Post by: webadict on August 09, 2010, 07:19:27 am
Bring Your Own Role Mafia. Basically, you pick the name of your role, and I pick how it acts and interacts with other roles. Any name shall do, and if it is obscure, a link to a data source might help. ...But please not TOO obscure.That's right. Join now and play a swell game o' mafia!
This is otherwise known as U-Pick. I shall do my best to insure playability and avoid broken games.
Therefore, let's play!
As for rules:
PMing: Disallowed (Mafia ONLY)
Hammering: Semi-Allowed (Hammer ends Day, Days are timed [72 Hour Days, 24 Hour Nights, Weekends do not count in that])
Quoting Mod: ALWAYS Disallowed
Along with never under- or over-estimating your own significance.
AND PLAY TO WIN!
And, send your role in when you sign up! Please provide a Wikipedia link (NO VIDEOS/50-PAGE ESSAYS), if obscure. Or a description, if you're feeling extra keen that day.
Players:
Pandarsenic - Currently Missing
Jokerman-EXE
TheBroodyMoods
Toaster - Currently Missing
ToonyMan
Quote
GIR
As an annoying robot built with plenty of flaws, your main goal is rather unknown. You are built to serve, but you are built in such poor fashion as to do a shoddy job of it. But, luckily, you are built with destructive weapons and you're a robot. So doom da-doom-doom doom.
(Day) Assist [target] [player]: You can hinder a player by giving them fake information about another player.
(Night) Annoy [target]: You stop a player from being able to not only hear but go anywhere for the Night.
(Auto) What's The G Stand For?: Your actions have a 50% chance to do something else entirely.
(1-Use) Disguise: You dress up in a dog suit and will remain that way for 2 phases afterward (2 Days or 2 Nights, depending when it is used.) This will confuse anyone wanting your role name or any other part (You will be look town), including on death. This action cannot fail.
(X-Action) Scream: You emit a peircing scream for no reason whatsoever. This action may be used with another action.
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Rorschach
Crazy, masked vigilante, out to make a mark on the world. With a grappling hook.
(Night) Kill [target]: You can render a person incapable of living with your incredible strength.
(Night) Confuse [target]: You can psyche out a player with a psychiatrist-like recanting of what they REALLY want. The player will target a random person.
(Day) Grappling Hook [target]: If a player leaves the scene, you may follow them and bring them back... if they're alive.
(Auto) Illegal: Masked vigilantes are bad. Killing innocent people is worse. Both at once is the worst. Your chance to kill someone is 1 / (# of Town you've killed + 2)
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Robert Fulton
Inventor and engineer, you are. You developed the steamboat. Props, yo. Congratulations on using the steam engine and putting it on a boat.
(Night) Upgrade [target]: You may upgrade a random ability of a player.
(Day) Investigate [target]: You may investigate a dead player to build a device based on their role. It is given to a random player, including you.
(Auto) Unsuccessful Experiments: You have a certain percent to die after using your first ability that increases each time you use an ability.
(Auto) Go Down With The Sub: You can send one last message to the board after you die.
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Anglerfish
If fish can dream, they have nightmares of you, luring them from their safe homes and devouring them. You are very distracting and ridiculously scary, which will hopefully lead to your success in the mafia.
(Day) Crunch [target]: You can crunch up the bones of a dead player you've Devoured to make the body impossible to identify and removing them from your stomach. However, people will hear a crunching noise coming from your direction.
(Night, Mafiakill) Devour [target]: Eats and removes the body of the player you kill, so that the player's identity will not be revealed until you die. As well, players may not target those dead players. You are told what role the player you killed was.
(Auto) Lure: If a player targets you, they may not be roleblocked or redirected.
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Ra, God of Sun
You control Night and Day. Well, you control the sun, which controls Night and Day, so kinda in an indirect way.
(1-Use) Solar Reset: The Mandjet makes a double shift, skipping the next Night Phase.
(1-Use) Solar Skip: The Mesektet comes early, dragging the sun back before it can show its face. The next Day Phase is skipped.
(1-Use) Resurrection: You can resurrect a dead player once you have used both of your Solar powers.
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Old Spice Guy
"The man that this man smells like."
(Night) Odorize [target]: You can attach a scent to a player and find who he targeted last Night.
(Auto) Deordorized: You are untrackable because of how good you smell like.
(Night, 1-Use) Old Spice Man: You can see who smells like you after the Night. Surely, these people acted on you or someone that acted on someone that smells like you (from actioning you or someone that smells like you.)
Quote
TVTrope: Chest Burster
BLARGH! You're not even a real role, since you're not really a physical concept, but an idea OF a concept created from an event.
(Day) CHEST BURST!: You can burst from all the people's chests that you have currently impregnated, killing them. This ability activates on death as well.
(Night) Plant Seed [target]: You... uh... yeah.
(Auto) Inconceivable: Since you are not real, any part of your role is impossible to imagine and cannot be revealed except on death.
(Auto) Everyone's Dead: You win as long as no one else is alive. Your living status is unnecessary.
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Erik
You are the Phantom of the Opera, hiding away in an Opera House with a mask to disguise your face. You have a multitude of skills, but without your mask, you will almost certainly be killed. Your architectual knowledge will be necessary.
(Night) Hide: Having made your current surroundings, you can move in and out of secret passages that no one else knows.
(Night) Kidnap [target]: You may remove a player from the game, hiding them away in a secret location. You may release them at any time. You cannot kidnap more than one person at a time. This player may action you at any time, even if you are Hiding. The player will not be told who or what has captured them.
(Auto) Mask Removal: If your mask is removed, the player that removed your mask can reveal it to the Thread, showing your alignment to everyone. However, your mask can only be removed by being able to reach you while you are hiding.
(1-Use) Phantom of the Opera: You show everyone how truly beautiful you are. Everyone will be told you are town. If your mask has been removed, this action will fail.
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Antoine Dodson
Umm... You're not sure why you're here right now instead of hiding your children, wife, family, town, dog, toys, or car.
(Night) Hide Other [target]: You hide the person from harm, making them unable to act or be acted on.
(Auto) They Rapin' E'erybody!: If someone visits you in the Night, you will assume that person is trying to get you, causing you to stop your action. You will quickly identify them, though.
(1-Use) Chase Down [target]: You can choose one of the people that actioned you and learn what team they're on.
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Baby Cuddles
You are part of the Unicorn cult. You are blue with pink hair. You have no powers.
Post by: Ottofar on August 09, 2010, 02:33:22 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2010, 03:05:02 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 09, 2010, 04:07:18 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 09, 2010, 06:42:19 pm
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2010, 06:45:27 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 09, 2010, 06:47:28 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 09, 2010, 06:50:23 pm
Ah, come on guys! Four sign-ups and only two roles!
Fixed.
Post by: Org on August 09, 2010, 06:52:27 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2010, 07:00:08 pm
Woah, Pandar changed his avatar. I don't think that has happened since I joined.
IS IT NOT FABULOUS!?
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2010, 09:39:56 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 09, 2010, 11:35:39 pm
But yes. I think I did.
Post by: Criptfeind on August 09, 2010, 11:45:45 pm
Also I will in.
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2010, 11:56:50 pm
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 10, 2010, 12:47:29 am
Post by: webadict on August 10, 2010, 09:51:44 am
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 10, 2010, 02:33:52 pm
Joker, is the white background on your guy new? I thought it was transparent.
Yeah, I think it changed when I added the glasses.
Post by: Ottofar on August 10, 2010, 02:37:27 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 10, 2010, 02:43:31 pm
Post by: Zai on August 10, 2010, 04:27:25 pm
I find the fact that this has only seven players in thus far slightly incredible.I don't think I'll have time for more than 1 game.
BUT WHAT THE HELL. Possibly in.
Post by: Vector on August 11, 2010, 09:03:05 pm
Post by: ExKirby on August 12, 2010, 06:34:30 am
Post by: webadict on August 12, 2010, 07:02:53 am
Spoiler Spec, please.No.
Post by: Eduren on August 16, 2010, 04:26:07 pm
Post by: webadict on August 16, 2010, 06:41:29 pm
Post by: Vector on August 16, 2010, 06:59:12 pm
I can start with one more person if I have to.
Wait a little while longer. Once BMXIII ends, you should be able to sweep players from there.
Post by: webadict on August 16, 2010, 07:19:01 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 16, 2010, 10:36:41 pm
Also, just PM the roles to you, or email 'em?
Post by: Vector on August 16, 2010, 10:38:42 pm
Could I get IN, I'm new but I've got a lot of spirit... Like... Rudy (not my role).
Also, just PM the roles to you, or email 'em?
Dammit. Now I really do think I should join.
Okay, in. We all know Pandar's won't ever start, anyway.
Post by: Toaster on August 16, 2010, 10:46:13 pm
I'll send a role shortly.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 16, 2010, 10:49:43 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 16, 2010, 10:50:30 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 16, 2010, 10:53:00 pm
Messed up, man.
Post by: Vector on August 16, 2010, 10:54:53 pm
Teeheeheeheehee.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 16, 2010, 10:59:38 pm
So it stagnates for a week, you mention it in the trope mafia thread, and you've got six players in seven hours.
Messed up, man.
Clearly that's a coincidence ! *cough*
Post by: Vector on August 16, 2010, 11:01:27 pm
Post by: webadict on August 17, 2010, 10:05:17 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 19, 2010, 03:37:25 pm
Post by: webadict on August 19, 2010, 03:51:04 pm
Because I could really care less if you joined. I've only got half the roles done, and if you send in your role now I can incorporate it into my... SCHEMES!
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 19, 2010, 06:05:43 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 19, 2010, 06:18:40 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 19, 2010, 06:20:11 pm
This guy started a bunch.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 19, 2010, 06:23:09 pm
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1088/apenguin54.png)
This guy started a bunch.
Thus, this guy is ?
Post by: Eduren on August 19, 2010, 06:25:34 pm
He started it like a year ago, and a lot of people have yet to change their pictures since.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 19, 2010, 06:27:16 pm
His name is inaluct.
He started it like a year ago, and a lot of people have yet to change their pictures since.
T.Y all for the infos. I'll sleep a little less dumb tonight
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on August 19, 2010, 06:46:59 pm
His name is inaluct.Including me, I must say I've grown attached to mine.
He started it like a year ago, and a lot of people have yet to change their pictures since.
Post by: webadict on August 19, 2010, 08:04:50 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 19, 2010, 08:09:22 pm
>:3
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 19, 2010, 08:11:26 pm
Post by: Vector on August 19, 2010, 08:17:23 pm
Always tought you looked like Vincent Valentine, Panda.
Vincent Valentine... in a penguin suit... shooting unicorns... in front of a rainbow flag? ._.;;
Hot damn, man.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 19, 2010, 08:22:11 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 19, 2010, 08:48:11 pm
Post by: Zai on August 19, 2010, 09:51:02 pm
I can't read any discussion of my avatar without cracking up ever since I made it FABULOUS.Fixed that for you.
The penguins were neat. They're a fad from early 2009.
Post by: webadict on August 19, 2010, 09:53:18 pm
They're a display of your seniority!I can't read any discussion of my avatar without cracking up ever since I made it FABULOUS.Fixed that for you.
The penguins were neat. They're a fad from early 2009.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 19, 2010, 10:04:56 pm
Look whose talking ELMOI can't read any discussion of my avatar without cracking up ever since I made it FABULOUS.Fixed that for you.
The penguins were neat. They're a fad from early 2009.
Post by: Eduren on August 19, 2010, 10:09:14 pm
OH SNAP!Look whose talking ELMOI can't read any discussion of my avatar without cracking up ever since I made it FABULOUS.Fixed that for you.
The penguins were neat. They're a fad from early 2009.
Post by: Zai on August 19, 2010, 10:24:06 pm
...You're acting like I was saying the penguins are bad. They're better now than they were when the fad was active, as a bunch of lower-forum people had them then. Not so many remain in the wild today.Look whose talking ELMOI can't read any discussion of my avatar without cracking up ever since I made it FABULOUS.Fixed that for you.
The penguins were neat. They're a fad from early 2009.
Anyways, I got rid of Elmo. The only thing that remains is my personal text underneath that I put there when I changed avatars, referencing my old Elmo av. It was my 2nd (and 3rd if you count Terminator Elmo) avatar. My current one is my 6th or 7th. I've had...somewhere between 8 and 10 avs (I'm thinking 9) on Bay 12 in my 2 years being here, though 3 were just variants of my other Super Robot Taisen avatars.
But that's pretty irrelevant.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 19, 2010, 10:24:35 pm
Post by: Zai on August 19, 2010, 10:29:26 pm
Look whose OFFENDEDWHO'S THAT?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 19, 2010, 10:33:56 pm
Post by: Zai on August 19, 2010, 10:37:02 pm
I just now sent my role in. IS THAT OKAY
Post by: Vector on August 19, 2010, 10:40:24 pm
Just 4 more! :D
Post by: Zai on August 19, 2010, 11:08:54 pm
Oh my god 15 ._.I actually said I'd possibly be in-ing over a week ago. I only just now sent in my role.
Just 4 more! :D
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 20, 2010, 12:38:52 am
Post by: Vector on August 20, 2010, 12:52:01 am
...So can I have a masterchief penguin?
If you make one.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 20, 2010, 12:56:11 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 20, 2010, 01:30:34 am
Making it yourself is funnier anyway.
But that takes woooooooooooork
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 20, 2010, 01:32:20 am
Making it yourself is funnier anyway.
But that takes woooooooooooork
Yeaaahhhh
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 20, 2010, 01:48:19 am
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 20, 2010, 02:03:04 am
A true Penguin Avatar must be lovingly, fabulously crafted by the forumite who will wear it.
^ that.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 20, 2010, 02:08:32 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 20, 2010, 02:09:56 am
Post by: Vector on August 20, 2010, 02:11:40 am
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 20, 2010, 02:12:08 am
That is amazing, wow.
Really?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 20, 2010, 02:40:02 am
Yes.That is amazing, wow.
Really?
Post by: Mr.Person on August 20, 2010, 03:15:04 am
Post by: Solifuge on August 20, 2010, 03:50:15 am
Definitely keeping tabs on it though!
Post by: webadict on August 20, 2010, 07:53:13 am
A true Penguin Avatar must be lovingly, fabulously crafted by the forumite who will wear it.Mine was originally made by me, but then my sister was like, "Aw no, you be needin' costumes."
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 20, 2010, 12:00:30 pm
I think I may have to photoshop myself a penguin made of food.
then my sister was like, "Aw no, you be needin' costumes."
I present to you the two most correct statements I've read all day.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 20, 2010, 06:17:27 pm
Yes.That is amazing, wow.
Really?
When I first saw it I didn't really get what it was, it just looked like he had a towel on his head or something.
Then I saw it for what it was, and yes, it is hilarious and awesome.
Post by: webadict on August 21, 2010, 06:43:05 pm
A quick [insert method of viewing] around let's you know that you've been placed inside of a giant house. It is big. Very big. Or maybe you're just really small. It's all relative anyway.
You find a note, written on the wall in [insert internal liquid here] saying, "We're gonna kill all o' ye." You cringe. If you can. As proof of this, you find a man, with a simple name tag that states, "Hi, My Name Is Example."
Looks like someone made an example out of him.
You search his pockets, seeing as how he's dead and looting people is A-Okay. You come across a card labeled "Role." It reads as follows:
Quote
Example
You are an example, to show how the actions are set up.
(Day) Day Ability [target]: You can use this ability during the Day Phase on the target.
(Night) Night Ability: This is a night ability you use on yourself.
(1-Use) 1-Use Ability [target]: This ability has one use, during either the Day or Night on the target.
(Auto) Automatic Ability: This ability is used automatically when applicable and does not use your "One Action Per Day Or Night Phase.".
(X-Action) X-Ability [target]: This ability can be used any time any number of times on a target and does not use your "One Action Per Day Or Night Phase."
Hmm... An interesting predicament. Seems you'll have to find these ne'er-do-wells. You pulls out a [insert smoking device] and get to your detective work.
Vote Count
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE -
Criptfeind -
Spartan117 -
Ottofar -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
Toaster -
IronyOwl -
Eduren -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - Pandarsenic, Org, Lonewolf I, Jokerman-EXE, Criptfeind, Spartan117, Ottofar, TheBroodyMoods, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Vector, Toaster, IronyOwl, Eduren, ToonyMan, Zai,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central.
Day Starts Now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 21, 2010, 06:47:26 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 06:52:07 pm
Okay mafia, I have a proposition. I want you to night kill me, can you do that? Yes mafia, please night kill me. It would be most appreciated.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 21, 2010, 06:54:40 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 06:55:30 pm
Why would you want to be nightkilled, ToonyMan?WIFOM for the mafia, also remember mafia, night kill me.
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 08:14:51 pm
Org, what the hell is your problem?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 08:21:28 pm
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 08:26:57 pm
Zai will probably try to kill me tonight.If only I could, O' Scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 08:27:42 pm
I know you are already.Zai will probably try to kill me tonight.If only I could, O' Scum.
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 08:29:20 pm
Are what? Gonna play some games? Fuck yeah, you'd be right.I know you are already.Zai will probably try to kill me tonight.If only I could, O' Scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 08:32:30 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 21, 2010, 08:43:16 pm
Let that nervousness settle in, you're going to need it when the noose hangs your neck.Nooses can't hang people's necks, they can just be used to. Roleclaiming already?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 08:44:26 pm
I don't think we should role-claim yet, but remember mafia, night kill me tonight.Let that nervousness settle in, you're going to need it when the noose hangs your neck.Nooses can't hang people's necks, they can just be used to. Roleclaiming already?
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 21, 2010, 09:13:12 pm
So, what are your thoughts, Zai?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 21, 2010, 09:20:33 pm
Post by: Vector on August 21, 2010, 10:02:55 pm
Vector, why am I randomvoting you BEFORE checking my role PM?
Probably because you want to see if I jump, which is good for you whether you're town or scum.
What are your crimes, Vector ? What are they ?
Being beautiful, brilliant, and wise.
IronyOwl, why have you shown up with
Let that nervousness settle in, you're going to need it when the noose hangs your neck.Nooses can't hang people's necks, they can just be used to. Roleclaiming already?
as your sole contribution? Nothing to say about the current situation? No vote?
That's passiveness in a box, doodabuddy.
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 10:12:30 pm
Unvote.Thoughts on what? At the moment, I'm thinking how great a game Half Life 2 is after replaying a few chapters.
So, what are your thoughts, Zai?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 21, 2010, 10:28:59 pm
What are your crimes, Vector ? What are they ?
Being beautiful, brilliant, and wise.
God I've missed you.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 21, 2010, 10:47:17 pm
Unvote.Thoughts on what? At the moment, I'm thinking how great a game Half Life 2 is after replaying a few chapters.
So, what are your thoughts, Zai?
...Unvote.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 21, 2010, 10:53:23 pm
You've shown your usefulness.Unvote.Thoughts on what? At the moment, I'm thinking how great a game Half Life 2 is after replaying a few chapters.
So, what are your thoughts, Zai?
...Unvote.
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 11:12:17 pm
Why, scum? You provided no reason for unvoting, and did not even switch your vote to someone else.Unvote.Thoughts on what? At the moment, I'm thinking how great a game Half Life 2 is after replaying a few chapters.
So, what are your thoughts, Zai?
...Unvote.
Spartan 117 is scum, everybody.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 21, 2010, 11:14:03 pm
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 11:20:23 pm
Scum hate Half Life!A terrible defense from terrible scum.
Post by: Org on August 21, 2010, 11:20:28 pm
Zai.
Post by: Zai on August 21, 2010, 11:22:20 pm
Zai.What for, o' coddled princess?
Post by: Org on August 21, 2010, 11:23:36 pm
You dont smell as nice.Zai.What for, o' coddled princess?
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 12:57:21 am
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 01:55:49 am
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 05:56:29 am
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 22, 2010, 06:05:52 am
MysteriousBluePuppet. What's your game?
[Mohawk]World of Warcraft[/Mohawk]
Yeah that ain't a good one.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 06:07:08 am
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Pandarsenic - ToonyMan,
Org -
Lonewolf I - TheBroodyMoods,
Jokerman-EXE -
Criptfeind -
Spartan117 - Zai,
Ottofar -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Ottofar,
Vector - Pandarsenic, Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Toaster -
IronyOwl - Vector,
Eduren -
ToonyMan -
Zai - Org,
Not Voting - Lonewolf I, Jokerman-EXE, Criptfeind, Toaster, IronyOwl, Eduren, Spartan117,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central.
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 06:17:38 am
MysteriousBluePuppet. What's your game?
[Mohawk]World of Warcraft[/Mohawk]
Yeah that ain't a good one.
I knew I had heard that phrase somewhere.
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 06:23:12 am
Vote Org.
Is it scum Org time?
Post by: Org on August 22, 2010, 10:07:40 am
UnvoteWut.
Vote Org.
Is it scum Org time?
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 22, 2010, 12:34:05 pm
lonewolf, how you doing man? What are your thoughts on the matters at hand?
I am fantasmically delicious.
Minor bandwagon on Vector could just be a knee-jerk reaction from the veterans who are happy to see her.
ToonyMan's a nut, which is par for the course, but it's reasonable to suspect that he wants himself lynched. Again.
Jester?
Hey, that's my game too, at the moment. (Darkspear - Horde - Lvl 21 Blood Elf Priest - Sciuridae)MysteriousBluePuppet. What's your game?
[Mohawk]World of Warcraft[/Mohawk]
Yeah that ain't a good one.
Pandar is buddying. [/ridiculous example to demonstrate the superfluousness of accusing buddying for compliments]What are your crimes, Vector ? What are they ?
Being beautiful, brilliant, and wise.
God I've missed you.
Eduren - If a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, how would the partridge in a pear tree cross the road?
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 12:49:53 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Zai on August 22, 2010, 01:51:05 pm
How about a votecount?Why? The game only just started, scum. Are you that lazy that you can't look to see who's voting who at this non-confusing (vote-wise anyway) stage of the game?
Ottofar and Spartan are scumteam, everybody.
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 02:12:49 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 22, 2010, 02:49:27 pm
IronyOwl, why have you shown up withLet that nervousness settle in, you're going to need it when the noose hangs your neck.Nooses can't hang people's necks, they can just be used to. Roleclaiming already?
as your sole contribution? Nothing to say about the current situation? No vote?
That's passiveness in a box, doodabuddy.
Sorry, meant to post more but got distracted. That said, we do need to get this moving.
Org, are you OMGUSing Zai? I don't see a question for him, from you or anyone else, so it can't really be a pressure vote. What is your vote trying to accomplish?
ToonyMan, you're not going to act strange and refuse to scumhunt on the notion that your role is doing all the work, are you? You've posted your repeated desire to be killed, but I get the feeling this could be a wonderful excuse to be just as upset as any of us that it's Day 4 and you're alive and not doing anything.
Pandarsenic, you've done nothing but hug Vector. Do you think it more likely that Zai is scum trying to cast suspicion/organize a lynch, Spartan117 is scum pretending to scumhunt, or something else?
Phone. And semi-hammers.I don't get it.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 03:38:51 pm
15 people so 3 scum right? Zai and Lonewolf right now seems pretty nice for now.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 06:04:57 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 06:13:20 pm
I don't want to be lynched I want to be night-killed. Otherwise there's no point because it has to be scum that kill me. Not some majority vote.
15 people so 3 scum right? Zai and Lonewolf right now seems pretty nice for now.
Toonyman, this sentiment seems to me to be overtly chaotic and misleading. If you want to be night killed, and aren't just trying to discourage night kills, you'd be leading scum hunts, organizing people and casting suspicion on everyone that's posted or hasn't.
"Don't lynch me guys, I want to get Night killed," seems like some sort of flimflam of epic proportions, that gives you a hundred and one options for avoiding suspicion later if we buy it now.
That seems very, very scummy to me. Or at very least you're attracting a lot of suspicion on yourself so that scum can use you as a scapegoat later on.
I don't like that at all.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 06:49:15 pm
I'm not going to do nothing while having this request, it's a request, that's it. I can't make decisions for other people, only convince them.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 07:09:32 pm
Stop being a passive moron and vote me if it's so scummy then.
Why, that's just hurtful
Unvote.
Well, Toonyman it is than, for his O' so eloquent manipulations of the English language.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 07:13:59 pm
Post by: Org on August 22, 2010, 07:25:26 pm
Unvote.
Bandwagon harder Spartan.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 07:43:09 pm
Only doing things when people tell you to is being even worse of a pacifist, I hope you become more aggressive soon or you're going to get yourself lynched.
I feel my concerns about your "Requests" are totally legitimate, and you've nothing to offer in return except to call me a moron and go on to say go ahead and vote to lynch you. Its hardly a way to discourage me, especially in seeing that you offered nothing in the way of an alternative.
It's still a long day yet.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 07:52:53 pm
Jegus. It is a reaction vote.
Unvote.
Bandwagon harder Spartan.
I'm not bandwagoning, I'm casting a vote for a suspicious person.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 07:56:18 pm
Post by: Org on August 22, 2010, 08:35:17 pm
You said this.
LAWL I IS SUZPISHOUS.
VOTE ORG. NO OTHER REASONS.
Post by: Eduren on August 22, 2010, 08:37:37 pm
Eduren - If a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, how would the partridge in a pear tree cross the road?No soap, radio!
Post by: Zai on August 22, 2010, 09:10:46 pm
That's funny. You should be voting for yourself, scum.Jegus. It is a reaction vote.
Unvote.
Bandwagon harder Spartan.
I'm not bandwagoning, I'm casting a vote for a suspicious person.
Org is ACTUALLY RIGHT. Take a look at your post where you voted Org:
I'm also suspicious of Org. We don't need an Orgscum, especially in a BYOR.Now take a look at what this followed:
Unvote
Vote Org.
Is it scum Org time?
Org, are you OMGUSing Zai? I don't see a question for him, from you or anyone else, so it can't really be a pressure vote. What is your vote trying to accomplish?
This makes you the third person to vote Org, not just the second! However, you were the second of the three to vote without real reasoning. Let me just remind you again of what you said:
hey gaiz, org is scum lol. we dun need org as scum especially in a byorSo you're not giving any evidence of his scummitude, you just say "hey we don't need Org to be scum in this game." So just the possibility of Org being scum (which, lest you forget, it is possible for EVERYONE to be scum) is enough to lynch him without any real reason? I don't buy that you're that stupid.
And then, when Org points you out on this in his own special way, you accuse him of OMGUSing, despite him having a legitimate reason to vote you. Way to fail scum forever, punk.
Spartan's failscum, everybody.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 10:12:51 pm
Unvote.
So, Toaster, what do you think I am?
Post by: Zai on August 22, 2010, 10:24:27 pm
I guess I might as well come out with it, I voted Org because I wanted to check for tells from others. You called me out quickly, so it didn't work as well as I had hoped for.Yeah, yeah, sure you did. Because bandwagoning will totally get reliable scumtells from other people. All it does is make yourself look scummier, scumface.
toaster i m goin 2 ask about myself rather than u or any1 else bcuz i want more opinyuns aboot hao badly i m failing mi scum teamYeah, yeah, asking questions about yourself will TOTALLY get a tell from him. (That's sarcasm by the way) Asking questions like that will not get scumtells from him. You're obviously just asking for opinions about how badly you're failing your scum team. What makes this particularly egregious is that you had just lied that you did something to check for tells, and then you go and do this.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 22, 2010, 10:26:34 pm
TheBroodyMoods, I... I... I can't stand your avatar face.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 10:27:12 pm
UnvoteThat's an equally good reason.
TheBroodyMoods, I... I... I can't stand your avatar face.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 10:30:34 pm
Unvote
TheBroodyMoods, I... I... I can't stand your avatar face.
Yeah, well... uh, your mom Je-jerk face. >_>/<_<
No, but seriously. I'm not changing it. Unless you change yours.
Quote from: Anton Chigurh
Call it. Just call it.
Post by: Toaster on August 22, 2010, 10:32:54 pm
lonewolf, how you doing man? What are your thoughts on the matters at hand?
1. Buddying
2. A non question, really. A specific question to get in his head is the thing to do here. All you're doing is showing up.
What? You're not going to say anything about me chainsaw defending Vector?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Oh, it's a joke? I thought it was you attempting to draw attention from Spartan on to yourself. Why would you do that?
Phone. And semi-hammers.
Do you honestly think someone would get near 8 votes without it being obvious?
Warning - while you were typing 4 new replies...
I guess I might as well come out with it, I voted Org because I wanted to check for tells from others.
(Bullshit)
Quote
You called me out quickly, so it didn't work as well as I had hoped for.
Unvote.
So, Toaster, what do you think I am?
Extremely suspicious. Obviously new at this. Being concerned about your image is scummy.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 10:55:14 pm
You say I'm asking the wrong questions? Maybe I am, but I was just trying to get some tells and do some good before I got lynched for my apparent obvious scumness.
And if you really want to convince people I'm somehow a scummy scumface(nice insult there by the way), maybe you should stop altering those quotes to make me sound like an idiot. And bandwagoning may not have done wonders for my reputability, but I stand by my reasoning.
And Toaster, I have nothing more to say. You called bullshit on me and answered my question, there's nothing I can really respond to. I appear to be digging my own grave, so I'll just keep scumhunting while I can still help the town.
Unvote.
Who do you think will be lynched, and who do you think will be mafiakilled Jokerman-EXE?
Post by: Ottofar on August 22, 2010, 11:02:32 pm
Vote Spartan, how many games have you played?
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 11:02:52 pm
lonewolf, how you doing man? What are your thoughts on the matters at hand?
1. Buddying
2. A non question, really. A specific question to get in his head is the thing to do here. All you're doing is showing up.
Non-question? Maybe. Buddying? I fail to see that, short of being polite.
We may be scum hunting, sir, but there is no need to be rude. If we can't see eye to eye on that you leave me little choice, sir:
Spoiler: 10 rounds, the king's rules. (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 22, 2010, 11:03:42 pm
Clearly off the charts.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 11:05:30 pm
Well now. Unvote Org
Vote Spartan, how many games have you played?
This, and two others running right now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 22, 2010, 11:14:07 pm
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 11:18:08 pm
Broody, who do you want lynched?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 22, 2010, 11:22:08 pm
Who do you think will be lynched, and who do you think will be mafiakilled Jokerman-EXE?
Well, Spartan, I think you'll be lynched today. You're votehopping, bandwagoning just a touch, and generally acting very jumpy. Real bad signs, dude. It's D1 and I'm what, your fifth vote?
As to who's mafiakilled, I'd bet an experienced player. Pandarsenic, Toony, Zai, maybe Toaster or myself. It's hard to tell.
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2010, 11:23:38 pm
Unvote Vector'
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
Okay. I'm not responding to this topic tonight, in general, mostly because I can't get my thoughts together, you guys are talking a hell of a lot,
and also because I'm reading Watchmen fanfic ohgod
But seriously? Seriously, Pandarsenic? I tried to pull that in BM I. It was scummy then, and it's scummy now.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 11:26:07 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 11:26:51 pm
and also because I'm reading Watchmen fanfic ohgodVector has been modkilled!
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 22, 2010, 11:28:38 pm
and also because I'm reading Watchmen fanfic ohgodVector has been modkilled!
What?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 11:29:43 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 11:30:25 pm
Joke has been playerkilled...and also because I'm reading Watchmen fanfic ohgodVector has been modkilled!
What?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 22, 2010, 11:32:16 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 11:37:06 pm
Unvote Vector'If you have an specific reason I look scummy, I'd love to see it.
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
Broody, who do you want lynched?
Preferably? Scum. My vote is currently on toonyman, for scumminess that, from what I hear echoed in the thread, is typically emanating from toonyman no matter what side he is on. Still looks scummy to me, as I expressed here:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'd ask you the same, but with how you're currently vote hopping, I think it's anyone who isn't you, which is scummy to me.
Both, myself and Spartan, have about the same level of experience in playing the game, the difference is I am not dodging criticism by asking other people to answer questions for me.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 22, 2010, 11:39:31 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 22, 2010, 11:44:05 pm
I don't want to be lynched I want to be night-killed. Otherwise there's no point because it has to be scum that kill me. Not some majority vote.That doesn't answer my question.
I'm not going to do nothing while having this request, it's a request, that's it. I can't make decisions for other people, only convince them.This does, except you seem to just be interjecting snide comments here and there. It's better than nothing, certainly, but pointing things out now and then isn't really the same as actual scum hunting, especially since the comments you're pointing to are from other people's discussions.
Jegus. It is a reaction vote.Then why did you leave it on after you got his reaction, then take it off when I mentioned it but before he had any further reaction to it?
