off of.

At least day 2, we can get cop information as well as see if there are any people that are doubling up on a proffesion.

Hmm. Well, I don't the town doesn't really benefit from a no-lynch, even on Day 1. A lynch, even a mislynch can get information, and the lynch could wind up getting scum. A no-lynch helps the scum more than the town.

And remember. Not all roles are guarenteed to be in game. So it's possible for a scum to claim cop, and not be challenged due to there being no cop.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 30, 2010, 07:31:26 pm
Well I am of the belief that it is useless to lynch anyone day one, just because we have NO information to go off of.

At least day 2, we can get cop information as well as see if there are any people that are doubling up on a proffesion.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Unvote

I give up.  Bandages.  Burn him.  Burn him alive.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 07:57:27 pm
:(
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 30, 2010, 08:32:52 pm
Well I am of the belief that it is useless to lynch anyone day one, just because we have NO information to go off of.

At least day 2, we can get cop information as well as see if there are any people that are doubling up on a proffesion.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Unvote

I give up.  Bandages.  Burn him.  Burn him alive.

That's mean. At least tell him what he did wrong. It can help him grow as a mafia player.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Org on May 30, 2010, 08:34:49 pm
It is always useful for town to lynch day one, because if you do not, this means one less chance that you can kill a scum, and basically gives a free day to scum for a kill.

Need to help out the Town IC as he seems a little lurky lurky.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 30, 2010, 09:05:22 pm
That's mean. At least tell him what he did wrong. It can help him grow as a mafia player.

Ok

Bandages, while we all would love to know who the cop is, and work with him to use his powers for the greater good, it simply isn't strategically sound for him to claim until mid or late-game.  Having the cop claim this early is difficult to verify, easy to fake, and gives the mafia a target.  It's best for the cop to work alone, conducting investigations on whatever players tickle his scumhunting instincts.

Your continually insisting that the cop claim on day two marks you as:
A. The cop
B. The doctor (Trying to find and protect cop.)
C. Mafia, or worse yet, Mafia Roleblocker
or
D. Lazy n00b who wants the cop to do all the work for him

In the case of the former two, you're basically telling the mafia "Hey! I'm important! Kill me first!"
The latter two are anti-town and should be lynched as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 09:10:35 pm
So basically, the combination of all four possibilites make me completely risky to lynch for both parties? Rad.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 09:30:29 pm
Sept you have to play to win, so not 'rad'.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 30, 2010, 09:35:54 pm
No you idiot, it means your scum and we should lynch you. We have risk in no-lynching as townies, not in lynching someone.

Lonewolf, if we lynch bandages, we lynch him because we think he's scum not town, we can do our own reasoning. Trying to defend a scummy looking player without reason is called buddying in my opinion, and that is scummy. And we shouldn't worry about scumchat, we can't control it or look at it so why worry about it? Worrying about scumchat is scummy since only scum can look at it or take part.

Why are you worrying about scumchat, lonewolf you scum? Why are you buddying?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 09:41:56 pm
Unvote. Zako.

What? How is lonewolf budding?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 30, 2010, 09:43:36 pm
He's defending scummy looking bandages without reason or proof. That's buddying and is a scum tatic to save each other.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 09:48:59 pm
Read this last page again. Specifically the last 11 posts.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 09:59:18 pm
Not to mention the fact that I'm a townie, so Lonewolf has no reason to save me unless he were also a townie or some variant.

Now I know that anyone who defended me is not a scum, otherwise they would have frothed at the mouth to lynch me. Just like Zako.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 10:01:42 pm
Wrong wrong wrong.

Scum does not do that because it makes them look like scum if you turn up town.

Hell a lot of the time (and this is what budding is) scum defend town to look like town.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 10:06:50 pm
That's just what a scum would want us to think.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 10:09:07 pm
Fucking fuck fuck WIFOM.

NO.

You dumb ass.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 10:11:14 pm
Only a scum would get that angry..
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 10:12:19 pm
I am laughing on the inside. On the outside I am killing small furry mammals.

Do you really believe what you said?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 30, 2010, 10:17:46 pm
No wait fuck it, no matter your answer you need to die.

Unvote. Bandages.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 30, 2010, 10:19:00 pm
That's a poor strategy. Now everyone knows you're a mafia  8)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 30, 2010, 10:32:39 pm
If I thought Bandages looked scummy I'd have voted him from the getgo.  I was operating under the assumption that scum will try to capitalize on his frequent newbslips by either pushing a lynch on him or simply lurking.  What you claim are my efforts to defend him are my attempts to nip those possibilities in the bud, and further my own scumhunting.  If I was scum and trying to buddy someone, I certainly wouldn't pick the guy who's actively getting himself lynched.  Of course, these points are moot, as of this post:
I give up.  Bandages.  Burn him.  Burn him alive.

As for worrying about scumchat?  I'm not worried about it.  I am thinking about it, is all, and I took a shot in the dark.  It's likely missed, now that I've explained it, but I never had anything riding on it, and can always take another in the future.

FAKEEDIT

Bandages, scum defending town to look like town is the definition of buddying.  Cript knows what he's talking about, and you are starting to look better and better as a Day 1 lynch choice.

Cript, that's not WIFOM.  That's just plain idiocy.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 31, 2010, 12:14:27 am
If I thought Bandages looked scummy I'd have voted him from the getgo.  I was operating under the assumption that scum will try to capitalize on his frequent newbslips by either pushing a lynch on him or simply lurking.  What you claim are my efforts to defend him are my attempts to nip those possibilities in the bud, and further my own scumhunting.  If I was scum and trying to buddy someone, I certainly wouldn't pick the guy who's actively getting himself lynched.  Of course, these points are moot, as of this post:
I give up.  Bandages.  Burn him.  Burn him alive.

As for worrying about scumchat?  I'm not worried about it.  I am thinking about it, is all, and I took a shot in the dark.  It's likely missed, now that I've explained it, but I never had anything riding on it, and can always take another in the future.

FAKEEDIT

Bandages, scum defending town to look like town is the definition of buddying.  Cript knows what he's talking about, and you are starting to look better and better as a Day 1 lynch choice.

Cript, that's not WIFOM.  That's just plain idiocy.

Ohh this is starting to get interesting. You defend your scummy self by bandwagoning on the idiot? Whats more, you did what you said scum would do, push for a vote on bandages, and by your definition this is scummy. Makes me wonder...

