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Title: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: Skeggox on May 23, 2010, 05:44:17 am
I was thinking the first Obsidian competition (I like those - they stimulate the users into awesomeness) will be:

Design a logo for Obsidian!

Yeah, I need a logo for the splash screen.

Your prize - you can sign the image and go in the credits and one day when thousands of players use this tool (here's to hoping), your work will be the first thing they see.

Your inspiration:

This is an obsidian logo. All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. This object menaces with spikes of Lua. It is encircled with bands of OpenGL. On the item is an image of a fortress. The fortress is being rendered in 3D.


I don't know how much time the artists will need, so I'm going to wait until we have at least 3 serious entries, before I add a poll to see who is the winner. If more time is needed, just yell.

P.S. You can also use this as an excuse to get any artistic person introduced into the wonderful world of alcoholic suicidal midgets, so spread the word, please?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Bloogonis on May 23, 2010, 12:06:26 pm
I'm definitely throwing my hand into this. still very much WIP but here is what Im going for. what do y'all think?

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d188/Bloogonis/Dwarf%20Fort/Obsidian.png)

Edit: I plan to make the background more Magma'y and work of giving the Obsidian sphere more dimension. this makes me sad that I still haven't replaced my tablet  :'(
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 23, 2010, 01:27:03 pm
Wow...

The first post didn't even have time to settle in, make itself a nice cup of tea, or read the funnies in the newspaper before the first entry sneak peak arrived!

And looking very good too, so far!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 23, 2010, 03:53:50 pm
I'm doing something very similar to Bloogonis's idea, however on 3dsmax...
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Sizik on May 23, 2010, 04:30:11 pm
I submit my cast obsidian statue.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Except, of course, rendered using Obsidian.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Aklyon on May 23, 2010, 11:47:07 pm
Quote from: Sizik on May 23, 2010, 04:30:11 pm
I submit my cast obsidian statue.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Except, of course, rendered using Obsidian.
could you tilt that a bit to the left or right? I couldn't tell what it was until i noticed the top looked kinda like a helmet.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Bloogonis on May 24, 2010, 12:34:51 am
Quote from: Djohaal on May 23, 2010, 03:53:50 pm
I'm doing something very similar to Bloogonis's idea, however on 3dsmax...
Bah, I knew I should have said something before I started work on it, My Paint.net skills were failing me since I don't have a tablet and only a touch-pad mouse. So I started making a 3d sphere in Blender. I made the mistake of animating it an then hitting the render button so I am delayed for a bit.

Well a little competition never hurt anyone, and that's what this is right.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Itnetlolor on May 24, 2010, 12:50:13 am
This sounds like an interesting challenge.

Initial thought I have is hashing together some text of OBSIDIAN rendered to look like the texture (sorta like obsidian arrowheads; font looking similar in boldness/form; simple to pull off in Photoshop). Maybe using a photo-reference, or at least attempt to mimic it as if the text was made of it. That's my thought at least.

I might try to mock up something tomorrow if I have the time.

@Sizik: IMHO you can use a better font for that. The font seems too fine for the content. We can combine efforts, considering if my idea works out.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 24, 2010, 12:51:12 am
Out of pure curiosity, why choose a sphere?

Is it because of the material display spheres made famous by 3D Studio Max (I think)?

Or was it pure coinkidink?

As for Sizik's statue - if it wins the competition we'll have to go recursive and actually render it with Obsidian (once it can, of course) :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Ledi on May 24, 2010, 01:39:16 am
...I've got an idea, just need a little time to work on it... silly tablet drivers need reinstalling. >.<
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Bloogonis on May 24, 2010, 02:15:51 am
Well here it is, I should get some rest since I have class tomorrow. again still wip, but less so then the first image.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 24, 2010, 08:30:32 am
One night's work, I don't like the cracks though, it looks more like basalt at this stage, the displacement has too much grain and noise. I need to do some adjustments.

It has bands and spikes thought  :P

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'll add the obsidan logo and etc later, and it'll be rendered in higher resolution too.

Originally (and I'm still considering it) I thought about something like a badge made of obsidian (think of Urist's holy order of Obsidian :P ) but for now I like this intruging tingmagjing with bands and menancing spikes and cracks.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Tenth Speed Writer on May 24, 2010, 12:00:45 pm
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:bbOKYc1wHKk3CM:http://www.answersincreation.org/curriculum/geology/images/Obsidian.jpg)

For those that've never seen it, real obsidian.
It's got a nice smooth, glassy quality. (Which it is, actually. Dwarves are just awesome enough to carve it like stone.)

(Also: You may note I have no qualms about leaching an image from "answersincreation.org".)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Bloogonis on May 24, 2010, 12:36:16 pm
For my image I was using Obsidian Spheres as my muse.
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=obsidian%20sphere&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=obsidian%20sphere&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi)

Humans also made lots of art using Obsidian. Prime examples are the Aztecs.

Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 24, 2010, 01:24:05 pm
I love the smell of real talent in the morning!

 8)

I lost a small skirmish against Obsidian last night when the OSG (the rendering tech I'm planning to use) refused to bind itself to Lua. I tried two methods, but nope. Grrr...

Then I saw Djohaal's entry... and was inspired.

A bloody-nosed OSG is now obediently setting up a scene when I ask for it, and whilst the camera node still attempts to bite me each chance it gets, I've got it wrapped in masterwork chains of Lua.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 24, 2010, 02:06:57 pm
Quote from: Skeggox on May 24, 2010, 01:24:05 pm
I love the smell of real talent in the morning!