Unvote Vector'Cool way to get two players to call each other scum. Makes it look like you're contributing, too.
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
The best part, of course, is that it implies you have opinions without needing to mention them. Perhaps some hint as to why you think either is scummy could help with their explanation of why they're not?
Spoiler: Off-Topic: BroodyMoods Avatar (click to show/hide)
Also new replies EVERYWHERE.
Post by: Toaster on August 22, 2010, 11:48:51 pm
But, Toaster, it's so very punchable!
Clearly off the charts.
Are you looking for a response from me? If so, I have no idea what the heck you're talking about. How about I just ask you something?
You (apparently) random voted Broody, with a non-reason. He's posted since then, and you have as well, but you neither removed your vote nor actually asked him anything. Do you think Broody is scummy? If so, why? If not, why are you still voting him?
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 22, 2010, 11:54:05 pm
I don't understand what you mean by dodging criticism? Can you explain?
Yes:
Okay.In response to:
Broody, who do you want lynched?
Unvote Vector'
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
So, Toaster, what do you think I am?
You're not really defending yourself, nor really scum hunting. You asking other people to answer questions for you (out sourcing your own defense, if you will). Though your Jokerman vote showed improvement.
Spoiler: Off-Topic: BroodyMoods Avatar (click to show/hide)
"I can't call it for you... it wouldn't be fair."
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 22, 2010, 11:55:34 pm
But, Toaster, it's so very punchable!
Clearly off the charts.
Are you looking for a response from me? If so, I have no idea what the heck you're talking about. How about I just ask you something?
You (apparently) random voted Broody, with a non-reason. He's posted since then, and you have as well, but you neither removed your vote nor actually asked him anything. Do you think Broody is scummy? If so, why? If not, why are you still voting him?
i was not really , in fact, simply reaffirming that i find is avatar displeasing. But really i don't know who it is, so it's a bit distressing. If you or him could help me and give em the reference i'd be happy.
As for the vote, right now it's more observation than anything.On my opinion Toony is sketchy and all but i'll cast a final vote when i'll be satisfied with what i see. Right now its only against the face ( and also if it's your real face Broody i'm deeply sorry :()
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 23, 2010, 12:00:49 am
But, Toaster, it's so very punchable!
Clearly off the charts.
Are you looking for a response from me? If so, I have no idea what the heck you're talking about. How about I just ask you something?
You (apparently) random voted Broody, with a non-reason. He's posted since then, and you have as well, but you neither removed your vote nor actually asked him anything. Do you think Broody is scummy? If so, why? If not, why are you still voting him?
i was not really , in fact, simply reaffirming that i find is avatar displeasing. But really i don't know who it is, so it's a bit distressing. If you or him could help me and give em the reference i'd be happy.
As for the vote, right now it's more observation than anything.On my opinion Toony is sketchy and all but i'll cast a final vote when i'll be satisfied with what i see. Right now its only against the face ( and also if it's your real face Broody i'm deeply sorry :()
Seems a petty reason, but a reason none the less.
It comes from the villain from the movie No Country for Old Men (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4igGIRh3KSA), Anton Chigurh.
But surely there are a slew of reasons one could vote for me other than an avatar: So, what will be... Friend-o?
Post by: Toaster on August 23, 2010, 12:01:35 am
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 12:07:00 am
Well now. Unvote OrgYou don't have to vote somebody to ask them a question, so why are you, Ottofar? Do you have an actual reason for voting S117? Why'd you unvote Org?
Vote Spartan, how many games have you played?
STOP MAKEN ME LOOK LIEK IDIUT!!!!! i dun need help!That's how I do things, scumbucket. Get used to it.
And bandwagoning may not have done wonders for my reputability, but I stand by my reasoning.And what reasoning would that be, O' Great Mafioso? Insane Troll Logic?
I appear to be digging my own grave, so I'll just keep scumhunting while I can still help the town.There's no scumhunting to your voting. You're just randomly switching votes and asking questions. What town wants to do is break scum. You aren't doing that.
Mysteriousbluepuppet, votes aren't for "observing" when you included nothing in your vote to induce a reaction to observe. Get real reasons or get out.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:08:02 am
Also, thank you, haven't seen the movie, and i hate being in the dark for these kind of things.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:14:22 am
I'm getting back to you Zai, you are being pretty agressive. As in flinging accusation left and right, and being bossy.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 12:15:46 am
UnvoteThat's a good thing though, why would you vote somebody for doing that.
I'm getting back to you Zai, you are being pretty agressive. As in flinging accusation left and right, and being bossy.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 23, 2010, 12:17:59 am
Unvote Vector'Cool way to get two players to call each other scum. Makes it look like you're contributing, too.
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
The best part, of course, is that it implies you have opinions without needing to mention them. Perhaps some hint as to why you think either is scummy could help with their explanation of why they're not?
It's a fun way of reaction gathering; for instance, I get to see that TheBroodyMoods
On the other hand, Spartan 117 ignored it completely, never responded to it, and continued, er.
Voting for people at random, giving no explanation, changing each time someone called him out.
Derp.
While you were typing 8 new replies fuck you guys.
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 12:19:51 am
Quote from: Mysteriousbluepuppet link=topic=63487.msg1506232#msg1506232
I'm getting back to you Zai, you are being pretty agressive. As in flinging accusation left and right, and being bossy.What TM said. How is being aggressive a bad thing for town? It's what you're supposed to do.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:21:23 am
It could be compared to when you learn that your local anti-gay campaigner idiot is also a male prostite.
Edited to render my english a bit more understandable.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 23, 2010, 12:22:11 am
Also, thank you, haven't seen the movie, and i hate being in the dark for these kind of things.
My offer still stands. I will let you pick my avatar, if I can pick yours.
Getting back to my vote, as perhaps I have left it too long: Toony in all seriousness, whose your scum team, who's dying tonight?
You haven't changed your vote since your random, or really contributed more than condescending, flimflam'in', two sentence long posts since the day started.
You're not scum hunting or even providing much more, in the best case scenario- where you are town, than a vague threat to cover your own butt. Contribute, or continue to feel the impotent wraith of my minority vote.
With that, I am calling it a night. No one go lynching me until I get back.
Please?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 23, 2010, 12:23:21 am
Because normally scum tend to try to take control of the crowd not to get accused of scumbaggery, to divert suspicion elsewhere.
It could be compared to when you learn that your local anti-gay campaigner idiot is also a male prostite.
Aggression is a towntell.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:26:05 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 12:28:22 am
If it is then is it not the best disguise ?My god, worse WIFOM ever.
Anyway, remember mafia, night-kill me tonight.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 12:29:39 am
Quote from: TheBroodyMoods link=topic=63487.msg1506245#msg1506245
Getting back to my vote, as perhaps I have left it too long: [b
Getting back to my vote, as perhaps I have left it too long: [b
Toony[/b] in all seriousness, whose your scum team, who's dying tonight?I don't have a scum team, being town.
Hopefully the mafia team aim at me to die, it would be great.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:30:45 am
Post by: Toaster on August 23, 2010, 12:32:34 am
Basically, you're creating confusion, which is anti-town. Townies want to eliminate confusion- scum want to sow doubt.
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 12:33:49 am
Because normally town should try to take advantage of the mistakes they see scum make, to prove to the rest of the town that those people are scum.Yeah, you're right! How new are you to the game of Mafia anyway, O Secondary Mafioso?
I think I know what you're second sentence means ("think" instead of just "know" because of poor wording), but I'm not sure how it relates.
[PPE:] DON'T EDIT. NEVER EDIT IN MAFIA. EVER.
It's always a rule, even if the host doesn't say it is.
Unless you can get the edit in before the board displays the "Edited" line in your post. Then it's a-okay. I do that all the time as town, scum, and 3rd party.
[PPE2:]
If it is then is it not the best disguise ?...So you're saying that because I'm exhibiting a trait of good town, I'm scum? ...Wooooooooow. Anyway, you'll need more evidence to back up the claim I'm scum. CAN YOU DO IT?
NO YOU CAN'T.
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 23, 2010, 12:34:12 am
Unvote Vector'Cool way to get two players to call each other scum. Makes it look like you're contributing, too.
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
The best part, of course, is that it implies you have opinions without needing to mention them. Perhaps some hint as to why you think either is scummy could help with their explanation of why they're not?
It's a fun way of reaction gathering; for instance, I get to see that TheBroodyMoodsneeds to step out of the car and press this to his foreheaddisregarded my vote, pointing out rightly that I stated no real reason of being suspicious, and moved on.
On the other hand, Spartan 117 ignored it completely, never responded to it, and continued, er.
Voting for people at random, giving no explanation, changing each time someone called him out.
Derp.
While you were typing 8 new replies fuck you guys.
So, you asked me to prove his scumness, and when I prod him for tells, I get called out for not pulling out bullshit reasons?
I don't understand what you mean by dodging criticism? Can you explain?
Yes:Okay.In response to:
Broody, who do you want lynched?Unvote Vector'
I can't decide which of TheBroodyMoods and Spartan 117 is more scummy.
Each of you, convince me it's the other.
So, Toaster, what do you think I am?
You're not really defending yourself, nor really scum hunting. You asking other people to answer questions for you (out sourcing your own defense, if you will). Though your Jokerman vote showed improvement.Spoiler: Off-Topic: BroodyMoods Avatar (click to show/hide)"I can't call it for you... it wouldn't be fair."
See my statement to Pandarsenic. I was told to prove scumness, so I prodded for a tell.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:37:58 am
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 12:41:56 am
Hah, fair enough. Mostly meant that even if it is a classic townie move, it doesnt exonerate him from anything.True 'nough, but, scum, you forget that was your whole argument against me.
right now i havent heard much opinions from him directly.If you're talking about me, that better be joking, depending on what you mean by "opinions."
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:45:36 am
If it is then is it not the best disguise ?...So you're saying that because I'm exhibiting a trait of good town, I'm scum? ...Wooooooooow. Anyway, you'll need more evidence to back up the claim I'm scum. CAN YOU DO IT?
NO YOU CAN'T.
[/quote]
Havent changed what i meant to say, simply coreected the language ( I'm french, and having trouble to express myself clearly most fo the time)
I don,t say that you are scum, but i think you are the most likely from what i have seen. You still are jumpy and agressive. You don't give argument you just throw accusation. If you want to find the scums, at least try to do it constructively.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 12:46:40 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 23, 2010, 12:50:55 am
Spartan117, do you believe the Chigurgh-avy guy to be scum?
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 01:02:42 am
You still are jumpy and agressive.Aggressive, yes. Explain what you mean by jumpy, because I don't think you mean what we typically mean by "jumpy" around here.
You don't give argument you just throw accusation. If you want to find the scums, at least try to do it constructively.You best be joking. Have you even been reading my posts, and possibly even comparing them to those of, say, S117? Because this makes it sound like you really haven't been.
Spoiler: (Just 3 of) My Very Own Arguments (against S117) (click to show/hide)
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 23, 2010, 01:13:01 am
Nice word soup.
Spartan117, do you believe the Chigurgh-avy guy to be scum?
Not at the moment, no.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 23, 2010, 01:13:28 am
Quite frankly, i don't understand anything of your tirade against Spartan, ive read your messages but i can't seem to make sense out of it.
I'm gonna go sleep, clearly i need it at this hour. Maybe it will be clearer tommorow
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 23, 2010, 01:15:10 am
Nice word soup.
Spartan117, do you believe the Chigurgh-avy guy to be scum?
Not at the moment, no.
Then why try to prove he's scum?
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 23, 2010, 01:16:40 am
Post by: Spartan 117 on August 23, 2010, 01:23:42 am
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 01:56:37 am
By jumpy I mean quick to throw accusations or rebuttals if I try to say anything about you.I assume you don't mean to connect the two? Anyway, rebuttals would be because I have been having trouble sleeping and was using arguing with you about myself as something to occupy time.
It's hard to navigate on this iPod (I am posting from my bed), but I seem to recall several people bandwagoning on S117 after I and some others provided some arguments. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT, PEOPLE? I'll deal with you tomorrow if I have the time and energy.
Votecount, Web?
Post by: Ottofar on August 23, 2010, 06:35:29 am
Well now. Unvote OrgYou don't have to vote somebody to ask them a question, so why are you, Ottofar? Do you have an actual reason for voting S117? Why'd you unvote Org?
Vote Spartan, how many games have you played?
I find Spartan scummier than Org. In fact, Org's posts have made sense in this game.
Post by: webadict on August 23, 2010, 07:23:39 am
------------------------
Pandarsenic - ToonyMan,
Org - IronyOwl,
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE - Spartan117,
Criptfeind - Toaster,
Spartan117 - Zai, Org, Ottofar, Jokerman-EXE, Pandarsenic,
Ottofar -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
Toaster -
IronyOwl - Vector,
Eduren -
ToonyMan - Lonewolf I, TheBroodyMoods,
Zai - Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Not Voting - Criptfeind, Eduren,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central.
Hopefully, I didn't miss anyone.
Post by: Org on August 23, 2010, 03:37:04 pm
Because he could very well be. As I said, I was prodding him for tells.Tells do not just magically appear.
No.
All of us could be scum.
You are scum.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 23, 2010, 04:02:18 pm
See my statement to Pandarsenic. I was told to prove scumness, so I prodded for a tell.
So far you've contributed very little, excepting against yourself, so I want you to answer a question only you can answer:
Who is the scum? If not you, who? Evidence, please.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 23, 2010, 04:10:27 pm
Quote from: TheBroodyMoods link=topic=63487.msg1506245#msg1506245I don't have a scum team, being town.
Getting back to my vote, as perhaps I have left it too long; Toony in all seriousness, whose your scum team, who's dying tonight?
Hopefully the mafia team aim at me to die, it would be great.
Fine than, who is the scum, if it isn't you?
Quit being a righteous dick about it and tell me your theories: who's on Team Edward (town) and who's Team Jacob (Mafia)?
and I hope you get your wish.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 04:19:20 pm
Zai, Lonewolf, and I'm adding MysteriousBluePuppet to that list now. That would make the 3 scum team, I hope Zai tries to night kill me.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 04:20:02 pm
Post by: Org on August 23, 2010, 04:30:50 pm
Need to remove my random vote and put it on Zai now.Why.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 05:03:50 pm
He's my most suspected scum of course!Need to remove my random vote and put it on Zai now.Why.
Post by: Org on August 23, 2010, 05:35:41 pm
Why.He's my most suspected scum of course!Need to remove my random vote and put it on Zai now.Why.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 05:44:07 pm
Gauging from the reactions I got from him and his response to Spartan early in the day. This will be even more cemented if he turns out to be town.Why.He's my most suspected scum of course!Need to remove my random vote and put it on Zai now.Why.
Whose your pick for scum now Org with explanations?
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 06:32:32 pm
Gauging from the reactions I got from him and his response to Spartan early in the day.Oh really now? And what would this be or are you just going to remain vague?
Post by: Org on August 23, 2010, 06:32:38 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 06:37:00 pm
I'm not being vague, show where I'm being vague?Gauging from the reactions I got from him and his response to Spartan early in the day.Oh really now? And what would this be or are you just going to remain vague?
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 06:39:39 pm
...The very post I quoted? You say "the reactions [you] got from [me]" and "[my] response to Spartan early in the day" but don't say what these are. Care to share, O Kamina Wannabe?I'm not being vague, show where I'm being vague?Gauging from the reactions I got from him and his response to Spartan early in the day.Oh really now? And what would this be or are you just going to remain vague?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 23, 2010, 06:41:16 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 23, 2010, 11:55:51 pm
Eduren: This is your entire post history this game:
Eduren - If a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, how would the partridge in a pear tree cross the road?No soap, radio!
Are you going to actually play?
Puppet: Have things cleared up for you yet this game?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 24, 2010, 12:04:24 am
Post by: webadict on August 24, 2010, 06:14:53 am
Web: Requesting a prod on Criptfeind.He hasn't been on in a week. I'm thinking we may need to replace him.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 12:38:38 pm
I'll take it!Web: Requesting a prod on Criptfeind.He hasn't been on in a week. I'm thinking we may need to replace him.
Post by: webadict on August 24, 2010, 02:25:01 pm
Seriously, don't say it if you're playing, because you might succeed in tricking me.I'll take it!Web: Requesting a prod on Criptfeind.He hasn't been on in a week. I'm thinking we may need to replace him.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 02:28:37 pm
Post by: SirBayer on August 24, 2010, 02:59:37 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 24, 2010, 03:22:19 pm
Zai, Lonewolf, and I'm adding MysteriousBluePuppet to that list now. That would make the 3 scum team, I hope Zai tries to night kill me.ToonyMan, why do you think those are our scum? You've mentioned reasons for Zai, though not particularly precise ones, but I don't remember you saying anything about Lonewolf other than that he "seemed nice right now" (as a scumpick), and I don't think you've explicitly mentioned anything wrong with MysteriousBluePuppet.
Still looking. Quite frankly it's hard to make a informed guess on the first day. Keeping on checking, or at least i will once i get some sleep.MysteriousBluePuppet, if there's not much to observe, why aren't you asking more questions to MAKE something to observe? Waiting and watching isn't helpful.
Zai, why do you feel the need to make people's quotes sound dumber? Are their actual words not scummy enough on their own?
Lonewolf I, you explained why you thought ToonyMan was a jackass, but didn't do anything to investigate and haven't posted since. Why not, and do you think ToonyMan is actually a Jester?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 03:27:55 pm
Also mafia night-kill me tonight if I'm alive then.
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 04:47:21 pm
Zai, why do you feel the need to make people's quotes sound dumber? Are their actual words not scummy enough on their own?It's a habit of mine I use to aid in angering the people being quoted. Because people are typically less cautious about what they say when they're angry. It sometimes also serves to show what I think of what they say without pointing it out in extra words. There's a reason quotes (done properly), when clicked, lead you to the post being quoted. ;)
So. Energy (and thus my ability to focus on this game). Not as much as I would like.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 04:53:03 pm
bluh bluh explaining what I do so others can counter it bluhI should probably pick up this trait but people would hate me even more and I'll get a higher D1 lynch count, town or scum.
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 04:59:59 pm
What, you mean me responding to a question asked of me?bluh bluh explaining what I do so others can counter it bluhI should probably pick up this trait but people would hate me even more and I'll get a higher D1 lynch count, town or scum.
Yeah, you should probably do that too.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 05:03:34 pm
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 05:20:23 pm
You're slipping up again Zai.More like failure to comprehend the joke.
Energy = concentration level x 2 = Subtle Joke Comprehension Chance x 4
60% = 30% = 15%
Post by: IronyOwl on August 24, 2010, 05:28:05 pm
Jokerman-EXE, you've had one post reacting to Spartan's question and voting him for reasons stated earlier by others. You didn't ask any further questions and you've yet to do anything else. Given that you admitted to being the fifth vote on Spartan, I'm inclined to ask why you're bandwagoning someone and then returning to lurking.
Vector, you've done nothing but call me passive, answer an RV question, and claim you'll be back later. Given that they day ends tomorrow, who's being passive now?
IronyOwl, why have you shown up withLet that nervousness settle in, you're going to need it when the noose hangs your neck.Nooses can't hang people's necks, they can just be used to. Roleclaiming already?
as your sole contribution? Nothing to say about the current situation? No vote?
That's passiveness in a box, doodabuddy.
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 05:41:19 pm
One thing that interests me in the day so far is the Spartan Bandwagon, and specifically, the people that jumped on it.
Zai: Originally called Spartan out for votehopping, has continued to push, has been active. Question: What makes you think that Spartan is noobscum as opposed to noobtown?
Org: OMGUS vote, however had valid reasoning. Hasn't done much since and seems content to leave his vote there.
Ottofar: Votes Spartan for no reason other than to ask him a question. Has since clarified that he finds Spartan "scummy" yet has never given a reason why. Question: Why is Spartan scummy?
Jokerman: Votes Spartan BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE VOTING HIM (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1506128#msg1506128), Regurgitating the reasons that other people are voting him. Also his only post so far in the entire game. Question: Who are your scumbuddies?
Pandarsenic: Voted him based on a reaction, has since asked questions.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 24, 2010, 06:06:53 pm
Anyway, what I thought I posted yesterday is that I want to Unvote because ToonyMan is a Jester, and only hard evidence will make me believe otherwise.
Pandarsenic - Why did you jump on the Spartan bandwagon?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 06:18:42 pm
You don't joke in a freakin mafia game, it's like sarcasm it makes misinterpretation even more harder to avoid.You're slipping up again Zai.More like failure to comprehend the joke.
Energy = concentration level x 2 = Subtle Joke Comprehension Chance x 4
60% = 30% = 15%
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 06:25:32 pm
Zai: Originally called Spartan out for votehopping, has continued to push, has been active. Question: What makes you think that Spartan is noobscum as opposed to noobtown?Because no one is that stupid as to what is townish and what is scummy.
S117: Have you died/won/had-your-role-revealed in any games here?
Post by: Criptfeind on August 24, 2010, 06:31:55 pm
Post by: webadict on August 24, 2010, 07:10:25 pm
Sorry guys, my Internet broke. I do need a replacement. I hope I can get it fixed soon.I actually found one.
Zathras is replacing Criptfeind.
Post by: Vector on August 24, 2010, 07:13:28 pm
In any case, unvote. I'll be back as soon as I can to do a wide scan on everything that's transpired thus far.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 24, 2010, 07:14:46 pm
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 07:27:17 pm
Hello Zathras, how are you today ?
Yeah! I'm in! Hullos and how-do-you-dos all around. I'm quite fine, thanks.
I've been reading the thread before the replacement need arrived, and just made a reread, so I hope to hit the ground running. I'm a newcomer to the forums; I've played a couple of mafia games elsewhere, but none here other than the running BMXIV.
My thoughts so far.
- Toonyman. Interesting move asking to be night killed. He has, however, used it as a tool to avoid doing anything useful, which is bad for town.
- Spartan. Vote hopping, lack of real scumhunting -- lots of talking about it, though -- seems in favour of lynching anyone but him.
- Eduren. Extreme lurking, attempting to remain unnoticed.
And above all, Vector. I don't buy her "I'm busy" story. I've read a fair number of old games, and she always manages to post at least once every 24hrs when town, even if life's a bitch, but will vanish for days until challenged when she's scum.
Hey Vector, would you prefer Toonyman or Eduren as scum partner? why?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 07:33:47 pm
Now for your suspicions, if the mafia kill me town should have no problems for the rest of the game. I'm not some jester, jesters want to be lynched.
Post by: Vector on August 24, 2010, 07:50:37 pm
And above all, Vector. I don't buy her "I'm busy" story. I've read a fair number of old games, and she always manages to post at least once every 24hrs when town, even if life's a bitch, but will vanish for days until challenged when she's scum.
Hey Vector, would you prefer Toonyman or Eduren as scum partner? why?
You're wrong--I've received a fair number of prods as town in my day. Lurking is unusual, yeah, but it actually does happen. Like today, when I'm feeling sick, and yesterday, which I spent blindingly angry. But anyway, I'm doing what I can to answer things as they come.
ToonyMan plays like a weasel on crack, and when he's scum he plays like a subdued weasel. I think he'd be easier to distance from, though, which would be good. It also helps that most people seem to be unable to read his game. On the other hand, he's easily frustrated and starts acting crazier when people press him.
Eduren is a bit more rational, but has a notoriously bad scum game. I don't remember it ever being truly transparent, really, but others have commented on it. I think that in general, he could become easier to work with--but he's always been fairly easy to trap. By the way, my guess is that he's rolled up survivor again, or some other flavor of third party (guessing from BYOR3 meta).
Meh. ToonyMan. I may find him easy to read, but from what everyone else says he's probably not too transparent for others. I'll admit that I can't figure out what in the hell he's doing right now, though.
Fuck I need sleep and possibly painkillers.
Extension. I really need to look back on everything, and I'm too bloody worn out to do it right now.
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 08:04:01 pm
And above all, Vector. I don't buy her "I'm busy" story. I've read a fair number of old games, and she always manages to post at least once every 24hrs when town, even if life's a bitch, but will vanish for days until challenged when she's scum.
Hey Vector, would you prefer Toonyman or Eduren as scum partner? why?
You're wrong--I've received a fair number of prods as town in my day. Lurking is unusual, yeah, but it actually does happen. Like today, when I'm feeling sick, and yesterday, which I spent blindingly angry. But anyway, I'm doing what I can to answer things as they come.
Yeah.... No. That story would fly, if you hadn't been active, and posting dozens of times (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=15916) in the last day or two, while leaving this game entirely untouched. I don't buy it.
Vector, ma'am, you are scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 08:09:10 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 08:11:42 pm
I don't know how laid back your previous mafia experiences were, but this place has become pretty cool about people blowing off the game for a day, even if that includes posting elsewhere.And above all, Vector. I don't buy her "I'm busy" story. I've read a fair number of old games, and she always manages to post at least once every 24hrs when town, even if life's a bitch, but will vanish for days until challenged when she's scum.
Hey Vector, would you prefer Toonyman or Eduren as scum partner? why?
You're wrong--I've received a fair number of prods as town in my day. Lurking is unusual, yeah, but it actually does happen. Like today, when I'm feeling sick, and yesterday, which I spent blindingly angry. But anyway, I'm doing what I can to answer things as they come.
Yeah.... No. That story would fly, if you hadn't been active, and posting dozens of times (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=15916) in the last day or two, while leaving this game entirely untouched. I don't buy it.
Vector, ma'am, you are scum.
If you're voting her for lurking there are plenty of lurkier people to choose from.
If you're voting her for meta reasons, then I suggest you at least play a full game with people before you try to make those evaluations of them.
Post by: Vector on August 24, 2010, 08:16:57 pm
Yes! I'm lurking, and posting elsewhere. Yes! I really shouldn't--but who gives a flying shit on a tricycle? Fuck off and leave me in peace before I give you something to cry about. Ask me questions and I'll try to answer them, but seriously, don't be a shithead.
PPE:
I don't know how laid back your previous mafia experiences were, but this place has become pretty cool about people blowing off the game for a day, even if that includes posting elsewhere.
If you're voting her for lurking there are plenty of lurkier people to choose from.
If you're voting her for meta reasons, then I suggest you at least play a full game with people before you try to make those evaluations of them.
I should have probably been calmer and said something like this. Sorry for losing my temper.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 24, 2010, 08:20:07 pm
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 08:29:58 pm
I don't know how laid back your previous mafia experiences were, but this place has become pretty cool about people blowing off the game for a day, even if that includes posting elsewhere.
If you're voting her for lurking there are plenty of lurkier people to choose from.
If you're voting her for meta reasons, then I suggest you at least play a full game with people before you try to make those evaluations of them.
Fair points both. I do have lurkier people on my sights (you), and I am voting her primarily for meta reasons in our first common game, but I think the evidence supports it for now. It is also useful to see who jumps onto her defense. Are you hurt that she chose Toonyman over you as scum partner? Or do you think it was just a smokescreen to shield you?
You fucking moron. Who in the hell do you think you are, asshat? We're in the middle of a heatwave (it's 105 F)...
See, I don't buy it. I don't think you are the kind of person that would fly off the handle because someone you don't know has voted you on a game of mafia for questionable reasons. It is rather an attempt at intimidation of the newbie. "If I yell at him loud enough, he'll go away; let's make everyone avert their eyes by spewing profanities". No.
Sorry Vector. It's very warm where I am too, and the AC is broken. It sucks. I hope you feel better. But I still think you are scum.
Post by: Org on August 24, 2010, 08:35:57 pm
You fucking moron. Who in the hell do you think you are, asshat? We're in the middle of a heatwave (it's 105 F), I've been violently arguing with my mom for two days straight, I'm under heavy fire in a game elsewhere, and I haven't spoken to anyone outside my immediate family for something like three weeks (just the beginning of a 5-month period of such)--so screw me if I feel like sitting around instead of combing through pages of you bastards' posts for hours when my head is swimming. Screw me if I deem something else more important, like reading comics or socializing with people online.Jegus, RAEG VECTOR IS RAEG.
Yes! I'm lurking, and posting elsewhere. Yes! I really shouldn't--but who gives a flying shit on a tricycle? Fuck off and leave me in peace before I give you something to cry about. Ask me questions and I'll try to answer them, but seriously, don't be a shithead.
PPE:I don't know how laid back your previous mafia experiences were, but this place has become pretty cool about people blowing off the game for a day, even if that includes posting elsewhere.
If you're voting her for lurking there are plenty of lurkier people to choose from.
If you're voting her for meta reasons, then I suggest you at least play a full game with people before you try to make those evaluations of them.
I should have probably been calmer and said something like this. Sorry for losing my temper.
What do you think of Spartan?
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 08:40:08 pm
Fair points both. I do have lurkier people on my sights (you), and I am voting her primarily for meta reasons in our first common game, but I think the evidence supports it for now. It is also useful to see who jumps onto her defense. Are you hurt that she chose Toonyman over you as scum partner? Or do you think it was just a smokescreen to shield you?I totally understand her choice of Toonyman. He is incredibly adept at active-lurking and can generally get away with a lot.
And what do you mean about a smokescreen? If you're implying that we both could be scum then please come out and say it
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 08:43:39 pm
And what do you mean about a smokescreen? If you're implying that we both could be scum then please come out and say it
Yes, that was the implication, and I did say it on my original post. Vector, you, Toonyman and Spartan are my likey-to-be-scum list right now.
On other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?
Post by: Vector on August 24, 2010, 08:50:20 pm
Time to go eat dinner. I'll come back when I'm feeling less homocidal. This may be after I've slept and watched kitten videos, but I will do a deep read on this game, and I will have a case on someone.
What do you think of Spartan?
I haven't been paying as much attention as I should have, but I think he's been vote-hopping like a dog in a blender factory. Looks like hilariously bad scum. I'll have to poke him/read more into his posts to find out if he's a jester or just a scumbag. At the moment I'm leaning towards scum, though.
On other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?
If you mean me, then I don't have a bloody clue. I've been turning it over in my head for days, and I still can't figure out what the purpose is. Scum? Don't think so. He's not playing his scum game, nowhere near it. He's not playing his jester game, either, and I don't think this looks like Toony as a survivor...
So, I think he's a townie with some sort of weird power. Maybe he needs to survive n days, maybe he actually does want to be night-killed. I don't know. His statement about how the town will have no troubles after the scum kills him sounds a bit like he doesn't know scum would be watching, or that he's slipping and his intents are darker than I'm suspecting.
Need to think about it more.
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 08:57:45 pm
I think that what he is essentially doing is WIFOM. There's no way of actually determining his intentions, and if he is being sincere, he knows that there is no way that scum will follow his advice. Its not helpful to town, and frankly I don't like it.And what do you mean about a smokescreen? If you're implying that we both could be scum then please come out and say itOn other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 08:59:56 pm
Look at iPick and NSBM. You want to know who I am? There you have it. You can also look at the end of BMIX, if you want. That's a brutally honest picture.I did, which is why I arrogantly feel that I know your meta enough to vote you for it. I'm still reading through BMIX -- wonderful flavour, that; thanks for finishing it. I also read Rysh(?)'s semi-bastard, and your extensive scum chat there. That was quite a game, with some common elements with what has transpired today.
But I will not harass you anymore today Vector. I do hope you feel better tomorrow.
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On other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?
If you mean me, then I don't have a bloody clue. I've been turning it over in my head for days, and I still can't figure out what the purpose is. Scum? Don't think so. He's not playing his scum game, nowhere near it. He's not playing his jester game, either, and I don't think this looks like Toony as a survivor...
So, I think he's a townie with some sort of weird power. Maybe he needs to survive n days, maybe he actually does want to be night-killed. I don't know. His statement about how the town will have no troubles after the scum kills him sounds a bit like he doesn't know scum would be watching, or that he's slipping and his intents are darker than I'm suspecting.
I meant Eduren, but your read is useful too. Thanks.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 09:00:59 pm
How is it WIFOM to you? I would think only somebody who can night kill would think it's WIFOM.
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:24:02 pm
Lame rhetorical question is lame and rhetorical.I don't know how laid back your previous mafia experiences were, but this place has become pretty cool about people blowing off the game for a day, even if that includes posting elsewhere.Are you hurt that she chose Toonyman over you as scum partner? Or do you think it was just a smokescreen to shield you?
If you're voting her for lurking there are plenty of lurkier people to choose from.
If you're voting her for meta reasons, then I suggest you at least play a full game with people before you try to make those evaluations of them.
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 09:29:50 pm
But I will not harass you anymore today Vector. I do hope you feel better tomorrow.If you are meaning to unvote here, you just say "Unvote". Or if you want to be nice to the mod, you can say "Unvote Vector".