And what scumhunting? You haven't done any other than poking at inactive players. That was just once.

And don't you dare deny what bandages said is WIFOM:

That's just what a scum would want us to think.

This is the VERY DEFINITION of WIFOM.

But I do agree with getting rid of bandages day 1, he's being no help to town like this, best to be rid of him now.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 31, 2010, 01:57:58 am
You say all I'm doing is poking inactive players?  You're right.  Congratulations.  You've figured out my current scumhunting tactics.  RVS stopped too soon, what with Bandages stealing the spotlight, for anyone to drop anything that I consider worth further investigation.  As a result, I don't have any particularly pointed questions to ask yet, so the best way to get something worthwhile to drop is to keep everyone talking.

What Bandages said is not WIFOM.  It is Circular Reasoning.
Circular Reasoning =/= WIFOM
It's certainly a major part of WIFOM, but mistaking it for the whole is silly, as is arguing about the definition of WIFOM.

How can you say I voted Bandages to defend myself from your accusations?

If you compare the timestamps on these quotes, you'll find I voted Bandages long before you accused me of buddying.
I give up.  Bandages.  Burn him.  Burn him alive.
Lonewolf, if we lynch bandages, we lynch him because we think he's scum not town, we can do our own reasoning. Trying to defend a scummy looking player without reason is called buddying in my opinion, and that is scummy.
Why are you buddying?
Since no one else has even suggested that I might be buddying, I have to assume that you are making stuff up, which is certainly worth further investigation. Unvote.
As for whether or not I was bandwagoning, I believe I've made it clear that I had voted him for the same reasons you stated.  Namely, he's useless and should be excised.

Why, Zako?  Why claim that I was defending myself when I voted Bandages, when there were no relevant accusations to defend myself from at the time?

Furthermore, while going back over your posts, I found this little tidbit:

Bandages made a large slip up early. He looks like scum to me, but since everyone knows he's scum I will focus on someone else, namely...

Fairly strong claims, even now.  At the time you said this, Diablous was the only one who'd suggested that Bandages might be scum, I was trying to mend his ways, and kilakan had called him 'suspicious'.  This looks to me like a push for a vote on Bandages.
Zako, why is it that, to paraphrase your own words, you did what I said scum would do?

You certainly managed to hide it well, jumping on me and all in the same post.

Zako.  You are scum.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Pimpson on May 31, 2010, 02:02:10 am
never played this game. but id love to see whatsup
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 02:04:12 am
Yeah, you guys should just lynch me.

And lose a townie vote later  8)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 31, 2010, 02:13:02 am
Circular Reasoning is what WIFOM is. Don't debate it, your just giving scum an excuse to use it more often.

I do have a life outside the computer Lonewolf, I cannot be there all the time to comment on everything exactly on time. I was commenting on this:

Gind mames

What? Is there a meaning to this?

Gind mames = Mind Games

Lonewolf I, WIFOM is anti-town, stop trying to confuse us, that's what scum want, and since you are attempting it, you look scummy. Why are you doing this if your town?

As far as WIFOM goes, now I understand that term, though I don't believe the assessment is valid.  WIFOM means forcing your opponent into such circular reasoning, using the pressure of the situation to obtain a single, irrevocable decision that is usually either a blind guess or a Third Option born of hasty, hopefully fallacious reasoning.

Certainly my analysis of the situation is the product of some circular reasoning, but there is no decision being made.  Any confusion my statement creates is the result of a perceived False Dilemma.  Scum could easily adopt a different strategy, and negate my reasoning completely.  Indeed, they probably have.

The purpose behind my particular wording was threefold:
  • Point out one possible scenario in which Bandages is not scum, and one in which he is.  I was using both scenarios as support for my caution that we not rush into lynching him blindly.
  • Remind everyone that there is an elite IC over in scumchat.  Whatever plan scum settle on will have likely passed his scrutiny.
  • Take potshots at the scum planning process, attempting to sow disorder and confusion, however brief, into scumchat.

And instead of jumping on the bandages bandwagon, I instead go after the WIFOM scumtell you gave out here:

Unvote

Unless he is scum of course.

Naturally. 

I gotta agree Bandages is suspicious.... anyways
Who do you believe would be the most dangerous to be against character?

And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC.  Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town.  Unless that's what they want us to think.

Zako, Penngo, neither of you have spoken since Bandagegate.  You're not trying to lay low while we burn him at the stake, are you?

Your arguments are null and void.

If we vote you out now bandages, we wouldn't loose much more than someone doing anti-town stuff that's not helping us catch scum. If your not scum, it's not much of a loss anyhow since your acting like a scumbucket would, doing nothing to help town.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 02:21:27 am
Zako is mean, so I'm still voting for him.

Don't be a jerk, it's rude  :-\
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 31, 2010, 02:57:57 am
Your arguments are null and void.

Hardly.

I do have a life outside the computer Lonewolf, I cannot be there all the time to comment on everything exactly on time.
You specifically stated that I voted bandages in order to defend myself.  At the time that I voted bandages, there were no accusations to defend myself from.  Commenting on something a bit late is acceptable.  Fabricating arguments for my being scum without even bothering to make sure your arguments are internally consistent, at least chronologically, is downright sloppy.

And instead of jumping on the bandages bandwagon, I instead go after the WIFOM scumtell you gave out here:

Spoiler: Long quote of mine. (click to show/hide)
Didn't I already point this out in my own argument?  Oh, yeah. I did.
You certainly managed to hide it well, jumping on me and all in the same post.

You still haven't answered either of my questions.  Here they are again, in case you missed them:
Why claim that I was defending myself when I voted Bandages, when there were no relevant accusations to defend myself from at the time?
Why is it that you did what I said scum would do?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 31, 2010, 03:57:39 am
You specifically stated that I voted bandages in order to defend myself.  At the time that I voted bandages, there were no accusations to defend myself from.  Commenting on something a bit late is acceptable.  Fabricating arguments for my being scum without even bothering to make sure your arguments are internally consistent, at least chronologically, is downright sloppy.

Oh, so having to make time for university exams is a scumtell is it now? I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for the inspiration.

You certainly managed to hide it well, jumping on me and all in the same post.

How the hell does this prove anything?