 8)

I lost a small skirmish against Obsidian last night when the OSG (the rendering tech I'm planning to use) refused to bind itself to Lua. I tried two methods, but nope. Grrr...

Then I saw Djohaal's entry... and was inspired.

A bloody-nosed OSG is now obediently setting up a scene when I ask for it, and whilst the camera node still attempts to bite me each chance it gets, I've got it wrapped in masterwork chains of Lua.

Talent? No. More like over five years of work learning 3d. Glad to know I helped with motivation :D
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Itnetlolor on May 24, 2010, 07:14:43 pm
Okay. Finally got some time to mock up something. Seeing as I'm going the typographic route, and also considering the difference between readability and style, I made 2 versions of the logo. There are the full-size ones to work with, as well as a reduced screen-size version of them.



Here they are:
Spoiler: Full Scale (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Reduced (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 24, 2010, 07:46:58 pm
Looks like we have a few contenders :)

Right, to those who have entered so far - how much time do you need?

I'm thinking of making the new entry deadline one week from now, with an additional week to finish before we vote.

(I have no idea what a good period of time is - let me hear your thoughts!)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 24, 2010, 07:52:04 pm
Unless I get crazy with perfectionist ideas I think one week is enough.

So far I have a pretty render in the works, however if I run out of ideas on how to put the "obisidan" title on it then i'll probably be up to some collab work
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Rotten on May 24, 2010, 08:12:28 pm
(http://i47.tinypic.com/28v4mf4.jpg)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Adamantine Fist on May 25, 2010, 12:38:20 am
Inspired by Bloogonis' first attempt, though rather unfinished as of yet:
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/AdamantineFist/DF/ObsidianEye.png)

It's very simple at this point, and I plan on making a great deal of refinement, including text. More of a concept than anything.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Aklyon on May 25, 2010, 12:46:08 am
Quote from: Adamantine Fist on May 25, 2010, 12:38:20 am
Inspired by Bloogonis' first attempt, though rather unfinished as of yet:
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/AdamantineFist/DF/ObsidianEye.png)

It's very simple at this point, and I plan on making a great deal of refinement, including text. More of a concept than anything.
That is cool.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 10:43:27 am
Well, after some tinkering, here's my entry. A bit oversized and with bad ratio, but we can always crop it to fit different monitor sizes. I always overshoot my renders.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is an obsidian logo. All craftdjohaalship is of the highest quality. This object menaces with spikes of progressive path tracing. It is encircled with bands of sloppy photoshop. On the item is an image of a fortress. The fortress is being rendered in 3D.

@Itnetlolor: D'oh, we used the same damn font! And to think I went to google to download it, is it "Cloister Black" the name of that font you used?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 25, 2010, 10:46:36 am
Oh dear god Djohaal. That is awesome.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Randominality on May 25, 2010, 10:59:58 am
No offense Djohaal (it looks like it took you a while to create those gold spikes). But I think it would look vastly better without those golden bits attached to the obsidian sphere. The net of the fortress inside the obsidian is a really good stroke though.

Just my £0.02 :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 25, 2010, 11:06:09 am
Quote from: Randominality on May 25, 2010, 10:59:58 am
No offense Djohaal (it looks like it took you a while to create those gold spikes). But I think it would look vastly better without those golden bits attached to the obsidian sphere. The net of the fortress inside the obsidian is a really good stroke though.

Just my £0.02 :)

I like them. They look like they're securing the orb in place. They also make it look like some sort of cosmic keystone.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 12:02:06 pm
Quote from: Randominality on May 25, 2010, 10:59:58 am
No offense Djohaal (it looks like it took you a while to create those gold spikes). But I think it would look vastly better without those golden bits attached to the obsidian sphere. The net of the fortress inside the obsidian is a really good stroke though.

Just my £0.02 :)

Like this?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This was a 10-minute render, mind the noise....

I kind of like it, looks a little minimalist, however I think the golden stuff gives it a little more imposition, not to mention a little distraction from the otherwise monotonous reflection patterns.
I don't know, if people end liking this one more I might do a proper render of it as a secondary version.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 25, 2010, 12:04:06 pm
Keep the spikes at least. This is DF, it has to menace with spikes.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 25, 2010, 12:23:48 pm
Djohaal, I keep trying to write a proper post about how awesome your entry is... but... I keep... getting distra... wow.

You are more than welcome to throw the spike-less version in as a second entry (although I reaaally like the spikes), there is no hard limit on entries per person (within reason, of course).

What about a third entry, keeping the three spikes but dropping the support columns?

We'll let the community decide through voting.

So, the first official enty is in. For the rest of the competitors, Djohaal has set the bar, let us see if you can do better.  :D

Speaking of which, I'm setting the entry deadline to Friday, 12pm Pacific Standard Time. I'll throw up a poll on this thread and give everyone the weekend to vote.
The poll will close and the winning entry be chosen on Sunday night, 10pm PST.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: soundandfury on May 25, 2010, 12:37:32 pm
Crappily knocked together in GIMP:
Spoiler: Large, 3162x1020 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Small, 800x258 (click to show/hide)

It does have a fort being rendered on it, in the middle of the O; it is in fact taken from a 3-D view in DF Designer.  However, since DFD's 3d view is fairly shitty, I've been careful to make it unobtrusive through the power of translucence.