@Eduren:It's WIFOM because it confuses anybody trying to read your alignment. It is along the lines of "Would scum do this?" and the answer fluctuates between "No, its draws too much attention" and "Yes, he's taking a refuge in audacity".
How is it WIFOM to you? I would think only somebody who can night kill would think it's WIFOM.
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:31:28 pm
"Yes, he's taking a refuge in audacity".He's obviously doing this or is a Jester. There is no alternative.
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 09:33:42 pm
Overused meme is overused.
Hi Zai. A question for you -- if you were scum, would you use your night kill on toonyman? If not, who would be your preferred target as of now?
But I will not harass you anymore today Vector. I do hope you feel better tomorrow.If you are meaning to unvote here, you just say "Unvote". Or if you want to be nice to the mod, you can say "Unvote Vector".
No, my vote is fine where it is. It was reiteration and reinforcement.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 24, 2010, 09:36:44 pm
@Eduren:Unless you're scum, in which case...
How is it WIFOM to you? I would think only somebody who can night kill would think it's WIFOM.
Well, you can see how it works.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 09:39:06 pm
It confuses you, the one that didn't disprove my night kill claim on you.@Eduren:It's WIFOM because it confuses anybody trying to read your alignment. It is along the lines of "Would scum do this?" and the answer fluctuates between "No, its draws too much attention" and "Yes, he's taking a refuge in audacity".
How is it WIFOM to you? I would think only somebody who can night kill would think it's WIFOM.
No I'm not, enough with the labels on ToonyMan through all his games."Yes, he's taking a refuge in audacity".He's obviously doing this or is a Jester. There is no alternative.
I'm not seeing it.@Eduren:Unless you're scum, in which case...
How is it WIFOM to you? I would think only somebody who can night kill would think it's WIFOM.
Well, you can see how it works.
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:47:54 pm
Don't know what you're talking about with the overused meme bit.Overused meme is overused.
Hi Zai. A question for you -- if you were scum, would you use your night kill on toonyman? If not, who would be your preferred target as of now?
Fuck no I wouldn't. He's obviously Taking RIA as town/SK/other 3rd party, is a Jester trying to get himself lynched (and power to him; in Web's previous games, he hasn't had Jesters winning end the game, which means, if he gets lynched, the overall Non-Mafia to Mafia ratio goes down), or is legitimately trying to get himself NKed as an exploder. Any way, he'll probably get himself lynched.
I don't know who I would NK as scum. I'd have to think about it when I have more energy. Remind me tomorrow if you still care.
[PPE:] I'm not labeling you, TM, so you can get the fudge.
WEB: Can I get an EXTENSION in here?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 09:49:48 pm
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:51:40 pm
Don't know what "getting the fudge" means.Here you go. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=get+the+fudge)
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 24, 2010, 09:52:04 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 10:08:37 pm
I'm getting fudge recipes, so I'll assume you have no idea what you're saying.Don't know what "getting the fudge" means.Here you go. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=get+the+fudge)
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 24, 2010, 11:05:21 pm
By the way, way to punch vector in the snout to establish
No I'm not, enough with the labels on ToonyMan through all his games."Yes, he's taking a refuge in audacity".He's obviously doing this or is a Jester. There is no alternative.I'm not seeing it.@Eduren:Unless you're scum, in which case...
How is it WIFOM to you? I would think only somebody who can night kill would think it's WIFOM.
Well, you can see how it works.
You may be annoying as all get out, but you're not dense and I am getting sick of your playing stupid and whining about always getting voted the first day.
I still think Toony is scummy, but having seen his "magic" over my roommate's shoulder in the supernatural mafia and the fairly common feeling among the game that he's just being "toonyman", I'm unvoting and I wouldn't mind a side of Day Extension either.
I would love it Spartan would show up and face the music (here and BM).
Mysterybluepuppet, you've posted over the last couple days, but nothing substantial. In fact not a lot of your posts have been much more than single lines, sometimes coincidentally having a vote in them. You've been here since day one and have yet to make any substantial claims and even vote for a guy (me) who, as you claim, had the same suspicions (toonyman) as you did without any good reasons?
All from me for tonight; I promise to post something larger tomorrow.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 24, 2010, 11:13:16 pm
Eduren, why are you coming after me for lurking - not only that, but you do so by using the argument right above yours (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1510896#msg1510896), which, as you say, is one of my faults. In addition, you say yourself (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1511277#msg1511277) that lurking isn't even a big deal.
As a further point, I'd like to ask why you're covering for Vector and ignoring the lurking from others such as Pandar. To answer your question, I don't have any scumbuddies because I'm Town.
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2010, 11:34:23 pm
By the way, way to punch vector in the snout to establishdominancescumhunting.
I know. Flashy entrance, eh?
While you are here, let me ask you: what are your four top scum picks at the moment, and why? And if you were scum, who would you drop tonight?
And while I'm here, I'll ask IronyOwl: do you see Eduren's lurking as a scumtell? would you vote in favour of lynching Spartan if the end of day comes and yours is the deciding vote?
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 11:36:45 pm
Been out and about for the most part. Unvote Spartan, though I'm still keeping an eye on you.Lurking isn't the main reason that I am voting you. Far from it. I'm voting you for being a scummy asshat. (I wrote that entire post before I saw IronyOwl's btw)
Eduren, why are you coming after me for lurking - not only that, but you do so by using the argument right above yours (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1510896#msg1510896), which, as you say, is one of my faults. In addition, you say yourself (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1511277#msg1511277) that lurking isn't even a big deal.
You got on the Spartan bandwagon with no reasoning, and no intention of really scumhunting, and you have jumped off of it in the lamest way possible. How has Spartan suddenly redeemed himself?
As a further point, I'd like to ask why you're covering for Vector and ignoring the lurking from others such as Pandar. To answer your question, I don't have any scumbuddies because I'm Town.I was informing the new player how things are done around here. He seemed be unfamiliar with our ways.
Also, you seem to be casting a lot of suspicion my way. Wanna actually vote me?
Post by: Vector on August 25, 2010, 01:32:55 am
TheBroodyMoods - I think I am in love with this man's incredibly chill playstyle. He reminds me of a slightly less spiky and audacious CK. Alignment? Er... working on it. Need to question him.
Zai - Being very active and wielding the Whip of Justice. Given my near-certainty of Spartan's scummitude and my knowledge of Zai/Spartan, I'm willing to bet that this isn't a staged fight (though I'll admit that my intel on Zai's meta is sketchy at best). As such, he's certified town in my book.
Pandarsenic - sidelining. My feeling is that he's probably just being lazy, especially because he's being surprisingly calm under questioning. My experience of Pandarsenic is that he's typically a lot more jumpy as scum, particularly when doing anything remotely dangerous--so town, for now.
Org - Seems to be doing all right. Town for now, since he's being surprisingly non-useless. Keep it up, Org.
Lonewolf I - I think he's lurking more in this game than he has been in others. I need to examine his posts far more closely if I'm going to get anywhere with him.
Jokerman-EXE - Same as above, but subtract lurking. A quick glance makes him look townish. I haven't seen any slips.
Zathras - being an asshat. On the other hand, he's probably town. Kind of reminds me of Free Beer (except admittedly less emasculating and generally more... kind. ... Long story.). I'm withholding judgment on him right now for reasons that should be completely obvious to anyone who knows my history. Expect some grilling later, jerkabuddy.
Spartan117 - He's scum. Noobs in general don't have the subterfuge to run a joker game this good, and the votehopping business reminds me very much of some of my early scum games.
Ottofar - Heavy-duty lurking. I don't recognize any of his tells, but the sample size is so small that I can't do much with it. Please post more. I'll have questions for you soon.
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Serious sidelining, though he does post a lot. Please try to be more active and involved. I think you're a noob townie right now.
Toaster - Seems surprisingly inactive in this game, especially when compared to his activity in BMIII. Needs more questioning.
IronyOwl - Not sure. He's pretty posting-light and his early game looked bad, but on the other hand he held up well under fire. I can't say he reads scum so much as slightly negligent at the moment.
Eduren - lurking a lot and then... jumped to my defense. I appreciate it, but I can take it from here =) Please concentrate your efforts on finding scum, so that I don't have to worry that you're just buddying.
ToonyMan - I'm actually pretty sure that his shtick is the same thing that he pulled in BYOR... 2? The one where he had that Roosevelt role, and spent the entire time saying he was invincible + being completely useless. My guess is that he's a townie that honest to goodness actually wants to be nightkilled. He slipped and said that thing about it being great for the town, and he's not the sort of person who shows up in the first post of the game with a weird gambit like that.
More some other time. Sorry for snapping like that. There's been a lot of demands on my time recently, so I'm a bit more sensitive about it than I really should be. I also got a bit lazy about my playstyle now that there's no S rank to fight for >_>;; We'd probably do well to reinstate the ranking system at some point (but that's a topic for another thread).
Post by: IronyOwl on August 25, 2010, 05:03:51 am
And while I'm here, I'll ask IronyOwl: do you see Eduren's lurking as a scumtell? would you vote in favour of lynching Spartan if the end of day comes and yours is the deciding vote?
Eduren's lurking has been pretty severe, but the posts he does have are all either useful or not directly game-related. They're also reasonably dense near the end of the thread, so I'm leaning more towards townie who hasn't had time to play until now. The high chatter-to-content ratio is concerning, but it seems dense enough to be something he's doing in addition to actual playing, rather than instead of.
I'd probably vote for Spartan if it came down to it. The issue I have here is that we know for a fact he's screwing up- this isn't some subtle anti-town ploy, this is facepalmingly bad failure. Normally, scumtells are things so incompetently bad for town that they have to be malice- but here, we're talking about incompetent malice. Discerning malicious incompetence from normal incompetence can be tricky, and I'm not sure we've got him on anything scum would want to do in that manner.
That said, we simply don't have any better targets, and he's firmly in the No Big Loss pile anyway. It just feels more like housekeeping than scumlynching.
- Toonyman. Interesting move asking to be night killed. He has, however, used it as a tool to avoid doing anything useful, which is bad for town.
Now for your suspicions, if the mafia kill me town should have no problems for the rest of the game. I'm not some jester, jesters want to be lynched.
God damn it Toony. No less than three separate people have brought this up, and you respond to Zathras' question with "Don't worry about me not being useful, if this one thing happens my ROLE will do all the work!" I am FAR too sleepy to write up a full rant about you, but the notion that you are a jester is looking FANTASTIC. Do you have anything to say for yourself that doesn't involve how awesome it'll be if somebody nightkills you?
Unvote Jokerman-EXE
Ottofar. This is every post you've had in the game.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
This is every useful post you've had in the game.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Are we seeing the problem?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 25, 2010, 05:16:07 am
I'd probably vote for Spartan if it came down to it. The issue I have here is that we know for a fact he's screwing up- this isn't some subtle anti-town ploy, this is facepalmingly bad failure. Normally, scumtells are things so incompetently bad for town that they have to be malice- but here, we're talking about incompetent malice. Discerning malicious incompetence from normal incompetence can be tricky, and I'm not sure we've got him on anything scum would want to do in that manner.
That said, we simply don't have any better targets, and he's firmly in the No Big Loss pile anyway. It just feels more like housekeeping than scumlynching.
So you'd lynch him, but you don't think he's scum?
Post by: Toaster on August 25, 2010, 09:22:19 am
However Zathras, I'll ask you the same RV question: If you had to pick two people here to be your scumbuddies, who would you choose? Who do you think does the best job as town here?
Jokerman:
As to who's mafiakilled, I'd bet an experienced player. Pandarsenic, Toony, Zai, maybe Toaster or myself. It's hard to tell.
I feel like you're buddying me here. I'm not that experienced.
MysteriousBluePuppet: I asked you if your view of the game had cleared up. You said you were looking and would get back to me. Here are your two posts after that:
oh wow, o people, i guess it be better to dooze off for a bit,
Fudge is never bad, ounless you fudge something, then it's bad
You very much so did not answer my question, nor are you contributing. Why do you think it is OK to not attack anyone? Who do you think is scum, and why?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 09:31:37 am
I still think that Zai is scum. Proof, i do not have, beign the first day, but of all the games of werewolves ( that's the scum in french) i played most of the time it's one of the agressive questionner that cause the trouble. Also, i dislike the way he dumb down the quotes of other, even if it is to make other respond and incriminate themselve. He's distorting what the others have said, and that cause more and more doubt.
Post by: Toaster on August 25, 2010, 09:41:27 am
Is that all? No one else looks like scum to you?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 09:48:27 am
Also, Ottofar is pretty much not doing anything. It's not a proof but that ain,t good too.
for the rest i havent made an opinion yet.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 25, 2010, 12:41:19 pm
Been out and about for the most part. Unvote Spartan, though I'm still keeping an eye on you.Lurking isn't the main reason that I am voting you. Far from it. I'm voting you for being a scummy asshat. (I wrote that entire post before I saw IronyOwl's btw)
Eduren, why are you coming after me for lurking - not only that, but you do so by using the argument right above yours (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1510896#msg1510896), which, as you say, is one of my faults. In addition, you say yourself (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1511277#msg1511277) that lurking isn't even a big deal.
You got on the Spartan bandwagon with no reasoning, and no intention of really scumhunting, and you have jumped off of it in the lamest way possible. How has Spartan suddenly redeemed himself?As a further point, I'd like to ask why you're covering for Vector and ignoring the lurking from others such as Pandar. To answer your question, I don't have any scumbuddies because I'm Town.I was informing the new player how things are done around here. He seemed be unfamiliar with our ways.
Also, you seem to be casting a lot of suspicion my way. Wanna actually vote me?
Eduren. "Being a scummy asshat"? And what, pray tell, goes into being a scummy asshat? Let's see some evidence.
Hardly an excuse since you're informed that there's been a post.
You have this belief that bandwagoning is, by definition, scummy, and you're [/i]wrong[/i]. If someone is being a total scumbucket (ie: votehopping, being jumpy, and playing in a really weird way) - as Spartan was - then it's only natural for people to want to vote them. As far as I'm concerned, Spartan is still scum; likely your scumbuddy. Thing is, he's already slipped up enough that I feel I can focus on more experienced scum like you.
Informing him of our ways? More like buddying up to Vector.
Jokerman:As to who's mafiakilled, I'd bet an experienced player. Pandarsenic, Toony, Zai, maybe Toaster or myself. It's hard to tell.
I feel like you're buddying me here. I'm not that experienced.
Lol. Sort of a stretch, don't you think? But I see where you got confused; I wasn't saying that you're experienced, per se, but as I was looking at the list of names I was looking at who's played more than like, two games. Which is most of the people I listed. :I
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 12:46:27 pm
God damn it Toony. No less than three separate people have brought this up, and you respond to Zathras' question with "Don't worry about me not being useful, if this one thing happens my ROLE will do all the work!" I am FAR too sleepy to write up a full rant about you, but the notion that you are a jester is looking FANTASTIC. Do you have anything to say for yourself that doesn't involve how awesome it'll be if somebody nightkills you?I mentioning it enough so that everybody knows, everybody is a suspect you know. I'm not just going to sit hear and do nothing though, oh no, that's not Toony's style.
Don't be so modest, you can do stuff. Being modest will let you sneak around more too, which isn't good.As to who's mafiakilled, I'd bet an experienced player. Pandarsenic, Toony, Zai, maybe Toaster or myself. It's hard to tell.I feel like you're buddying me here. I'm not that experienced.
@Eduren:
Don't like what you're doing at all. Every god damn time you do this lurking thing only responding when called upon you turn up scum. You're like up the list man.
Post by: webadict on August 25, 2010, 12:49:51 pm
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Pandarsenic - Lonewolf I,
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE - Spartan117, Eduren,
Zathras -
Spartan117 - Zai, Org, Ottofar, Pandarsenic, Vector,
Ottofar - IronyOwl,
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Toaster,
Vector - Zathras,
Toaster -
IronyOwl -
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE,
ToonyMan -
Zai - Mysteriousbluepuppet, ToonyMan,
Not Voting - TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 8 to Hammer. 1 Extension Requested.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 25, 2010, 02:10:31 pm
While you are here, let me ask you: what are your four top scum picks at the moment, and why? And if you were scum, who would you drop tonight?
I don't know that I have a "scum team" in mind, but here are four I don't much like the look of:
Toony - for his flimflams, dodging questions, and feinting ignorance
Spartan 117- being jumpy and unclear, bandwagoning, trying as hard as possible not to answer any questions directly. Also, lurking after being spotted and not trying at all to defend himself in the least, claiming he is looking for "scum tells" but not sharing anything.
Mysterybluepuppet- Very little in the way of content, most of his posts being two sentences or less that occasionally have a vote in them, a couple of the votes being rather empty and devoid of explanation and then claiming he was suspicious of someone else but keeping his vote where it was. Also, both him and toony are voting for Zai, despite previously suspecting Toonyman- Why the sudden change of heart Mystery? Why not pursue your hunch on Toony?
Ottofar- Scummy too, he votes org, catches a little flak for it and than spartan votes Org and draws aggro from just about the entire thread. He jumps onto the Spartan bandwagon as if nothing ever happened and he was not suspicious in the least, saying that "Org has been making sense the entire game". He has been lurking ever since he landed his vote on an easy lynch.
As for your second question, I am not rolling scum. I have predictions however: I could easily see myself, Toony or Vector gone. I say myself because I am not drawing a lot of suspicion, and not informing in anyway who the scum may be. Toony because he's just double dog daring them too- that is if he isn't scum. and Vector just because she's a good player, who if got more involved in the game likely wreck some havoc. Obviously, there are others, that's just my thoughts on the matter.
TheBroodyMoods - I think I am in love with this man's incredibly chill playstyle. He reminds me of a slightly less spiky and audacious CK. Alignment? Er... working on it. Need to question him.
D'aww, thanks. I hope you don't think I'm being too passive, now. I spectated (without spoilers) the Beginner's Mafia you and Ottofar won, and I know you can be slippery. Nice, but slippery; you did a great job of alienating yourself from him, which I am trying to watch out for in here.
Pandersenic: Most of your recent posts have been akin to one liners, asking a single question. Particularly your last post questioning Irony-owl's thoughts on Spartan. It seemed like a much larger thought that you cut off at the knees. Why? How come none of your questions seem to have follow-ups? What are your actual thoughts on what Ironyowl said? Are you suspecting her of being scum buddies with Spartan?
I'll be back later to check on things and people. sorry, not much energy right now.
And I would like to vote for a Day Extension once more.
Post by: Scatterbrain on August 25, 2010, 02:37:29 pm
jolly entertaining game so far :)
Post by: Eduren on August 25, 2010, 03:22:54 pm
Post by: Org on August 25, 2010, 03:28:11 pm
Requesting an Extension.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 03:52:31 pm
Post by: Zai on August 25, 2010, 04:51:43 pm
Post by: Vector on August 25, 2010, 06:20:51 pm
Jus to let you know Broody i've been eyeing Zai since some time, and he's the one that seem the scummier to me. I don't really care if toony is voting for him too, mostly since right now theres no real risk for Zai to be lynched. He could very well vote for a fellow scum to get some credibility, since really it looks like it's spartan that will bite the bullet. as for my content, right now i don't have a lot since i don't have a lot that i'm sure off.
You've suddenly come out with Zai as scum. Can you explain your reasoning behind that?
(If you've outlined it elsewhere, just provide a link).
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 06:28:46 pm
Indeed, now that i'm back to my appartment, i'll answer
I still think that Zai is scum. Proof, i do not have, beign the first day, but of all the games of werewolves ( that's the scum in french) i played most of the time it's one of the agressive questionner that cause the trouble. Also, i dislike the way he dumb down the quotes of other, even if it is to make other respond and incriminate themselve. He's distorting what the others have said, and that cause more and more doubt.
Mostly that, but before it was mostly due to him being overtly aggressive and controlling. Dumbing or misinterpretting quote does not endear him to me.
Post by: Vector on August 25, 2010, 06:30:33 pm
That's it for now.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 25, 2010, 06:31:04 pm
Post by: Zathras on August 25, 2010, 06:51:21 pm
I'd like to toss my vote at Ottofar, who really needs to show up in this game and tell us what he's up to with his bandwagoning.
Yeah, why don't you? And hit him with your gut while you're at it. 8-P
And also,
UnvotecriptfeindZathras. So much for that RV.
However Zathras, I'll ask you the same RV question: If you had to pick two people here to be your scumbuddies, who would you choose? Who do you think does the best job as town here?
Oh, that's easy. Vector, for one -- she plays a mean scum game (a point I will come back to later today), and probably pandarsenic -- he's cunning and ruthless when he wants to be.
The best town here? so far? not sure. Everyone is doing a little bit, rather that one or two players leading the hunt. If pressed I'd say probably Zai, or IronyOwl, or even (heh) Org! But no one clearly ahead yet. And I'd rather not paint targets for the scum to kill -- they should go after Toonyman instead. 8-)
Post by: Org on August 25, 2010, 06:52:23 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 06:52:43 pm
Yeah they should man.I'd like to toss my vote at Ottofar, who really needs to show up in this game and tell us what he's up to with his bandwagoning.
Yeah, why don't you? And hit him with your gut while you're at it. 8-P
And also,UnvotecriptfeindZathras. So much for that RV.
However Zathras, I'll ask you the same RV question: If you had to pick two people here to be your scumbuddies, who would you choose? Who do you think does the best job as town here?
Oh, that's easy. Vector, for one -- she plays a mean scum game (a point I will come back to later today), and probably pandarsenic -- he's cunning and ruthless when he wants to be.
The best town here? so far? not sure. Everyone is doing a little bit, rather that one or two players leading the hunt. If pressed I'd say probably Zai, or IronyOwl, or even (heh) Org! But no one clearly ahead yet. And I'd rather not paint targets for the scum to kill -- they should go after Toonyman instead. 8-)
Post by: Eduren on August 25, 2010, 07:04:17 pm
Eduren. "Being a scummy asshat"? And what, pray tell, goes into being a scummy asshat? Let's see some evidence.The point is that voting Spartan was all you did. That kind of bandwagoning, with no contributions to the discussion is scummy.
Hardly an excuse since you're informed that there's been a post.
You have this belief that bandwagoning is, by definition, scummy, and you're [/i]wrong[/i]. If someone is being a total scumbucket (ie: votehopping, being jumpy, and playing in a really weird way) - as Spartan was - then it's only natural for people to want to vote them. As far as I'm concerned, Spartan is still scum; likely your scumbuddy. Thing is, he's already slipped up enough that I feel I can focus on more experienced scum like you.
Informing him of our ways? More like buddying up to Vector.
But let me rephrase my previous question. Why did you unvote Spartan?
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 25, 2010, 07:05:52 pm
I'd like to toss my vote at Ottofar, who really needs to show up in this game and tell us what he's up to with his bandwagoning.
Yeah, why don't you? And hit him with your gut while you're at it. 8-P
I-I'm soooo sorry. :'(
I have a feeling your luck will be a mite bit better on this game (code for: My bad).
Post by: webadict on August 25, 2010, 08:15:40 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 08:21:33 pm
Post by: webadict on August 25, 2010, 08:26:42 pm
Post by: Org on August 25, 2010, 08:27:19 pm
Post by: Zai on August 25, 2010, 08:36:04 pm
EXTEND GUYS. DO IT NOW.There's already been like 4 people request one.
HOW MANY DO WE NEED
Post by: Zathras on August 25, 2010, 08:36:12 pm
Zathras - being an asshat. [...]and generally more... kind.Why, thank you. *blush*
Expect some grilling later, jerkabuddy.Bring it on, scumface.
It is true that I voted Vector for meta reasons, and I may not be qualified to do so. So, I would ask those who do know her meta, except Eduren and Vector, to review these points and give their opinion:
a) She lurked with impunity for the entire game until 10 minutes before I joined (after IronyOwl prodded her). In the first two hundred posts, she has two contributions, on August 21 & 22, both contentless. Then silence until challenged.
b) Then a new guy comes and votes her, shines a light on her, and she responds with two meaty paragraphs of powerful vitriol (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1511291#msg1511291). I submit that this was an act; an attempt to scare away the newbie and redirect the new attention away from her and to either the newbie or the vitriol, not to her game so far. I ask those of you who know her:
- Have you seen her doing something like this, when playing as town?
- Would this be within her repertoire, when playing as scum?
- If this is within her possible scum game, why would she do it, unless I was onto something?
c) Unable to avoid the light, she returns to activity. Among other things, this:
Eduren - lurking a lot and then... jumped to my defense. I appreciate it, but I can take it from here =) Please concentrate your efforts on finding scum, so that I don't have to worry that you're just buddying.
Oh, you don't have to worry -- we'll worry for you. Eduren did subtly tried to guide me away from Vector, which could be perfectly innocent... or not.
Which brings me to Eduren. In addition to the above, he had been just as quiet and lurky as Vector before, and then made this unforgivable slip:
On other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?I think that what he is essentially doing is WIFOM. There's no way of actually determining his intentions, and if he is being sincere, he knows that there is no way that scum will follow his advice. Its not helpful to town, and frankly I don't like it.
Annoying it may be, but as has been pointed out, it is most certainly not WIFOM, unless you are scum. Toony is not presenting townies with an ambiguous and dangerous choice; that only applies to scum. You seeing it as such is clear indication that you are pondering your night kill with his gambit in mind. Eduren, you sir, are also scum.
Since I'd like to hear people's opinons on this, I too would like a Day Extension.
Post by: Vector on August 25, 2010, 08:37:40 pm
Post by: Org on August 25, 2010, 08:38:08 pm
Post by: Vector on August 25, 2010, 08:43:27 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 08:43:36 pm
I don't remember Vector ever doing what she did earlier today so I couldn't put it on either side. I think she's suspicious though.
Post by: webadict on August 25, 2010, 08:47:31 pm
Post by: Zai on August 25, 2010, 08:48:18 pm
Annoying it may be, but as has been pointed out, it is most certainly not WIFOM, unless you are scum. Toony is not presenting townies with an ambiguous and dangerous choice; that only applies to scum. You seeing it as such is clear indication that you are pondering your night kill with his gambit in mind.Bull motherfucking shit.
"Hey guys. I'm useless, but I have a useful role only if scum kills me. Now I just need them to kill me. But don't worry, I'm ensuring that they won't by telling them to NK me while saying it's good for town if they do. Just don't lynch me."
It may not be WIFOM, but it sure as fuck comes off like he might be setting up an excuse for later, when he's not dead yet.
[PPE:] THEN WHY DON'T WE HAVE A GODDAMN EXTENSION YET THEN?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 08:48:56 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 08:50:38 pm
That's quite a bit of assuming, it stretches the mind beyond believe Zai.Annoying it may be, but as has been pointed out, it is most certainly not WIFOM, unless you are scum. Toony is not presenting townies with an ambiguous and dangerous choice; that only applies to scum. You seeing it as such is clear indication that you are pondering your night kill with his gambit in mind.Bull motherfucking shit.
"Hey guys. I'm useless, but I have a useful role only if scum kills me. Now I just need them to kill me. But don't worry, I'm ensuring that they won't by telling them to NK me while saying it's good for town if they do. Just don't lynch me."
It may not be WIFOM, but it sure as fuck comes off like he might be setting up an excuse for later, when he's not dead yet.
[PPE:] THEN WHY DON'T WE HAVE A GODDAMN EXTENSION YET THEN?
Post by: Zathras on August 25, 2010, 08:52:08 pm
It is normal for Vector to post WOTs.
Walls of text, yes. Walls of invective, explosive vitriol? Do you recall? Would you say it's likelier for scum Vector, town Vector, or just I'm-tired-leave-me-alone Vector?
Post by: Org on August 25, 2010, 09:11:19 pm
Meh.It is normal for Vector to post WOTs.
Walls of text, yes. Walls of invective, explosive vitriol? Do you recall? Would you say it's likelier for scum Vector, town Vector, or just I'm-tired-leave-me-alone Vector?
Post by: webadict on August 25, 2010, 09:16:19 pm
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Pandarsenic - Lonewolf I,
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE - Spartan117, Eduren,
Zathras -
Spartan117 - Zai, Org, Ottofar, Pandarsenic, Vector,
Ottofar - IronyOwl, TheBroodyMoods,
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Toaster,
Vector - Zathras,
Toaster -
IronyOwl -
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE,
ToonyMan -
Zai - Mysteriousbluepuppet, ToonyMan,
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 8 to Hammer. 4 Extensions Requested.
Day Extended to Friday 9 PM Central.
Post by: Eduren on August 25, 2010, 09:21:22 pm
Here is the definition that I found for WIFOM.Annoying it may be, but as has been pointed out, it is most certainly not WIFOM, unless you are scum. Toony is not presenting townies with an ambiguous and dangerous choice; that only applies to scum. You seeing it as such is clear indication that you are pondering your night kill with his gambit in mind. Eduren, you sir, are also scum.On other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?I think that what he is essentially doing is WIFOM. There's no way of actually determining his intentions, and if he is being sincere, he knows that there is no way that scum will follow his advice. Its not helpful to town, and frankly I don't like it.
Quote from: MafiaWiki
The term 'WIFOM' applies to when a person creates a reverse psychology argument that causes the reader to wonder if the arguer is trying to funnel their thinking to a specific conclusion, and then hoping to outguess the arguer. WIFOM begins to exist at the point that an argument causes a circular line of thinking within the reader.Like I stated before, the circular thinking is created when a person tries to determine his alignment.
It's WIFOM because it confuses anybody trying to read your alignment. It is along the lines of "Would scum do this?" and the answer fluctuates between "No, its draws too much attention" and "Yes, he's taking a refuge in audacity".
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 25, 2010, 09:22:39 pm
Man, gonna be rough to follow that when college start..
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 09:29:28 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 25, 2010, 10:38:46 pm
I'd probably vote for Spartan if it came down to it. The issue I have here is that we know for a fact he's screwing up- this isn't some subtle anti-town ploy, this is facepalmingly bad failure. Normally, scumtells are things so incompetently bad for town that they have to be malice- but here, we're talking about incompetent malice. Discerning malicious incompetence from normal incompetence can be tricky, and I'm not sure we've got him on anything scum would want to do in that manner.
That said, we simply don't have any better targets, and he's firmly in the No Big Loss pile anyway. It just feels more like housekeeping than scumlynching.
So you'd lynch him, but you don't think he's scum?
As opposed to who? Ottofar's starting to move up there, since at least Spartan's showed up past RL day one, but otherwise we've got a lot of vague suspicions and semi-lurking. Of which you're a member, incidentally.
On other things, what is your read of Toonyman's request of being night killed?I think that what he is essentially doing is WIFOM. There's no way of actually determining his intentions, and if he is being sincere, he knows that there is no way that scum will follow his advice. Its not helpful to town, and frankly I don't like it.
Annoying it may be, but as has been pointed out, it is most certainly not WIFOM, unless you are scum. Toony is not presenting townies with an ambiguous and dangerous choice; that only applies to scum. You seeing it as such is clear indication that you are pondering your night kill with his gambit in mind. Eduren, you sir, are also scum.
Since I'd like to hear people's opinons on this, I too would like a Day Extension.
I disagree. We need to figure out what he is, and that means examining his behavior. It's theoretically possible to completely ignore a substantial part of said behavior, but it's both distracting and potentially limiting. It's not "gee should I NK him" WIFOM, but it's certainly "is he scum taking RIA, a jester, NK-reciprocator, or...?" WIFOM. Admittedly, it wouldn't be such an issue if he was doing more elsewhere, but letting someone declare portions of their behavior "for scum only so you don't need to worry about it" is ridiculous.
MysteriousBluePuppet, who do you suspect, and what sorts of questions do you think would help clarify whether your suspicions are true or false? Why aren't you asking any of said questions?
Org, who are your top three and bottom three picks for being scum? Why, and why aren't you asking more questions of said scum?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 10:53:07 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 26, 2010, 12:32:50 am
You have a night-kill as well IronyOwl?
Reaction fishing is nice and all, but when that's all you do, it's called being an insufferable jackass. Notably, you've done nothing to counter my claim, so it stands to reason that you don't have one but intend to continue on as though you did.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 26, 2010, 12:37:19 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 26, 2010, 12:37:44 am
Post by: IronyOwl on August 26, 2010, 12:58:36 am
I already said early it's not WIFOM. Also, you didn't counter my claim. Just like Eduren.
I disagree. We need to figure out what he is, and that means examining his behavior. It's theoretically possible to completely ignore a substantial part of said behavior, but it's both distracting and potentially limiting. It's not "gee should I NK him" WIFOM, but it's certainly "is he scum taking RIA, a jester, NK-reciprocator, or...?" WIFOM. Admittedly, it wouldn't be such an issue if he was doing more elsewhere, but letting someone declare portions of their behavior "for scum only so you don't need to worry about it" is ridiculous.