You still haven't answered either of my questions.  Here they are again, in case you missed them:
Why claim that I was defending myself when I voted Bandages, when there were no relevant accusations to defend myself from at the time?
Why is it that you did what I said scum would do?

Ok, I think I may have misread what you said. I thought you were defending him and that you meant that I was nipping your defense of bandages in the bud, not your scumhunting. My apologies, this is what happens when you don't get enough sleep people! Learn from my stupidity.  :-[

Since when did I push for a vote on bandages? I was stating what was obvious in the form of sarcasm. It appears that sarcasm is seen as a scumtell, I will refrain from it in the future.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 09:54:55 am
Not to mention the fact that I'm a townie, so Lonewolf has no reason to save me unless he were also a townie or some variant.

Now I know that anyone who defended me is not a scum, otherwise they would have frothed at the mouth to lynch me. Just like Zako.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's just what a scum would want us to think.
Only a scum would get that angry..

Stop, just stop. That physically hurts. You are just confusing people.
 
Yeah, you guys should just lynch me.

And lose a townie vote later  8)

Sad part about being a townie. You are expendable. Unless you have a role, the only thing we really lose is your skill in finding scum. We have nothing to lose in lynching you.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 31, 2010, 11:53:38 am
You certainly managed to hide it well, jumping on me and all in the same post.

How the hell does this prove anything?

I said scum would push for a vote on bandages.  It's entirely possible to do so without actually casting a vote on him.  You're claiming sarcasm and university distractions as your explanation for inconsistency?  Very well.  Unvote

Bandages, seriously.  It's about time you're gone.

I move that we give our weekend lurkers a chance to chime in, particularly Ottofar, then drop the hammer on Bandages (provided none of said lurkers make any juicy slips).
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 31, 2010, 01:17:14 pm
bandages because he was posting this


Quote
Why would the real cop not claim after night 1? Claiming makes it easy to know who's lying or not.


Who would really post that they are the cop. Wouldn't it make sense for the cop to find proof before he accuses or reveals himself?


He seems like he wants an easy win for himself. He is Role-fishing and if he gets the roles of all the players he can set up his game like a set of dominoes.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 31, 2010, 01:47:43 pm
Lonewolf is also suspicious because he said this-

I can't rightly say, as I've only ever been town.  I think scum would be more fun, as constructing and maintaining plausible lies and picking apart holes in truth seems a whole lot more interesting than straight scumhunting.

The %s woud eventualy add up to a high chance of being scum beause, it is randomed and he is refering that he has played multiple games in the past and saying he has never been scum. And the more games you play the higher chance of being scum.

But still bandages still seems more suspicious. But sense there is still 2 mafias lonewolf could bne one of them.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 02:11:41 pm
I bet the mafia are laughing all the way to the bank right now.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Ottofar on May 31, 2010, 02:37:31 pm
Wow. Just... Wow.

Bandages. I've  never seen anyone that scummy, and I've seen me. Seriously, take a look at some other games before playing. Those posts - pure WIFOM, and rolefishing on D1.

Zako is mean, so I'm still voting for him.

Don't be a jerk, it's rude  :-\
Also, don't vote based on emotion, but on logic.

Phonepost.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 03:08:57 pm
Can a town really WIFOM?

Like, isn't that the EXACT OPPOSITE of what WIFOM is?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 03:09:55 pm
Can a town really WIFOM?

Yes. They typically don't intend to.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 03:24:30 pm
Ah.

Well, I'm long for this world anyway. Tell my wife and children that I'll miss them.

P.S. just storywise, why would the town lynch someone before the mafia have killed anyone? Seems kinda crazy in a "the lottery" kinda way
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [FULL]
Post by: webadict on May 31, 2010, 03:30:29 pm
Vote Count
------------------------
Bandages - Diablous, kilikan, Criptfeind, Lonewolf I, penngo009, Ottofar,
Ottofar -
kilakan -
Lonewolf I - Zako,
Zako -
penngo009 -
Rabble -
Criptfeind -
Diablous -

Not Voting - Bandages, Rabble,

Day ends Wednesday at 9 PM Central.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 03:31:54 pm
Eh I'll vote for kilakan

It makes sense
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 03:42:16 pm
P.S. just storywise, why would the town lynch someone before the mafia have killed anyone? Seems kinda crazy in a "the lottery" kinda way

Storywise, we are a taskforce created to get rid of the mafia. Presumbly they have killed others.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 31, 2010, 03:44:47 pm
That was random
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 03:46:55 pm
Eh I'll vote for kilakan

It makes sense

Also, you are supposed to list reasons for your votes.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 31, 2010, 03:48:40 pm
bandages does have a point kilikan has been inactive and could be a mafia but in secret witch makes the most possible sense. We could have let a post inactive mafia go without any harm.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 31, 2010, 03:57:14 pm
Also bandages you should learn more before you play look at other games and stuff or look up a guide of some sort. You can't start from scratch even  in a beginner game.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 04:30:11 pm
This is all part of my elaborate plan.

You'll see  8)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 04:40:30 pm
This is all part of my elaborate plan.

You'll see  8)

*facepalm*
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Lonewolf I on May 31, 2010, 05:25:43 pm
Lonewolf is also suspicious because he said this-

I can't rightly say, as I've only ever been town.  I think scum would be more fun, as constructing and maintaining plausible lies and picking apart holes in truth seems a whole lot more interesting than straight scumhunting.

The %s woud eventualy add up to a high chance of being scum beause, it is randomed and he is refering that he has played multiple games in the past and saying he has never been scum. And the more games you play the higher chance of being scum.

I've subbed into two games so far as town.  Vote Mafia 6 and Paranormal Mafia 16.  Three games does not constitute a large enough sample size for that argument to hold water, and even then it still falls victim to Gambler's Fallacy.

Welcome back, Ottofar.

Let's Shorten and rid ourselves of this Xanatos wannabe.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 31, 2010, 05:28:52 pm
What the hell is this? I leave for half a day and when I come back Zako and Bandages are fighting for the right to get lynched?

It is close, I am thinking they are both scum.

That being said I'm down with a shorten.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 05:43:09 pm
Why you gotta lynch me like that?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: webadict on May 31, 2010, 05:45:39 pm
Lonewolf is also suspicious because he said this-

I can't rightly say, as I've only ever been town.  I think scum would be more fun, as constructing and maintaining plausible lies and picking apart holes in truth seems a whole lot more interesting than straight scumhunting.