My obsidian texture is basically made of fragments of mandelbrots (from my own bastard crazy mandelbrot render), while the magma is from one of GIMP's built-in plugins ("Lava").
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Aklyon on May 25, 2010, 12:40:22 pm
Quote from: Urist Imiknorris on May 25, 2010, 12:04:06 pm
Keep the spikes at least. This is DF, it has to menace with spikes.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: daemoria on May 25, 2010, 12:44:03 pm
correction; spikes and hanging rings is dwarf fortress. I saw no such thing. :D
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 25, 2010, 12:47:24 pm
Hanging rings are actually near-worthless to the dwarves ingame. Encircled with bands is more proper. Hanging rings are valuable to the elves.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Ratbert_CP on May 25, 2010, 12:54:49 pm
Quote from: Urist Imiknorris on May 25, 2010, 12:47:24 pm
Hanging rings are actually near-worthless to the dwarves ingame. Encircled with bands is more proper. Hanging rings are valuable to the elves.

And hanging elves are valuable to, well, everyone!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Farmerbob on May 25, 2010, 01:09:40 pm
  I'm no artist, but wanted to toss this out there:

This is an obsidian sword (macahuitl) similar one might think to what our dwarves apparently can make.  The Aztecs used them.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Macahuitl.png)

Taken from wikipedia, I did not create it.  Looks like some sort of old dictionary or encyclopedia image.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 03:29:21 pm
I'll try doing a better minimalistic obsidian orb. I already did a series on spheres that was quite nice...

http://djohaal.deviantart.com/art/Soul-90954620?q=gallery%3ADjohaal%2F4857490&qo=83 (http://djohaal.deviantart.com/art/Soul-90954620?q=gallery%3ADjohaal%2F4857490&qo=83)
http://djohaal.deviantart.com/art/Mind-90937615?q=gallery%3ADjohaal%2F4857490&qo=84 (http://djohaal.deviantart.com/art/Mind-90937615?q=gallery%3ADjohaal%2F4857490&qo=84)
http://djohaal.deviantart.com/art/Body-91072182?q=gallery%3ADjohaal%2F4857490&qo=82 (http://djohaal.deviantart.com/art/Body-91072182?q=gallery%3ADjohaal%2F4857490&qo=82)

Already tried. It looks awful, sorry but it'll be with spikes and bands and supports only.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Itnetlolor on May 25, 2010, 06:59:13 pm
Pardon the delayed response.

Our fonts are similar, but not the same. Old English Text MT was the font I used. I don't remember if it came with PS or not. I like how it turned out. You do have permission to see if it works with your image. I already made the background transparent, and I also have the two scale-versions posted as well, so you can fit it how you like.

Any advice regarding adjustments to it is welcome BTW. I'm only doing typographic art for it, since that can make or break certain images as a whole. So, just putting it out there, if you think it'll work, you're welcome to use either one or give me pointers on what you need.

EDIT:
Oh, and 1 vote for spikes; but can you render it minus a background (transparent)? Seeing as it serves as a splash screen.

EDIT EDIT:
I did a really quick mockup of your image with my typography. Just add a bit of an outer glow to my contribution, and it actually looks nicer and makes it more visible. Just don't have the glow too bright, otherwise it'll take away from the texture of the type; not as if the reduced scale didn't do enough. About a 45% glow should work. Visible up close, and still visible when reduced in scale.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 07:05:25 pm
Quote from: Itnetlolor on May 25, 2010, 06:59:13 pm
Pardon the delayed response.

Our fonts are similar, but not the same. Old English Text MT was the font I used. I don't remember if it came with PS or not. I like how it turned out. You do have permission to see if it works with your image. I already made the background transparent, and I also have the two scale-versions posted as well, so you can fit it how you like.

Any advice regarding adjustments to it is welcome BTW. I'm only doing typographic art for it, since that can make or break certain images as a whole. So, just putting it out there, if you think it'll work, you're welcome to use either one or give me pointers on what you need.

EDIT:
Oh, and 1 vote for spikes; but can you render it minus a background (transparent)? Seeing as it serves as a splash screen.

If you can think a way of improving the typography of the obsidian title I did, be welcome (I'm tinkering with it right now actually).

I'm not going to change the design as it is because a simple standing black orb reminds me too much of the palantir (oddly with all the golden tinjgamigs it doesn't O_O) however I can churn out an alpha mask for it, however it'll look weird because then it'll be reflecting a nonexistent enviroment. Fresnel reflections in spheres and such get weird without a underlying background.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Itnetlolor on May 25, 2010, 07:17:11 pm
What kind of improvements to the type do you think I need to make? Better font for certain letters? Better kerning?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 07:28:34 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Added a black background (it can be cropped to anything) and adjusted the letters a little (added a subtle fade so they look like to be "in" the orb, and not overlaid). The background looks weird without its orangy glory though.

Itnetlolor: I asked for your insight on my awful typography, not the opposite  :o I think we had a language crash there.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: bmaczero on May 25, 2010, 07:58:35 pm
I'm going to do something for this, after I have dinner, read this thread, and figure out what Obsidian is  ;).
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Itnetlolor on May 25, 2010, 08:13:13 pm
Quote from: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 07:28:34 pm
Itnetlolor: I asked for your insight on my awful typography, not the opposite  :o I think we had a language crash there.
Right, sorry about that. :facepalm:

It's pretty good as it is, I guess you can add either a lighter or darker fill to it to give it a little extra dimension, maybe scooch it over a few pixels to the right (center it horizontally a bit). All aside, it fits the style quite well.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 08:16:14 pm
Quote from: Itnetlolor on May 25, 2010, 08:13:13 pm
Quote from: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 07:28:34 pm
Itnetlolor: I asked for your insight on my awful typography, not the opposite  :o I think we had a language crash there.
Right, sorry about that. :facepalm:

It's pretty good as it is, I guess you can add either a lighter or darker fill to it to give it a little extra dimension. All aside, it fits the style quite well.