I thought this entire part was countering your claim. Could you explain why it's completely irrelevant, or why it's merely incorrect and why you chose to ignore it rather than explain why it's wrong?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 26, 2010, 01:03:26 am
Also, mafia can't night kill themselves dude.
Post by: Vector on August 26, 2010, 01:16:29 am
It is true that I voted Vector for meta reasons, and I may not be qualified to do so. So, I would ask those who do know her meta, except Eduren and Vector, to review these points and give their opinion:
a) She lurked with impunity for the entire game until 10 minutes before I joined (after IronyOwl prodded her). In the first two hundred posts, she has two contributions, on August 21 & 22, both contentless. Then silence until challenged.
Look up Color Mafia and BYOR... something. 1 or 2? I'm not sure. If you want lurking meta, then you really need to look at the stuff we were running without the rank system--because I used to have an S rank, which basically meant I could never go 24 hours without posting, unless I wanted to lose it. Despite that, I often went for days just dropping in to say "Sorry, gonna do this later" before kicking myself into being more active. I've always been one for smaller games, in general. If you want evidence of that, I consistently requested small bastard mods in the Threshold thread.
The first thing you should know about me is that I'm a raging perfectionist (as you should be able to tell from my scumchats). As such, I don't feel comfortable posting drippy, half-baked analyses. If I haven't read things, I don't feel good about saying anything. As they say, "speak only when you have something of significance to say." The second thing is that I have a horrible temper, as you can probably also tell from my scumchats.
The third thing you should know is that most meta is really invalid at this point--rather, I don't know what is still true of me and my playstyle anymore. Why? Well, since I last really played a game, I have:
Dropped out of college (thus saying "suck it" to all the poor mathematicians who believed in me)
Been dumped by my boyfriend of two years because I was "crazy"
Come down off of moodswings the psych industry thought might be bipolar disorder
Stopped having anxiety attacks and constantly being simultaneously enraged and depressed
Realized that previously mentioned boyfriend + his mother had convinced me I was mildly autistic, when in reality I'm ... probably not. Jury is out on that one. The greater probability is that years of isolation made my thought process a bit odd.
Changed my focus in life from the pursuit of mathematics, in and of itself, for a more pedagogical approach
Regained my ability to concentrate for more than half a minute
Effectively rebuilt my mind from the ground up, including an occasionally over-eager defense system.
I still have a bad temper, a perfectionistic streak, and an extremely curious mind. Who am I now? Well, sir, I can't tell you--but if all you can do is attack me with meta that old, then I pity you. Frankly, I would really appreciate it if you didn't hold me to the standards of the young woman I was nearly half a year ago. I'm not that person anymore, and I'm very grateful for it.
If I continue to play precisely as I once did, feel free to use meta arguments all you want. But seriously: times have changed, and I want to do what I can to put the person I am not behind me.
b) Then a new guy comes and votes her, shines a light on her, and she responds with two meaty paragraphs of powerful vitriol (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1511291#msg1511291). I submit that this was an act; an attempt to scare away the newbie and redirect the new attention away from her and to either the newbie or the vitriol, not to her game so far.
I was genuinely angry. I took a break from school to get away from people trying to tell me how to spend my time--between overbearing parents, a great mathematician who wanted me to study 14 hours a day, a friend who I had effectively needed to protect from killing herself for 8 years, the lonely people I know who I feel I'm obligated to spend time with, my high school teachers/professors who are driving me to do PhD work in languages/literature/whatever, the people telling me to write novels, the people telling me to do charity work, my violin teacher who needed me to continue, all those fools who tell me to go into acting, and on top of that everyone who's saying "just relax, Vector! Relax!"...
I snapped. I am really, truly sorry about it, but that is one of my big red buttons. I'm trying to overcome this feeling of tension that comes up whenever someone asks me to perform yet another duty--people who I want to repay, somehow, for everything they've given me (the knowledge, the support, the friendship, the lessons). I don't know if I can reward their faith.
And who are you? You're some guy on the internet, attacking me because I'm not giving this game enough of my time.
- Have you seen her doing something like this, when playing as town?
NSBM 1 was a far more restrained version of this. I lynched Free Beer at that point because I hated him, and that hate colored my perceptions.
There are other examples of similar WoTs. It just happens sometimes.
- Would this be within her repertoire, when playing as scum?
Yes. I bussed two of my partners in BYOR: Panda. Easily. Why? Well, the first one I bussed because I was mad at her. The second one I bussed because he had to die.
As Broody said, I'm slippery. My repertoire contains just about everything.
- If this is within her possible scum game, why would she do it, unless I was onto something?
Because you pissed me off. You pissed me off because I needed to step off-stage for a while, and you had the audacity to think that you should be able to stop me. Town, scum, third party, whatever: I have buttons. When people press them, I explode.
Walls of text, yes. Walls of invective, explosive vitriol? Do you recall? Would you say it's likelier for scum Vector, town Vector, or just I'm-tired-leave-me-alone Vector?
I exploded at a newbie in iPick because he had the audacity to ... do something. I think he was trying to turn one of my own techniques against me, soon after I'd taught it to him as an IC. I was nicer to him, though, because I liked him.
However, I've never exploded like that on this board, no.
I don't normally get that angry, in general. Sometimes I do. It happens when I'm tired and I feel overburdened, and I tried to give you a warning: stop pressing me or I'm going to eat you. You pressed me more, and so I ate you. As I said, I feel bad about it. I feel less bad because despite the message, you presumed to understand what's going on in my life, without taking into consideration the fact that... well, you don't know what's going on in my life. It felt like horrible manners.
Of course, horrible manners isn't a good excuse for what I did: there's no good excuses... but at least I can give an explanation or something.
Ugh, man. I hope you're not too offended. That was bad of me.
I guess I'd better post this, before I get too wrapped up in the morality of this situation again.
Post by: Vector on August 26, 2010, 01:20:13 am
So:
I have a bad temper. You triggered it.
I feel that some of my meta may be outdated.
Within that outdated body of meta: I have done similar things as both scum and town.
I have never done anything precisely like this before, mostly because I was trying really hard to be a nice cream cupcake when I was dating.
It turned out that I am nothing like a cream cupcake, and I should never have tried.
I am sorry for what I did.
Post by: Zathras on August 26, 2010, 02:09:21 am
I have a bad temper. You triggered it.
I feel that some of my meta may be outdated.
Within that outdated body of meta: I have done similar things as both scum and town.
I have never done anything precisely like this before, mostly because I was trying really hard to be a nice cream cupcake when I was dating.
It turned out that I am nothing like a cream cupcake, and I should never have tried.
I am sorry for what I did.
Oh well -- I'm sorry for unintentionally making you angry, and you are right that between the end of the ranking system and all else, at least the lurking meta is obsolete. Thank you for the depth of the message.
I do think your scum game is keen enough to be able to pull the vitriol as an act then and the explanation now both as a screen (that's a compliment, not an argument), but if you are, it worked. I will unvote you for now, but I'll continue to keep tabs on you (you wouldn't expect anything else, would you?).
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I still have a bad temper, a perfectionistic streak, and an extremely curious mind.... and a mean scum game. Those things don't go away ("Temper, genius and shape, you take to the tomb", they say were I come from), so don't blame a guy for always trying to read what you say from both sides, upside down, and reflected in a mirror.
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Ugh, man. I hope you're not too offended. That was bad of me.
Not at all, I have very thick skin. Please let me know if the sig bugs you and I'll change it; it's there now because that was, in essence, my "welcome to the forums" moment.
...which brings us to Eduren. Congratulations! You have just been promoted to top scum in my list. Is there anything you can say in your general defense, or do you have suggestions as to other places to which I can point my wrath? Apart from Jokerman, who do you think I should be looking at other than you?
Post by: Ottofar on August 26, 2010, 08:56:43 am
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
Post by: Vector on August 26, 2010, 11:38:24 am
Please let me know if the sig bugs you and I'll change it; it's there now because that was, in essence, my "welcome to the forums" moment.
No, that's fine. It's not as bad as the one about Genghis Khan, so that's all right ^_^;;
Oh dear. Eight pages in which I haven't posted. On monday nothing interesting had happened to post about, and on tuesday, I got home late, and posted a quick thing, but the electricity went down, taking the internet with it. I'll do a longer post tomorrow, assuming I have time.
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
Uh, doodabuddy. You pop out for out pages and you pop in with a vote that says nothing less than "you were defending someone! I keel you." ? Seriously? No questions, no real allegations, no evidence? No commentary on the other players, just another vote dropped with no extra analysis?
This is sloppy scumhunting at the best, and scummy at the worst. Shape up or hang, scumbucket.
Post by: Toaster on August 26, 2010, 12:41:06 pm
MBP: (I hope you like this shortening, because your name is long)
2 days ?
Man, gonna be rough to follow that when college start..
You realize this game will likely go on for weeks, right? If you don't have the time to commit to the game, you should ask for a replacement now. I think I saw someone willing to replace in.
If you're in for the duration, do us a favor and put more detail in your analysis.
Oh dear. Eight pages in which I haven't posted. On monday nothing interesting had happened to post about, and on tuesday, I got home late, and posted a quick thing, but the electricity went down, taking the internet with it. I'll do a longer post tomorrow, assuming I have time.
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
Ottofar, you bug me. You have a nasty habit of "I'll post more later," which I personally consider scummy. Your brief explanation is weak and lacks substance or reference, and is also vote #3 immediately following vote #2. You look like you're either being led around or just blindly following. You're also throwing an attack on Vector with zero description. Give us your evidence.
Org:
Zathras is the other traitor.
Are you calling him scum or throwing out randomness?
Post by: Toaster on August 26, 2010, 12:41:41 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 26, 2010, 01:31:13 pm
Sorry again for that people, but it's not better if i can't post anyway.
I'll follow to see how my replacement goes.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 26, 2010, 01:54:12 pm
So you're saying it's okay for doing this "bad thing" I did if I were to be active (which I am), that doesn't work out any sense.
Also, mafia can't night kill themselves dude.
If your WIFOM was only a small part of your total content, it could be ignored a lot easier than if it showed up in half of everything you say and probably composed a good 30% of your total comments. This is both because it'd be a minor part of your behavior (and therefore presumably a minor clue) and because it probably wouldn't be interacting with your other behavior as much. As it stands, your focus on it combined with your generally passive behavior means that:
A) We don't have much else to go on
B) It looks like exactly what I and several others have been concerned about: You're using it as an excuse to not do anything
I'll assume your last comment referred to the term "NK-reciprocator" because that assumption means you're making sense. I meant a war vet from Paranormal, someone who kills their nightkiller, but didn't know the right (more generic) term. Admittedly, the one I used is awful.
Incidentally, you're not really active. You're posting a fair amount, and it's relevant, but as I've mentioned you're just injecting one-line comments and occasionally giving brief, unhelpful explanations, usually when prodded. Frankly I think you're emulating Org, and I no longer buy that you're town, since you seem to have no intention of being helpful or communicative with us. Whether you're outright scum or a third party, I'm less certain, but on the off chance that you are town, you're either tired of trying or mad with rolepower.
Oh dear. Eight pages in which I haven't posted. On monday nothing interesting had happened to post about, and on tuesday, I got home late, and posted a quick thing, but the electricity went down, taking the internet with it. I'll do a longer post tomorrow, assuming I have time.
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
...
So your solution to lurking since RVS and fairly literally doing nothing is to kill someone to gather information from their roleflip.
Grats on overtaking Spartan on the lynchlist?
I thought I posted yesterday...Lonewolf, this is your latest post and you don't have much to say otherwise. Don't you have any other suspicions or questions to ask?
Anyway, what I thought I posted yesterday is that I want to Unvote because ToonyMan is a Jester, and only hard evidence will make me believe otherwise.
Pandarsenic - Why did you jump on the Spartan bandwagon?
Pandarsenic, how come you never got around to answering this, and what's your answer?
Post by: Org on August 26, 2010, 03:32:07 pm
PS Org: In either case, why?Callin out some scumness in him.
Post by: Toaster on August 26, 2010, 03:59:04 pm
Post by: Org on August 26, 2010, 04:18:28 pm
Post by: Zai on August 26, 2010, 06:26:14 pm
Oh dear. Eight pages in which I haven't posted. On monday nothing interesting had happened to post about, and on tuesday, I got home late, and posted a quick thing, but the electricity went down, taking the internet with it. I'll do a longer post tomorrow, assuming I have time.What the fuck man. You are failing scum so hard I almost want to change my vote from Scum 117 to you.
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
You leave for days, only to return with more of the shit you've been pulling since the start: voting without reasons. If your net goes down, you damn well do not come in here and change your vote to a brand new bandwagon after you never explained your previous one. You still aren't giving reasons! You still haven't responded to any questions!
YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT
Ottofar is either scum or just not bright at all.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 26, 2010, 06:40:12 pm
Also, mafia can't night kill themselves dude.Can't or wouldn't? /offtopicrulesquestion
Anyone voting Spartan is suspicious to me at the moment. I'd like a clear, concise explanation of the reasons for the bandwagon, and Pandar or Vector seem like the ones who would give one.I thought I posted yesterday...Lonewolf, this is your latest post and you don't have much to say otherwise. Don't you have any other suspicions or questions to ask?
Anyway, what I thought I posted yesterday is that I want to Unvote because ToonyMan is a Jester, and only hard evidence will make me believe otherwise.
Pandarsenic - Why did you jump on the Spartan bandwagon?
Post by: Zai on August 26, 2010, 06:50:52 pm
Anyone voting Spartan is suspicious to me at the moment. I'd like a clear, concise explanation of the reasons for the bandwagonI assume you don't mean to include me, as I didn't bandwagon. I also assume you mean to include Ottofar, as he only just jumped off that wagon and onto another.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 26, 2010, 07:08:51 pm
Post by: Vector on August 26, 2010, 10:09:12 pm
Quote from: A Brief History of the SpartanWagon
Zai jumped on Spartan at the beginning of the game.
Spartan spooked.
Spartan proceeded to votehop like "a dog in a blender factory" (metaphor thanks to the ever-lovely Miss Vector).
Various players started chasing Spartan.
Spartan disappeared.
Some players were distracted by the Vector/Zathras battle. Eduren went to Vectoria's side, rain running down the steep angles of his chilled cheekbones, and said simply this oh wait you wanted the short version.
Eduren came under suspicion by a few folks.
Ottofar popped out and said "Imma kill Eduren! Bang!"
People started unvoting Spartan because he hadn't been stupid recently and Ottofar was being funktacular.
If you want something more detailed than that, I can provide it--but that's the basic shape of it.
Post by: Org on August 26, 2010, 10:34:29 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 26, 2010, 11:30:24 pm
Can't.Also, mafia can't night kill themselves dude.Can't or wouldn't? /offtopicrulesquestion
Uh huh, you voted Spartan so that's under Lonewolf's list, so you did.Anyone voting Spartan is suspicious to me at the moment. I'd like a clear, concise explanation of the reasons for the bandwagonI assume you don't mean to include me, as I didn't bandwagon. I also assume you mean to include Ottofar, as he only just jumped off that wagon and onto another.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 26, 2010, 11:48:42 pm
I thought I posted yesterday...
Anyway, what I thought I posted yesterday is that I want to Unvote because ToonyMan is a Jester, and only hard evidence will make me believe otherwise.
Pandarsenic - Why did you jump on the Spartan bandwagon?
Missed this.
I voted for Spartan because, as I said, he was changing his vote the second he was reminded it was there for no reason, and he apparently tried to prove TheBroodyMoods was scum to avoid my vote despite not believing TBM was, in fact, scum.
Post by: Eduren on August 27, 2010, 01:53:52 am
...which brings us to Eduren. Congratulations! You have just been promoted to top scum in my list. Is there anything you can say in your general defense, or do you have suggestions as to other places to which I can point my wrath? Apart from Jokerman, who do you think I should be looking at other than you?I think that you should take a good hard look at Ottofar, in addition to Jokerman. Like I said in my post earlier, he had similar behavior to Jokerman and has since proved that he loves to piggyback on any suspicion created among the town without scumhunting himself.
Post by: Vector on August 27, 2010, 04:05:56 pm
Post by: webadict on August 27, 2010, 04:18:17 pm
Guys, I think we need either a prod or a replace on Spartan. He apparently hasn't been online for 4 days.Woo. Another replacement needed...
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 04:33:46 pm
You need to work on your grammar, boy. I have no clue what you're saying here. Even the French guy (Mysterious puppet of the color blue) I could at least understand!Uh huh, you voted Spartan so that's under Lonewolf's list, so you did.Anyone voting Spartan is suspicious to me at the moment. I'd like a clear, concise explanation of the reasons for the bandwagonI assume you don't mean to include me, as I didn't bandwagon. I also assume you mean to include Ottofar, as he only just jumped off that wagon and onto another.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 04:37:29 pm
Post by: webadict on August 27, 2010, 04:39:02 pm
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Pandarsenic - Lonewolf I,
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE - Spartan117, Eduren,
Zathras -
Spartan117 - Zai, Org, Pandarsenic, Vector,
Ottofar - IronyOwl, TheBroodyMoods,
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Toaster,
Vector -
Toaster -
IronyOwl -
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE, Zathras, Ottofar,
ToonyMan -
Zai - Mysteriousbluepuppet, ToonyMan,
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 8 to Hammer.
well web. i can try to keep it up, but i will have trouble posting during the day on the weekdays. sorry about thatDude, one post a DAY is good. I mean, it's the bare minimum, but it's better than nothing *AHEM*SPARTAN*AHEM*.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 04:40:36 pm
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 04:45:16 pm
Mysteriousbluepuppet: What is your opinion of the situation that has emerged since you "left?" Mainly meaning Ottofar.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 04:46:06 pm
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 04:47:10 pm
well give me a few hours to get back on it, i'll give you my opinion.We only have about 4 and 1/4 hours left, so you might want to make it snappy.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 05:11:18 pm
well give me a few hours to get back on it, i'll give you my opinion.We only have about 4 and 1/4 hours left, so you might want to make it snappy.
Yeah well, since he posted like 3 times, it wasnt that hard. And really nothing much to add on him. He may very well be scum, specially since his reason for vote hopping is flimsy . Specifically, voing for eduren since he supposedly defended Vector is hardly a reason to lynch someone. If you think that Vector is not clean then you vote vector, not Eduren. Lurking is not helping, too.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 05:12:18 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 05:38:00 pm
Ottofar: Lurikning like nobody's business, then coming to vote-hop, ask broad question then get back to the shadow.
Zai: I still have not got over your rephrasing\putting words in people mouth. Prod all you want, but it 's way too easy to use those to frame someone for something innocuous
Toony: I really think he goes for the refuge in audacity. The easy way is that he got a role that benefit him if he get nightkilled, but he could try to help a bit even then. How i see it he could be scum, and tommorow say that them scum chickened out of him. Give himself cred as a townie and continue to scum as he want. So yeah, jsut wanna be sure that people are aware that even if he dont get nightkilled tonight it don't mean squat about his alignment.
For the rest nothing special, Jokerman isnt talking much, and that's about it.
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 06:38:28 pm
Zai: I still have not got over your rephrasing\putting words in people mouth. Prod all you want, but it 's way too easy to use those to frame someone for something innocuous...You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real. Now I'm framing people by editing quotes? How the fuck is that even possible? No one should be able to frame anybody considering everybody has the complete body of evidence (minus stuff from roles) at their perusal at any goddamn moment, and if you're too lazy to click on a link to find out what a person actually said and would rather take obviously edited quotes at face value, God help us all as to how you're going to evaluate who to vote for.
People would have to be complete dumbasses to believe what I edit quotes to was what was originally said.
And then there's the matter of people who don't quote or even link posts at times when they should. How are you going to handle them when they seriously say a person said one thing rather than what they actually said, and don't provide a link to what that person said? Take what they say as the unquestionable truth?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 27, 2010, 06:43:15 pm
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 06:44:56 pm
Stupidly aggressive Zai has a high chance of being scum, what's the big fucking deal dude? You're exaggerating yourself horribly.Care to use more explanation? That would be just great. I especially don't know what you mean by "exaggerating yourself horribly".
Post by: ToonyMan on August 27, 2010, 06:48:24 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 27, 2010, 07:08:12 pm
Oh dear. Eight pages in which I haven't posted. On monday nothing interesting had happened to post about, and on tuesday, I got home late, and posted a quick thing, but the electricity went down, taking the internet with it. I'll do a longer post tomorrow, assuming I have time.What the fuck man. You are failing scum so hard I almost want to change my vote from Scum 117 to you.
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
You leave for days, only to return with more of the shit you've been pulling since the start: voting without reasons. If your net goes down, you damn well do not come in here and change your vote to a brand new bandwagon after you never explained your previous one. You still aren't giving reasons! You still haven't responded to any questions!
YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT
Ottofar is either scum or just not bright at all.
Scum Ottofar and Town Ottofar are nigh indistinguishable, and both play poorly. He's getting better (BM13 was a huge improvement for him), but it seems he's starting to slip again.
Otto - You're lurking and bandwagoning simultaneously. The day's about to end, and it's the weekend. Put off whatever you're doing and get in here!
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 07:11:15 pm
You spent three paragraphs explaining how stupid and wrong he is and acted like what you said is all that matters when what you're saying is wrong. Editing peoples quotes to fit your own needs and scum bias.Cool story man.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 27, 2010, 07:13:46 pm
You have nothing to say and you know it.You spent three paragraphs explaining how stupid and wrong he is and acted like what you said is all that matters when what you're saying is wrong. Editing peoples quotes to fit your own needs and scum bias.Cool story man.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 27, 2010, 07:13:58 pm
Fizzixed.You spent three paragraphs explaining how stupid and wrong he is and acted like what you said is all that matters when what you're saying is wrong. Editing peoples quotes to fit your own needs and scum bias.Cool story bro.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 07:15:11 pm
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 07:28:19 pm
For starters, you need to respond to what people ask of you more, even if it's not stated as a sentence:Cool story man.You have nothing to say and you know it.
That was me requesting for you to explain what you meant with these words, particularly the "exaggerating yourself horribly" bit, not just adding on more stuff.Stupidly aggressive Zai has a high chance of being scum, what's the big fucking deal dude? You're exaggerating yourself horribly.Care to use more explanation? That would be just great. I especially don't know what you mean by "exaggerating yourself horribly".
You spent three paragraphs explaining how stupid and wrong he is and acted like what you said is all that matters when what you're saying is wrong. Editing peoples quotes to fit your own needs and scum bias.1) They aren't paragraphs. They could have fit as 1, but I split it up so it flowed better. 2) I wasn't saying he's stupid. The "you are dumb" bit at the beginning was referencing one of Antoine Dodson's lines; I wasn't actually saying Mbp's "dumb." I don't use that as an actual insult. 3) He is wrong. You cannot frame somebody in a game of forum Mafia unless town is stupid as all get out or the game is a (semi-)Bastard mod in which the Town is lied to by the host in some manner. 4) "[My] own needs" would be getting people to make mistakes. For many people, this is easiest by angering them. I use stupified quotes to facilitate this. I have no scum bias in this game.
Mysteriousbluepuppet: Care to add more than *frown*? Emoting won't get you far here. Explain, explain, explain!
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 07:30:31 pm
That was the joke, and it's even unfunnier now thank you :P
Post by: ToonyMan on August 27, 2010, 07:31:22 pm
Why'd you respond first with nothing? Had to think of more scumtalk later?
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 07:37:03 pm
@Zai:I just thought I had already explained enough in the post prior to that, especially compared to how you explain. You still haven't explained what you meant by me "exaggerating [myself] horribly." Why haven't you? Had to think of more bullshit later?
Why'd you respond first with nothing? Had to think of more scumtalk later?
Post by: IronyOwl on August 27, 2010, 07:42:16 pm
ToonyMan is either scum or jester, and I keep flipflopping between the two. It's like he realized Org's routine only failed after a long while, and intends to reap the bounty of uninformative one-liners.
Ottofar's scum, as evidenced by pretty much 100% of his behavior. That's still only something like four posts, which is part of the problem.
Spartan's probably been run off, so he needs to either be lynched or replaced. I'd rather do the latter if we've got one handy, but if not we've got enough lurkers as is.
Org seems like he's being Org and should be lynched. He's been occasionally helpful, but for the most part it's lurking punctuated by short unhelpful phrases.
Eduren doesn't seem particularly scummy to me. Two of his votes are from questionable sources and one's for what I feel is a false premise. He needs to post more, but it seems like he's been doing that recently.
The rest are town or suspicious but not overly so. Apologies for brevity.
Post by: Zai on August 27, 2010, 08:29:39 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 27, 2010, 09:16:56 pm
I meant when you posted a lot that could be summed up quicker than you did, thus exaggerating what you're doing. Keep playing stupid scum.@Zai:I just thought I had already explained enough in the post prior to that, especially compared to how you explain. You still haven't explained what you meant by me "exaggerating [myself] horribly." Why haven't you? Had to think of more bullshit later?
Why'd you respond first with nothing? Had to think of more scumtalk later?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 27, 2010, 09:18:28 pm
Post by: webadict on August 27, 2010, 09:34:20 pm
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE - Spartan117, Eduren, [2]
Zathras -
Spartan117 - Zai, Org, Pandarsenic, Vector, [4]
Ottofar - IronyOwl, TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf I, [3]
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Toaster, [1]
Vector -
Toaster -
IronyOwl -
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE, Zathras, Ottofar, [3]
ToonyMan -
Zai - Mysteriousbluepuppet, ToonyMan, [2]
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 8 to Hammer.
Spartan 117 has been lynched!
Spartan 117 was GIR (mafia)!
You gather around the small robot that is Spartan. He's quirky, but he's too annoying to live. You all pull out powerful magnets and attempt to rip him apart, but he's made of a non-magnetic material and he has no visible circuitry to screw up. You beat him to death. Slowly.
That felt goooooood.
It is now Night.
Quote
GIR
As an annoying robot built with plenty of flaws, your main goal is rather unknown. You are built to serve, but you are built in such poor fashion as to do a shoddy job of it. But, luckily, you are built with destructive weapons and you're a robot. So doom da-doom-doom doom.
(Day) Assist [target] [player]: You can hinder a player by giving them fake information about another player.
(Night) Annoy [target]: You stop a player from being able to not only hear but go anywhere for the Night.
(Auto) What's The G Stand For?: Your actions have a 50% chance to do something else entirely.
(1-Use) Disguise: You dress up in a dog suit and will remain that way for 2 phases afterward (2 Days or 2 Nights, depending when it is used.) This will confuse anyone wanting your role name or any other part (You will be look town), including on death. This action cannot fail.
(X-Action) Scream: You emit a peircing scream for no reason whatsoever. This action may be used with another action.
Post by: webadict on August 29, 2010, 01:50:28 pm
Huh. Weird. You wonder where he went, but then get back to ruthlessly yelling and killing each other.
Vote Count
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE -
Zathras -
Ottofar -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl -
Eduren -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - Eduren, IronyOwl, TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf I, Mysteriousbluepuppet, ToonyMan, Jokerman-EXE, Zathras, Ottofar, Zai, Org, Pandarsenic, Vector,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 7 to Hammer.
It is now Day.
Post by: webadict on August 29, 2010, 01:52:26 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 29, 2010, 01:59:07 pm
Suspicious of Org, Lonewolf, and IronyOwl.
Post by: Vector on August 29, 2010, 02:02:36 pm
What are your reads on the populace, and why?
Post by: IronyOwl on August 29, 2010, 02:25:13 pm
Zai is probably town.
Suspicious of Org, Lonewolf, and IronyOwl.
Why?
Pandarsenic, you've been somewhat lurky. Who do you suspect and why?
Jokerman-EXE, you've basically hushed up since your argument with Eduren. Do you still suspect him, and who else do you suspect?
Ottofar and Org, get in here and do something.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 29, 2010, 02:29:25 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 29, 2010, 02:38:21 pm
Your analysis you made near the end of Day 1 lit up my gut.
Fair enough. What about the others, and why aren't you doing anything to test said gut?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 29, 2010, 02:46:42 pm
How do I test my gut besides doing what I just did? Want us to lynch you and see if I'm right?
Also holy hell don't have much experience playing day 2.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 29, 2010, 02:53:32 pm
Also holy hell don't have much experience playing day 2.
Org is being his scum self with his posts and the Spartan thing. Lonewolf looks like he's just playing along.
How do I test my gut besides doing what I just did? Want us to lynch you and see if I'm right?
Ever think these might be related? "Org is being scum with his posts" is not productive. "Lonewolf is playing along" isn't useful if you haven't explained what he's playing along with. Declaring someone scummy is not the pinnacle of scumhunting. Finally, acting defensively about being useless because you're always lynched for acting scummy is not very endearing. Plus, I want to know why Zai is probably town now, seeing as he was your only suspect Day 1.
Post by: Org on August 29, 2010, 03:05:17 pm
Pandar made no action last night that targeted a player.
Post by: Zai on August 29, 2010, 03:18:50 pm
Zai is probably town.Why? What caused this change of opinion?
Pandar made no action last night that targeted a player....You're partial-role-claiming already?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 29, 2010, 03:47:19 pm
Post by: Org on August 29, 2010, 03:53:54 pm
Yeah whatever.Zai is probably town.Why? What caused this change of opinion?Pandar made no action last night that targeted a player....You're partial-role-claiming already?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 29, 2010, 04:19:39 pm
Zai is probably town.
Suspicious of Org, Lonewolf, and IronyOwl.
Why?
Pandarsenic, you've been somewhat lurky. Who do you suspect and why?
Jokerman-EXE, you've basically hushed up since your argument with Eduren. Do you still suspect him, and who else do you suspect?
Ottofar and Org, get in here and do something.
Way to call me out for catching scum.
I'm going to be without my main computer from tomorrow to Labor Day weekend's conclusion; with any luck, I'll be able to either post SLOOOOOOOOOWLY from my phone or post garbled nonsense from a netbook's child-sized keyboard.
Post by: Org on August 29, 2010, 04:30:19 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 29, 2010, 04:39:31 pm
Also, TheBroodyMoods didn't take any action at all last night.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 29, 2010, 05:11:53 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 29, 2010, 05:12:29 pm
Day 1 conversation.Details. Also, why should it take three separate questions to get information that should have been included when you first spoke? While I'm at it, do you think Org is being useful?
Way to call me out for catching scum.You were something like the sixth vote on him, and said yourself you based this off the results of Zai's pressure. You did a good job of following your vote up with questions initially, but afterwards you pretty much just popped in now and then to make a comment. Why so keen to take credit, and why so defensive?
Eduren and IronyOwl, why were you two defending Spartan yesterday? You both voted me for identical reasons, and then the guy flips scum. In addition to Eduren defending/buddying Vector, I think you guys have some explaining to do.And do you remember what that reason was? You lurked, popped out to OMGUS bandwagon an easy target once he poked you, then went back to lurking. The fact that it was ultimately the correct decision doesn't mean it isn't suspicious behavior.
Also, TheBroodyMoods didn't take any action at all last night.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 29, 2010, 06:39:02 pm
Therefore, I am forced to conclude you are attempting to paint me in a negative light for a combination of my general laziness leading to infrequent posting and skimming rather than reading of the thread (allowing you to later go OH WHYDJA IGNORE ME FOR THIS) in combination with my accuracy in determining your partner's identity.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 29, 2010, 07:23:01 pm
IronyOwl, as you can clearly see I was the third of 4 votes on SpartanYou're correct that I just sort of took Jokerman's estimate at face value, so you weren't the sixth vote. You are incorrect that you were the third of four votes; you were the fifth of five votes at the time. Ottofar jumped ship way later on, but you were nonetheless the last of five people to vote for Spartan. Who did you think was after you?
Spoiler: Votes In Order (click to show/hide)
at no point mentioned Zai (though I may have used his reasoning without remembering it was his)
Spoiler: Explanation For Your Vote (click to show/hide)
and with Ottofar and Eduren at 3 votes each at the same time, it is highly unlikely that anyone voting for Spartan was scum, except MAYBE Vector, but that's pure WIFOM and I will have none of it.According to the first votecount after your vote, between which I saw no changes in vote, there were zero votes on either. Which part of the game are you looking at? The very end, pages and pages after you had cast your vote and done little else? Are you trying to say, after voting him for vote-hopping, that scum would have simply vote-hopped off without consequence, and hence any previous behavior of yours is beyond reproach? That's pretty much the essence of bussing.
Therefore, I am forced to conclude you are attempting to paint me in a negative light for a combination of my general laziness leading to infrequent posting and skimming rather than reading of the thread (allowing you to later go OH WHYDJA IGNORE ME FOR THIS) in combination with my accuracy in determining your partner's identity.So you feel that you are both too lazy to read the thread and also just so damn good that I'm trying to point out the former to disable the latter? Lucky break for scum that such a talented player has such obvious but not detrimental weaknesses, isn't it!