The %s woud eventualy add up to a high chance of being scum beause, it is randomed and he is refering that he has played multiple games in the past and saying he has never been scum. And the more games you play the higher chance of being scum.

I've subbed into two games so far as town.  Vote Mafia 6 and Paranormal Mafia 16.  Three games does not constitute a large enough sample size for that argument to hold water, and even then it still falls victim to Gambler's Fallacy.

Welcome back, Ottofar.

Let's Shorten and rid ourselves of this Xanatos wannabe.
Achievement Unlocked!

Gambler's Fallacy - Mention Gambler's Fallacy in a game.


You want to see Gambler's Fallacy in action, look back at some of my older Paranormal games. Also, this is a joke and no way related to the game.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 05:52:07 pm
I guess the Zako vs. Lonewolf shit is done, I'm up for a shorten.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Criptfeind on May 31, 2010, 05:56:37 pm
This is all part of my elaborate plan.

You'll see  8)
Why you gotta lynch me like that?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: penngo009 on May 31, 2010, 06:01:01 pm
lonewolf i never said you would be scum. But if you're not don't be suspicious. Even if your answering a question.I also say Shorten.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Bandages on May 31, 2010, 07:16:37 pm
Why lynch an obvious townie when you now have a higher chance of getting a scum from the remaining 8
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: kilakan on May 31, 2010, 07:51:59 pm
Just so everyone knows, I've been absent due to family issues, anyways I read the rest, and am content with my vote:
Shorten
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Diablous on May 31, 2010, 08:01:35 pm
Why lynch an obvious townie when you now have a higher chance of getting a scum from the remaining 8

You have just rolefished and caused confusion. That does not make you obvious town. That makes you obvious scum.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Zako on May 31, 2010, 10:22:27 pm
I also vote Shorten, we need to get rid of this confusing scumbag. Unvote vote bandages. We have no risk in voting bandages since this is a traditional Mafia and there are no special roles to screw us over.

Right webadict?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: webadict on May 31, 2010, 10:36:15 pm
I also vote Shorten, we need to get rid of this confusing scumbag. Unvote vote bandages. We have no risk in voting bandages since this is a traditional Mafia and there are no special roles to screw us over.

Right webadict?
The only possible roles are those that were listed in the original post. These are Townie, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Mafioso, Mafia Roleblocker, and Mafia Godfather. That is it.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 [FULL]
Post by: webadict on May 31, 2010, 10:51:29 pm
Vote Count
------------------------
Bandages - Diablous, kilikan, Criptfeind, Lonewolf I, penngo009, Ottofar, Zako,
Ottofar -
kilakan - Bandages,
Lonewolf I -
Zako -
penngo009 -
Rabble -
Criptfeind -
Diablous -
Not Voting - Rabble,

Day ends Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 6 Shortenings Heard.


Some time, at half past noon, the group had decided, nearly unanimously, to dispose of the one codenamed Bandages.

He took a step back. "This is just what thy want you to do, man! They're messing with your minds!" His pleas went unheard. They brought him to the Antique Giant Cannon Museum, loading in gun powder and Bandages all in one. Zako lights the fuse and dives, in slow motion, behind the poorly constructed barrier of magazines that were stolen from the Antique Magazine Museum.

*BOOM!*

They watch as smoke and dirt fly everywhere. Bandages, soot-covered and broken, doesn't move an inch. Probably because these cannons weren't meant for humans. They remove Bandages and bring him to the Antique Hospital, where he promptly dies from being cleaned off.

Going through his belongings, they find that Bandages shopped frequently at I'm-A-Townie Mart, a Mart exclusively for Townies.

Whoops?

... You plant a gun on him anyway and walk away.

Bandages has been lynched!

Bandages was a Townie (town).


It is now Night. Send your actions to me as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 1: Anti-Town Band-Aids?
Post by: webadict on June 01, 2010, 10:59:41 pm
The sun rose to find a new Day. And a dead body.

Criptfeind seems to have been strangled with his own intestines, after having his limbs broken with his own skull. Most people would assume this would be physically impossible. But he's dead, so what do you care?

You decide to plant a gun on him, just in case. You all contemplate why, since you didn't kill him this time. In fact, his being killed would imply he was clearly against the Mafia.

... You plant another gun on him.

Criptfeind has been killed!

Criptfeind was a Townie (town).


Vote Count
------------------------
Ottofar -
kilakan -
Lonewolf I -
Zako -
penngo009 -
Rabble -
Diablous -
Not Voting - Rabble, Diablous, kilikan, Lonewolf I, penngo009, Ottofar, Zako,

Day ends Friday at 9 PM Central.


It is now Day.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Bandages on June 01, 2010, 11:18:07 pm
 8)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Org on June 01, 2010, 11:27:04 pm
That is not physically possible!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: webadict on June 01, 2010, 11:31:05 pm
That is not physically possible!
That's what HE kept saying!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 02, 2010, 01:04:25 am
And then there were seven...

Can we get a poke on Rabble?

Kilikan - Why would Bandages think voting you makes sense?  :P
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
Post by: Ottofar on June 02, 2010, 06:18:03 am
Wow. Just... Wow.

Bandages. I've  never seen anyone that scummy, and I've seen me. Seriously, take a look at some other games before playing. Those posts - pure WIFOM, and rolefishing on D1.

Zako is mean, so I'm still voting for him.

Don't be a jerk, it's rude  :-\
Also, don't vote based on emotion, but on logic.

Phonepost.
Also bandages you should learn more before you play look at other games and stuff or look up a guide of some sort. You can't start from scratch even  in a beginner game.

penngo009,. Buddying, as slight as it is.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Rabble on June 02, 2010, 07:22:44 am
Can we get a poke on Rabble?

Poke.

Zako

Why do you think Criptfeind was killed?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: penngo009 on June 02, 2010, 07:30:27 am
Ottofar a beginner is meant to teach us newbies that is why i told bandages to look at other games. He didn't learn anything from this.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: penngo009 on June 02, 2010, 07:36:18 am
Also budding is helping to win.  I cannot help bandages to win because he is DEAD.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: penngo009 on June 02, 2010, 07:39:39 am
I see kilakan as a proper target because of his inactivity he could have been a inactive scum player.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Zako on June 02, 2010, 07:45:53 am
I suspect that it was because someone wanted him dead for a reason. What that reason is however, is beyond me.