I think I'll fix that mini-fortress lattice in there. It looks like a huge mess at most spots, and one can only figure out it means galleries due to the longer ones extending around.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: bmaczero on May 25, 2010, 08:54:51 pm
Well, here's my first go.  I don't know how to compete with Djohaal, but I'll try (kind of :p)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 25, 2010, 08:57:44 pm
Ohh, me likes the letters
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Adamantine Fist on May 25, 2010, 11:42:06 pm
Current status of my submition:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I personally prefer the first of the two. Seems a bit smoother to me. The text might need a bit of work, though.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Duane on May 25, 2010, 11:52:36 pm
(http://i48.tinypic.com/vhypuw.jpg)
Went to a font website, searched Dwarven.
Helps really well with projects like this. Especially because it actually looks dwarven.
Here you go, etc. (http://www.dafont.com/dwarven-stonecraft.font)
Not a submission, not that it competes.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Randominality on May 26, 2010, 05:55:00 am
Hmm, still not a fan of the supports, but other people seem to like them.
I wonder what it would look like if the lettering were embossed onto the sphere? Might look rubbish though - I can't tell. Although embossed onto the supports it might be quite nice.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Janus on May 26, 2010, 07:22:27 am
Well, not a logo, but here's an icon if you like:
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2481/obsidianicon.png)


Quote from: Duane on May 25, 2010, 11:52:36 pm
(http://i48.tinypic.com/vhypuw.jpg)
Went to a font website, searched Dwarven.
Helps really well with projects like this. Especially because it actually looks dwarven.
Here you go, etc. (http://www.dafont.com/dwarven-stonecraft.font)
Not a submission, not that it competes.
Hah, yeah, that's the font I used for the DFFD site logo. It is a rather nice one.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: soundandfury on May 26, 2010, 07:52:18 am
Update to my earlier entry. Now uses an actual magma photo instead of crappy GIMP procedural lava.

Spoiler: Large, 3162x1020 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Small, 800x258 (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 26, 2010, 09:21:45 am
Ooh, Janus, good one! Thanks, I completely forgot about the icon :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: soundandfury on May 26, 2010, 10:15:45 am
icon-version to go with my entry:
(http://dev-null.chu.cam.ac.uk/img/obs_ico.png)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 26, 2010, 02:44:48 pm
Quote from: bmaczero on May 25, 2010, 08:54:51 pm
Well, here's my first go.  I don't know how to compete with Djohaal, but I'll try (kind of :p)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Actually it looks quite cool. Try doing it with that "dwarven" font people posted here :) Also remove that blue fringe and add a drop-shadow effect to the stone slab.

I also loved janus's icon.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Retro on May 26, 2010, 02:51:21 pm
I'd just like to throw in my two cents here - all these designs are very good, and in a lot of cases, pretty similar as well (black orb, magma background). However it seems to me that all these images are packed to the brim with colour and rendering and raaaah look at me I'm a floating evil ball of obsidian. Perhaps consider simplifying a bit (especially the backgrounds)? I feel like a fancy-looking ball/orb/sphere, a completely flat (ie. just black) background, and white noiseless text would be sufficient.

Perhaps I should try my own hand at this, or at least a mockup of what I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 26, 2010, 02:57:12 pm
Just to make it official - Janus' icon is now in Obsidian. I just really liked it :)

It had that Quake II feel about it...
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: xobl1v10nx on May 26, 2010, 09:21:48 pm
Wooh, first post.
I was bored, so I figured I would give this a try. I didn't think that I would actually submit it, but I like how it turned out, so here it is.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: Changed the bevel. Still need to clean the edges up a bit.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 26, 2010, 09:41:55 pm
Love the smell of magma in the morning.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Aklyon on May 26, 2010, 10:31:39 pm
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)
You've got the DF part down. it looks like an elf got hit by a axedwarf so hard he looped around before flying off.
But, yeah, obsidian is kinda needed in the icon for Obsidian.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 26, 2010, 10:54:01 pm
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)
Wow I like this one the most of all those demonstrated so far. Good work!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 26, 2010, 10:57:14 pm
Woohoo - the competition heats up!

This thread is so cool that evaporated awesome condenses on it. :P

This competition is really inspiring, by the way. I'd better make sure Obsidian is good enough to deserve such a logo!

I'm actually at this very moment whispering sweet nothings in the ear of the Lua binding generator, trying to get it to do what I want it to do without complaining. But unless it gets its act together in the next few hours, I'm afraid I'll have to go and fetch the aluminium baseball bat (encircled with bands of duck tape and menacing with spikes of roofing nails)... Carrot and stick, you know, carrot and stick...   ;)

Just a reminder:

Deadline for submitting logo entries is this Friday, 12pm Pacific Standard Time

At that time I will collect all entries marked as FINAL, post them to the wiki and open a voting poll thread.
Each competitor can enter as many logo's as they want, as long as they keep it the number reasonable. Stylistic variations on their main entry is also welcome.


Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Retro on May 27, 2010, 01:10:29 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)

I like this the most as well, though not the dot on the I.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 27, 2010, 03:29:46 am
Quote from: Retro on May 27, 2010, 01:10:29 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)

I like this the most as well, though not the dot on the I.
Yeah, dot on the i is strange.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 27, 2010, 03:48:41 am
I prefer GFXiNXS' and xobl1v10nx's logo. Amazing.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 27, 2010, 04:46:43 am
Well... thats somewhat...shit. Computer crashed mid-save. One corrupted *.psd file. Tried psd recovery and only salvaged a couple of mask layers. Not a happy panda.