This isn't just defensiveness, it's defensive narcissism. It's also trying to distract from the method by pointing at the result, which is exactly what bussing is for.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 29, 2010, 09:03:08 pm
TBM was like "No, that's stupid"
Spartan117 was like, "SURE, IF YOU STOP LOOKING AT ME."
Also, I'm basing all my statements about vote quantities based on:
Vote Count
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE - Spartan117, Eduren, [2]
Zathras -
Spartan117 - Zai, Org, Pandarsenic, Vector, [4]
Ottofar - IronyOwl, TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf I, [3]
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Toaster, [1]
Vector -
Toaster -
IronyOwl -
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE, Zathras, Ottofar, [3]
ToonyMan -
Zai - Mysteriousbluepuppet, ToonyMan, [2]
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 8 to Hammer.
Spartan 117 has been lynched!
Spartan 117 was GIR (mafia)!
You gather around the small robot that is Spartan. He's quirky, but he's too annoying to live. You all pull out powerful magnets and attempt to rip him apart, but he's made of a non-magnetic material and he has no visible circuitry to screw up. You beat him to death. Slowly.
That felt goooooood.
It is now Night.QuoteGIR
As an annoying robot built with plenty of flaws, your main goal is rather unknown. You are built to serve, but you are built in such poor fashion as to do a shoddy job of it. But, luckily, you are built with destructive weapons and you're a robot. So doom da-doom-doom doom.
(Day) Assist [target] [player]: You can hinder a player by giving them fake information about another player.
(Night) Annoy [target]: You stop a player from being able to not only hear but go anywhere for the Night.
(Auto) What's The G Stand For?: Your actions have a 50% chance to do something else entirely.
(1-Use) Disguise: You dress up in a dog suit and will remain that way for 2 phases afterward (2 Days or 2 Nights, depending when it is used.) This will confuse anyone wanting your role name or any other part (You will be look town), including on death. This action cannot fail.
(X-Action) Scream: You emit a peircing scream for no reason whatsoever. This action may be used with another action.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 29, 2010, 09:06:03 pm
I'd probably vote for Spartan if it came down to it. The issue I have here is that we know for a fact he's screwing up- this isn't some subtle anti-town ploy, this is facepalmingly bad failure. Normally, scumtells are things so incompetently bad for town that they have to be malice- but here, we're talking about incompetent malice. Discerning malicious incompetence from normal incompetence can be tricky, and I'm not sure we've got him on anything scum would want to do in that manner.
That said, we simply don't have any better targets, and he's firmly in the No Big Loss pile anyway. It just feels more like housekeeping than scumlynching.
So you'd lynch him, but you don't think he's scum?
Hey, wait, THIS WAS YOU
Post by: webadict on August 29, 2010, 09:30:32 pm
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Pandarsenic - IronyOwl,
Org - ToonyMan,
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE -
Zathras -
Ottofar - Vector,
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl - Pandarsenic,
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - Eduren, TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf I, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Zathras, Ottofar, Zai, Org,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 7 to Hammer.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 30, 2010, 12:53:03 am
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 02:04:29 pm
And it's pissing me off.
So COME ON, folks. If you've got excuses, tell us what they are. If you're just sitting in the back having a lurky old time, get your asses out here and make some arguments! I may have been sidelining, but that's no good excuse. Be the change you want to see in the game, and let's get scum-hunting.
Post by: Ottofar on August 30, 2010, 02:23:01 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 30, 2010, 02:37:13 pm
I told TBM and Spartan117 to prove each other to be scum.You said you "found scum." You were the last vote, so you clearly didn't find him as far as anyone else was concerned. I would assume you thought to ask him that in the first place because of his reactions earlier, which means you didn't really "find" him as far as you're concerned either- is this incorrect? What are you trying to say exactly?
TBM was like "No, that's stupid"
Spartan117 was like, "SURE, IF YOU STOP LOOKING AT ME."
Also, I'm basing all my statements about vote quantities based on:Except, that's not relevant to when you did it, unless you're trying to say that you voted scum and are therefore confirmed and unquestionable town. That seems to be the general argument you've been making earlier, so why are you saying that? Why can't you explain yourself on your own merits, without pointing to the end result and saying it's therefore irrelevant?
<<end of day tally>>
Yes, it was. Are you going somewhere with this? Why'd you include your question but not my response?I'd probably vote for Spartan if it came down to it. The issue I have here is that we know for a fact he's screwing up- this isn't some subtle anti-town ploy, this is facepalmingly bad failure. Normally, scumtells are things so incompetently bad for town that they have to be malice- but here, we're talking about incompetent malice. Discerning malicious incompetence from normal incompetence can be tricky, and I'm not sure we've got him on anything scum would want to do in that manner.
That said, we simply don't have any better targets, and he's firmly in the No Big Loss pile anyway. It just feels more like housekeeping than scumlynching.
So you'd lynch him, but you don't think he's scum?
Hey, wait, THIS WAS YOU
I'm not sure if I can explain in much more detail, it's like you got this ball. I don't have to explain what the ball is made of because you know it's a ball. Not going to go all made of such and such material you've got the answer right there and you just want to sound like you're actually doing something.Except, you haven't really explained anything but that there's a ball "over there." You've said "Org is scum because of his day one posts, go figure it out," and sort of implied the same about Lonewolf, but you haven't actually explained anything yourself. Sure, we could go re-read D1 and figure out why you think Org is scum and Lonewolf is buddyscum, but we could do that anyway- why bother bringing it up if you're not going to do anything with it?
Perhaps more importantly, however, it doesn't convince us that you know why either is scum. It's really easy to say someone's "scummy." It doesn't mean you have any good reasons, just that you'd like to look like you're doing something. Saying they're "scummy because of their posts" is pretty much the same thing- you haven't actually said anything, so we can't get a reading on it. And since you seem to be fighting tooth and nail to prevent having to say anything, I have to ask: Why are you so afraid of opening your mouth? Why is any sort of communication with town something you'll do only when absolutely necessary, and even then only as much as you need to be able to claim you've responded?
Why are you so afraid of slipping up?
Sorry, I had a busy day, and didn't get home until now. I'll try to do something useful tomorrow, when I'm not so tired....this doesn't explain all of Day 1. If you're going to do nothing for a game day and a half, you'd better have some damn good shit when you get back.
Post by: Zai on August 30, 2010, 04:33:29 pm
TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf, Zathras, and Eduren, get your asses in here.
Ottofar, you have yet to provide a half decent excuse. "Hey guys I vote so and so."
"Oh sorry I was busy I unvote and vote that other guy."
"Busy again sorry for not posting for days. I unvote and vote that one guy. More tomorrow I promise."
"Oh sorry I had a busy day. I'll do something useful tomorrow."
WHAT THE FUCK MAN?
More tomorrow.
I'm starting to think we need some massive prodding and a reinstatement of the rank system, because seriously guys... this thing is dying due to inactives and folks who think they can sign up, flake, and leave.Nah. We just need that rule of "post at least once per real life day" back. No need for a rank system.
Webadict: I second that prod request of people who haven't shown their faces in here today.
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 04:41:58 pm
I'm starting to think we need some massive prodding and a reinstatement of the rank system, because seriously guys... this thing is dying due to inactives and folks who think they can sign up, flake, and leave.Nah. We just need that rule of "post at least once per real life day" back. No need for a rank system.
Rank system provides a handy incentive for those of us who are overachievers, and a way to keep tabs on repeat offenders.
Or we could just say "lurk too much and you don't get to play in my game." Dunno. Will require thought.
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2010, 04:50:09 pm
This is pathetic.Zathras is busy, but I'll just mass prod everybody.
TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf, Zathras, and Eduren, get your asses in here.
Post by: Org on August 30, 2010, 04:52:55 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 30, 2010, 08:39:11 pm
A couple people asked me my opinions of yesterday, and questioned my actions. Yesterday, I was standing by my reads of both Jokerman and Spartan. I was using my read of Spartan to form suspicions, and not as some say "standing by him". Once Spartan's role flipped, I was pretty surprised, and immediately had my opinion of Jokerman changed. While I feel I had valid reasons yesterday for my suspicion, those reasons have been shelved in the favor of evidence.
For now, I'm wondering who Vector finds suspicious. You seem to have voted Ottofar at the beginning of the day to get him to talk, but I wonder if you are buying into his excuses. If you don't, then why aren't you ripping him a new one?
If it's not Ottofar you are suspicious of, then who?
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 08:58:20 pm
For now, I'm wondering who Vector finds suspicious. You seem to have voted Ottofar at the beginning of the day to get him to talk, but I wonder if you are buying into his excuses. If you don't, then why aren't you ripping him a new one?
If it's not Ottofar you are suspicious of, then who?
In complete honesty:
I need to reread the thread to see what comes up with the Spartan roleflip. Ottofar is seeming fairly scummy, and I'll admit to some bad feelings about Pandarsenic and Broody (though I have no idea why the last is setting me off). I buy Ottofar's excuses for now, but fully intend to keep him to his promises. I was hoping that the new day would lead to new activity, but it seems like the game is really... lurkerful. As such, I'm hoping to take time tomorrow morning or whenever to read through and figure out which questions need to be asked of which people. I don't think my usual approach of shouting "GET IN HERE YOU BASTARDS" would be as functional as I'd like ._.;;
I want him to talk, but I'm starting to feel paranoid about the lurker situation in general. So many people are fitting my ad hoc profiling schema at this point that I need (as previously stated) some more incisive questions. There's so many of them that it's difficult to create any sort of reasonable wide-scan.
The only people I really trust to be town at this point are myself, ToonyMan, and Zai. My reads are clouded for the rest.
Sorry if that's at all hard to understand--I had caffeine for the first time in a month or so and it's causing me some parsing problems.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 30, 2010, 09:01:09 pm
Also, I am having trouble dealing with the sheer number of people posting- and all their different persona's. Also, other Mafia game. *whine whine whine*
I remain heavily suspicious of ottofar for his bandwagoning and short posts from the day prior (and seeing his contributions thus far in day two). What have you to say for yourself? My vote stays until I have heard a more concise statement from you explaining your lurky scummy bandwagon luvin' self. I look forward to it.
Toonyman,
I'm not sure if I can explain in much more detail, it's like you got this ball. I don't have to explain what the ball is made of because you know it's a ball. Not going to go all made of such and such material you've got the answer right there and you just want to sound like you're actually doing something.
That is an entirely asinine statement: The "Ball" is your entire reason for feeling something. It is the collective thoughts and evidences and such. What the "ball" is made of is totally relevant. You choose not to answer things and get indigent when people ask you for details. You spent all of yesterday playing stupid and whining "I never get past day one anymore, you guis!"
If this is really how you play town, why should you?
Also, TheBroodyMoods didn't take any action at all last night.
Not to sound ungrateful, but what made you choose to target me with your scan action? Why not Eduren whom you actually voted for yesterday? Or Toony or any number of other folks playing? I am curious. I may have missed this, but why are you still suspicious of Eduren, as well? And your thoughts on Ottofar, what are they?
Mysteriousbluepuppet:You plan on voting today? Or are you just FoS Eduren?
Apologies for the shortness of this post. I'll be back with more tomorrow. Sorry.
PPE: Vector, if you have a question of me I would love to answer it. It would likely do more to get me engaged in the game (incentive, if you will). I don't think I'm nearly as scummy as Pandersenic.
Well, I'm cuter anyway. *dimples*
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 09:05:18 pm
At least Toony is legible =/
But enough whining from me. More posting and analyzing.
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 09:09:42 pm
Come to think of it, I'm willing to guess that Puppet is noobish town. This is a gut guess. I'll have to see how well a close reading supports the notion.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on August 30, 2010, 09:13:17 pm
Also, I am curious about how easily Spartan was found out. From Scum point of view, depending on the players, at what point do you think they realized he was a lost cause? At what point yesterday do you think scum abandoned him? Because I mean for a good portion of the last day he wasn't even on the forum.
I'm directing this at more experienced players as a sort of strategy question. If you were playing scum, at what point would you have cut off the finger (spartan) to save the hand (ottofar and friends :P)?
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2010, 09:14:55 pm
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Pandarsenic - IronyOwl,
Org - ToonyMan,
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE -
Zathras -
Ottofar - Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods,
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector - Eduren,
IronyOwl - Pandarsenic,
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE, Org,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - Lonewolf I, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Zathras, Ottofar,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 7 to Hammer.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 30, 2010, 09:15:57 pm
I support the renewal of the ranking system.
I'm not sure if I can explain in much more detail, it's like you got this ball. I don't have to explain what the ball is made of because you know it's a ball. Not going to go all made of such and such material you've got the answer right there and you just want to sound like you're actually doing something.You're going with your gut instead of figuring out why your gut feels the way it does before acting on it. Is that it? Also, what is this a reply to?
Assuming I'm right, it's a reasonable playstyle, but you really do need to have some work to show when people call you out or you're going to get lynched every time.
Irony Owl and Pandarsenic - Are you fighting over niggling discrepancies in vote counts and ordering because half-remembered impressions were wrong or because they were wrong in such a way that your opponent is forwarding a scum agenda?
This post was ninja'd
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 09:25:48 pm
Also, I am curious about how easily Spartan was found out. From Scum point of view, depending on the players, at what point do you think they realized he was a lost cause? At what point yesterday do you think scum abandoned him? Because I mean for a good portion of the last day he wasn't even on the forum.
I'm directing this at more experienced players as a sort of strategy question. If you were playing scum, at what point would you have cut off the finger (spartan) to save the hand (ottofar and friends :P)?
Moi? It depends on the player. Some people can't bus to save their lives. Some people can gauge a losing strategy near the beginning and will nip a rival in the bud. It kind of depends on how much a player needs other people.
For example, Pandarsenic is an excellent busser/SK. I've done some bussing in the past, but it's hard for me--I always work better with others than alone, and usually try to run a perfect game. The scum might not even have abandoned him, ignoring their partner in favor of an illusory sort of distance. Some people can't stand paying any attention in-thread to whoever they perceive as "shaming them."
For me, it's usually not about cutting off the finger to save the hand. It's about cutting off the finger because the finger looks like scum, and townie Vector would be performing some serious amputation at that point. "One hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing," and all that. So, I'd say that under standard Mafia theory: If he's up to the third or fourth well-reasoned vote and he isn't an excellent liar, it's time to give up on him. I sometimes find myself leading the attack, though, or never really doing anything but placing a couple of shots across his bow. Sometimes there's big orchestrated fights. It's not all planned out and linear. I just play, do what I feel like, and hope that I'll be able to dig myself out of whatever holes I throw myself in.
Don't get your panties in a knot, ladies. It's Monday. The weekend's over. I'm still here.
I support the renewal of the ranking system.
panties != knotted, glad to have you here Fabio.
Will have to do something about the ranking system/subforum general rules/lackadaisical habits at some point, but first need to wide-scan here and on another subforum + instate the archives ::)
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on August 30, 2010, 09:38:07 pm
Also, TheBroodyMoods didn't take any action at all last night.
Not to sound ungrateful, but what made you choose to target me with your scan action? Why not Eduren whom you actually voted for yesterday? Or Toony or any number of other folks playing? I am curious. I may have missed this, but why are you still suspicious of Eduren, as well? And your thoughts on Ottofar, what are they?
Honestly, I just looked at the player list and randomly chose (and it wasn't a scan, it was a block). Why not Eduren? Because I randomly chose you.
I got a PM asking for my action and I didn't have time to really choose because I realized I was holding up the game (and viewing on my phone at the time of the PM), so I just chose someone randomly.
As to Ottofar, I feel that he might well be scum but that he has enough pressure on him that I can focus on finding the others.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 30, 2010, 09:41:27 pm
The only people I really trust to be town at this point are myself, ToonyMan, and Zai. My reads are clouded for the rest.If I might ask, how the hell is ToonyMan turning up town? He's practically refusing to speak.
Irony Owl and Pandarsenic - Are you fighting over niggling discrepancies in vote counts and ordering because half-remembered impressions were wrong or because they were wrong in such a way that your opponent is forwarding a scum agenda?The discrepancies over votes is relevant to his claim that he "found" scum, which he's attempting to use as a blanket defense instead of actually explaining himself. While it's suspicious regardless, trying to claim he's done more than he has is even more suspicious, so I'd like that resolved one way or the other.
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 09:49:15 pm
The only people I really trust to be town at this point are myself, ToonyMan, and Zai. My reads are clouded for the rest.If I might ask, how the hell is ToonyMan turning up town? He's practically refusing to speak.
Actually... I just realized. A half-baked analysis that needs more questions.
ToonyMan, how do you feel about being night-killed today?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 30, 2010, 10:57:44 pm
The metaphor I made up was for Org and IronyOwl. It looks like Org is voting Eduren and not me for some reason though and IronyOwl asked some questions so,
It is relevant, that's what a metaphor is used for, making irrelevant things relevant.
And Broody is questioning whether I should be playing the game so I can't think of anything but saying yeah I am playing the game.
Hardly anyone else comes out with clear cut suspicion lists.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 30, 2010, 11:10:12 pm
The part where I'm picking up reasons for your scuminess after catching you is normal for me. You are scum. Give up. You're desperately throwing some sort of bitchfit attacking everyone to try to get suspicion off of you. Stop it. There's a difference between "IronyOwl is being aggressive" and "IronyOwl is trying to look like he's being aggressive" and wintuition says you're falling on the wrong side of the PARABOLA OF RAGE this game.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 30, 2010, 11:20:15 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 12:33:48 am
The metaphor I made up was for Org and IronyOwl. It looks like Org is voting Eduren and not me for some reason though and IronyOwl asked some questions so,You're still not responding to any questions, including the continuation of your own ball analogy.
It is relevant, that's what a metaphor is used for, making irrelevant things relevant.
Hardly anyone else comes out with clear cut suspicion lists.True, but they come out with actual reasons why someone seems scummy. You've said who you think is scum but not why except in the vaguest terms. You're also not doing anything to follow up those suspicions, so it seems like your basic gameplan is "declare scum, return to lurking," without asking or answering any real questions in between.
The part where I'm picking up reasons for your scuminess after catching you is normal for me.Wait what? When did you do either? You've repeatedly pointed to your vote on Spartan and repeatedly ignored questions. When did you out me as scum or point out my scumminess, beyond my pressuring you and not voting Spartan?
You are scum. Give up. You're desperately throwing some sort of bitchfit attacking everyone to try to get suspicion off of you.I'm throwing the bitchfit in a desperate attempt to get suspicion off? You've done nothing but scream and moan about how you helped lynch Spartan and I'm attacking you, therefore you're town and I'm not. Let's see your arguments for me being scum:
Spoiler: Pandarsenic Attacks! (click to show/hide)
So we've got "I caught scum," "I voted earlier than I really did which means you're scum trying to shut me down," a truly damning Day 1 post in which I don't really think Spartan is scum, your "Wintuition," and my desperate thrashing in an attempt to avoid suspicion.
In other words, one is intuition, one is guessing wrong before the fact, and three of your five reasons are because I'm attacking you. HMMMMM.
Now let's look at your responses to my questions:
Spoiler: Pandarsenic Defends! (click to show/hide)
Wait, isn't that the exact same list? No wait, there's quibbling over who caught Spartan. I wonder if having your defense and attack being the exact same thing is good at alleviating suspicions?
Spoiler: Pandarsenic Ignores! (click to show/hide)
You fought me over the votecount and who "found" Spartan, but otherwise you've had no interest whatsoever in explaining yourself beyond attacking your attacker.
Stop it. There's a difference between "IronyOwl is being aggressive" and "IronyOwl is trying to look like he's being aggressive" and wintuition says you're falling on the wrong side of the PARABOLA OF RAGE this game.Your desperate attempts to get me off your back are noted, scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 31, 2010, 12:36:19 am
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 12:40:49 am
What would these unanswered questions be one that spurts fountains of text of anger?The ones we've been asking since the start of Day 2: Why you feel myself, Org, and Lonewolf I are scum, why you feel Zai isn't, and why you aren't doing anything to follow these suspicions up.
The majority of your Day 2 discussions have involved the fact that you say you've answered but haven't.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 31, 2010, 12:44:02 am
I answered those man. You're clouding your brain with scum rage.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 12:45:55 am
D:
I answered those man. You're clouding your brain with scum rage.
Aaaaand we've officially come full circle. I know damn well you're not that dumb, which means you legitimately don't want to be useful.
It's posts like these that make me consider the Jester theory.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 31, 2010, 12:47:47 am
Post by: Vector on August 31, 2010, 12:50:20 am
But maybe we could resolve this with IronyOwl posting the questions, and Toony linking to his responses, rather than dealing with this circular, page-eating drivel. I really don't want to have to read through this sort of crapola when I'm quote-picking tomorrow.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 31, 2010, 12:59:10 am
Why: Listed reasons, particularly explicit willingness to lynch someone he didn't think was scum. Who just so happened to be scum.
Any other questions?
Post by: Vector on August 31, 2010, 01:08:02 am
No, I'm mostly talking about the Toony-Irony argument that's happening right now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 31, 2010, 01:20:20 am
Like I said in BYOT's thread, the lack of netbook-compatible distractions means I'll be stepping my game up for the next week ._.
Post by: Org on August 31, 2010, 06:27:51 am
It is still Toonyman.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 31, 2010, 08:35:10 am
I'm starting to think we need some massive prodding and a reinstatement of the rank system, because seriously guys... this thing is dying due to inactives and folks who think they can sign up, flake, and leave.
And it's pissing me off.
So COME ON, folks. If you've got excuses, tell us what they are. If you're just sitting in the back having a lurky old time, get your asses out here and make some arguments! I may have been sidelining, but that's no good excuse. Be the change you want to see in the game, and let's get scum-hunting.
Hazing the new chemist. Ill be there today since i can't stand straight on my own power.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on August 31, 2010, 08:53:47 am
Post by: Ottofar on August 31, 2010, 09:59:55 am
About Vector, I'm getting some scum feel from her, but am not sure what it is. I'd like to see Eduren flip first.
Zai is scumhunting well. Town, almost certainly.
IronyOwl: most of his attention is directed at Pandar, but I think he's town.
Pandar, same as above.
ToonyMan, don't know. I dislike his NK wish. I think it's kind of night-BBB's gambit.
MBP, semi-activelurking, as he has been somewhat invisible whole the game.
Lonewolf: has also been quite invisible.
Zathras: Probably town.
TheBroodyMoods: Not sure, few quite good WoT's, but I'm getting a funny feeling from him.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 10:58:36 am
Why is IronyOwl scum?
Why aren't you prodding him?
Why is Org scum?
Why aren't you prodding him?
Why is Lonewolf I scum?
Why aren't you prodding him?
Why is Zai town?
Why is he no longer scum?
Why won't you give actual answers?
Post by: Ottofar on August 31, 2010, 11:00:39 am
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 11:33:36 am
Who I suspect: IronyOwl
Why: Listed reasons, particularly explicit willingness to lynch someone he didn't think was scum. Who just so happened to be scum.
Any other questions?
I know. I was just popping in to respond to the "ignored" question.
Like I said in BYOT's thread, the lack of netbook-compatible distractions means I'll be stepping my game up for the next week ._.
Hold up, this was in response to this?
Pandarsenic, you've been somewhat lurky. Who do you suspect and why?
Well, that answers that, though not at the time of my asking. All that's left as far as direct questions you've ignored are:
Spoiler: Ignored Questions (click to show/hide)
As far as accusations not explicitly stated as questions:
Spoiler: Unanswered Suspicions Not In The Form Of A Question (click to show/hide)
Plus, you know, the question of why you ignored all this until now.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 31, 2010, 01:41:52 pm
Why is IronyOwl scum?
Why aren't you prodding him?
Your analysis you made near the end of Day 1 lit up my gut.Why do I have to prod you right now. I prod when I prod, you have been posting quite frequently.
Why is Org scum?
Why aren't you prodding him?
Org is being his scum self with his posts and the Spartan thing.I might ask for a prod, but not likely.
Why is Lonewolf I scum?
Why aren't you prodding him?
Lonewolf looks like he's just playing along.Do I have to prod him? I don't think so.
Why is Zai town?
Why is he no longer scum?
Day 1 conversation.I had quite I bit of back and forthing with him which I think I've done enough to determine his alignment.
Why won't you give actual answers?I am so. Why are you asking stupid/redundant questions?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 31, 2010, 02:34:36 pm
Post by: Org on August 31, 2010, 03:16:25 pm
Post by: Zai on August 31, 2010, 04:45:23 pm
Ah, well, I am willing to defend my townie-hood with my life and honor.What the hell does this mean?
IronyOwl, my Wintuition said Spartan was scum and was right; it also says you are scum, and I expect it's right here as well.Oh fuck off with that. It's not (w)intuition if 2 people had already stated it and explained it. (2 people being Joker and myself. Ottofar was in there too, but...Ottofar)
Also, nobody called me on the intentional irony in this post:
Ottofar, you have yet to provide a half decent excuse. "Hey guys I vote so and so."This made me sad.
"Oh sorry I was busy I unvote and vote that other guy."
"Busy again sorry for not posting for days. I unvote and vote that one guy. More tomorrow I promise."
"Oh sorry I had a busy day. I'll do something useful tomorrow."
WHAT THE FUCK MAN?
More tomorrow.
Post by: Vector on August 31, 2010, 04:47:35 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 31, 2010, 04:49:53 pm
Oh fuck off with that. It's not (w)intuition if 2 people had already stated it and explained it. (2 people being Joker and myself. Ottofar was in there too, but...Ottofar)
It's not copying you if I never read what you said. <_<;
Post by: Org on August 31, 2010, 04:53:41 pm
YOU MEAN ORG?Ah, well, I am willing to defend my townie-hood with my life and honor.What the hell does this mean?IronyOwl, my Wintuition said Spartan was scum and was right; it also says you are scum, and I expect it's right here as well.Oh fuck off with that. It's not (w)intuition if 2 people had already stated it and explained it. (2 people being Joker and myself. Ottofar was in there too, but...Ottofar)
Also, nobody called me on the intentional irony in this post:Ottofar, you have yet to provide a half decent excuse. "Hey guys I vote so and so."This made me sad.
"Oh sorry I was busy I unvote and vote that other guy."
"Busy again sorry for not posting for days. I unvote and vote that one guy. More tomorrow I promise."
"Oh sorry I had a busy day. I'll do something useful tomorrow."
WHAT THE FUCK MAN?
More tomorrow.
Post by: Zai on August 31, 2010, 04:58:31 pm
YOU MEAN ORG?Sure, Org. You are included too now.
Post by: Org on August 31, 2010, 04:59:21 pm
Post by: Zai on August 31, 2010, 05:39:45 pm
Ottofar's first post:
MysteriousBluePuppet. What's your game?Random vote random question shit.
Then a stray, premature votecount request. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1504172#msg1504172)
Then this fucked up quote (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1504193#msg1504193).
Followed immediately by Ottofar unvoting and voting Org pretty randomly (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1504199#msg1504199).
After I asked (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1504939#msg1504939) why he was already requesting a votecount (and claimed there was an Ottofar/Spartan scumteam), Ottofar responded with the short almost-non-response "Phone. And semi-hammers." This was still far too early to be afraid of hammers coming into effect, so that's pretty nonsensical.
Ottofar took a break for a few hours, then unvoted Org and voted Spartan (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1506085#msg1506085) without a reason; there's just a question.
Wait, wait. Let's take a look at what both Org and Spartan had said while Ottofar was away:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
He says he finds S117 scummier than Org and that Org makes sense (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1506702#msg1506702). So no real reasons there. Just "he scumyer than him."
...Okay. He's gone for quite a while then (days). When he returns we get this shit:
Oh dear. Eight pages in which I haven't posted. On monday nothing interesting had happened to post about, and on tuesday, I got home late, and posted a quick thing, but the electricity went down, taking the internet with it. I'll do a longer post tomorrow, assuming I have time.Once again, no explanation of unvote, just voting for somebody because he defended somebody else. This also has the handy effect of getting his vote off of scum Spartan.
Unvote
Vote Eduren, you were defending Vector, and I'd like to see your alignment. Or Vector's.
When we return, Ottofar shows up with this (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1525841#msg1525841) saying he's busy and tired and will do something useful tomorrow (that's today).
Today, Ottofar's apparent definition of "something useful" is to make useless lists of everybody, marking them scum or town (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1528136#msg1528136). Also Org (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1528235#msg1528235).
OTTOFAR, YOU LAZY WASTE OF SCUMSPACE. Since you don't seem to grasp what it means to be useful, I shall assist you:
WHY DID YOU UNVOTE SPARTAN? WHEN DID HE STOP BEING SCUMMY?
WHAT MADE EDUREN SO MUCH MORE WORTHY OF YOUR VOTE?
And don't give me shit like "he wer scummier" or "ed deefnded vector"! I WANT ACTUAL REASONS WITH QUOTES AND/OR LINKS TO BACK IT UP.
Post by: webadict on August 31, 2010, 06:18:17 pm
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Pandarsenic - IronyOwl,
Org - ToonyMan,
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE -
Zathras -
Ottofar - Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods,
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector - Eduren,
IronyOwl - Pandarsenic, Lonewolf I,
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE, Org, Ottofar,
ToonyMan - Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Zai -
Not Voting - Zathras,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 7 to Hammer.
Hopefully, this is right.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 07:02:32 pm
Hmmm. I've never tried asking an enormous stream of asinine or obvious questions until someone lost patience. Fascinating strategy.
If everything I've asked or pointed out has been obvious or asinine, I feel I can confidently say that you're scum. You did a late bus on your partner, then attempted to use it as a shield against any further questioning. When that didn't work, you tried using it as a bludgeon to paint your attacker as scum- after all, only town would vote scum and only scum would attack town! When THAT didn't work, you kept calling me scum and claimed I was feigning aggression, in the hopes of getting me to back off, be suspected myself, or both.
When that didn't work you feigned ignorance and tried to BS your way out of having to answer anything. Game's up, scum.
Also Zai, if it makes you feel any better I noticed it and assumed it was indeed intentional. Just didn't comment on it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 31, 2010, 07:42:38 pm
Spoiler: Ignored Questions (click to show/hide)
As far as accusations not explicitly stated as questions:Spoiler: Unanswered Suspicions Not In The Form Of A Question (click to show/hide)
Plus, you know, the question of why you ignored all this until now.
'Cause with this low of a content-to-words ratio, I have to be damn bored before I slog through this mess of bullshit.
Which, coincidentally, I now am, because everyone else is playing the games this netbook can't run. <_<;
Post by: Vector on August 31, 2010, 10:47:09 pm
scumlist
Forgot about Jokerman, did you? Was he lurking too much, or did you automatically pass over him because he's actually your partner?
Post by: IronyOwl on August 31, 2010, 10:54:47 pm
Of course, if you think I'm talking a lot without saying much, feel free to show me how it's done. Just take what I've written and shear the excess garbage off without losing meaning, and voila! You've shown I'm a pompous ass. You're not going to do that, are you?
Oh, and speaking of low content-to-words ratios, you've responded to eight questions with a blatantly false "could happen", one FUCKYEAHIMSOAWESOME, two "go read I'm not explaining it"s, two pictures of strawmen, and two bad reasons you should have provided when you made the statements to begin with. Truly, you've gone out of your way to explain your actions in detail, what with half being refusals to answer and at least a quarter being giving me the finger.
But oh, it seems I'm not Pandarsenic and so don't like to sling bullshit without backing it up. So, let's start with his "could happen."
Are you trying to say, after voting him for vote-hopping, that scum would have simply vote-hopped off without consequence, and hence any previous behavior of yours is beyond reproach? Not like it can't be done. It took until pretty recently for someone to point out that that appears to be precisely what Ottofar did.
*BZZZZZZZT!* I'm sorry, the correct answer is the very next post after his pointed that out!
Spoiler: ohsnap (click to show/hide)
Moving on, let's see about that quote he put up as though it meant something, then ignored for several pages.
Yes, it was. Are you going somewhere with this? Why'd you include your question but not my response?
Hey, wait, THIS WAS YOU
Because the "I am willing to lynch someone whom I don't believe is scum" sentiment is what matters. That he was, in fact, scum, means that this lets you say you were fine with lynching him if he gets killed and flips scum while still not committing against him.
What's that? ACTUAL EXPLANATION OF WHY I'M SUSPICIOUS? Egads, it's a miracle! He actually explained why I'm scum for once!
Unfortunately, it's a really bad reason. For one, I already explained why I felt that way. Unless he can explain why that explanation was no good, the best he can really do here is say I'm still shifty.