Diablous, why would you kill Criptfeind? What was your reason for killing him?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 02, 2010, 10:26:28 am
Also budding is helping to win.  I cannot help bandages to win because he is DEAD.

Buddying is not simply getting another player to like you, and helping them win.  Buddying is a very specific term used to describe a situation in which scum is trying to get a townsplayer on their side, either to garner an additional vote for the scumteam or to subconsciously prepare that player to defend them.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 02, 2010, 11:08:10 am
Diablous, why would you kill Criptfeind? What was your reason for killing him?

My guess is that the scum thought he would be the biggest threat to them. The more important question is why? I can think of two possibilities. One: He attacked on scum player during Day One and that freaked them out and they saw him as a threat. Two: The scum learned through either: reading other games, one of the scum players having played with him before, or being told by Org, that he has a few games under his belt, and decided the most experienced player would be the biggest threat.

Lonewolf I, what do you think about Cript's death? Why do you think he was killed.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Criptfeind on June 02, 2010, 12:12:56 pm
OH GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY ARMS OH NO THAT DOES NOT GO THERE
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Ottofar on June 02, 2010, 02:19:25 pm
Ottofar a beginner is meant to teach us newbies that is why i told bandages to look at other games. He didn't learn anything from this.

Did you read the other quote at all?
Particularly the bold part.

I see kilakan as a proper target because of his inactivity he could have been a inactive scum player.

Going after lurkers is scummy, since they're easy targets.

Phonepost.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Rabble on June 02, 2010, 02:28:16 pm
Going after lurkers is scummy, since they're easy targets.

Does that make being a lurker not scummy?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 02, 2010, 02:30:32 pm
Lurking is also scummy. I don't see attacking a lurker as all that scummy, as long as you also attack active players.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Ottofar on June 02, 2010, 02:31:55 pm
Going after lurkers is scummy, since they're easy targets.

Does that make being a lurker not scummy?
No, but usually scum go after lurkers, to avoid attention.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: kilakan on June 02, 2010, 07:06:29 pm
I'm not lurking, I only get around an hour I can go on a computer a day during the week....  So I haven't been on, anyways.
Lonewolf You've been desperately trying to turn people against each other with little to no proof or evidence, I find that scummy. 
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 02, 2010, 07:39:28 pm
Lonewolf I, what do you think about Cript's death? Why do you think he was killed.

Same reason you do.  He has more games under his belt than any of us.  The only people he attacked are Zako and Bandages, so unless Zako is scum, the panic theory is out, and I haven't thought of any other plausible ones.

Lonewolf You've been desperately trying to turn people against each other with little to no proof or evidence, I find that scummy. 

Against each other or against you?  The only two people I've made serious attacks on thus far are Zako and Bandages, and little to no proof or evidence is all any of us have at this stage.  I brought to bear what I could.  Are you just mad because I voted you?

Also, you didn't answer my question:
Kilikan - Why would Bandages think voting you makes sense?  :P
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: kilakan on June 02, 2010, 07:48:12 pm
I really don't know why bandages thinks voting me makes sense, other then my limited ability to get online.  or a random guess.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Bandages on June 02, 2010, 07:48:44 pm
Kilikan - Why would Bandages think voting you makes sense?  :P

 8)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 02, 2010, 07:53:50 pm
Lonewolf I, what do you think about Cript's death? Why do you think he was killed.

Same reason you do.  He has more games under his belt than any of us.  The only people he attacked are Zako and Bandages, so unless Zako is scum, the panic theory is out, and I haven't thought of any other plausible ones.

Satisfactory. Unvote. I'm going to have to read over Day 1 with this new knowledge from the deaths and do some thinking.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 02, 2010, 07:55:17 pm
Kilikan - Why would Bandages think voting you makes sense?  :P

 8)

You've already used up your Bah! post dude. Gonna have to stay quite until the end of the game.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Bandages on June 02, 2010, 07:56:11 pm
My lips are sealed

After this sentance here, I shall never speak in this thread again! (until it's over)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Zako on June 03, 2010, 08:56:21 am
Good, because of you we had to lynch a useless townie, and that really puts us at a disadvantage. Unvote.

Ottofar, going after lurkers is not scummy unless that's all you do. Why are you jumping to conclusions so quickly?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 03, 2010, 12:19:16 pm
After some thinking, my thoughts are as follows:

Kilakan has done some bandwagoning. He was the second to go after Bandages. It would make sense for scum to hop on a bandwagon one town is doing to another, very scummy, town. He has also not contributed much to the scumhunting. This is the only real contribution I can find from him:
Lonewolf You've been desperately trying to turn people against each other with little to no proof or evidence, I find that scummy. 

I do not see what he is talking about. I do not see any sign of Lonewolf turning people against each other, and he brings no evidence to back up his claim. He could be making stuff up to cause the town to lynch another townie.

Zako and Lonewolf's argument on Day 1 has set off a few bells, but nothing real solid, nothing that makes me real suspicous.
 
The others have not really made me all that suspicous. Right now Kilakan is the top of my list.
 
So, Kilakan, do you have any evidence to back up your claims against Lonewolf? Care to point out where that happened?
 
 
 
And where is out Town IC?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on June 03, 2010, 04:49:44 pm
I'm here. Did you guys need me? I thought you were doing damn fine on your own.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 03, 2010, 04:52:19 pm
I'm here. Did you guys need me? I thought you were doing damn fine on your own.

You haven't really said anything. Was kinda worried.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on June 03, 2010, 05:02:27 pm
I thought you were doing damn fine on your own.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Diablous on June 03, 2010, 05:56:56 pm
I thought you were doing damn fine on your own.

