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Title: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 07:56:32 pm
(I had to retype this, argh).
The Solar System: A suggestion solar system simulation.

Another go at forum games. Since I'm not very creative, I'll leave the creativity to you guys.

Rules:
1: Don't go too fast. You should plan your suggestions to be within less than or exactly 500,000 years*. *(Or whatever, just around that amount of time).
2: No stupid suggestions. How do you know something classifies as stupid? Read it yourself. If it seems like that would never happen in real life, then that's likely a stupid suggestion.
3: You can Veto. You can also support something. ONLY ONE THING CAN HAPPEN AT A TIME.

Goal: There is no goal. The Goal is to play until I, or you get bored. You can make your own goals if you want, though the game won't stop if you reached your goal.
When a majority votes that the system is "done". You are allowed to go back in time to another brand new system. Beware though: You cannot go back.

The beginning:

In the beginning, there was a single red Supergiant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergiant) star. And nothing else.

Then a flash, the sun had gone supernova. The star had reached the end of it's lifetime.

A large cloud of gas was sent into space, within that cloud, a star was born, our sun.

What kind of star is our sun? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification#Yerkes_spectral_classification) (note: It cannot be a super or hyper giant).
What is it's name?

Spoiler: The system now (click to show/hide)

Posting before I have to write this all over again.  :P
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 08:00:42 pm
(I had to retype this, argh).
The Solar System: A suggestion solar system simulation.

Another go at forum games. Since I'm not very creative, I'll leave the creativity to you guys.

Rules:
1: Don't go too fast. You should plan your suggestions to be within less than or exactly 500,000 years*. *(Or whatever, just around that amount of time).
2: No stupid suggestions. How do you know something classifies as stupid? Read it yourself. If it seems like that would never happen in real life, then that's likely a stupid suggestion.
3: You can Veto. You can also support something. ONLY ONE THING CAN HAPPEN AT A TIME.

Agreed, none of that crap which happened in those create your world/universe threads. A little bit of exoticness is fine I guess as there are some strange exoplanets out there.

As far as the sun, it would be a main sequence star and a realistic type (that is, it won't die before life has a chance to evolve) would be F-M.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: ed boy on June 07, 2010, 08:03:48 pm
>Neutron star formed
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 08:05:06 pm
>Neutron star formed

From the supernova, yes, but we're following a protostar that is forming from the stellar nursery.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 08:07:40 pm
>Neutron star formed
I only accept suggestions for the star like this:

[color][type].
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 08:12:33 pm
Besides, a neutron star would be uninhabitable for life as we know it. Despite sci-fi novels such as Dragons Egg.

Main Sequence G or K type.

As far as red dwarfs, those are doable as there are a whole bunch of exoplanets around red dwarf stars.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 08:17:00 pm
I'm actually looking for a Yerkes spectral classification star, but I get the idea what you mean by G or K. Though I would like it to be in YSC form.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: abculatter_2 on June 07, 2010, 08:25:52 pm
Why orbit around a star when you can orbit around a dormant black hole?

As to how this could work out for life, how about have some of them 'feed' off of the radiation of the black hole (wasn't it called Hawking radiation?) just like plants feed off the radiation of a sun. Though more likely most life would feed off of something else, which would depend on the planet they're on, which we haven't gotten too yet.

We could also have a star, or a few stars, that are also caught in orbit around the black hole and pass by the planet with a good amount of regularity.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Diablous on June 07, 2010, 08:27:40 pm
(wasn't it called Hawking radiation?)

It is indeed.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 08:27:48 pm
Why orbit around a star when you can orbit around a dormant black hole?

As to how this could work out for life, how about have some of them 'feed' off of the radiation of the black hole (wasn't it called Hawking radiation?) just like plants feed off the radiation of a sun. Though more likely most life would feed off of something else, which would depend on the planet they're on, which we haven't gotten too yet.
Black holes? Well, I don't know, there's just so many problems with it, and I don't want this thread turning into a debate,
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: abculatter_2 on June 07, 2010, 08:31:44 pm
Why orbit around a star when you can orbit around a dormant black hole?