More importantly, however, it wasn't necessary in the slightest. We started with what, 15 people? Four voted for Spartan, which means a full ten weren't voting for him. If I was desperate for some town cred, why have I never brought it up, and why didn't I vote for him when it became obvious he wasn't going to make it? If I wasn't, why bother? What's to gain here by quasi-bussing him?
So next up, Pandarsenic finally explains why he's had no defense other than to call me scum:
You fought me over the votecount and who "found" Spartan, but otherwise you've had no interest whatsoever in explaining yourself beyond attacking your attacker.
Oh, PUHLEASE. You're not lecturing me on when a vote is or is not an OMGUS and when an OMGUS is or is not a scumtell. Don't even try. I went there and back before you even came to this subforum and [CENSORED because somebody would've reported it for being too graphic]. Don't try to pull that on me.
I love this one. He goes into an obscenity-laden I-was-doin-this-before-you-was-born-kid rant about OMGUSing, in response to my reference to "attacking the attacker." What does "attacking" mean? Well, for a townie, I don't know, asking questions, explaining why someone's scum, pointing out holes in someone's arguments?
For scum? Obviously, I'm talking about votes, since that's what scum's really scared of, isn't it?
So please, if anyone has any further doubts about this scumbucket's alignment, do point them out for me. Otherwise I'd like to get down to business.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 31, 2010, 10:59:33 pm
IronyOwl, you're scum and I'm going to have your head on a platterrrrrrrrrrrrr~~~
Post by: Ottofar on August 31, 2010, 11:42:08 pm
He's been quite invisible too, not sure if town or not.
Post by: Zathras on August 31, 2010, 11:56:32 pm
Eduren:
For now, I'm wondering who Vector finds suspicious. You seem to have voted Ottofar at the beginning of the day to get him to talk, but I wonder if you are buying into his excuses. If you don't, then why aren't you ripping him a new one?I find your vote for Vector suspicious (and specious). Is this a day 2 random vote, or do you have any meat behind it? Has it anything to do with your perceived defense/buddying yesterday, so now is the time to distance?
Vector: about the above, would you find it suspicious if you weren't the target? (say if he had defended/buddied Zai yesterday, and today voted him with no reasoning behind it?) If so, would you be grilling him for it?
I am still suspicious of a Vector/Eduren scum pair.
Toonyman:
I'm pretty sure Panda is town as well.Would you mind explaining your reasoning for this?
Pandarsenic:
IronyOwl, my Wintuition said Spartan was scum and was right; it also says you are scum, and I expect it's right here as well.No. You are the one giving nothing but intangibles, gut feels, rage and insults as replies. This may be your superinvincibleuberpandastyle, but it sucks, it gives no information, and it's scummy. Please answer this: other than IronyOwl, who is most suspicious to you now and why? What is your opinion on the possible scumminess of Eduren, Ottofar & Lonewolf?
The part where I'm picking up reasons for your scuminess after catching you is normal for me. You are scum. Give up. You're desperately throwing some sort of bitchfit attacking everyone to try to get suspicion off of you. Stop it. There's a difference between "IronyOwl is being aggressive" and "IronyOwl is trying to look like he's being aggressive" and wintuition says you're falling on the wrong side of the PARABOLA OF RAGE this game.
Lonewolf:
Irony Owl and Pandarsenic - Are you fighting over niggling discrepancies in vote counts and ordering because half-remembered impressions were wrong or because they were wrong in such a way that your opponent is forwarding a scum agenda?Your question was answered (after a fashion) several posts ago. Have you seen anything new in the exchange to give you a better perspective? Do you think at this point that IronyOwl, or Pandarsenic is being scummier? Other that these two, who should be scrutinized in your opinion?
Ottofar.
This guy is utterly scummy, for reasons endlessly expounded in the pages before (small summary below so I'm not accused of voting without support). In addition, since he has voted for Eduren, his roleflip will provide useful data to some other suspicions referred in this post.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 01, 2010, 12:05:26 am
Once again, no explanation of unvote, just voting for somebody because he defended somebody else. This also has the handy effect of getting his vote off of scum Spartan.
So once we lynch IronyOwl, we can tag Ottofar, sure.
Post by: Vector on September 01, 2010, 12:20:35 am
Vector: about the above, would you find it suspicious if you weren't the target? (say if he had defended/buddied Zai yesterday, and today voted him with no reasoning behind it?) If so, would you be grilling him for it?
This is a hard one to pull apart. Clearly, I'm not grilling him for it; this alone, particularly from eduren, wouldn't be enough to trip my alarms. As a townie, I know that he's not performing the usual "save the scumbuddy and then quick! Distance yourself!" routine. I also know this because I'd never let a member of my scumteam pull that sort of shit--I like being self-sufficient.
I think he's trying to distance himself from me, yeah, but I haven't seen any other scumtells that are telling me I need to grill him. He defended me like a townie (erm... weird thing to say there, but scum and town do it differently. At the least, it's not screaming scum), and then he asked me some basic questions. It didn't feel like a particularly aggressive vote. It felt like a tag from someone who was looking for leads.
The other thing is that this is just eduren's style, to the best of my knowledge. He occasionally defrays particularly dire altercations and tends to ask particularly incisive questions. In this case, they happened to come right after each other. He's not playing his scum game, and he's definitely not playing his survivor game.
So, to sum it up:
At this point in the game, I don't think I'd be particularly worried about Eduren's behavior (no matter the target, save some esoteric situations I'll cut out here for purpose of generality). Later in the game, I might ask about it, but right now I'm trying to figure out what Ottofar's problem is. Eduren just hasn't built up enough scumtells for me to worry about him much.
Post by: Vector on September 01, 2010, 03:41:02 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 01, 2010, 03:44:00 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 01, 2010, 03:46:00 am
Post by: Ottofar on September 01, 2010, 08:02:27 am
Once again, no explanation of unvote, just voting for somebody because he defended somebody else. This also has the handy effect of getting his vote off of scum Spartan.
...You forget, that this happened in my first post following TBM's
Ottofar- Scummy too, he votes org, catches a little flak for it and than spartan votes Org and draws aggro from just about the entire thread. He jumps onto the Spartan bandwagon as if nothing ever happened and he was not suspicious in the least, saying that "Org has been making sense the entire game". He has been lurking ever since he landed his vote on an easy lynch.
Zathras, I'm always like this. I'm town this time around, but, I admit, I look more scummy here, than in BM XIII, where I was scum.
But yeah, I should be killed before LyLo anyways.
Post by: Ottofar on September 01, 2010, 08:21:49 am
Post by: Zathras on September 01, 2010, 10:37:08 am
Toonyman:I'm pretty sure Panda is town as well.Would you mind explaining your reasoning for this?
Pandarsenic is town because IronyOwl decided with his team mates (or possibly not with team mates) last night/today to target him with a lot a lot of words which is something I did as scum to cause a large distraction before.
Negative. You said "I'm pretty sure Panda is town" HOURS before the long IronyOwl/Pandarsenic exchange. Why did you think Panda was town, BEFORE the two pages of mutual headbutting?
"Pretty sure is town" is not said lightly, so... why?
(timestamps notable in the links above, you said it before they started.)
Post by: ToonyMan on September 01, 2010, 01:47:24 pm
Post by: Zai on September 01, 2010, 02:49:47 pm
What? THIS EXPLAINS NOTHING!Once again, no explanation of unvote, just voting for somebody because he defended somebody else. This also has the handy effect of getting his vote off of scum Spartan.
...You forget, that this happened in my first post following TBM'sOttofar- Scummy too, he votes org, catches a little flak for it and than spartan votes Org and draws aggro from just about the entire thread. He jumps onto the Spartan bandwagon as if nothing ever happened and he was not suspicious in the least, saying that "Org has been making sense the entire game". He has been lurking ever since he landed his vote on an easy lynch.
OH WAIT. I think I get it! You're saying that you changed your vote because someone was onto you about your vote being ridiculous. Am I right? If so, that is a terrible reason for town to have! If I'm not, FUCKING EXPLAIN, SCUMNUTS.
And why the fuck did you not answer my questions? For your added goddamn convenience:
OTTOFAR, YOU LAZY WASTE OF SCUMSPACE. Since you don't seem to grasp what it means to be useful, I shall assist you:
WHY DID YOU UNVOTE SPARTAN? WHEN DID HE STOP BEING SCUMMY?
WHAT MADE EDUREN SO MUCH MORE WORTHY OF YOUR VOTE?
And don't give me shit like "he wer scummier" or "ed deefnded vector"! I WANT ACTUAL REASONS WITH QUOTES AND/OR LINKS TO BACK IT UP.
Post by: Ottofar on September 01, 2010, 02:56:18 pm
I was voting for Eduren to see his alignment, as he defended Vector, and I think Vector is better at scumhunting than him. He had also been lurking at that point, and Spartan looked more like noobtown, in my opinion.
Post by: Vector on September 01, 2010, 08:46:04 pm
No. I just noticed that part of TBM's post myself.
I was voting for Eduren to see his alignment, as he defended Vector, and I think Vector is better at scumhunting than him. He had also been lurking at that point, and Spartan looked more like noobtown, in my opinion.
Hhhhhex-cuse me?
1. I am better at scumhunting than Eduren.
2. Both Eduren and I were lurking.
3. You're trying to kill off someone so you might have a chance to possibly see my alignment because you think I'm a valuable asset but you can't be assed to come and get me?
This is sad, Ottofar. We were scumbuddies together, once. You've seen my methods. This is the best you can pull out on short notice? If you wanna know my alignment, then COME GET ME. Don't just sit back there, leaning on your stool, sipping your appletinis. If you want to know what I am, then you'd better come find out--because thinking you'd get intel by picking off Eduren is just insulting.
Here I am. If you have questions for me, ask 'em.
(back briefly before I leave again)
Post by: Org on September 01, 2010, 09:05:09 pm
Post by: webadict on September 01, 2010, 09:06:57 pm
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Pandarsenic - IronyOwl, [1]
Org -
Lonewolf I -
Jokerman-EXE -
Zathras -
Ottofar - Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods, Zathras, [4]
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector - Eduren, [1]
IronyOwl - Pandarsenic, Lonewolf I, ToonyMan, [3]
Eduren - Jokerman-EXE, Ottofar, [2]
ToonyMan - Mysteriousbluepuppet, Org, [2]
Zai -
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 7 to Hammer.
Just kidding. It turns out Zathras did vote for Ottofar. He beats him to death with a BLUNT INSTRUMENT. It was probably the mask that set him off.
Ottofar has been lynched!
Ottofar was Rorscharch (town).
It is now Night. You may change your target accordingly.
Quote
Rorschach
Crazy, masked vigilante, out to make a mark on the world. With a grappling hook.
(Night) Kill [target]: You can render a person incapable of living with your incredible strength.
(Night) Confuse [target]: You can psyche out a player with a psychiatrist-like recanting of what they REALLY want. The player will target a random person.
(Day) Grappling Hook [target]: If a player leaves the scene, you may follow them and bring them back... if they're alive.
(Auto) Illegal: Masked vigilantes are bad. Killing innocent people is worse. Both at once is the worst. Your chance to kill someone is 1 / (# of Town you've killed + 2)
Post by: webadict on September 02, 2010, 11:25:49 pm
Like... missing. What an odd series of events! Will no one solve these clues?!?
Vote Count
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl -
Eduren -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - IronyOwl, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Org, Pandarsenic, Lonewolf I, ToonyMan, Eduren, Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Tuesday at 9 PM Central. 6 to Hammer.
Again. No PM = Action success!
Post by: ToonyMan on September 02, 2010, 11:27:21 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 02, 2010, 11:31:55 pm
I was sledgehammered last night, awesome. Hows it feel scum?
If what my role says is true then mafia don't have a night-kill anymore, how nice right? Let's see what happens tomorrow to confirm this.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 02, 2010, 11:40:02 pm
FAKEEDIT: Ninjaed by Toony. Looks like it's "had a mafiakill" now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 02, 2010, 11:44:48 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 02, 2010, 11:45:51 pm
Post by: Zai on September 02, 2010, 11:59:17 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 12:00:17 am
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 03, 2010, 12:13:21 am
Anywho, I'd be interested in seeing Ironyowl's reply. It seems like a fairly strong bandwagon you guys got going. I would hop on, but I never join in on a three-some unless invited. I am curious, what are the reasons for the three votes right off the bat, excluding Lonewolf- who if we take him at face value can instantly determine is someone is townie or scum.
Lonewolf, who was it you role inspected night before? It seems as though your role is very powerful- an inspector who can just read other people's roles verbatim.
Ah, well, I am willing to defend my townie-hood with my life and honor.What the hell does this mean?
Well it means that I would very much like to prove I am a townie if people doubt me. If it means biting a bullet, I would. However that is neither here nor there.
Zathras said that he was suspicious Toony and Pandersenic buddy'ing and mutual trust, and now he's dead. I find that curious. Toony, what you're saying is that the Scum have no more NK, and yet you were not killed. I find that suspiciously powerful. And if you were targeted as well that would mean that there would have been three night kills last night. That seems very unlikely, that scum and third party could cull the herd that quickly. >:(
Just some musings, for the moment.
Vote Mysteriousbluepuppet, You've been very quiet. Too quiet.
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 12:16:26 am
Wait. So if Toony was targeted for a kill, that means we had 3 potential kills last night. Considering that, does anybody agree that its getting to be MC time?Probably. Especially now that TM's ability has allegedly been activated.
I'll have to consider it more when I'm less tired though.
[PPE:]
Zathras said that he was suspicious Toony and Pandersenic buddy'ing and mutual trust, and now he's dead. I find that curious.Never go there, dude. You do not try and read into NKs. That's like self-inflicted WIFOM.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 03, 2010, 12:21:33 am
[PPE:]Zathras said that he was suspicious Toony and Pandersenic buddy'ing and mutual trust, and now he's dead. I find that curious.Never go there, dude. You do not try and read into NKs. That's like self-inflicted WIFOM.
It is not beyond consideration. I mean, it obviously presents many many issues, but it is not without its standing.
Post by: Org on September 03, 2010, 05:14:52 am
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 03, 2010, 05:50:51 am
Vote Mysteriousbluepuppet, You've been very quiet. Too quiet.
Mostly been sleeping, studying. gotta go to college in an hour , will be back in 8 hour or so, i'll give you answer to any question you want to ask.
But really, you were not really there often too the last day, your reason are ?
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 09:48:29 am
Post by: IronyOwl on September 03, 2010, 12:47:12 pm
I was sledgehammered last night, awesome. Hows it feel scum?This would make three NKs last night. Given that we've already lost a vigilante, I find that suspicious.
If what my role says is true then mafia don't have a night-kill anymore, how nice right? Let's see what happens tomorrow to confirm this.
IronyOwl is definitely scum. I can inspect rolepowers, and I targeted him last night. He has a mafiakill, and the ability to devour his victims, leaving no traces behind (no roleflip, in mechanics terms) until he himself dies. He does get their role when he kills them.That I can explain, oddly enough.
FAKEEDIT: Ninjaed by Toony. Looks like it's "had a mafiakill" now.
I am an Anglerfish. I have a lure that makes me look like a more appealing target to inspects, and am otherwise a sort of knight/war vet combo- 50% chance to survive an NK, 50% chance to eat my NKer. They're independent of each other, if you're curious.
What I'd like you to explain is why the only thing you did all of Day 2 was vote me and run off. There was a question with it, which looked like scumhunting, but not only did you never do anything with it, you chose me for your inspect despite Pandarsenic ignoring it completely, which seems to imply you didn't care about the answer. Combined with the lightning bandwagon, this looks rather suspiciously like you're in on something with TM and Pandar.
Also unusual is that you chose to roleclaim without mentioning your N1 target; I would think clearing a townie would be useful information, but you left it out completely and just mentioned me. Why?
Incidentally, for anyone who hasn't figured it out yet:
Day 1, I call ToonyMan out on refusing to really say anything.
Day 2, I continue calling ToonyMan out and get into my spat with Pandarsenic. ToonyMan declares Pandarsenic town right after Pandar calls me scum. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1527226#msg1527226) For something like the fifth time, but still.
Day 3, lightning bandwagon from both of them. I don't know for a fact that they're scumbuddies, but they sure as hell don't like pressure.
For more ToonyMan goodness, I'd like to point out
Spoiler: Last Post Of Day 1 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: First Post Of Day 2 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Explanation For Change (click to show/hide)
plus the fact that he's refused to scumhunt except by reaction gathering or defend himself except by giving short non-answers until someone gives up. He's also claiming a suspiciously powerful-sounding role, as TheBroodyMoods pointed out.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 01:42:38 pm
My role is a little complex so let me do my best explaining without copy pasting this thing,
I can guard some each night, if the attack is unblockable then I die instead.
If I am NOT guarding someone then I am unkillable.
I also have a one time ability that happens when someone does something to me during the night and I am not guarding someone, it's called short-fuse.
I asked Webadict if I can use short-fuse on night kills and he said yes this was so. I didn't use my guard ability at all because I was hoping mafia would take the bait at sometime which would out weigh the negatives.
Also, last night when I was attacked by a sledgehammer I also got an upgrade to my guard ability, which allows me to guard two people each night, kick ass. It must have been a hidden role power.
And of course IronyOwl makes up random bullshit.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 01:45:01 pm
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 01:45:57 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 01:55:59 pm
Each night I may select a player and upgrade one of their abilities at random.
Each day I may select a dead player and construct a device based on their role. Said device is given to a random player including myself.
Day1: Nothing. No dead peeps yet.
Night1: Gave Zathras an upgrade. Based on a town read.
Day2: Forgot about my power. :-\
Night2: Gave Toony an upgrade. Based on a town read.
Day3: Made a device based upon Zathras. Was not told any info on his role or the device.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 02:17:35 pm
Post by: webadict on September 03, 2010, 02:42:24 pm
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - TheBroodyMoods,
Vector -
IronyOwl - ToonyMan, Lonewolf I, Pandarsenic,
Eduren -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - IronyOwl, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Org, Eduren, Vector, Zai,
Day Ends on Tuesday at 9 PM Central. 6 to Hammer.
Suddenly, you hear a crunching noise coming from IronyOwl! ... *crunch* ... *crunch*
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 02:47:14 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 02:50:21 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on September 03, 2010, 03:16:56 pm
Post by: webadict on September 03, 2010, 03:58:33 pm
Eduren has been killed!
Eduren was Robert Fulton (town).
Votes reset!
Vote Count
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - IronyOwl, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Org, Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods, ToonyMan, Lonewolf I, Pandarsenic,
Day Ends on Tuesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
Quote
Robert Fulton
Inventor and engineer, you are. You developed the steamboat. Props, yo. Congratulations on using the steam engine and putting it on a boat.
(Night) Upgrade [target]: You may upgrade a random ability of a player.
(Day) Investigate [target]: You may investigate a dead player to build a device based on their role. It is given to a random player, including you.
(Auto) Unsuccessful Experiments: You have a certain percent to die after using your first ability that increases each time you use an ability.
(Auto) Go Down With The Sub: You can send one last message to the board after you die.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 04:00:13 pm
IronyOwl.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 03, 2010, 04:03:25 pm
Post by: Org on September 03, 2010, 05:33:30 pm
I am the Old Spice Guy!
I can ODORIZE a target, tracking them, and I am untrackable. I also can do something else, which I will keep to myself.
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 05:51:11 pm
Quick summary: inclined to believe both Toony and Lonewolf, need to look back through the thread for IO's interactions. Only problem is that Toony might be having issues with bastard modding, as the proposed role seems slightly overpowered.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 05:57:02 pm
I wasn't lying.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 03, 2010, 06:43:52 pm
Each night I can analyze someone and deduce ONE of their rolepowers, in full.
N1 I targeted ToonyMan. I can confirm that he has a guard power, and will sacrifice himself instead of his target if the kill is unblockable.
N2 IronyOwl. There's a 'mafiakill' tag on his Devour ability.
I have a one-shot, anytime use ability to immediately recieve the entire role of a player, however I will lose all of my deductive powers afterwards, effectively leaving me a vanilla townie. I have not used it yet.
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 06:51:56 pm
WEB, could we get a clarification as to whether Ed dying was caused by an Unsuccessful Experiment? Yes or no question here. I somehow doubt you'll respond, though.
I am Antoine Dodson.
Every night, I can Hide someone. When hidden, they cannot act or be acted upon.
My Auto ability is that if someone visits me in the night, I identify who they were.
More people need to roleclaim before I reveal my action for Night 1, as it could maybe possibly be incriminating for one person or two depending on what they say. Maybe. People such as VECTOR, MYSTERIOUSBLUEPUPPET, THEBROODYMOODS, and PANDARSENIC.
And yeah, Org tracked me last night. I did not action Night 2.
Also:
Quote from: Ed's role
(Auto) Go Down With The Sub: You can send one last message to the board after you die.Make it worth it, Ed. Don't waste it on something pathetic.
Would anybody like to claim receiving the Zathras contraption Ed made or day-killing Ed? And for that matter, would anybody like to claim making IO go "crunch crunch"?
I may come back to IO in a bit. I gotta do some stuff right quick.
[PPE:]
Spoiler: Mafia role from BYOR 3 (click to show/hide)
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 03, 2010, 06:59:21 pm
At night I can Inspect people; if they're town, however, they turn into a My Little Pony with no powers.
I have an auto Impale, which causes me to kill whoever attempts to kill me.
I have a 1-use Pegasus ability, which makes me immune to all actions and unlynchable for one phase.
Pegasus does not interfere with Impale. I have not used Pegasus yet. Impale DOES respond to lynches.
N1 I inspected Vector and was unable to find her. N2 I inspected Jokerman-EXE and found him to be town. Except he died, herp derp.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 03, 2010, 07:00:32 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 03, 2010, 07:20:57 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 03, 2010, 07:22:24 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 03, 2010, 07:44:02 pm
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 07:46:26 pm
Theory: The invention-off-a-dead-guy is a day action. Perhaps the crunching from IronyOwl was an attempt to invent off someone he ate?
Oh wait, I get it. I guess it makes sense: Crunch comes from IO because Ed is rumbling around his insides to get to Zathras.
More on Zathras's scummitude: His power of hiding but seeing his "NKers'"/own-NK-victims' roles is weird, considering he hasn't shared any roles with us. Why would town not share the roles of dead people?
IO: Did you eat Zathras? If so, what was his role?
PANDAR: Why did you wait so long to RC? You posted right after the Vote Reset.
Also. I might as well and go ahead and claim my actions:
Night 1: I attempted to Hide Vector, but she was already nowhere to be found. In other words: Her not being available for Pandar to target was not my doing.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 03, 2010, 07:50:13 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on September 03, 2010, 07:59:26 pm
More on Zathras's scummitude: His power of hiding but seeing his "NKers'"/own-NK-victims' roles is weird, considering he hasn't shared any roles with us. Why would town not share the roles of dead people?I think I missed something. Did you mean someone else?
IO: Did you eat Zathras? If so, what was his role?I did not.
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 08:18:41 pm
...Yes, I meant you, IO. I redid that part of the post so many times because it kept getting deleted I eventually started putting Zathras instead of you.More on Zathras's scummitude: His power of hiding but seeing his "NKers'"/own-NK-victims' roles is weird, considering he hasn't shared any roles with us. Why would town not share the roles of dead people?I think I missed something. Did you mean someone else?
IO: Have you eaten anyone?
Post by: IronyOwl on September 03, 2010, 08:37:35 pm
IO: Have you eaten anyone?I have not. Presumably you're going to want to know why.
The first reason is that murdering people at random and then saying "just trust me guys he was scum" three days later struck me as very town unfriendly. If it was a normal NK I could see killing someone I was certain of, but there was just no way to do it without making people think we had a SK or roleclaiming immediately and then assuring everyone I could be trusted to report my ruthless murders accurately. Add in all the other powers likely to be in a BYOR and the potential to hurt more than help seemed high.
The second reason is that nobody seemed to be agreeing with me- in fact, Vector and Eduren pegged ToonyMan as town for reasons I can't begin to fathom. I'm fairly arrogant, but when nobody agrees with something I think is obvious, it's time to stop before "oops, but I'm SURE of the next one" becomes a habit.
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 08:42:01 pm
...Did you just admit to lying about your roleclaim? You said in your RC that you eating people was triggered randomly (50% chance of happening) when someone attempted to NK you. Now you're saying that you have the ability to NK?IO: Have you eaten anyone?I have not. Presumably you're going to want to know why.
The first reason is that murdering people at random and then saying "just trust me guys he was scum" three days later struck me as very town unfriendly. If it was a normal NK I could see killing someone I was certain of, but there was just no way to do it without making people think we had a SK or roleclaiming immediately and then assuring everyone I could be trusted to report my ruthless murders accurately. Add in all the other powers likely to be in a BYOR and the potential to hurt more than help seemed high.
The second reason is that nobody seemed to be agreeing with me- in fact, Vector and Eduren pegged ToonyMan as town for reasons I can't begin to fathom. I'm fairly arrogant, but when nobody agrees with something I think is obvious, it's time to stop before "oops, but I'm SURE of the next one" becomes a habit.
...Yeah...I think this Day is pretty much done as far as the lynching is concerned. You gotta stay consistent with your fakeclaim, dude. Now we just need the rest of the people to RC and we'll be ready to hammer you.
Post by: Org on September 03, 2010, 08:43:13 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on September 03, 2010, 08:50:36 pm
I meant in addition to Lonewolf's mention of my nightkill. I haven't been attacked by anyone either.
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 09:06:03 pm
Org, my only friend. :-[Don't use emoticons, scumface. They won't save you.
I meant in addition to Lonewolf's mention of my nightkill. I haven't been attacked by anyone either.
You didn't roleclaim a NK. FUCK UP LESS NEXT TIME, SCUMBUCKET. This was what you RCed:
IronyOwl is definitely scum. I can inspect rolepowers, and I targeted him last night. He has a mafiakill, and the ability to devour his victims, leaving no traces behind (no roleflip, in mechanics terms) until he himself dies. He does get their role when he kills them.That I can explain, oddly enough.
FAKEEDIT: Ninjaed by Toony. Looks like it's "had a mafiakill" now.
I am an Anglerfish. I have a lure that makes me look like a more appealing target to inspects, and am otherwise a sort of knight/war vet combo- 50% chance to survive an NK, 50% chance to eat my NKer. They're independent of each other, if you're curious.
Oh, and from the same post:
Coming from a guy who now appears to be retcon-claiming Vig, I find the "suspicion" of TM claiming there were a total of (at least) 3 NKs last night after we had last at least one Vig die already highly suspect.I was sledgehammered last night, awesome. Hows it feel scum?This would make three NKs last night. Given that we've already lost a vigilante, I find that suspicious.
If what my role says is true then mafia don't have a night-kill anymore, how nice right? Let's see what happens tomorrow to confirm this.
EVERYONE: Can we please hold off on more votes until everybody claims? It's only 2 more to hammer.
Post by: webadict on September 03, 2010, 09:11:20 pm
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl - ToonyMan, Pandarsenic, Org,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - IronyOwl, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods, Lonewolf I,
Day Ends on Tuesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 09:36:17 pm
I am the Classical Elements (i.e. water, fire, earth, air, and sometimes aether). I have three one-shot abilities and an auto-thing.
Earth (day ability, one-shot): one-shot magistrate (self and other). Unused.
Fire (auto): Hidden. No idea. I'm guessing it's something destructive, though, just from the name.
Wind: (night ability): One-shot inspection. Used it on Broody last night, who came up town.
Water (night ability): One-shot self-hide. Used N1.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 03, 2010, 10:43:34 pm
Vote Mysteriousbluepuppet, You've been very quiet. Too quiet.
Mostly been sleeping, studying. gotta go to college in an hour , will be back in 8 hour or so, i'll give you answer to any question you want to ask.
But really, you were not really there often too the last day, your reason are ?
Touche, I have been busy much the same as you have. Also, find the sheer numbers of posts and people overwhelming.
Samneric, Town.
Sam + Eric- Once killed I pop up good as new.
Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.
Post by: Zai on September 04, 2010, 12:11:18 am
Also, find the sheer numbers of posts and people overwhelming.Dude. We're down to 9 people, of which you are a part. Making it 8 other people. THAT'S NOT A LOT, MAN.
Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.I assume you already have done so? Or does forming it get rid of your Revive? Can only Townies be recruited? If not, does recruiting people reveal their alignment to you?
This sounds suspicious is why I ask.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 04, 2010, 01:15:56 am
Theory: The invention-off-a-dead-guy is a day action. Perhaps the crunching from IronyOwl was an attempt to invent off someone he ate?Wait what? He claims to only hide their role PM, not take their rolepower.
Oh wait, I get it. I guess it makes sense: Crunch comes from IO because Ed is rumbling around his insides to get to Zathras.
More on Zathras's scummitude: His power of hiding but seeing his "NKers'"/own-NK-victims' roles is weird, considering he hasn't shared any roles with us. Why would town not share the roles of dead people?
IO: Did you eat Zathras? If so, what was his role?
PANDAR: Why did you wait so long to RC? You posted right after the Vote Reset.
Also. I might as well and go ahead and claim my actions:
Night 1: I attempted to Hide Vector, but she was already nowhere to be found. In other words: Her not being available for Pandar to target was not my doing.
I waited because I wasn't sure if not finding Vector meant she was scum or something else; when you posted your ability, it made sense.
Until it didn't.
Until it did again.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 04, 2010, 06:21:08 am
Post by: Vector on September 04, 2010, 04:06:11 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 04, 2010, 04:14:55 pm
I find Org's not voting IO until after he screwed up his fakeclaim to be suspicious. Innocent until proven guilty is not his style. I sense bussing.
Will post again in a moment. Checking roleclaims before further analysis.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 04, 2010, 04:21:41 pm
Also, find the sheer numbers of posts and people overwhelming.Dude. We're down to 9 people, of which you are a part. Making it 8 other people. THAT'S NOT A LOT, MAN.Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.I assume you already have done so? Or does forming it get rid of your Revive? Can only Townies be recruited? If not, does recruiting people reveal their alignment to you?
This sounds suspicious is why I ask.
I'm going to be out for the rest of the night.
First: we had 12 folks yesterday, that's a large number of people. For- for me anyway. I'll try to be more active, as 9 people is much more manageable.
Second: It reveals that I am town but I do not get to know if the other person is town. I can recruit anyone, so it's entirely hunch based.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 04, 2010, 04:34:06 pm
ToonyMan - Shizo Heiwajima - Some sort of epic guard
Lonewolf I - Mentat - Role inspector
IronyOwl - Angelfish - Failclaim
Org - Old Spice Guy - Tracker
Zai - Antoine Dodson - Combo guard/roleblocker
Pandar - Angry Unicorn - Nullifying inspector/warvet/1use Invulnerable
Mysteriousbluepuppet - The Bomber - When in doubt...C4
Vector - Classical Elements - Limited JoaT w/secret power
TheBroodyMoods - Samneric - One-shot reviver/mason seed
With that in mind, let's shorten and rid ourselves of this ironically angelic menace.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 04, 2010, 04:37:53 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 04, 2010, 04:38:13 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 04, 2010, 04:39:38 pm
Need to remember this and BYOT are hammer games.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 04, 2010, 04:40:10 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 04, 2010, 04:40:56 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on September 04, 2010, 04:55:13 pm
Yes, I am lying scum. Your friends were delicious. Well done!
Post by: ToonyMan on September 04, 2010, 05:02:34 pm
Post by: webadict on September 04, 2010, 05:24:37 pm
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl - ToonyMan, Pandarsenic, Org, Lonewolf I,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - IronyOwl, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Tuesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer. 1 Shorten Requested.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 04, 2010, 05:31:08 pm
Now someone hammer this guy and end the day.
Post by: IronyOwl on September 04, 2010, 05:33:45 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 04, 2010, 05:43:39 pm
Happy now ?
Post by: webadict on September 04, 2010, 05:52:53 pm
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
IronyOwl - ToonyMan, Pandarsenic, Org, Lonewolf I, Mysteriousbluepuppet, [5]
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - IronyOwl, Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Tuesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer. 1 Shorten Requested.
The last vote falls on IronyOwl, and the group turns on him. His razor-sharp teeth form an evil grin, and he hypnotizes the group with his lure.
He turns to flee only to have a really bad stomachache and vomits everywhere. For some strange reason, this kills him. Disgustingly, you search through the vomit, finding chunks of... bleh. Everything, really.
Inside, however, is Zathras! Seems he was killed and being preserved in his stomach. Well, as killed as a God of the Sun can get, anyhow.
You clean up the mess and head on home, satisfied with your find.
But, wait... Where's the other two?