Not sure I can be bothered recovering lost ground.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 27, 2010, 07:52:44 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 27, 2010, 04:46:43 am
Well... thats somewhat...shit. Computer crashed mid-save. One corrupted *.psd file. Tried psd recovery and only salvaged a couple of mask layers. Not a happy panda.

Not sure I can be bothered recovering lost ground.
But yours was the best!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: bmaczero on May 27, 2010, 08:56:43 am
Wow, how does that happen?  ???  Sucks...
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: bmaczero on May 27, 2010, 09:10:59 am
Here's V2 of mine...it's quite different from the last one, so tell me which bits are an improvement and which I should remove.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Original for reference:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Retro on May 27, 2010, 09:13:45 am
Quote from: bmaczero on May 27, 2010, 09:10:59 am
Here's V2 of mine...it's quite different from the last one, so tell me which bits are an improvement and which I should remove.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's too faded to be able to read. You may want to either strengthen the outline of the letters or darken the text.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Armok on May 27, 2010, 09:24:13 am
Quote from: Djohaal on May 25, 2010, 10:43:27 am
Well, after some tinkering, here's my entry. A bit oversized and with bad ratio, but we can always crop it to fit different monitor sizes. I always overshoot my renders.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is an obsidian logo. All craftdjohaalship is of the highest quality. This object menaces with spikes of progressive path tracing. It is encircled with bands of sloppy photoshop. On the item is an image of a fortress. The fortress is being rendered in 3D.

@Itnetlolor: D'oh, we used the same damn font! And to think I went to google to download it, is it "Cloister Black" the name of that font you used?
:o
I vote for this this this this THIIIIIS!!!!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 27, 2010, 09:24:46 am
Graphics card slightly unstable. Prone to corrupting display/locking up computer. Have to start my computer twice to get it to boot properly. Once booted, runs like wind. Still - sporadically decides to hate me at random intervals. Having trouble negotiating my card's replacement. Might have something to do with how pricey it was. Too many full stops. likely due to champagne overdose. Have slightly revived graphic. Using previous as reference. Makes easier. No guesswork. Must work tomorrow. Make more graphics and earn living. See if can skimp real work and replace with fun times. Boss probably no like. Tinted windows on office make happy. Can't see lack of workedly-ness. Using words not found in dictionary and eating dip without crackers. Sleep. Will regret posting in morning.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 27, 2010, 09:26:04 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 27, 2010, 09:24:46 am
Graphics card slightly unstable. Prone to corrupting display/locking up computer. Have to start my computer twice to get it to boot properly. Once booted, runs like wind. Still - sporadically decides to hate me at random intervals. Having trouble negotiating my card's replacement. Might have something to do with how pricey it was. Too many full stops. likely due to champagne overdose. Have slightly revived graphic. Using previous as reference. Makes easier. No guesswork. Must work tomorrow. Make more graphics and earn living. See if can skimp real work and replace with fun times. Boss probably no like. Tinted windows on office make happy. Can't see lack of workedly-ness. Using words not found in dictionary and eating dip without crackers. Sleep. Will regret posting in morning.
Good god man, someone stole all of your articles!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Randominality on May 27, 2010, 09:47:00 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)

You sir are win. Not as overwrought as the other entries.
Simplicity is key I say.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 27, 2010, 10:11:30 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 26, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
Still very much a work in progress, so don't judge it too harshly on its current state. I wanted to get something out in case the competition is due to close soon.

Needs more silhouetty bits. And a volcano. With magma. And possibly something that actually resembles obsidian.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cheers :)

Holy... That's fantastic!  :D

Here are my two final (I hope) entries:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Old favourite, touched up and with new lattice.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Minimalist attempt with sexy gradients.  ;D
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Aklyon on May 27, 2010, 03:14:58 pm
Quote from: Djohaal on May 27, 2010, 10:11:30 am
Here are my two final (I hope) entries:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Old favourite, touched up and with new lattice.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Minimalist attempt with sexy gradients.  ;D
Awesome Duo, but I still think the one menacing with spikes is better.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Veroule on May 27, 2010, 04:40:24 pm
Djohaal, all your renders looked great.  I think just the plain ball doesn't work because it doesn't look to have good depth, you need the spikes.
I think the spikes you have are a little too big though, and the 3 supports over power the rest of it.  I would suggest making a single support
and more spikes, with all the spikes smaller.  The only thing I haven't liked at all was the text, try a few different fonts with the same effects.

Your last minimalist one might make a good icon if the text was removed.  Consider seeing how it shrinks down.
GFXiNXS, I hope you can recover and rebuild.  For the purpose of a splash screen during loading/launch I think yours is best and look forward
to voting for it.


Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Farmerbob on May 27, 2010, 06:32:57 pm
Quote from: bmaczero on May 27, 2010, 09:10:59 am
Here's V2 of mine...it's quite different from the last one, so tell me which bits are an improvement and which I should remove.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Original for reference:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I like your art here, but it seems to be missing the point.  Your foundation stone image appears to be granite.

I like the idea of an engraved slab, but it's just not obsidian you are using.

Here's a site where lots of different types of real obsidian have been cut in cross section:

http://www.rocksnpots.com/Slabs/Obsidain/obsslb.html

I'm not trying to be a downer here on something that I like, it just doesn't fit this concept as it is now.

**Edit - add below**

You might be able to salvage the granite background, and improve the contrast between the letters and the background by using a granite slab background, and very bold obsidian textured letters?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: BManx2000 on May 28, 2010, 03:14:45 am
A challenger approaches!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, when you said "12 pm", did you mean 12 noon or 12 midnight? If noon, I might not be awake by then, so consider this final. But I will do an improved render overnight and post it tomorrow today when I wake up.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 28, 2010, 03:36:53 am
Back again.