As to how this could work out for life, how about have some of them 'feed' off of the radiation of the black hole (wasn't it called Hawking radiation?) just like plants feed off the radiation of a sun. Though more likely most life would feed off of something else, which would depend on the planet they're on, which we haven't gotten too yet.
Black holes? Well, I don't know, there's just so many problems with it, and I don't want this thread turning into a debate,

What problems? A dormant black hole wouldn't suck the planet in if it's far enough away, and I've stated solutions to the problems with life arising.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 08:37:04 pm
Why orbit around a star when you can orbit around a dormant black hole?

As to how this could work out for life, how about have some of them 'feed' off of the radiation of the black hole (wasn't it called Hawking radiation?) just like plants feed off the radiation of a sun. Though more likely most life would feed off of something else, which would depend on the planet they're on, which we haven't gotten too yet.
Black holes? Well, I don't know, there's just so many problems with it, and I don't want this thread turning into a debate,

What problems? A dormant black hole wouldn't suck the planet in if it's far enough away, and I've stated solutions to the problems with life arising.

It would be lifeforms at the extremes of life not as we know it. Besides, theres many other problems with life arising that you haven't stated.

Like Tarran said, this thread could turn into a debate, and I don't want it to become a debate thread. Maybe I shouldn't have said exotic earlier without defining exotic.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 08:38:44 pm
Why orbit around a star when you can orbit around a dormant black hole?

As to how this could work out for life, how about have some of them 'feed' off of the radiation of the black hole (wasn't it called Hawking radiation?) just like plants feed off the radiation of a sun. Though more likely most life would feed off of something else, which would depend on the planet they're on, which we haven't gotten too yet.
Black holes? Well, I don't know, there's just so many problems with it, and I don't want this thread turning into a debate,

What problems? A dormant black hole wouldn't suck the planet in if it's far enough away, and I've stated solutions to the problems with life arising.
Well, we don't know the exact things life needs. That's the problem, it could need light for all we know. Even if life can survive without light, it's going to have a damn hard time evolving.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 08:41:23 pm
Exactly.

What I was really trying to say as far as exotic was that we could have planets with different atmospheres, having earth sized moons around a gas giant, hell, even having a F type or K type star or even a red dwarf star would change everything.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 08:43:19 pm
Now, can people please suggest a star before this turns into a discussion thread?
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Wimdit on June 07, 2010, 08:45:49 pm
Blue giant. They're pretty.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 08:48:11 pm
K5V

Alpha Centauri B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri_B) is a good example of this type.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: abculatter_2 on June 07, 2010, 08:52:37 pm
How about a star system formed from a massive nebula that orbits around a neutron star? The stars would have to be far enough away from each other that they had a sustainable orbit with room for more orbiting bodies, though I like the thought of planets occasionally jumping from one star to another when they come a little too close. Probably wouldn't happen to a planet close enough to be earth like, so life would only have to endure an occasional brightening of the night sky.

As for what star this system will be centered around, how about a blue giant or sun-like star?
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 08:56:03 pm
I'm getting tired of "Can we do this" discussions. Just pick a damn star type and get over it. ::)
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: abculatter_2 on June 07, 2010, 08:57:46 pm
I'm getting tired of "Can we do this" discussions. Just pick a damn star type and get over it. ::)

Well, then why even have this thread? Just use a random number generator.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 09:01:29 pm
I'd rather not use the RNG.

Anyway, the star was completely destroyed in the supernova. So PLEASE, vote for a normal star, no black holes or neutron stars.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 09:05:38 pm
I'm getting tired of "Can we do this" discussions. Just pick a damn star type and get over it. ::)

Well, then why even have this thread? Just use a random number generator.
I want you guys to pick, I have horrible creativity, and the RNG is unpredictable. You don't like me not accepting black holes or other stuff, don't post. Seriously, just pick an average star. I never expected you to want to have a black hole or a neutron star as our sun.

It may not have helped when I said exotic. Plus this is a protistellar cloud guys!, not a stellar remnant!, which is what black holes and neutron stars are.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 10:11:52 pm
Know what? How about the next turn?

A compromise between both suggestions, we get a green sub-giant.

And lo and behold, a sun was born, a green sub-giant. The green glow emanating throughout the gas cloud. (THE STAR STILL HAS NO NAME)

Slowly, clumps of rocks formed. asteroids have been born.


What happens now?