Well, we know that now.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: kilakan on June 03, 2010, 08:09:09 pm
Well any questionsI've asked have been ignored, and I only basnd-waggoned cause this is literally my first game of this, and I thought you made a presuasive argument, anyways, as for why I voted Lone wolf, well that was largely just a guess.  Anyways a number of people have been silent, such as Pengoo, he said 3 short sentaces two days ago and that was it.  I'd like to ask him who he thinks are the leading possible scum at the moment.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on June 03, 2010, 11:23:06 pm
Sorry bro, I missed anything you asked. If it's important, can you re-ask it?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2010, 07:16:01 am
I think Penngo009 needs a replacement. He seems to be having internet issues.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: kilakan on June 04, 2010, 09:04:26 am
No I meant questionsto other players like:
Who do you believehas the mostr experience,
What role would be the mpst dangerous to be against.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Toaster on June 04, 2010, 09:55:07 am
I volunteer to replace in.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2010, 10:06:08 am
Okay, I'll send the PM soon.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Toaster on June 04, 2010, 01:27:59 pm
I haven't gotten my PM yet, so I'm just posting to request an extension, since I'm not sure I'll have time to really study the game before the deadline hits, and I know I won't get all my questions answered.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Ottofar on June 04, 2010, 01:54:12 pm
Agreed. Extension.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 04, 2010, 02:03:15 pm
I see no reason not to. Extension
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2010, 04:04:01 pm
Day Extended. Toaster has replaced penngo009. Karma points for someone that does a vote count because I no longer have computer internet.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 04, 2010, 04:11:42 pm
I think this is the count so far:

Vote Count
------------------------
Ottofar - Zako
kilakan - Lonewolf I, Toaster, Diablous
Lonewolf I - kilikan
Zako - Rabble
Toaster - Ottofar
Rabble -
Diablous -
Not Voting -
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2010, 04:24:00 pm
Day Extended to Wednesday 9 PM. Thanks for that Diablous.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 04, 2010, 04:25:40 pm
No problem man. Also, you need to take out the replacement needed, since Toaster subbed in.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2010, 04:32:21 pm
Too much work.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: penngo009 on June 04, 2010, 04:59:37 pm
stop!!!! i am here web can contact me is figure dour happily
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: penngo009 on June 04, 2010, 05:02:54 pm
Also I should say it was interesting messages while i was in my absence n o replacement is needed once again. 

On the other-hand. It makes me think. kilikan has only gotten more suspicious.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2010, 05:40:59 pm
Okay, I guess penngo009 is fine then.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: kilakan on June 04, 2010, 06:21:34 pm
I never said you weren't here, I just said you haven't posted in awhile, how's that make me suspicious?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: penngo009 on June 05, 2010, 05:48:56 am
kilakan just take it this way lurking is very scummy.You have not provided much help this whole time.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Zako on June 05, 2010, 08:56:09 pm
Lurking is only a minor scumtell. It's meant to be added to other accusations. But kilakan is not helping, and that is scummy.

Unvote Kilakan, why are you not helping to find scum? Is it because you are protecting your scumbuddies?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: kilakan on June 06, 2010, 02:44:15 pm
Well I'm trying to think of ways to help, but I'm pretty new and really don't know what types of things to do/ questions to ask.
anyways I'm not sure bout lone so Unvote Lonewolf
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: penngo009 on June 06, 2010, 02:51:37 pm
kilkan you have done nothing for us. read a guide.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 06, 2010, 02:58:09 pm
Well I'm trying to think of ways to help, but I'm pretty new and really don't know what types of things to do/ questions to ask.

You should read some of the other games, or a guide. Maybe both.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on June 06, 2010, 05:41:16 pm
Well I'm trying to think of ways to help, but I'm pretty new and really don't know what types of things to do/ questions to ask.

They have a point, sometimes reading a few games over or checking out a guide can be helpful.

When you're thinking of questions to ask, try to keep in mind that whatever you say, someone is looking at it and trying to find out if you're scummy by asking the question. The point of your question should be to run that same kind of check on whomever you're questioning. Asking about favorite scumteams, attacking about something they said, anything to get someone talking, and you're doing your job. It's also important to remain aggressive and push, because letting off or being passive is not a good thing to do.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Zako on June 07, 2010, 06:14:33 am
Letting off or being passive is anti-town, hence is a scumtell.

And why is lonewolf scummy? Why are you unsure about him? Give us townies a reason for your accusation or you are being scummy.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Ottofar on June 09, 2010, 03:37:28 pm
Everybody lurks.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 09, 2010, 05:42:12 pm
I'll have a proper vote count at the cost of my valuable time soon. No computer makes this extremely efficient.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Org on June 09, 2010, 05:44:20 pm
I would warning prod everyone.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 09, 2010, 05:47:46 pm
If you could do that Org, it'd make my life a lot easier. You would not believe what I have to do with this phone to PM... Let alone to multiple people.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Org on June 09, 2010, 05:53:31 pm
Sure.
I will skip Otto, since he did post.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Org on June 09, 2010, 05:56:24 pm
Warning Prod sent to:
kilikan
Lonewolf I
Zako
penngo009
Rabble
Diablous
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 06:08:13 pm
I'm here, I am alive. Just don't have anything to say. Also, I got an updated vote count.

Vote Count
------------------------
Ottofar -
kilakan - Lonewolf I, penngo009, Diablous, Zako
Lonewolf I -
Zako - Rabble
penngo009 - Ottofar
Rabble -
Diablous -
Not Voting - kilikan
 
Is this right, everyone?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: kilakan on June 09, 2010, 06:33:31 pm
I'm dead anyways, laters.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 06:34:43 pm
All that really changed was that Kilakan withdrew his vote, and Zako put his on Kila.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 07:04:26 pm
Can we just end the day now? Kilakan has made it clear that he won't say anything, and the others don't seem intent on doing anything.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 09, 2010, 08:11:41 pm
Kilikan moved his vote to me, though he didn't say why.  Other than that, it's accurate.

End the Day, web-footed addict.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 08:13:23 pm
Kilikan moved his vote to me, though he didn't say why.  Other than that, it's accurate.

He already had his vote on you.

I'm not lurking, I only get around an hour I can go on a computer a day during the week....  So I haven't been on, anyways.
Lonewolf You've been desperately trying to turn people against each other with little to no proof or evidence, I find that scummy.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 09, 2010, 08:18:18 pm
Well I'm trying to think of ways to help, but I'm pretty new and really don't know what types of things to do/ questions to ask.
anyways I'm not sure bout lone so Unvote Lonewolf

0.o

*slap forehead*

My bad.  I read the above as him unvoting then voting me.  Completely forgot he had been voting me.  It's been a long weekend.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 08:19:31 pm
We all make mistakes.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Criptfeind on June 09, 2010, 08:33:38 pm
Do yall still need a replacement?