Losing the last version was probably a good thing in the end. Gave me a fresh perspective and I had a lot more direction going into it this time around.

Still a few things I'm not quite happy with, but for now, consider this these FINAL.

Full resolution:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Half resolution (need to make font clearer):
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit:

Dark version full resolution:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dark version half resolution:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 28, 2010, 04:50:23 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 28, 2010, 03:36:53 am
Awesome stuff

I love the new one!

All of it except the chunk of obsidian in the O

Its jarring, doesn't match the style of the rest of the image.

Quote from: BManx2000 on May 28, 2010, 03:14:45 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, when you said "12 pm", did you mean 12 noon or 12 midnight? If noon, I might not be awake by then, so consider this final. But I will do an improved render overnight and post it tomorrow today when I wake up.
This actually looks pretty cool.

And 12pm means noon.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Retro on May 28, 2010, 06:12:35 am
Quote from: forsaken1111 on May 28, 2010, 04:50:23 am
Quote from: GFXiNXS on May 28, 2010, 03:36:53 am
Awesome stuff

I love the new one!

All of it except the chunk of obsidian in the O

Its jarring, doesn't match the style of the rest of the image.

Concur'd. Still my favourite entry, though.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 28, 2010, 09:47:56 am
Definitely.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 28, 2010, 10:11:37 am
Yeah, it looks damn great  :o
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 28, 2010, 11:04:08 am
Just remove that stone, and it would be even better.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 28, 2010, 11:18:32 am
I'm on it. Few more things I'd like to touch on while I'm at it. Glad you guys like my work :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: BManx2000 on May 28, 2010, 12:39:41 pm
All right, here is the final render.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 02:21:19 pm
Righto, competition closed. Let me compile the entries and set up the poll.

So far I have found entries for:
Sizik
Bloogonis
ITnetlolor
Rotten
Djohaal (2)
soundandfury
bmaczero
Adamantine Fist (2)
xobl1v10nx
GFXiNXS (2)
BManx2000

I took the last image submitted for the cases where the poster did not indicate which submission is final.

Alas, farmerbob, I'm not sure if your picture was a submission or not, but if it was I must decline and say 'original art' only. Copyright reasons, amongst other things.

I'm going to add the poll to this thread, unless people think it needs its own thread?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 02:37:21 pm
Poll's up. Vote away!

Let me know if I left anyone out by mistake or added the wrong submission.

The poll will run until we get a clear winner, or there looks to be a very close margin between a few top entries (and I have an idea for that).

GFXiNXS, there were multiple requests for a version without the stone and I'm thinking the time zone differential isn't that great in your case, so you've got a few more hours to finish that version and I'll add it to the poll.

This is a one-vote, no change poll, so if you like GFXiNXS's work, wait a bit for his last entry before voting.

.
.
.

This is SOOO damn exciting. I am really curious who is going to win!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: BManx2000 on May 28, 2010, 02:47:23 pm
I just had this thought: you should modify the thread title to indicate that the voting is open.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 28, 2010, 03:42:50 pm
Quote from: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 02:37:21 pm
This is a one-vote, no change poll, so if you like GFXiNXS's work, wait a bit for his last entry before voting.
Meh, crap I voted before I read this. Oh well.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 03:48:30 pm
How do I modify the thread title?

How do I change the poll to allow vote changes?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 28, 2010, 03:54:13 pm
Quote from: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 03:48:30 pm
How do I modify the thread title?

How do I change the poll to allow vote changes?
Modify thread title by changing subject of first post.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Adamantine Fist on May 28, 2010, 04:03:41 pm
Someone other than myself voted for mine, so I am now extremely happy. :D
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 28, 2010, 04:17:19 pm
I didn't vote for mine. And we already seem to have a winner  :P
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: bmaczero on May 28, 2010, 06:00:55 pm
Quote from: Farmerbob on May 27, 2010, 06:32:57 pm
I like your art here, but it seems to be missing the point.  Your foundation stone image appears to be granite.

I like the idea of an engraved slab, but it's just not obsidian you are using.
Well, thanks, but too late now :-\
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Adamantine Fist on May 28, 2010, 06:24:46 pm
Quote from: Djohaal on May 28, 2010, 04:17:19 pm
I didn't vote for mine. And we already seem to have a winner  :P
That's certainly true, and I'd have to say that he's very deserving of the votes he got.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 06:52:39 pm
Quote from: forsaken1111 on May 28, 2010, 03:54:13 pm
Modify thread title by changing subject of first post.

Well, that's intuitive (sic).

I'm going to leave the poll open till Monday evening (PST), see how things look then.

Even though the current trend seems to favour GFXiNXS's excellent volcano/blood logo, there are others that also stand out (xobl1v10nx's magma disk, djohaal's rendered orb, etc).

The amount of work that went into these entries are considerable, and I'd hate to not use such lovingly crafted examples of craftdwarfship.

What about following DF's example of a random title? It creates a different title each time you load it, by randomly picking the last two words from a list of synonyms.

I'm thinking Obsidian can do the same. We take the top X (I'm thinking three) logo's and Obsidian randomly picks one each time it starts up. It would be a weighted random pick, i.e. the number of votes received by each of the logo's would determine how often it gets picked, relative to the others.

This will of course be an init option so that you can select your favorite logo to display all the time... and only the winning logo will be the official one for online/publication purposes.