Spoiler: The system now. (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 10:17:23 pm
Green? Come on, have we ever seen a green star? Other than UV pictures of the sun anyway. I'll just file my complaint and leave it at that since it would depend on what wavelength we are looking at, and you've already done the art, and green is my favorite color anyhow,

Speaking of green stars, Galactic Civ II has green and purple stars which really just represent special or unusual stars.

>Continue the planet building proccess until some larger planetoids develop. This will take a few million years really.....
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 10:21:38 pm
I had to find a compromise. Looking again, that may have not been the best way. :P

Anyway, let's just say our star is special and leave it at that.

Also: got any names you want for the sun?
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 10:29:59 pm
Yea, the ones in GalCiv II were special (if being barren of planets makes it special), so I accepted that, and will here.

As for the name, trying to think of a few ideas. I was thinking along the lines of verde which is spanish for green, also similar to verdant. Tried green fire in spansih, but Fuego Verde doesn't quite come out right to me.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 10:35:17 pm
Yea, the ones in GalCiv II were special (if being barren of planets makes it special), so I accepted that, and will here.

As for the name, trying to think of a few ideas. I was thinking along the lines of verde which is spanish for green, also similar to verdant. Tried green fire in spansih, but Fuego Verde doesn't quite come out right to me.
Barren of planets? Oops. :P

Fuego Verde seems... Like it would be used for a planet or something. Try Russian, Chinese, or Japanese names.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: RandomNumberGenerator on June 07, 2010, 10:36:36 pm
Yeah, a green star is kinda weird because it should go blue - white - yellow, not blue - green -yellow, but meh. It's a game, we can have fun with it.

I vote for calling the star "Aokaze"

I also vote for making a large tropical planet almost completely covered in water (90%+) called "Tori".
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 10:40:32 pm
Yeah, a green star is kinda weird because it should go blue - white - yellow, not blue - green -yellow, but meh. It's a game, we can have fun with it.

I vote for calling the star "Aokaze"

I also vote for making a large tropical planet almost completely covered in water (90%+) called "Tori".
I know, too late to change the color. Oh well.

Name is nice, though it seems a little "off" for me. Though it's a good name.

Going a bit too fast RNG, planets don't make themselves in 500,000 years you know. :P
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 10:40:52 pm
Yea, the ones in GalCiv II were special (if being barren of planets makes it special), so I accepted that, and will here.

As for the name, trying to think of a few ideas. I was thinking along the lines of verde which is spanish for green, also similar to verdant. Tried green fire in spansih, but Fuego Verde doesn't quite come out right to me.
Barren of planets? Oops. :P

Fuego Verde seems... Like it would be used for a planet or something. Try Russian, Chinese, or Japanese names.

Or latin.

As for being barren of planets, that was just a game mechanism as it (along with purple stars) are rare. The purple special ones have the rare 20+ habitatibility planets. Earth was habitatibility 5 I think, meaning that a class 20+ would be Eden. Enough offtopic though.

Yeah, a green star is kinda weird because it should go blue - white - yellow, not blue - green -yellow, but meh. It's a game, we can have fun with it.

I vote for calling the star "Aokaze"

I also vote for making a large tropical planet almost completely covered in water (90%+) called "Tori".

Blatant GalCiv II reference there..... Not that I'll vote against it, and we have a couple of million years of planet formation to get through.

As for the star name, that one sounds ok to me.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: RandomNumberGenerator on June 07, 2010, 11:28:31 pm
Name is nice, though it seems a little "off" for me. Though it's a good name.

Yeh... I translated it into Japanese. Means "Green Wind".



Blatant GalCiv II reference there..... Not that I'll vote against it, and we have a couple of million years of planet formation to get through.


I've never actually played GalCiv II...
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 11:31:31 pm
Well, since there's not much else we can do right now but collide bodies. NEXT TURN.

And then the star was named Aokaze. It's name guaranteed to be known to all who see it.

Five hundred thousand more years pass. Many planetoids are formed. And many gas giants.


What are the most notable/major bodies in the system? (Meaning, which bodies are you going to follow, what are they like, where are they located, and what is their name)?
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 11:39:04 pm
Name is nice, though it seems a little "off" for me. Though it's a good name.

Yeh... I translated it into Japanese. Means "Green Wind".



Blatant GalCiv II reference there..... Not that I'll vote against it, and we have a couple of million years of planet formation to get through.


I've never actually played GalCiv II...