I would be down wit that.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 09, 2010, 08:36:18 pm
The only replacement I might need is a mod replacement.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 08:36:53 pm
No. Penngo's still here. And you were a player, so you can't replace anyway. Web just can't change the title for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Criptfeind on June 09, 2010, 08:37:44 pm
The only replacement I might need is a mod replacement.

I can do that too if ye want.

No. Penngo's still here. And you were a player, so you can't replace anyway. Web just can't change the title for whatever reason.

I have seen players replace back in, but only if they cant know anything.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Diablous on June 09, 2010, 08:43:25 pm
The only replacement I might need is a mod replacement.

I can do that too if ye want.

I wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 09, 2010, 08:47:02 pm
Criptmod is acceptable to me as well.

The mod is dead. Long live the mod.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: webadict on June 09, 2010, 10:04:03 pm
Sorry, my minions. It was very unfortunate: first I lost my internet, then my electricity, then my computer. I'll send criptfeind the role list. Org can send the link to mafia chat to you.

Hopefully the game will move more fluidly.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Criptfeind on June 09, 2010, 10:15:48 pm
The talking, the fighting, the deciding-to-lynch-that-ugly-guy, it is all done with Kilikan hanging from a rope. Where the rope came from you don't know.

As you take his stuff look to find his team find a GUN on him...

A toy guy, turns out he was a cowboy clown at the daycare and worked in the cancer ward of the children's hospital on his time off, hell he does not even like spaghetti.

Obviously he was a Towny

...

You spray paint his gun to make it look real.

Night ends in 48 hours. No posting.

Edit:

Oy right, vote count:

Vote Count
------------------------
Ottofar -
kilakan - Lonewolf I, penngo009, Diablous, Zako
Lonewolf I -
Zako - Rabble
penngo009 - Ottofar
Rabble -
Diablous -
Not Voting - kilikan
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 11, 2010, 05:43:22 pm
A WARNING, THERE IS LESS THAN 5 HOURS TO PUT IN A ACTION! I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ALL ACTIONS!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 11, 2010, 11:16:01 pm
Night actions are now over due! Prods are being sent and the night has been exstended 24 hours.

Weekends count for 0 hours. Lets hope they don't take the entire 72 hours.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 14, 2010, 11:50:02 pm
Grrrr...

The night is almost done I swear.
Title: OH GOD FINALLY!
Post by: Criptfeind on June 15, 2010, 07:29:27 pm
OH GOD FINALLY!

You all wake up and come to the meeting room... all of you but ottofar that is. He was killed during the night. He must be a Towny!



Vote count:

kilakan -
Lonewolf I -
Zako -
penngo009 -
Rabble -
Diablous -
Not Voting - kilikan, Lonewolf I, penngo009, Diablous, Zako,  Rabble.

You realize that if you do not hit scum today you will all die.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 15, 2010, 07:32:09 pm
... Ottofar? He was killed? The hell? Well, time to look back with this info in mind.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 15, 2010, 07:34:51 pm
After such a long time I should ask if anyone needs a replace?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 15, 2010, 08:04:19 pm
Well with this info in mind, my top 3 suspicions are as follows:

penngo009. Ottofar attacked him, and only him yesterday, and didn't do much else. This puts him kinda high on my list.

Rabble. Has contributed little to this game and has lurked greatly.

Zako. Was attacked by Cript on day 1. He also attacks Ottofar yesterday, asks him questions that Ottofar never answers, then stops and attacks Kilakan for stopping his attack on Lonewolf. He criticizes Kila for what he just did. Very scummy. Also, he was the last to place a vote on Bandages and Kilakan. Scum trying to make so he's not focused on when they flip town.

So, Zako, let's start with this. Why did you stop your attack on Ottofar, who never answered your question, and when Kilakan stops his attack, you use that to accuse him, despite how you stopped attacking Ottofar?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Zako on June 15, 2010, 11:21:57 pm
I saw that it was going nowhere because he never answers! Look in Bay 12 Mafia, he does the same there! I thought it would be pointless to continue pressuring him and decided to move onto a new suspect. Turns out they were both town, but I have a suspicion.

I think that penngo009 is scum. Look through this thread, he has said the smallest amount of everyone, other than Ottofar, has made little to no scumhunting and just smells scummy to me.

penngo009, why are you not scumhunting?! Is it because you are trying to fade into the background? Explain yourself!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Ottofar on June 16, 2010, 03:48:04 am
Bah-post.

Anyways, can I get to know the roles, now that I'm dead?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 16, 2010, 10:12:09 am
I saw that it was going nowhere because he never answers! Look in Bay 12 Mafia, he does the same there! I thought it would be pointless to continue pressuring him and decided to move onto a new suspect. Turns out they were both town, but I have a suspicion.

I think that penngo009 is scum. Look through this thread, he has said the smallest amount of everyone, other than Ottofar, has made little to no scumhunting and just smells scummy to me.

penngo009, why are you not scumhunting?! Is it because you are trying to fade into the background? Explain yourself!

Hmm. Somewhat satisfing. Unvote.

I think Rabble is worse with the lack of contribution. He has contributed little and lurked greatly.
 
So, Rabble, why have you contributed little and lurk so much?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 16, 2010, 10:29:50 am
Bah-post.

Anyways, can I get to know the roles, now that I'm dead?

Don't see why not. You tell no one eh?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: kilakan on June 16, 2010, 11:21:22 am
bah-post,
can i see it too?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 16, 2010, 11:52:45 am
Diablous and Zako are my choices for scum.  I have a better case against Zako, considering the substantial quantity of his scumslips early-game and his weak excuses for them.  Also, he and Diablous were the third and fourth votes on kilikan.  A clear case of bandwagoning.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 16, 2010, 11:54:20 am
Also, notice how Diablous voted Zako and then immediately switched to Rabble.  He voted his scumbuddy to try and pull suspicion off of their being a team, then switches so that his scumbuddy won't get wagoned and lynched.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 16, 2010, 12:19:05 pm
Lonewolf, I intend on coming back to Zako if my attack on Rabble brings no new evidence. I found his response to my attack on him to be somewhat satisfactory. He is still high on my list of suspicions.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 16, 2010, 12:50:09 pm
Hmm...

I think you're just saying that, but let's roll with it.  In that case, my second choice for scum would be Penngo, not Rabble, since Rabble didn't participate in lynching Kilikan.