What do ya think?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Aklyon on May 28, 2010, 07:54:29 pm
I think that a good idea, but be careful with the weighing. no point having extra logos if you barely ever see them.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: James.Denholm on May 28, 2010, 08:06:56 pm
Graaaargh! Too many good logos!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 28, 2010, 08:20:16 pm
Whoa, voting started already?!? Oh well. I guess if I win, there's nothing stopping me from updating the logo.

Lack of obsidian:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: atomfullerene on May 28, 2010, 08:28:41 pm
Wow, some of these are huge!  Just a hint for future art competitions: If your image can't fit on my screen, I'm never going to be able to see it all at once, and probably won't vote for it.  That said, they look really nice.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 08:50:59 pm
Quote from: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 02:37:21 pm
GFXiNXS, there were multiple requests for a version without the stone and I'm thinking the time zone differential isn't that great in your case, so you've got a few more hours to finish that version and I'll add it to the poll.

I'm thinking adding the stone-less version to the poll now will only dilute the results, so unless anyone objects (or another logo becomes the winner) I will use whichever version GFXiNXS prefers (stone or no-stone).

If we go the random logo route - should I include both versions then?


Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions
Post by: Djohaal on May 28, 2010, 09:00:57 pm
Quote from: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 08:50:59 pm
Quote from: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 02:37:21 pm
GFXiNXS, there were multiple requests for a version without the stone and I'm thinking the time zone differential isn't that great in your case, so you've got a few more hours to finish that version and I'll add it to the poll.

I'm thinking adding the stone-less version to the poll now will only dilute the results, so unless anyone objects (or another logo becomes the winner) I will use whichever version GFXiNXS prefers (stone or no-stone).

If we go the random logo route - should I include both versions then?

Certanly, it'll be funny as people wonder "wasn't there an obsidian shard here?"  :P
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 09:23:40 pm
I feel the same way with including just one logo with a lower weight if doing random logo's - people will bet used to seeing the top few, and then all of a sudden *pop* woah, what is that?

Quote from: James.Denholm on May 28, 2010, 08:06:56 pm
Graaaargh! Too many good logos!

I definitely agree James - each new entry was a more awesome surprise after the others.

<musing>
Just from a professional developer's perspective - a glimpse of the final look and feel for a project really makes a difference in motivation.

The hardest part in starting a new project is to get past the motivational slump that follows the initial rush of "let's try this". Its when the grand idea meets the practicality and the scope of the work required becomes clear.

Most of my side-projects usually peter out around that point, and Obsidian was in danger of that. I had big troubles with the Lua binding generator this week, the basis for all of the other functionality.

But I have to say that seeing these logo's allowed me to power through. Last night I finally cracked it, and now have 80% of DFHack available in Obsidian (I can access materials, creatures and items from DF now :) )

The rest of the project will go easier from this point on, methinks.

Therefore I would like to especially thank Djohaal for his render (got me through the OpenSceneGraph cluster$%$) and GFXiNXS for his volcano logo (it helped me slay the Lua binding generator dragon).

So, yeah, I'm thinking I'll have to add an inspiration section to the credits  8)
</musing>

Next up it will be up to the model artists and render guru's to provide the inspiration! (I'm a visual person, okay?)

Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Veroule on May 29, 2010, 12:19:18 am
GFXiNXS, it seems so empty without the shard within the bloody O.  I am glad you did it with the "dark" version.  The deeper silhouette of the tree and the way there are more stars is what made that the better one for me.  Very nice work!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 29, 2010, 12:21:35 am
Really wish I could vote twice. I like xobl1v10nx's magma disk as well.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: cooz on May 29, 2010, 01:29:09 am
As for GFXiNXS's logo,
I like idea of obsidian stone inside O letter, but current one reminds me wet piece of coal, not magnificent obsidian rock. But as Veroule said, without it looks too empty.

So my vote went for dark logo. Awesome art work!
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 29, 2010, 01:37:43 am
I think it would be better if the chunk of obsidian was done in the same style as the rest of the image

Looks fine without it to me, but if it must be there make it less jarring. I love the rest of the image though
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Chronas on May 29, 2010, 01:46:56 am
I think the splash would make more sense is skeggox's icon was used for the 'O'
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Djohaal on May 29, 2010, 07:59:59 am
Quote from: Skeggox on May 28, 2010, 09:23:40 pm
I feel the same way with including just one logo with a lower weight if doing random logo's - people will bet used to seeing the top few, and then all of a sudden *pop* woah, what is that?

Quote from: James.Denholm on May 28, 2010, 08:06:56 pm
Graaaargh! Too many good logos!

I definitely agree James - each new entry was a more awesome surprise after the others.

<musing>
Just from a professional developer's perspective - a glimpse of the final look and feel for a project really makes a difference in motivation.

The hardest part in starting a new project is to get past the motivational slump that follows the initial rush of "let's try this". Its when the grand idea meets the practicality and the scope of the work required becomes clear.

Most of my side-projects usually peter out around that point, and Obsidian was in danger of that. I had big troubles with the Lua binding generator this week, the basis for all of the other functionality.

But I have to say that seeing these logo's allowed me to power through. Last night I finally cracked it, and now have 80% of DFHack available in Obsidian (I can access materials, creatures and items from DF now :) )

The rest of the project will go easier from this point on, methinks.

Therefore I would like to especially thank Djohaal for his render (got me through the OpenSceneGraph cluster$%$) and GFXiNXS for his volcano logo (it helped me slay the Lua binding generator dragon).

So, yeah, I'm thinking I'll have to add an inspiration section to the credits  8)
</musing>

Next up it will be up to the model artists and render guru's to provide the inspiration! (I'm a visual person, okay?)