In GalCiv II, there is a race called the Torians and their homeworld is Toria or Tori, forget exactly. Anyways, I think the name you made for the star is a good one.

What type of star is this one most similar to? Just asking for a reference point, thats all.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: maxicaxi on June 07, 2010, 11:42:32 pm
tori means bird in Japanese!

no one is referencing anyone here!

Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 07, 2010, 11:45:10 pm
I don't know what to reference it to. It's a middle point between a blue giant and our sun (In correct colors it should be white). It's hotter than our sun (x4 as hot) and three times as large. It's quite stable, half as many solar flares per day as our sun.

Also, just thought I'd say this: You can have dwarf stars, like brown dwarfs. Though they may cause some problems.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: smjjames on June 07, 2010, 11:51:58 pm
tori means bird in Japanese!

no one is referencing anyone here!

Oh, cool, didn't know that. They were an amphibian race though.

@Tarran: So something like an F class I guess.

As for planets, lets form a gas giant that is a bit bigger than Jupiter in the habitable zone of the star (or one thats already there) and give it protomoons (at least one or more) that are about the size of earth, among other smaller sized protomoons.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 08, 2010, 01:30:55 am
Slowly, the gas clumped together to form a gas giant! it orbits the habitable zone, and pulls in a large amount of planetoids, though most asteroids are pulled into the gas giant before they can settle in a ring. It has two ear-... Well, one earth sized moon. the second one was knocked by a planetoid further out, to the cold end of the habitable zone. Well, you did expect that to happen right?

The moon is tidally locked to the gas giant. It has huge amounts of volcanic activity due to the pull of the gas giant.

The planet is being bombarded heavily by asteroids. It has traces of an atmosphere. It has a small planetary ring. It has basic plate tectonics.


What now, planet builders?

Spoiler: Da system (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Virex on June 08, 2010, 05:19:58 pm
Let's see, on my wishlist:


Trojans near the Lagrange points of our gas giant and a thin ring of leftovers from the moon that got slung out.
Several smaller inner planets. They'd probably be boiling hot since they're quite close to the star and that one's hot as well.
Outer asteroid belt as a source of asteroids and comets on the edges of the drawn system.
A gas-'giant' much smaller then the current one but still larger then the rocky planet, positioned between said asteroid belt and the habitable planet. It's tilted 90 degrees, like Uranus and is tidal locked with a single moon that's about 90% of earth's diameter and very frigid
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Criptfeind on June 08, 2010, 10:23:43 pm
I am going to make a suggestion using the whole of my scientific knowledge*: Lets have something like volcanoes erupt upon the two planets to fill them with atmosphere.

*I know nothing.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 08, 2010, 10:41:16 pm
I am going to make a suggestion using the whole of my scientific knowledge*: Lets have something like volcanoes erupt upon the two planets to fill them with atmosphere.

*I know nothing.
Which two planets?

Also: turn up when I feel like it.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 09, 2010, 12:49:03 am
Slowly, the gas giant pulled Trojans in. Forever enslaved to the giant's gravity.

Out of the clouds, several planets. The inner one is eternally molten, twice as large as Mercury. The next is akin to Mercury. The third is seven times as large as the earth, it's large gravity pulls in many asteroids, it is quickly enveloped in clouds of greenhouse gasses. Then a forth one, right between the third planet and the gas giant, it is ripped apart by the alternating gravity, leaving a cluster of molten pieces.

Slowly, the gas giant flings many asteroids into a large belt at the edge of the system.

Then, a small gas (ice) "giant" is created with a moon, though the gravitational pull of Aokaze overwhelms the small gravity of the gas (ice) giant, and pulls the moon into orbit of the cold planet, slinging the planet slightly closer to Aokaze. The moon is half the size of the cold planet.

Slowly, the cold planet solidifies.


NAMES ARE NEEDED FOR A LOT OF PLANETS BOYS. GET TACTICAL, MARINES CREATIVE, PLAYERS!
What now?

Spoiler: Our system (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: RandomNumberGenerator on June 09, 2010, 03:40:24 pm
The rock-planet should become another one of the gas giant's moons.
Title: Re: The Solar System
Post by: Tarran on June 09, 2010, 04:21:12 pm
The rock-planet should become another one of the gas giant's moons.
Is that a question or a action?