Also, cop:  If you're out there, claim now.  We're at Lylo (Lynch scum or lose), so we need cop results.
Doc: You lay low.  Since scum haven't failed to hit yet, there's no useful info you can bring to the table.
Title: Re: OH GOD FINALLY!
Post by: Criptfeind on June 16, 2010, 03:10:33 pm
Vote count:

kilakan -
Lonewolf I -
Zako - Lonewolf I
penngo009 - Zako
Rabble - Diablous
Diablous -
Not Voting - kilikan, penngo009, Rabble.


Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 16, 2010, 03:11:19 pm
Anyway because of last night I will need a post or a PM saying why you are not posting per day or I will replace.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Zako on June 17, 2010, 03:04:24 am
Just thought of a scum trap. I support you wolf, cop should claim now.

And by the way, am I the most suspicious in everyone's point of view?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 10:39:24 am
And by the way, am I the most suspicious in everyone's point of view?

You, penngo009, and Rabble are kinda competing for #1 on my list right now.
Title: I NEED TWO REPLACEMENTS!
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 12:44:25 pm
I NEED REPLACEMENTS! PENNGO009 AND RABBLE ARE BASICALLY GONE AND HAVE NOT POSTED IN FAR TOO LONG!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 12:47:43 pm
I checked their profiles. They haven't been on in days.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 12:50:19 pm
And that is why they are being replaced.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 12:53:27 pm
Well, Diabolous, let's both vote Zako, shorten, and see what happens.  If we can do it before Zako moves his vote to Rabble we can find out if we're right.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 12:56:35 pm
There is no hammers in this game.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:00:28 pm
Unvote. Zako. Shorten. I'm not really sure if the mod will let us end the day when we need 2 replacements though.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:02:13 pm
I am conflicted about ending it when two are gone to say the least.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:06:49 pm
Your willingness to sacrifice Zako suggests to me that you're either scum and know Zako is town, or you are town.  Set aside your conflict, Criptfiend.  We want this.  Shorten
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:07:41 pm
That or you're bussing, but I find that a bit unlikely, for gut reasons that I probably shouldn't be listening to. :-P
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:08:24 pm
I bussing at this stage would be moronic.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:10:33 pm
Anyway, I'm willing to stake this game on my belief that Zako is scum.  Whether or not you are is going to be fun to decide if I live to see the morrow.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:12:55 pm
Of course, this strategy could be all for nothing if a one-third vote is not enough to end the day...
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:20:17 pm
Set aside your conflict, Criptfiend.  We want this.  Shorten

Okay.



You all turn to Zako. You know he must be the one, he must die. Lonewolf takes up the pistol and advance towards him. Suddenly he luges and grabs the gun from wolf! He shouts out "I AM NOT MAFIA I DON'T WANT TO KILL YOU BUT I WI" *BAM* A hole opens up in his head as a shot from behind Lonewolf echos across the room. "Hey thanks man" He says as the turns to see who killed Zako. He sees in confusion and than terror that Rabble is pointing a gun at him as Penngo009 is holding onto Diablous with a gun to his head.

...

*BAM* *BAM*



Losers:
Bandages - Townie
Ottofar - Townie
kilikan - Townie
Lonewolf I - Townie
Zako - Townie
Criptfeind - Townie
Diablous - Townie

Winners:
None

Kicked out of the game:
penngo009 - Mob
Rabble - Mob

There ya go.

Scum chat. (http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/FDBX2V7Yu2SbR)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:21:30 pm
Crap.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:22:15 pm
Ya.

Crap
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:23:10 pm
Well, good game everybody. I can't believe our entire scum team left in the middle of the night.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:32:22 pm
They left on like day 2.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:35:05 pm
Well, since the scum team left, no one won.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Org on June 17, 2010, 01:36:26 pm
I would have liked for some replacements.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:39:38 pm
I would have liked for some replacements.

Me too. But meh.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:40:48 pm
I never would have suspected Rabble.  Maybe if he would have posted?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:41:42 pm
I never would have suspected Rabble.  Maybe if he would have posted?

He lurked way too much.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:44:04 pm
I was hoping you guys would see that it was held up for so long and there were two people who were not on. I guess not. (Yes this is the mod admitting to not being impartial.)
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:47:29 pm
True.  That does seem obvious in retrospect.
At least this debacle is over.  I can focus more on the other games now. See y'all in BMXII! :-D
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:52:55 pm
Read the scum chat. Penngo009 thinks I'm a girl.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 01:56:38 pm
I did, too, but I already made that mistake with spitfire.  I'm not acting on that mistake again anytime soon. :-P
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 01:57:53 pm
Is it the female avatar?
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 01:59:27 pm
I though spit was a girl and I though you were a boy. So it is not all avatars
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Lonewolf I on June 17, 2010, 02:10:16 pm
Yes, it is the avatar.  It speaks to me of a demonic queen hiding behind a masquerade of cuteness.  I may be letting them affect my judgement more than I thought, now I think of it.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 02:11:45 pm
I have learned to click and see what gender they are and if it is not listed than I avoid saying ether.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 02:55:20 pm
I may be letting them affect my judgement more than I thought, now I think of it.

Possibly.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Ottofar on June 17, 2010, 04:31:44 pm
I'm proud of myself. I. Found. Scum.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 04:41:58 pm
I had them in my top 3!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Zako on June 17, 2010, 04:47:50 pm
Did I really seem all that scummy? I told you it was pennngo, I TOLD YOU.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 04:48:47 pm
Did I really seem all that scummy?

Yep.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 07:53:51 pm
I'm proud of myself. I. Found. Scum.

And than you died.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Org on June 17, 2010, 07:54:25 pm
Scum might have done better had the mod not cheated.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 07:56:21 pm
Oy?

Scum fucken won.

Not my fault there was no scum at the time.

Edit: Other than you.

Edit2: Really they sorta won but I can not say they won because they did not post for ten days
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Diablous on June 17, 2010, 07:56:57 pm
They are the ones that left with no warning.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Org on June 17, 2010, 07:58:41 pm
What.
Oh. They lynched Zako?
Woops.
Woooooooooo.
Org, Scum IC, and last scum, wins!
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.
Post by: Org on June 17, 2010, 07:59:42 pm
Web ran it differently.
Meh.
Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 2: Tales From the Cript [REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
Post by: Criptfeind on June 17, 2010, 08:13:07 pm
The mod is dead. Long live the mod.

Don't talk of the dead.