I'm tinkering sir! I'm tinkering! But I'm a code idiot!  :P

On your question about the shadow shader, it seems to my lay eyes that the function is a bit more convoluted due to the fact that one can control ambient and diffuse color intensities in VF, and the shadow's color has to be adjusted accordingly. It seems to be linked to some constants (r for instance) which might be the inputs of the diffuse/ambient controller in VF, however that's as far as I managed to think.
I wonder if GFXiNXS could help us with texture artwork.

xobl1v10nx also did a fantastic job on that magma disk, maybe he could help us with texture crafting too! :D
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Sizik on May 29, 2010, 09:39:59 am
Yay, I have two other votes so far.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: soundandfury on May 29, 2010, 12:03:38 pm
Mine has two votes, and I didn't even vote for mine.
(I voted for Djohaal's)

However, GFX's lead is well-deserved.

Incidentally, since everyone here seems to enjoy graphic design so much...
I need menu-button art for the newgui version of DF Designer.  If interested, post in the DFD thread (link in my sig).

Also if anyone wants to make a logo/splash for it, that'd be welcome too; but I won't run a competition because I'm not cool like Skeggox.  (Well, unless loads of people offer logos)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: peterix on May 29, 2010, 05:29:33 pm
Hmm... I just had to make one too... a quick hack job in Inkscape :)
The stone is kinda too rough, but whatever.
(http://dethware.org/obsidian.png)

And here's the .svg, if anyone wants to mess with it more. (http://dethware.org/OBSIDIAN.svg)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Rotten on May 29, 2010, 09:09:49 pm
I voted for GFXiNXS. Awesome work.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: GFXiNXS on May 29, 2010, 10:43:35 pm
Quote from: Djohaal on May 29, 2010, 07:59:59 am
I Wonder if GFXiNXS could help us with texture artwork.

I don't see why not. Let me know if we settle on a style. ie, realistic, or the the new blizzard standard toon-esque etc. and I'll see what I can pitch in.

My spare time varies in abundance/lack there of, so it all depends on timing. Still, more than happy to help where I can. Having a side project that deviates from paid, yet increasingly monotonous work is always welcome :)

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 30, 2010, 02:56:16 am
Despite the fact that cartoony styles are probably easier, I'd say you guys should do realistic because we seem to have a sore lack of those. Besides, Stonesense is already here for the toon stuff.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - VOTE for the logo!
Post by: Skeggox on June 08, 2010, 12:32:17 am
It looks like the people has spoken!


The winner is GFXiNXS's Dark bload-soaked Volcano Vista!

Second place goes to xobl1v10nx's Magma Disk!

Third place is taken by Djohaal's Gold spiked sphere!


Woot!  8)

I'm going to setup Obsidian so that it loads one of these four logo's (GFXiNXS' logo has two versions - with and without the stone) randomly during startup, weighted by the number of votes received by each.

So, the winning artists can make final tweaks to their designs before I add them to Obsidian. Please don't change it radically, though - cleanup work, resizing and signing will be fine.

We need to aim for a good splash screen size. I can crop and resize xobl1v10nx's disk to a nice 700x700. Djohaal, would you be able to re-render at that size and aspect ratio without losing too much detail?

GFXiNXS, I'm going to use your full-size with-stone logo as the official logo on the wiki etc. May I resample both versions at 640x150 for use as splash screens? Or would you prefer to provide smaller splash versions yourself?
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: GFXiNXS on June 08, 2010, 04:03:32 am
I'll see about getting one up. Give me a little time :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 08, 2010, 10:22:48 am
I think it would be more epic if you guys used the full size for the splash (except djohaals, as that is really too big).
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Post by: Yannanth on June 08, 2010, 02:40:52 pm
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Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: Djohaal on June 08, 2010, 03:51:16 pm
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2859/final11s.png)

Resampled.
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: Skeggox on June 08, 2010, 03:53:55 pm
My portrait image is the actual icon for Obsidian, kindly provided by Janus.

Reducing the magma disk down to 64 and less will lose too much detail, I think.

Currently, Obsidian consists of a terminal console, a rendering window and a loading splash screen.

What we could do is use GFXiNS' submissions as the splash screen and credits background, and then use the others as the background for the rendering window and terminal console.

That depends on how colored text will look superimposed on the disk or sphere...

This will all be user configurable through the config.lua file, of course :)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: Djohaal on June 08, 2010, 06:06:50 pm
I can provide a textless version of the gold spike if you wanna overlay dynamic text on it
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: Skeggox on June 08, 2010, 08:28:41 pm
Sweet.

I'll have to leave that as a stretch goal for later, though. I know Linux can easily set the backgrounds for terminal console windows, but I'm not so sure Windows can. If Window's can't do it easily, I'll have to implement a custom graphical console, which is a luxury feature atm.

But I'm all for having sweet eyecandy in Obsidian. It makes a big difference in feel and polish, compared to a simple text-only tool.

So hang on to the source for that image...
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: GFXiNXS on June 08, 2010, 09:43:56 pm
Hey again guys. Logos are provided below. I've been playing around with a less 'glossy' version of the obsidian, though I'm not really satisfied with how it's working out. If I get around to being remotely happy with it, I'll post it for opinions' sake.

Thanks for all your votes :)

With obsidian:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Without obsidian:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Trialling as a header:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Obsidian: Competitions - GFXiNXS for the logo win!
Post by: James.Denholm on June 09, 2010, 03:49:03 am
A thought regarding the orb being used for credits: Perhaps one way to do this would be to simply have a render without the orb as an overlay, and sandwich the text between this overlay and a backing that completes the image.