IronyOwl has been lynched!
IronyOwl was an Anglerfish (mafia).
Zathras has been found dead!
Zathras was Ra, God of Sun (town).
It is now Night.
Quote
Anglerfish
If fish can dream, they have nightmares of you, luring them from their safe homes and devouring them. You are very distracting and ridiculously scary, which will hopefully lead to your success in the mafia.
(Day) Crunch [target]: You can crunch up the bones of a dead player you've Devoured to make the body impossible to identify and removing them from your stomach. However, people will hear a crunching noise coming from your direction.
(Night, Mafiakill) Devour [target]: Eats and removes the body of the player you kill, so that the player's identity will not be revealed until you die. As well, players may not target those dead players. You are told what role the player you killed was.
(Auto) Lure: If a player targets you, they may not be roleblocked or redirected.
Quote
Ra, God of Sun
You control Night and Day. Well, you control the sun, which controls Night and Day, so kinda in an indirect way.
(1-Use) Solar Reset: The Mandjet makes a double shift, skipping the next Night Phase.
(1-Use) Solar Skip: The Mesektet comes early, dragging the sun back before it can show its face. The next Day Phase is skipped.
(1-Use) Resurrection: You can resurrect a dead player once you have used both of your Solar powers.
Post by: webadict on September 05, 2010, 08:36:49 am
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Pandarsenic -
Org -
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods, ToonyMan, Pandarsenic, Org, Lonewolf I, Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
You wake up to find that... no one is missing (Well, besides Jokerman-EXE and Toaster...) Sad. No, wait. That's good! Sometimes you feel silly for your random mistakes. You should probably kill them all for this.
It is now Day.
Again, no PM = Successful.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 08:38:27 am
Pay the piper Org. You're my next biggest target.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 05, 2010, 08:56:21 am
Got nothing. Pandar decided to inspect me. I'm now Baby Cuddles, I have no powers, and Pandar is a prick.
So, Pandar - Why the hell did you do that? I hadn't even used my 1-shot yet!!!
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 09:02:00 am
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 05, 2010, 09:03:22 am
Post by: Org on September 05, 2010, 09:44:20 am
Post by: Org on September 05, 2010, 09:45:40 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 09:47:35 am
I targeted toonyman. It showed he targeted Moody and Lonewolf.That would be because I guarded both of them.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 05, 2010, 12:54:39 pm
I'm pretty sure he did it so that if you came up town then both you and Broody would be 100% confirmed town.Word.
Also, fucking called it on IronyOwl.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 05, 2010, 12:55:18 pm
I'm pretty sure he did it so that if you came up town then both you and Broody would be 100% confirmed town.Word.
Also, fucking called it on IronyOwl.
Derp, got caught up gloating at the dead. Lonewolf I and Broody are now confirmed town.
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 12:56:41 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 12:58:25 pm
Hold on. Confused about something. Checking with Web.Never mind. I stupidly abstained from hide-blocking anybody again.
Whatever.
Org. You're my next biggest target.Why?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 01:10:14 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 01:26:01 pm
After IronyOwl I think Org is the biggest suspect.BUT WHY? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? IT IS DAY 4 MOTHERFUCKER. NO "dere isnt n e" EXCUSES.
I'm not confirmed but I have a really high probability of being town....What does that even mean?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 01:28:38 pm
Org is scum mostly because nobody else can be, unless you are.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 01:29:39 pm
You argue with me and I don't give two fucks.
Post by: Org on September 05, 2010, 02:25:41 pm
I have done nothing.
IF NO ONE ELSE THAN ME CAN BE SCUM, THAT MEANS WE HAVE SEVEN CONFIRMED TOWN. I DONT THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN EASILY.
What does Vector have to say?
Post by: webadict on September 05, 2010, 03:17:42 pm
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Pandarsenic -
Org - ToonyMan, Lonewolf I,
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector - Org,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Not Voting - Vector, Zai, TheBroodyMoods, Pandarsenic, Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 03:36:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 05, 2010, 03:38:15 pm
Wow this is stupid. Just going to say Toonyman, we should lynch you for being stupid.Do you think Vector is scum or are you just freaking out?
I have done nothing.
IF NO ONE ELSE THAN ME CAN BE SCUM, THAT MEANS WE HAVE SEVEN CONFIRMED TOWN. I DONT THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN EASILY.
What does Vector have to say?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 03:38:39 pm
Would be a good idea to know who protected who, give us an insight on who was supposed to get NKed ?I protected Lonewolf and Broody and I have no idea what you're saying for the second part. Do you know who was suppose to be NKed BluePuppet?
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 03:42:48 pm
I am the the Bomber. I will explode on death killing the last to vote for me or the mafia if it's a NK. Also had a one use that set up a trap if i'm to be killed to protect me and kill the attacker. used it stupidly on the first round....Does no one else find this suspicious? Whatever.
Alright. Going through RCs:
THEBROODYMOODS: Did you or did you not already form a Mason group? Is it a Night, Day, or Either action?Second: It reveals that I am town but I do not get to know if the other person is town. I can recruit anyone, so it's entirely hunch based.Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.I assume you already have done so? Or does forming it get rid of your Revive? Can only Townies be recruited? If not, does recruiting people reveal their alignment to you?
This sounds suspicious is why I ask.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 03:43:55 pm
Mafia has not tried to kill anybody
Mafia as tried killing someone but it did not work, so that person was hidden/protected.
If someone protected another good chances are that person could be town. Clearly it's not foolproof but it is usefull info. Can already say i have not used my smoke bomb, so I was not targeted or someone protected me.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 03:44:27 pm
Are you playing stupid on purpose?
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 05, 2010, 03:48:24 pm
I did. It sounds like he just copied my Impale ability, first of all, and second is that he clearly didn't give us the whole thing if:I am the the Bomber. I will explode on death killing the last to vote for me or the mafia if it's a NK. Also had a one use that set up a trap if i'm to be killed to protect me and kill the attacker. used it stupidly on the first round....Does no one else find this suspicious? Whatever.
Can already say i have not used my smoke bomb, so I was not targeted or someone protected me.
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 03:49:01 pm
..There wasn't a night-kill last night Zai.That doesn't clear YOU. If you lied about them losing their NK, and you are the last scum, then you could have simply refrained from NKing. I have no clue what you could have been doing with the people you "guarded." I'm just saying that I don't remember you being cleared for having told the truth by someone else.
Also, hold on. Clearing or condemning Org. Waiting on Web.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 03:50:16 pm
If Org isn't scum, you are definitely scum Zai.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 03:50:49 pm
You have gained an ability. I believe it is the power upgrade Robert Fulton could give
Post by: ToonyMan on September 05, 2010, 03:51:38 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 03:52:27 pm
If Org isn't scum, you are definitely scum Zai.Why's that?
[PPE:] What's the ability?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 03:54:33 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 03:58:34 pm
The smoke bomb I talked. earlier. make me untargetable/hidden for a phase.What is this even in response to?
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 03:59:07 pm
If Org isn't scum, you are definitely scum Zai.Why's that?
[PPE:] What's the ability?
That.
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 04:00:46 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 04:13:50 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 04:22:19 pm
Okay. I had a 1-shot ability that I did not tell y'all about until I hinted at it a few posts ago. It allowed me to Chase Down anybody who targeted me at Night. Only person who had targeted me was Org. So, I PMed Web a bit ago to tell him to use my ability. I just got a response, and lo and behold...
Nothing. I went to Org's house, but it wasn't Org's house. Web said I'm unable to find Org at this time.
Now, I had asked Web previously a few questions about Chase Down. All he had said was it was guaranteed true as long as the player had nothing hiding their alignment.
ORG: Does that ability you didn't tell us about hide your alignment? Because that's a really shitty ability for town.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 05, 2010, 04:24:50 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 04:30:32 pm
What exactly does Chase Down do?I thought I said it, but I guess I didn't. You could probably infer it by looking at the last sentence before I addressed Org:
Chase Down let me inspect the alignment of someone who targeted me at Night. It went along with my Auto ability of knowing who targeted me at Night.
And now Web has responded to a few questions I had about it not working: My 1-shot is gone, and it wasn't because I waited too long to inspect him. So I'm thinking Org has an ability that hides his alignment or something.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 05:11:00 pm
Why would you do that , anyway?
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 07:12:11 pm
Also Org, you said you had another ability that you kept to yourself ?I did too, so I'll answer as well, but from my perspective.
Why would you do that , anyway?
I was hoping more people would target me in the night. Preferably scum. But nobody did. I held back on telling about my 1-shot because I didn't think scum would target me with non-NK abilities if they knew I could possibly tell their alignment. But not sharing it didn't help with that at all. And now my 1-shot is wasted.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 07:41:51 pm
Also, where is everybody ? it's sunday, there's nothing interesting anywhere !
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 07:46:24 pm
Also, where is everybody ? it's sunday, there's nothing interesting anywhere !Labor Day weekend in USA. A lot of people get tomorrow (Labor Day) off, so a lot of people go on mini-vacations over this weekend.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 05, 2010, 07:57:03 pm
Post by: Vector on September 05, 2010, 08:01:55 pm
IF NO ONE ELSE THAN ME CAN BE SCUM, THAT MEANS WE HAVE SEVEN CONFIRMED TOWN. I DONT THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN EASILY.
What does Vector have to say?
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SEVEN CONFIRMED TOWN, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO A REREAD ON ACTIONS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
Give it some time--I'm hanging out with my dad before he leaves for Kazakhstan again.
Post by: Org on September 05, 2010, 08:44:54 pm
...No. As I understand, Web correct me in a PM if I am wrong, but it only hides me from being tracked.
Okay. I had a 1-shot ability that I did not tell y'all about until I hinted at it a few posts ago. It allowed me to Chase Down anybody who targeted me at Night. Only person who had targeted me was Org. So, I PMed Web a bit ago to tell him to use my ability. I just got a response, and lo and behold...
Nothing. I went to Org's house, but it wasn't Org's house. Web said I'm unable to find Org at this time.
Now, I had asked Web previously a few questions about Chase Down. All he had said was it was guaranteed true as long as the player had nothing hiding their alignment.
ORG: Does that ability you didn't tell us about hide your alignment? Because that's a really shitty ability for town.
My one-shot is really dumb. It only helps with claiming. I get to see everyone who targeted me the night I use it.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 05, 2010, 08:47:49 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 05, 2010, 10:04:33 pm
Post by: Zai on September 05, 2010, 10:13:15 pm
I'm thinking Mysteriousbluepuppet or TheBroodyMoods. Still waiting on his response to my questions a bit ago.
Everybody: Be aware, we are now up to 3 people on Org. Please don't hammer until TBM shows up and answers my questions.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 09:06:02 am
You're second most suspicous for flipping the fuck out everyhere.If Org isn't scum, you are definitely scum Zai.Why's that?
Also Zai, BROODY IS CONFIRMED TOON, stop being a moron.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 09:06:47 am
I meant town.
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 09:09:29 am
Org is probably the last scum.Im really loving the wagon guys.
Pandar.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 09:18:56 am
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 11:35:54 am
So why are you voting him?Org is probably the last scum.Im really loving the wagon guys.
Pandar.
TM: I'm not "flipping the fuck out everywhere."
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 11:36:46 am
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 11:43:46 am
Uh huh, yeah you can't just say no. You have to have evidence.Nope. You're the one who has to have evidence to back up your ridiculous claims. So get some or get out.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 11:58:48 am
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 12:02:32 pm
You're making posts that don't make sense if you've actually been reading the gameFair enough. I have a bad memory, and I forgot a lot after the transition to Day 4.
you're freaking out over everything this whole day, and you're being highly defensive.Now that's the stuff you'd need to provide evidence for.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 12:06:48 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 01:00:31 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 01:03:51 pm
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 01:04:39 pm
Derp herp.
Post by: Vector on September 06, 2010, 01:10:54 pm
I always thought you loved voting Org as well Zai, what's holding you back now?
Wait, are you seriously trying to press Zai into voting Org just because ... you think Zai's scum? This doesn't even make sense.
If Org isn't scum, you are definitely scum Zai.
And then there's this... setting up lynches, or something? Whatever it is, it doesn't look good and, in context with your complete dearth of scum-hunting throughout this game, I'm going to have to vote ToonyMan.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 01:12:42 pm
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 01:18:50 pm
I always thought you loved voting Org as well Zai, what's holding you back now?The fact I don't see him as scum?
Anyway, I think I shall go back and look for some reads on people.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 01:21:29 pm
Post by: Vector on September 06, 2010, 01:25:08 pm
You don't think Org is scum? I find that hard to believe. That is a lie Zai and town shouldn't lie.
DUDE WHAT THE HELL, mate?
Does... does no one else see this? Yeah, I thought he was town, but... this! Come fricking on.
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 01:57:39 pm
Sounds scummy.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 06, 2010, 02:33:01 pm
You don't think Org is scum? I find that hard to believe. That is a lie Zai and town shouldn't lie.
DUDE WHAT THE HELL, mate?
Does... does no one else see this? Yeah, I thought he was town, but... this! Come fricking on.
I lol'd.
Pandar is lurking and bandwagoning.
Sounds scummy.
Cry some moaaaaaaaaaaaaar
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 02:48:10 pm
Also. From Ottofar's role PM:
Quote
(Day) Grappling Hook [target]: If a player leaves the scene, you may follow them and bring them back... if they're alive....Does this mean that one of the people who are "missing" might be alive? Remember, N2, we had 2 people go missing (Zathras and Joker). Only one is confirmed to have died (Zathras), and IO only "crunched" up the body of another (presumably Toaster, the sole missing person of N1). And nobody claimed getting rid of Joker.
WAIT. I just realized something. N2, we had 2 missing people: Joker and Zathras. After IO was lynched, we got Zathras's body, meaning scum definitely killed him that night. But if TM's telling the truth about him getting rid of somebody's NK on N2, then that would mean that scum had at least 2 NKs. Nobody's claimed having the ability to kill (though an SK wouldn't...), so we actually had at least 2 scum Kills (possibly 3 if Joker going missing wasn't part of his own role).
EVERYBODY: Would anybody like to claim a NK they didn't tell us about, that may or may not be gone now?
Fire (auto): Hidden. No idea. I'm guessing it's something destructive, though, just from the name.Why would Web tell you about a Hidden ability? That doesn't make sense, Vector. In BYOR 3, if you had Hidden attributes they were damn well hidden from you. As in, you weren't even told about them! And EVERYBODY else in this game was told all of their powers, so why would you be an exception?
WEB: When Eduren died, it said he was killed. Was that just generic flavor or relevant to how he died?
Post by: Vector on September 06, 2010, 02:58:54 pm
Fire (auto): Hidden. No idea. I'm guessing it's something destructive, though, just from the name.Why would Web tell you about a Hidden ability? That doesn't make sense, Vector. In BYOR 3, if you had Hidden attributes they were damn well hidden from you. As in, you weren't even told about them! And EVERYBODY else in this game was told all of their powers, so why would you be an exception?
That's a good question. I think I used the wrong terminology when I said "hidden," though, because I was saying "hidden" as in "effect hidden from me." Like "secret voter," whatever. All I meant is that I have an auto thing under "fire," and I was told "I'm not telling you what that does."
Why would I be an exception? I dunno. There are exceptions to rules, sometimes. Why does Pandarsenic always roll up Secret Voter, and tend to be the only one? Dunno.
All I know is what my role PM said. I can't argue with the truth.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 03:02:04 pm
Post by: webadict on September 06, 2010, 03:25:53 pm
WEB: When Eduren died, it said he was killed. Was that just generic flavor or relevant to how he died?Generic flavor. There's only two flavors: killed and suicide (When they die that time). Zathras' was different in that he was found dead.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 04:14:50 pm
THEBROODYMOODS: Did you or did you not already form a Mason group? Is it a Night, Day, or Either action?Second: It reveals that I am town but I do not get to know if the other person is town. I can recruit anyone, so it's entirely hunch based.Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.I assume you already have done so? Or does forming it get rid of your Revive? Can only Townies be recruited? If not, does recruiting people reveal their alignment to you?
This sounds suspicious is why I ask.
I did in fact form a mason group with Vector. She claimed the same role that she did here. I have no reason, thus far, to doubt that she's town.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 04:47:51 pm
With that, I also find it odd that IronyOwl just gave up. I mean, at a certain point, yeah- call the day to an end.
I'm just postulating, honestly.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 05:03:12 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 06, 2010, 05:32:23 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 07:35:26 pm
Have anybody to vote?
I assume, that means you think it's preposterous. I don't expect you to have a magic bullet, but I at least expect you to response with more than a sentence.
Toony
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 07:37:04 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 06, 2010, 07:48:36 pm
Post by: webadict on September 06, 2010, 08:08:09 pm
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Pandarsenic - Org,
Org - ToonyMan, Lonewolf I, Pandarsenic,
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector - Zai,
ToonyMan - Vector, TheBroodyMoods,
Zai -
Not Voting - Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 06, 2010, 09:07:10 pm
Org ability is much more suited for Scum than town, and i did not like him keeping one of his power to himself.
Toonyman does not make a whole lot of sense, but as of now i'm not really surprised by that. His role make some sense but i does seem quite powerfull.
Vector Element are a bit weird, especially a unknow power. i don't remember seeing anybody having a power that they did not know about ( if somebody else got somethnig like that and i'm wrong, do feel free to remeber it to me). It feels weird to me but apart from that i don't have anything against you.
The Broody, keep on townin' man
For th others, i'd need to read out before.
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 09:24:39 pm
No. As I understand, Web correct me in a PM if I am wrong, but it only hides me from being tracked.Wait. Why would you not share this? What was the logic behind that?
My one-shot is really dumb. It only helps with claiming. I get to see everyone who targeted me the night I use it.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 10:15:40 pm
That doesn't make any sense Broody, I was asking if you were going to vote someone. So you vote me for asking.
The entire post dealt with you, and to some much smaller extent IronyOwl, and your immediate response was to ask for a vote. I think I voiced my suspicions heavily enough that you'd be the only one surprised that I voted for you when prodded.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 06, 2010, 10:16:26 pm
Because he's scum and/or that's not really what he does.No. As I understand, Web correct me in a PM if I am wrong, but it only hides me from being tracked.Wait. Why would you not share this? What was the logic behind that?
My one-shot is really dumb. It only helps with claiming. I get to see everyone who targeted me the night I use it.
PPE: Actually, TBM, I'm pretty surprised too - Toony was one of the few people who supported my crusade against IronyOwl BEFORE the claim failure.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 10:22:26 pm
PPE: Actually, TBM, I'm pretty surprised too - Toony was one of the few people who supported my crusade against IronyOwl BEFORE the claim failure.
I would suggest that he threw his scum buddy under the buss. I am sure he'll attest otherwise, but the thing I cannot reconcile is that THREE people were targeted for a kill action on a single night and suddenly there are NO kill actions anymore. I just don't know that it would just block every flavor of kill action.
I'm predicting that kill actions will come back tonight if we don't kill the last scum today, and it might even be two kill actions. If I am wrong, which is entirely possible, I'll make eat the collective hats of everyone in this Mafia game.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 06, 2010, 10:23:58 pm
...If I am wrong, which is entirely possible, I'llmakeeat the collective hats of everyone in this Mafia game.
Apologies, I've been sloppy as of late.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 06, 2010, 10:24:09 pm
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 10:28:59 pm
Really, Pandar?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 10:30:30 pm
the thing I cannot reconcile is that THREE people were targeted for a kill action on a single nightEh. As I said, I think Joker was able to take himself out of the game with his role. He went missing; we don't know he died.
[PPE:] ORG. WHY DID YOU NOT INCLUDE YOUR ABILITIES IN YOUR ROLECLAIM? THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THEM NOT TO BE INCLUDED, YOU FUCK.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 06, 2010, 10:32:35 pm
How?Weird roleclaim, someone else mentioned your reluctance to vote IronyOwl until it was beyond obvious he was scum, poor response to being voted. The fact that you haven't voted Toony just to tie it is the only reason I'm uncertain.
Really, Pandar?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also, I don't think I blocked you on Steam. I just haven't been on for over a week because my gaming laptop is in maintenance.
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 10:42:43 pm
I had a suspiscion that it was one of you, Zai, or Toony, which is why I only tracked the three of you. Or I tracked Vector one night. I haven't paid too muvh attention to Vector either, seeing that Vector is lurking like when I first started playing mafia.
Im not sure how my response is weird. Im mad that Toony isnt giving sufficient reasonings for his lynch.
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 10:45:46 pm
Asked twice already. Still no response.
ORG: Why did you not include those abilities (the ones you waited to share) in your roleclaim?
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 10:53:59 pm
Derp.
You mean, the single ability. I guess I could have said it and we could have planned a claim for some people, I thought that would get messy fast, as then the traitor could just kill me or whoever.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 06, 2010, 10:55:41 pm
Herp.
Derp.
You mean, the single ability. I guess I could have said it and we could have planned a claim for some people, I thought that would get messy fast, as then the traitor could just kill me or whoever.
Words can't express how inadequate that answer is. At all. You're way too self-preservation-focused.
Tell me, Org, are you town?
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 11:04:59 pm
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 11:06:43 pm
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 11:08:22 pm
Post by: Zai on September 06, 2010, 11:10:05 pm
Post by: Org on September 06, 2010, 11:13:43 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 07, 2010, 02:11:17 pm
I'm predicting that kill actions will come back tonight if we don't kill the last scum today, and it might even be two kill actions. If I am wrong, which is entirely possible, I'll make eat the collective hats of everyone in this Mafia game.You seem too sure of yourself.
Post by: webadict on September 07, 2010, 08:06:56 pm
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Pandarsenic - Org,
Org - ToonyMan, Lonewolf I, Pandarsenic, Zai,
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
ToonyMan - Vector, TheBroodyMoods,
Zai -
Not Voting - Mysteriousbluepuppet,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 07, 2010, 08:09:28 pm
Org Sorry man. Scum in hell.
Post by: webadict on September 07, 2010, 08:16:24 pm
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Pandarsenic - Org, [1]
Org - ToonyMan, Lonewolf I, Pandarsenic, Zai, Mysteriousbluepuppet, [5]
Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
ToonyMan - Vector, TheBroodyMoods, [2]
Zai -
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 5 to Hammer.
And with that, you turn on the delicious smelling man. He's just... so good smelling!
He's just too good smelling to live. He makes the rest of you slobs look like... slobs. Of the slobbish kind. You kill him. Too bad he was town.
Org has been lynched!
Org was Old Spice Guy (town).
It is now Night.
Quote
Old Spice Guy
"The man that this man smells like."
(Night) Odorize [target]: You can attach a scent to a player and find who he targeted last Night.
(Auto) Deordorized: You are untrackable because of how good you smell like.
(Night, 1-Use) Old Spice Man: You can see who smells like you after the Night. Surely, these people acted on you or someone that acted on someone that smells like you (from actioning you or someone that smells like you.)
Post by: webadict on September 07, 2010, 09:18:06 pm
Wait a second... Is that Jokerman-EXE?!? He seems to have returned to the game! WHA?!? x2!
... WHA?!?
Pandarsenic has gone missing!
Jokerman-EXE has returned!
Vote Count
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Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet -
Vector -
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Jokerman-EXE -
Not Voting - ToonyMan, Lonewolf I, Zai, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Vector, TheBroodyMoods, Jokerman-EXE,
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 4 to Hammer.
It is now Day.
Post by: Zai on September 07, 2010, 09:23:20 pm
JOKER: Where were you? You need to roleclaim.
EVERYBODY: Claim night actions. I once again didn't do anything. And does anybody want to claim making Pandar go missing?
Post by: Vector on September 07, 2010, 09:24:10 pm
Jokerman, who do you think is scum?
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 07, 2010, 09:25:09 pm
Although, I think I need to start getting everyone's hat's in order so I may eat them. Damnit. =/
Post by: ToonyMan on September 07, 2010, 09:38:41 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 07, 2010, 09:49:59 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 07, 2010, 09:51:49 pm
Web, is it missing as in dead or missing as in just not here right now ?
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 07, 2010, 09:53:10 pm
Did he get a chance to MLP anybody else? It had priority over my inspection. It might have had priority over the kidnapping.
Post by: webadict on September 07, 2010, 09:56:56 pm
Web, is it missing as in dead or missing as in just not here right now ?Please bold/underline/ALL CAPS my name when asking a question.
And missing means they aren't here.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 07, 2010, 09:58:29 pm
Web, is it missing as in dead or missing as in just not here right now ?Please bold/underline/ALL CAPS my name when asking a question.
And missing means they aren't here.
Thank you, and my bad.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 07, 2010, 10:51:41 pm
JOKER: Where were you? You need to roleclaim.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
I got a PM saying that everything went black in the night and I lost my role which was fuckin' awesome. I couldn't post or interact with anyone. Now I'm "Baby Tic-Tac-Toe" and I have no abilities. I've got no clue what happened, but there's someone out there that's hiding some kind of Kidnap ability that also steals roles. It's possible that that's a one-shot, because that seems a little unbalanced, but I feel like that person is scum.
Vector: MysteriousBluePuppet or Lonewolf I. Both seem pretty suspicious based on my observing of yesterday. What are your suspicions?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 07, 2010, 10:56:03 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 07, 2010, 11:42:40 pm
JOKER: Where were you? You need to roleclaim.I got a PM saying that everything went black in the night and I lost my role which was fuckin' awesome. I couldn't post or interact with anyone. Now I'm "Baby Tic-Tac-Toe" and I have no abilities. I've got no clue what happened, but there's someone out there that's hiding some kind of Kidnap ability that also steals roles. It's possible that that's a one-shot, because that seems a little unbalanced, but I feel like that person is scum.
If that's true, than what was your role- that could prove most unfortunate were we to stumble into someone using your powers with out advanced notice: Forewarned is Forearmed; and that's half an Octopus.
And, also, couldn't Pandersenic take people's abilities away: This could all just be part of his role. :/
Also, still waiting on Hat Buffet.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 07, 2010, 11:50:59 pm
If that's true, than what was your role- that could prove most unfortunate were we to stumble into someone using your powers with out advanced notice: Forewarned is Forearmed; and that's half an Octopus.
I lol'd.
I certainly hope that the person didn't steal my role abilities. I had:
Night-use roleblock
Automatic protection from every action except for kills
One-shot MEGA PARTICLE SHOT to eliminate one target.
However, if two of these were used in the same Phase, I would be unable to make an action during the next Phase.
Post by: Vector on September 07, 2010, 11:53:35 pm
Need to do thread reread to get a really clear idea, but currently I'm getting bad vibes from Puppet and Toony. I think the latter slipped (need to find the quotation) and the former has been acting... odd. Something just feels off. Part of the problem may be the language barrier, but I'm definitely getting a bad feeling about him.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 08, 2010, 05:53:49 am
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 08, 2010, 06:00:45 am
Unvote.
Need to do thread reread to get a really clear idea, but currently I'm getting bad vibes from Puppet and Toony. I think the latter slipped (need to find the quotation) and the former has been acting... odd. Something just feels off. Part of the problem may be the language barrier, but I'm definitely getting a bad feeling about him.
If you could all start talking in french that would be appreciated :). Vector I still wonder what's up with your fire element, since you seem to be the only one with a hidden one shot ability.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 08, 2010, 06:21:49 am
Jokerman - Looks like somebody redirected Pandar to you. I don't see any reason why he'd target you last night, since you were missing. Anyone wanna claim it, as well as why they'd have prior knowledge that Jokerman was going to be returning?
Post by: Vector on September 08, 2010, 12:50:32 pm
She said the fire ability is Auto, not 1-shot. Vector, are you sure you're not an Arsonist?
I'm not sure, obviously, but it doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd want to put on someone without a recurrent power.
Post by: Vector on September 08, 2010, 12:51:37 pm
Also Zai, BROODY IS CONFIRMED TOON, stop being a moron.
Because you know how big the scumteam is? How would you know that, hmmm?
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 08, 2010, 04:25:37 pm
If that's true, than what was your role- that could prove most unfortunate were we to stumble into someone using your powers with out advanced notice: Forewarned is Forearmed; and that's half an Octopus.
I lol'd.
I certainly hope that the person didn't steal my role abilities. I had:
Night-use roleblock
Automatic protection from every action except for kills
One-shot MEGA PARTICLE SHOT to eliminate one target.
However, if two of these were used in the same Phase, I would be unable to make an action during the next Phase.
So, you're mega-man. How... unexpectedly expected.
What was Pandersenic's powers in full, as he claimed?
I am the Angry Unicorn
At night I can Inspect people; if they're town, however, they turn into a My Little Pony with no powers.
I have an auto Impale, which causes me to kill whoever attempts to kill me.
I have a 1-use Pegasus ability, which makes me immune to all actions and unlynchable for one phase.
Pegasus does not interfere with Impale. I have not used Pegasus yet. Impale DOES respond to lynches.
N1 I inspected Vector and was unable to find her. N2 I inspected Jokerman-EXE and found him to be town. Except he died, herp derp.
Is this his Pegasus ability? Would abilities that make you untargetable remove you from the game?
And isn't anyone the least suspicious that his inspect ability renders town helpless? If that's true, how come he didn't inspect Ironyowl Night 2- and why would he inspect Lonewolf I. Shouldn't he honestly only target the most suspicious, even forgo the inspects if such a target doesn't exist?
I'm not entirely convinced that Jokerman's disappearance/reappearance and Pandersenic's coinciding disappearance is unrelated.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 08, 2010, 04:30:18 pm
I literally have no idea. Web just told me that I couldn't do or know anything until he told me. Then he told me my new, useless role and said I could post again.
Post by: webadict on September 08, 2010, 04:32:43 pm
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Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Jokerman-EXE,
Vector - Lonewolf I,
ToonyMan - Vector,
Zai -
Jokerman-EXE -
Not Voting - ToonyMan, Zai, Mysteriousbluepuppet, TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 4 to Hammer.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 08, 2010, 04:35:41 pm
One-shot MEGA PARTICLESHOTCANNON to eliminate one target.
That might help with why you thought that.
Post by: Zai on September 08, 2010, 05:10:24 pm
Actually Joker you seem to have been ponyfied. If i remember well that only work on town, so that would confirm you.Are you retarded? You're taking his word for it? Did you not learn anything from watching IO failclaim? Namely that scum can lie? A person cannot confirm themselves, barring extraordinary roles that allow for that to happen. And these roles don't.
Probably. We shall see tomorrow.I am the Angry Unicorn
At night I can Inspect people; if they're town, however, they turn into a My Little Pony with no powers.
I have an auto Impale, which causes me to kill whoever attempts to kill me.
I have a 1-use Pegasus ability, which makes me immune to all actions and unlynchable for one phase.
Pegasus does not interfere with Impale. I have not used Pegasus yet. Impale DOES respond to lynches.
N1 I inspected Vector and was unable to find her. N2 I inspected Jokerman-EXE and found him to be town. Except he died, herp derp.
Is this his Pegasus ability? Would abilities that make you untargetable remove you from the game?
And isn't anyone the least suspicious that his inspect ability renders town helpless? If that's true, how come he didn't inspect Ironyowl Night 2- and why would he inspect Lonewolf I. Shouldn't he honestly only target the most suspicious, even forgo the inspects if such a target doesn't exist?Very good point. Let us await the 'morrow to ask why.
I'm not entirely convinced that Jokerman's disappearance/reappearance and Pandersenic's coinciding disappearance is unrelated.IDEA/THEORY: There is only one person allowed in "missing but not dead"-space at any time. If a new person goes there, they kick the other person back into the game.
I still don't trust Vector's auto-ability being hidden.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 08, 2010, 05:32:52 pm
I'm not entirely convinced that Jokerman's disappearance/reappearance and Pandersenic's coinciding disappearance is unrelated.IDEA/THEORY: There is only one person allowed in "missing but not dead"-space at any time. If a new person goes there, they kick the other person back into the game.
I think it's much more likely its all his doing. Had anyone inspected Pandersenic? Has anyone really confirmed he is town? and come to think of it, it was Lonewolf I powers that helped damn Ironyowl, essentially forcing her to come clean about her role:
I am a Mentat.
Each night I can analyze someone and deduce ONE of their rolepowers, in full.
N1 I targeted ToonyMan. I can confirm that he has a guard power, and will sacrifice himself instead of his target if the kill is unblockable.
N2 IronyOwl. There's a 'mafiakill' tag on his Devour ability.
I have a one-shot, anytime use ability to immediately recieve the entire role of a player, however I will lose all of my deductive powers afterwards, effectively leaving me a vanilla townie. I have not used it yet.
Why would someone who renders a townie inert target a inspector? I don't see how he could have struck him the least bit suspicious.
I remain suspicious of Toonyman, but given that Jokerman was sleeping and not dead, I can lay off. I'm still keeping an eye on you.
Jokerman, have you used any of your abilities prior being Pony-fied?
What of your new MLP body? How can you defend this!?
Spoiler: Avert Eyes (click to show/hide)
Pandersenic had said he confirmed you were town, but I don't know that his word is good for much of anything-
Actually Joker you seem to have been ponyfied. If i remember well that only work on town, so that would confirm you.Are you retarded? You're taking his word for it? Did you not learn anything from watching IO failclaim? Namely that scum can lie? A person cannot confirm themselves, barring extraordinary roles that allow for that to happen. And these roles don't.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 08, 2010, 05:56:25 pm
Anyway, yeah. I used my roleblock on you, first night. If you'll recall, that cleared you from having acted N1. Then I was taken N2 and didn't get a chance to do anything.
Is that a pressure vote, or are you somehow suspicious of me? If so, why?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 09, 2010, 12:17:48 am
Nobody seems to have noticed, but Lonewolf confirmed Broody and Pandarsenic confirmed Lonewolf.Also Zai, BROODY IS CONFIRMED TOON, stop being a moron.
Because you know how big the scumteam is? How would you know that, hmmm?
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 12:23:11 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 09, 2010, 12:47:54 am
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 04:29:21 pm
Web: Was Pandar allowed to post that?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 09, 2010, 04:40:54 pm
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 04:51:10 pm
I was supicious of Zai yesterdayBut before you thought I was "suspicious," you said you thought I was town. What happened to that?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 09, 2010, 04:56:50 pm
Vector, who are you supcious of and what would you consider your normal playing to be?
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 05:00:55 pm
Yesterday you were being a pain in the assHow's that different from you?
acting like you forgot everything that happened in the game.I wasn't acting. I have terrible memory, and real life stuff sent a lot of stuff from this game out of my mind.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 09, 2010, 05:03:32 pm
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 05:06:55 pm
Vector, who are you supcious of and what would you consider your normal playing to be?
As I said, Puppet.
Normal playing? Not this. I'm in too many games right now and my mental processes are crashing badly. Sorry. I can't seem to get a direct train of logic.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 09, 2010, 05:08:39 pm
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 05:12:51 pm
You voted Jokerman and me today so far, unless I missed a post.
Yeah. I did. I wanted data from Jokerman, and then I voted you because I thought you'd made that slip (which turned out to be OK). In the same post, I said that my second pick was Puppet.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 05:14:28 pm
You voted Jokerman and me today so far, unless I missed a post.You didn't.
Thanks for reaffirming that you're scum. You're currently voting TM.Vector, who are you supcious of and what would you consider your normal playing to be?
As I said, Puppet.
Normal playing? Not this. I'm in too many games right now and my mental processes are crashing badly. Sorry. I can't seem to get a direct train of logic.That's no excuse. Play the damn game. You said earlier today you needed to reread the game. So why don't you do that?
[PPE:]
Yeah. I did. I wanted data from Jokerman, and then I voted you because I thought you'd made that slip (which turned out to be OK). In the same post, I said that my second pick was Puppet.If it was "OK" then why the hell are you still voting TM?
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 05:16:49 pm
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 05:19:14 pm
I have to go tell my mom that I can't hang out with her, but then I'll come do that reread.
Unvote.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 09, 2010, 05:19:38 pm
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 05:21:53 pm
Dude Vector, I do not remember a time when you would have a one word post.
Good for you. Now you have a contradiction.
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 05:40:10 pm
What the hell, Pandar?No, and he'll have some serious consequences if he decides to do it again.
Web: Was Pandar allowed to post that?
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 06:31:18 pm
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Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Jokerman-EXE,
Vector - Lonewolf I, Zai,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Jokerman-EXE - TheBroodyMoods,
Not Voting - ToonyMan, Mysteriousbluepuppet, Vector,
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 4 to Hammer.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 06:41:48 pm
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 06:47:26 pm
vector. Are you voting meYou don't pay much attention, do you?
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 06:48:00 pm
Don't remember you asking me a question or anything vector. Are you voting me since I think you hide a bit of things behind your fire power ?
Read harder. I'm not voting you.
When I do vote you, it will be because I've built a case from your play this game. Not sooner. Not later.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 06:57:20 pm
Don't remember you asking me a question or anything vector. Are you voting me since I think you hide a bit of things behind your fire power ?
Read harder. I'm not voting you.
When I do vote you, it will be because I've built a case from your play this game. Not sooner. Not later.
Guess i should have. The distrust still stand. Your supposedly hidden would be what , anyway ? People knew about retribution kill, tracking, resurection, rolecheck. I don't really see what ability would be hidden if every normal power is present and revealed to the player.
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 07:01:19 pm
Your supposedly hidden would be what , anyway ? People knew about retribution kill, tracking, resurection, rolecheck. I don't really see what ability would be hidden if every normal power is present and revealed to the player.
Look, man, I don't know. Pressing me harder will not make me know. If you don't know something, then you simply don't know it. I can't defend it. I can't explain it. It is what it is.
If you're suspicious of me, then I suggest that you make a case, rather than jumping onto what's bothering two other people. It makes you look like you don't know what you're doing, on top of your PAINFULLY defensive play.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 07:32:44 pm
Your supposedly hidden would be what , anyway ? People knew about retribution kill, tracking, resurection, rolecheck. I don't really see what ability would be hidden if every normal power is present and revealed to the player.
Look, man, I don't know. Pressing me harder will not make me know. If you don't know something, then you simply don't know it. I can't defend it. I can't explain it. It is what it is.
If you're suspicious of me, then I suggest that you make a case, rather than jumping onto what's bothering two other people. It makes you look like you don't know what you're doing, on top of your PAINFULLY defensive play.
You may look back and see that I did not like it for some time.
I dont see any defense right now, i'm trying to learn more about the abilitys of everyone. You hide yours, afterall you are the only one with a supposedly hidden ability. Also, that you play other game is your problem, not mine. My problem is easy, i doN,t trust you, Vector
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 07:35:46 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 07:40:06 pm
... Did you not hear the part where I'm in the middle of doing a thread reread? Good lord.
Yes, your point ? I don't think a thread reread will let you mysteriously know us what your real powers are.
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 07:41:46 pm
Yes, your point ? I don't think a thread reread will let you mysteriously know us what your real powers are.
My point is that your dickery about "OMFG, your playing other games is no excuse!!" is kind of pointless, especially given YOUR contributions to this mess.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 07:54:18 pm
Mbp mainly for his weird RC and lack of comprehension skills, even of stuff that was just said (not even from previous days). English obviously not being his primary language helps justify this though.
I'd be okay with either being lynched today, but preferably Vector.
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 08:28:14 pm
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 08:32:25 pm
...
WEB: Is that what Ed's after-death post would be like?
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 09, 2010, 08:33:08 pm
Aside from some absenteeism, Vector has given me no pause as to her alignment- VECTOR IS NOT SCUM.
Suddenly, some music appears out of nowhere. It is soothing... And telling you a message. It seems that Vector must be Town! You all deeply appreciate the message.
Unvote... be-because...where...its...at...its usless
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 08:34:21 pm
WEB: Is that what Ed's after-death post would be like?It is not. Eduren will be able to post his own message.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 08:36:04 pm
Coo', well- that saves me the trouble of explaining my role in all this. And, actually Zai, I believe I was the last to claim....What does this have to do with your role? You claimed Reviver/Mason group starter.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 09, 2010, 08:38:59 pm
Coo', well- that saves me the trouble of explaining my role in all this. And, actually Zai, I believe I was the last to claim....What does this have to do with your role? You claimed Reviver/Mason group starter.
I am also masoned with vector. Or did you forget?
There have been, thus far, no inconsistencies with her claims. I do not think she is scum; I admit I could be fallible- but only just barely.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 08:44:55 pm
I am also masoned with vector. Or did you forget?Apparently so, as I don't remember you claiming this. But I do remember you saying you weren't able to see alignment.
There have been, thus far, no inconsistencies with her claims. I do not think she is scum; I admit I could be fallible- but only just barely.No inconsistencies =/= Not scum. That just means she's careful.
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 08:52:12 pm
Spoiler: MBP D1 (click to show/hide)
)Spoiler: MBP D2 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: MBP D3 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: MBP D4 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: MBP D5 (click to show/hide)
. Vector I still wonder what's up with your fire element, since you seem to be the only one with a hidden one shot ability.Without further ado, MysteriousBluePuppet.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 09, 2010, 08:54:41 pm
I apologize for not being on; I got trapped at my parent's place last couple days: on the plus side- Kitten Happened. Kneel before your Zod Cat.THEBROODYMOODS: Did you or did you not already form a Mason group? Is it a Night, Day, or Either action?Second: It reveals that I am town but I do not get to know if the other person is town. I can recruit anyone, so it's entirely hunch based.Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.I assume you already have done so? Or does forming it get rid of your Revive? Can only Townies be recruited? If not, does recruiting people reveal their alignment to you?
This sounds suspicious is why I ask.
I did in fact form a mason group with Vector. She claimed the same role that she did here. I have no reason, thus far, to doubt that she's town.
There, so you know. It was at your behest, after all. You got fairly obstinate about it- so how could you have actually missed it? I find that surprising. Though, I admit it was at the end of the day. It might have slipped by.
There have been, thus far, no inconsistencies with her claims. I do not think she is scum; I admit I could be fallible- but only just barely.No inconsistencies =/= Not scum. That just means she's careful.
I believe the quotation you used deals with that precise issue. I merely said that I have no reason to doubt her- and I do feel I can trust her- but just because she has a hidden ability --given some of the abilities town has had -- and the quote from God (essentially Webaddict in this situation), I think we move on.
I am certain that Vector is not Scum. Do I have proof? No, just consistent claims in our mason chat- and a gut feeling. Is it wise to decide you can trust someone on that alone? Prolly not. Oh well; I now have the backing of Lord Webaddict.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 09:04:37 pm
Find that 'She is totally townie guys' stupid but apparently I should listen about it.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 09:06:51 pm
You got fairly obstinate about it- so how could you have actually missed it? I find that surprising.Probably because I didn't miss it. I forgot it.
I believe the quotation you used deals with that precise issue. I merely said that I have no reason to doubt her- and I do feel I can trust her- but just because she has a hidden ability --given some of the abilities town has had -- and the quote from God (essentially Webaddict in this situation), I think we move on....So what did Web proclaiming Vector's town have to do with you? How is this his backing? It would have to be somebody's role, not Web volunteering to tell us something so important as that.
Oh well; I now have the backing of Lord Webaddict.
I don't get how the announcement relates to you.
and the quote from God (essentially Webaddict...)Damn it, man. Now he's going to quote that out of context like I just did.
[PPE:]
Wow, that's a lot of word. Ill post counter arguments as soon as i finish reading that brick. First impression tho is the nice lack of any background. Not hard to look stupid without context.No shit dumbass. THAT IS WHY THERE IS A GODDAMN LINK INCLUDED IN EVERY QUOTE. I have explained that throughout the game! How have you not gotten that yet?!
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 09:12:24 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 09, 2010, 09:23:47 pm
I believe the quotation you used deals with that precise issue. I merely said that I have no reason to doubt her- and I do feel I can trust her- but just because she has a hidden ability --given some of the abilities town has had -- and the quote from God (essentially Webaddict in this situation), I think we move on....So what did Web proclaiming Vector's town have to do with you? How is this his backing? It would have to be somebody's role, not Web volunteering to tell us something so important as that.
Oh well; I now have the backing of Lord Webaddict.
I don't get how the announcement relates to you.and the quote from God (essentially Webaddict...)Damn it, man. Now he's going to quote that out of context like I just did.
sigh, I realize that. I totally do, but that in conjunction with my previous reasons for trusting her are- essentially- reaffirming rather than detracting.
But he does essentially moderate the entire game- acting as a divine being in our little struggle to murder each other systematically enough to root out a certain element within the group. I am not saying she is beyond suspicion- just that perhaps is a good prompt to continue searching for scum elsewheres. He's not supposed to just come in an tell us something: he was prompted by some action or power. That's all I can say for the matter.
I was going to defend her- firstly because I think she is innocent of being scum. Secondly because for whatever reason- a reason that should be evaluated further in the future- the moderator proclaimed her to be town. and third, we're maaaasssooons. Its soo cool, you guys!
Actually, has anyone proclaimed responsibility for webaddict's announcement?
peoples are lazy, they wont follow every link then reread the whole thread to get context.
That seems pretty lazy right there. If you want to try and help yourself quote her and put it in context. But, most of us were there. A good portion of her quotes I can remember their context- poor choice of words my friend.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 09:26:40 pm
Actually, has anyone proclaimed responsibility for webaddict's announcement?No, which is why it's suspicious.
You make me facepalm.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 09:43:15 pm
Day 1OMG he's not voting Spartan like everybody else is already voting ! Scum!1!. I don't care, i tought that toony was more susceptible to be scummy. Read back the post. What i'm against is people flinging accusation willy-nilly. If they get it right, then well, congrats.
Day 2 : Being drunk 2 days, then missing classes to hangover tend to make one Not post on a forum on the internet. You know that already, that's pretty much the excuses you used later when Zathras came in.
Day 3 : Again, classes tend to get in the way for forums game. Work too, can't see why
Day 4 : Work, classes. Trying to get everyone role , saying who i find more scummy ( you were there :) ) getting to vote when i'm back from the lab.
Day 5 : Absurd ? before that weird otherwordly voice said you were town, and even then, I still feel bad with your roles. I don't know that part of my role , stop asking me bluh. We all gave our role , and all the power were known to us.
In resume : If you are town, you are pretty much harpying since i have suspicion you don't say all the thruth behind your role
If you are scum, well i won't be the one surprised.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 09:48:38 pm
Day 1OMG he's not voting Spartan like everybody else is already voting ! Scum!1!. I don't care, i tought that toony was more susceptible to be scummy. Read back the post. What i'm against is people flinging accusation willy-nilly. If they get it right, then well, congrats.I don't recall you talking about TM Day 1.
Day 2 : Being drunk 2 days, then missing classes to hangover tend to make one Not post on a forum on the internet. You know that already, that's pretty much the excuses you used later when Zathras came in."Hey guys I got too drunk but I won't tell you until 3 in-game-Days later" is totally a valid excuse.
Day 3 : Again, classes tend to get in the way for forums game. Work too, can't see whyNeither can I.
Day 4 : Work, classes. Trying to get everyone role , saying who i find more scummy ( you were there :) ) getting to vote when i'm back from the lab.That's funny. I seem to recall MCing by the end of Day 3. I guess you still had to catch up.
Day 5 : Absurd ? before that weird otherwordly voice said you were town, and even then, I still feel bad with your roles. I don't know that part of my role , stop asking me bluh. We all gave our role , and all the power were known to us.Could use some " marks to separate you mocking Vector from you talking about why she's scummy, but otherwise okay.
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 09:50:52 pm
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Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Jokerman-EXE, Vector,
Vector - Lonewolf I, Zai, Mysteriousbluepuppet,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Jokerman-EXE -
Not Voting - ToonyMan, TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 4 to Hammer.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 09:59:15 pm
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 10:04:45 pm
Well I don't know what Toonie would be, Refuge in audacity townie or scum, possibly. If he has is way, people wont lynch him the day, and at night he can scum all he want.
Also, Ottofar is pretty much not doing anything. It's not a proof but that ain,t good too.
for the rest i havent made an opinion yet.
Found the quote for you. If you follow a few page later i say that i would need a replacement since college was afoot, then came back since web could not find anybody else.
Vector, if you were to quote my post, why did you forgot posting those that was contradictory to your theory. You are a scientific mind, fudging thing's isn't good.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 09, 2010, 10:08:37 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 09, 2010, 10:12:44 pm
Actually, has anyone proclaimed responsibility for webaddict's announcement?No, which is why it's suspicious.
You make me facepalm.
Good for you: so after hounding me about my role and weather or not I mason'd, you just Up and Forgot? This didn't factor into your vote at all? I thought it was all important, stop the presses- We must know.
Well I for one do not think Org is our scum.
I'm thinking Mysteriousbluepuppet or TheBroodyMoods. Still waiting on his response to my questions a bit ago.
Everybody: Be aware, we are now up to 3 people on Org. Please don't hammer until TBM shows up and answers my questions.
And. you. forgot.
But you can recall her subtle lack of engagement with other players?
...Vector mainly for her "hidden" ability (and if I recall correctly, she was the last person to RC, but had posted a few times between the start of MC and her RC), but also somewhat for her large lack of interaction with the known scum, distancing her from them.
What made you change your opinion of Mysteriousbluepuppet in favor of vector, incidentally?
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 10:18:31 pm
What made you change your opinion of Mysteriousbluepuppet in favor of vector, incidentally?I'm not sure what you're talking about? Since when have I been "in favor" of Vector? I'm still voting her. I've voiced suspicions of both for a while.
The rest of the questions in your post appear to be rhetorical questions.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 09, 2010, 10:48:18 pm
Nobody go discovering anything until I get back.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 09, 2010, 11:03:05 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 09, 2010, 11:03:50 pm
Post by: Vector on September 10, 2010, 12:00:30 am
Well I don't know what Toonie would be, Refuge in audacity townie or scum, possibly. If he has is way, people wont lynch him the day, and at night he can scum all he want.
Also, Ottofar is pretty much not doing anything. It's not a proof but that ain,t good too.
for the rest i havent made an opinion yet.
Found the quote for you. If you follow a few page later i say that i would need a replacement since college was afoot, then came back since web could not find anybody else.
Vector, if you were to quote my post, why did you forgot posting those that was contradictory to your theory. You are a scientific mind, fudging thing's isn't good.
There is a difference between "contradictory" and "irrelevant." All I can see is that you occasionally posted a couple reads, never attacked anyone with any seriousness, and chainsaw defensed your little scumbuddy to death. You lurked. When you came back, you hardly posted anything of worth--just a couple of reads you never followed up on or did anything with. I mean, if you were drunk, nice excuse. Weren't you just talking about my business not mattering?
Well, yours doesn't now, either.
Sleep on that info. For my part i'm going to bed and wont be back until 6 pm tommorow. If Vector get her way i'll have to give you my full schedule soon anyway.
Yeeeeeeeah, yeah. I know I'm annoying. Grow up and get a backbone. I'm not some kind of fascist dictator, but when you sign up for a game, I sure as hell expect you to play.
Post by: Solifuge on September 10, 2010, 02:19:08 am
Guess that explains that (though the musical flavor... now that's just weird).
From somewhere in the crowd:
Cough. Earth, Wind, and Fire. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLEc09tTjI) Cough cough.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 10, 2010, 02:37:50 am
Guess that explains that (though the musical flavor... now that's just weird).
From somewhere in the crowd:
Cough. Earth, Wind, and Fire. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLEc09tTjI) Cough cough.
God I love you. I didn't want to be the only one to have to say it.
Post by: Solifuge on September 10, 2010, 03:20:32 am
<3 <3 <3
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 10, 2010, 05:58:23 am
In other news, your auto as now been used up! Wow, such good news for you! Clearly, it could not have happened at a better moment! Also, musical. Musical fire, that's nice
And again, i find that you throwing the lurking accusation is quite funny, considering you were prime lurking until about day 3. When i signed i played and posted as much as i could, can't say the same about you .
Time for me to go lurk at college. wanna hear what the others think about that weird music.
Post by: webadict on September 10, 2010, 06:43:22 am
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Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Jokerman-EXE, Vector, TheBroodyMoods,
Vector - Lonewolf I, Zai, Mysteriousbluepuppet,
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Jokerman-EXE -
Not Voting - ToonyMan,
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 4 to Hammer.
Post by: Vector on September 10, 2010, 01:43:30 pm
Still, you are fudging ( wich you may remember was a irrelevent post you passed) and that is bad. I don,t remeber you doing anything usefull until Zathras snapped out of it. And i mean anything.
[...]
And again, i find that you throwing the lurking accusation is quite funny, considering you were prime lurking until about day 3. When i signed i played and posted as much as i could, can't say the same about you .
...
You really wanted me to bring up that fudging post? Do you think it would have saved you, honey-bunch?
Geez.
The posts I made in this game had to do with this game, and my scum-hunting was generally active. The posts you made were irrelevant to the topic at hand and implied that you really didn't care. At all. I'm not going to repeat this for you.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 01:59:24 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 02:14:53 pm
I'm going to die hammering him, but what the hell.
If Bluepuppet is town I would be keeping my eye out for Vector/Broody/and Zai. Farewell.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 03:33:14 pm
Post by: webadict on September 10, 2010, 03:54:00 pm
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Lonewolf I -
TheBroodyMoods -
Mysteriousbluepuppet - Jokerman-EXE, Vector, TheBroodyMoods, ToonyMan, [4]
Vector - Lonewolf I, Zai, Mysteriousbluepuppet, [3]
ToonyMan -
Zai -
Jokerman-EXE -
Not Voting -
Day Ends on Friday at 9 PM Central. 4 to Hammer.
And there he stood, Mysterious, blue, and marionette-like. He droops his head low for a second, only to raise it with the evilest of all smiles.
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHA," he laughs, the few people look slightly bewildered, but Vector is first up to end him. She jumps, aiming a concealed dagger to the neck. He is unfazed, shoving her back and raising an arm. He points at Vector. She lets out a horrific scream.
Her stomach explodes in gore. She drops to the floor, quivering slightly, face white. Her mask falls from her face, and you know that she was not who you thought she was. He turns his attention to the stunned crowd, raising another arm.
He points to Zai. His eyes widen in time to leave his acknowledged expression on his face, his stomach also exploding. "Sis...," he mouths, collapsing.
Most of the remaining few tried to flee now. What power was this that this man commanded, to make others explode?
Blood spilled from his mouth. He was already done for, and, with the last of his strength, he pointed a gore-drenched finger at Lonewolf I. He managed a trot or two more before his midsection was gone.
His arm fell to the ground. What was this man? A brave individual checks to make sure he's dead, but he seems to have vanished entirely, leaving only a pool of blood. However, Pandarsenic seems to have returned.
Mysteriousbluepuppet has been lynched!
Mysteriousbluepupper was a TVTrope: Chest Burster (sk).
Vector has been killed!
Vector was Erik, Phantom of the Opera (mafia).
Zai has been killed!
Zai was Antoine Dodson (town).
Lonewolf I has been killed!
Lonewolf I was Baby Cuddles (cult).
Pandarsenic has returned to the game.
It is now Night.
Quote
TVTrope: Chest Burster
BLARGH! You're not even a real role, since you're not really a physical concept, but an idea OF a concept created from an event.
(Day) CHEST BURST!: You can burst from all the people's chests that you have currently impregnated, killing them. This ability activates on death as well.
(Night) Plant Seed [target]: You... uh... yeah.
(Auto) Inconceivable: Since you are not real, any part of your role is impossible to imagine and cannot be revealed except on death.
(Auto) Everyone's Dead: You win as long as no one else is alive. Your living status is unnecessary.
Quote
Erik
You are the Phantom of the Opera, hiding away in an Opera House with a mask to disguise your face. You have a multitude of skills, but without your mask, you will almost certainly be killed. Your architectual knowledge will be necessary.
(Night) Hide: Having made your current surroundings, you can move in and out of secret passages that no one else knows.
(Night) Kidnap [target]: You may remove a player from the game, hiding them away in a secret location. You may release them at any time. You cannot kidnap more than one person at a time. This player may action you at any time, even if you are Hiding. The player will not be told who or what has captured them.
(Auto) Mask Removal: If your mask is removed, the player that removed your mask can reveal it to the Thread, showing your alignment to everyone. However, your mask can only be removed by being able to reach you while you are hiding.
(1-Use) Phantom of the Opera: You show everyone how truly beautiful you are. Everyone will be told you are town. If your mask has been removed, this action will fail.
Quote
Antoine Dodson
Umm... You're not sure why you're here right now instead of hiding your children, wife, family, town, dog, toys, or car.
(Night) Hide Other [target]: You hide the person from harm, making them unable to act or be acted on.
(Auto) They Rapin' E'erybody!: If someone visits you in the Night, you will assume that person is trying to get you, causing you to stop your action. You will quickly identify them, though.
(1-Use) Chase Down [target]: You can choose one of the people that actioned you and learn what team they're on.
Quote
Baby Cuddles
You are part of the Unicorn cult. You are blue with pink hair. You have no powers.
Post by: webadict on September 10, 2010, 04:31:42 pm
Vote Count
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TheBroodyMoods -
ToonyMan -
Jokerman-EXE -
Pandarsenic -
Not Voting - Jokerman-EXE, TheBroodyMoods, ToonyMan, Pandarsenic,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 3 to Hammer.
It is now Day.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 10, 2010, 05:15:54 pm
I'M A SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
SUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
I'M A SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 10, 2010, 05:18:37 pm
But... that proved nearly useful, Mysterious... um. yeah.
I apologize, Zai. Umm... what of this Pony Cult, however?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 10, 2010, 05:45:46 pm
Really, man? Really? You think we don't know you're scum by now?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 06:14:39 pm
Sorry Broody, you gotta die.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 10, 2010, 06:16:48 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 06:19:28 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 10, 2010, 06:32:32 pm
Though, suddenly- disregard Pandersenic? Very well.
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 10, 2010, 06:44:44 pm
Hadn't I previously been confirmed town? Are you voting me now, because for whatever reason, your doubting Lonewolf I (whom for whatever reason confirmed I was town-- I believe he did anyway) or merely because I defended Vector.
Do you folks seriously think I am scum? I don't think I can swing the vote or anything, but just thought I'd put that out there- I'll return to life now, if you like.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 06:46:28 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 10, 2010, 06:49:47 pm
Fukken ponies. Take your stinking hooves off me, you damned dirty horseys!
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 10, 2010, 06:50:55 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 10, 2010, 06:51:12 pm
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 10, 2010, 06:54:02 pm
If we call it a night- you can convert me. >:<
Though, I admit- I was withholding information about vector- and was even suspicious of her- but she had said she was a survivor which opened up a possibility of coming back scum and ruling the game in favor of scum team. However- Well, fuck.
This was fun, whatever the results. I just wish I had been more astute/passionate. My Bad.
Post by: Solifuge on September 11, 2010, 12:57:54 am
"No! I must kill the ponies" he shouted
The radio said "No, Broody. You are the ponies"
And then Broody was a unicron.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 11, 2010, 01:00:17 am
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 11, 2010, 01:06:44 am
Post by: TheBroodyMoods on September 11, 2010, 01:07:57 am
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 11, 2010, 01:32:12 am
On the off-chance that something happens, I'd rather die than lose Pandar.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 01:33:19 am
Post by: webadict on September 11, 2010, 01:49:12 am
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TheBroodyMoods - Jokerman-EXE, ToonyMan, Pandarsenic,
ToonyMan -
Jokerman-EXE -
Pandarsenic -
Not Voting - TheBroodyMoods,
Day Ends on Wednesday at 9 PM Central. 3 to Hammer.
The three quickly surround TheBroodyMoods and string him up. Unfortunately, it seems that there was another Broody! Shucks. You only bought one length of rope.
TheBroodyMoods has been lynched!
TheBroodyMoods has come back to life!
It is now Night.
Post by: webadict on September 11, 2010, 05:55:09 pm
They had decided to lynch his brother. Sam was gone now, but perhaps he could take revenge for the fallen. All that had died had died in vain. He could not allow this.
He rushed toward the leader, Pandarsenic, slashing wildy. Pandarsenic saw the attack coming and dodged each one, backing further and further away. His hoof knicked the edge of a cliff.
TheBroodyMoods saw his opening, diving toward the brainwasher. Pandarsenic dove from the cliff. He was done for.
Broody turned toward the remaining two. They looked at each other and then back to the madman. He was a murder, for sure, but there was no way he could take them both. The two forces engaged.
The fight lasted only a minute, but the wild blows made no contact, and the ponies overpowered him. Each had put a hoof on two of his limbs. The dagger was knocked above his head.
It was then that Pandarsenic landed. He snorted and whinnied, enraged. How dare he attempt to kill him. After all, he had wanted only to help him.
Broody spit at him. Broody had chosen his last actions. He had failed. His thoughts drifted over his brothers.
Pandarsenic, now a winged, majestic beast, plunged the dagger into the captive's chest. He turned and trotted off into the forest. No one would disrespect unicorns ever again.
Cult has won!
Pandarsenic, Lonewolf I, ToonyMan, and Jokerman-EXE have won the game.
Post by: Vector on September 11, 2010, 05:56:46 pm
Good game, everyone.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 11, 2010, 05:58:33 pm
Post by: webadict on September 11, 2010, 06:00:46 pm
Mafia:
Anglerfish
If fish can dream, they have nightmares of you, luring them from their safe homes and devouring them. You are very distracting and ridiculously scary, which will hopefully lead to your success in the mafia.
(Day) Crunch [target]: You can crunch up the bones of a dead player you've Devoured to make the body impossible to identify and removing them from your stomach. However, people will hear a crunching noise coming from your direction.
(Night, Mafiakill) Devour [target]: Eats and removes the body of the player you kill, so that the player's identity will not be revealed until you die. As well, players may not target those dead players. You are told what role the player you killed was.
(Auto) Lure: If a player targets you, they may not be roleblocked or redirected.
GIR
As an annoying robot built with plenty of flaws, your main goal is rather unknown. You are built to serve, but you are built in such poor fashion as to do a shoddy job of it. But, luckily, you are built with destructive weapons and you're a robot. So doom da-doom-doom doom.
(Day) Assist [target] [player]: You can hinder a player by giving them fake information about another player.
(Night) Annoy [target]: You stop a player from being able to not only hear but go anywhere for the Night.
(Auto) What's The G Stand For?: Your actions have a 50% chance to do something else entirely.
(1-Use) Disguise: You dress up in a dog suit and will remain that way for 2 phases afterward (2 Days or 2 Nights, depending when it is used.) This will confuse anyone wanting your role name or any other part (You will be look town), including on death. This action cannot fail.
(X-Action) Scream: You emit a peircing scream for no reason whatsoever. This action may be used with another action.
Erik
You are the Phantom of the Opera, hiding away in an Opera House with a mask to disguise your face. You have a multitude of skills, but without your mask, you will almost certainly be killed. Your architectual knowledge will be necessary.
(Night) Hide: Having made your current surroundings, you can move in and out of secret passages that no one else knows.
(Night) Kidnap [target]: You may remove a player from the game, hiding them away in a secret location. You may release them at any time. You cannot kidnap more than one person at a time. This player may action you at any time, even if you are Hiding. The player will not be told who or what has captured them.
(Auto) Mask Removal: If your mask is removed, the player that removed your mask can reveal it to the Thread, showing your alignment to everyone. However, your mask can only be removed by being able to reach you while you are hiding.
(1-Use) Phantom of the Opera: You show everyone how truly beautiful you are. Everyone will be told you are town. If your mask has been removed, this action will fail.
Cult:
Angry Unicorn
You are a very angry unicorn. It might be because you people think you don't exist. It might be because people think you look girly. It might be because atheists use your kind as a joke. It doesn't matter, because people will know you exist. And the rest will die.
(Night) Inform [target]: You recruit a player to your enlightened group, if that player is not part of some sort of murderous group bent on killing everyone. Players recruited will lose all of their powers and gain the role of a My Little Pony character with no powers. If you die, they will revert to their previous team if they are alive (NO ONE WILL BE TOLD THIS BUT YOU UNLESS THEY LEARN YOUR ROLE PM!!!)
(Day, 1-Use) Brainwash [target]: You may brainwash one of your cult members to maintain their allegiance after you die.
(Auto) Impale: Anyone trying to kill you will be killed themselves. This does include lynches AND if you are immune to kills.
(1-Use) Pegasus: You sprout wings and avoid being actioned until the following Phase. This includes lynches and kills. However, you cannot action during this time.
Town:
Antoine Dodson
Umm... You're not sure why you're here right now instead of hiding your children, wife, family, town, dog, toys, or car.
(Night) Hide Other [target]: You hide the person from harm, making them unable to act or be acted on.
(Auto) They Rapin' E'erybody!: If someone visits you in the Night, you will assume that person is trying to get you, causing you to stop your action. You will quickly identify them, though.
(1-Use) Chase Down [target]: You can choose one of the people that actioned you and learn what team they're on.
Shizuo Heiwajima
You are a bodyguard.
(Night) Guard [target]: You can protect a person from harm, stopping the potential person's attack. If the attack is unblockable, you sacrifice yourself to save that person from harm.
(Auto) Self-Defense: If you are attacked and not guarding anyone, you will be unkillable.
(Auto, 1-Use) Short Fuse: You will be enraged if Self-Defense is used. You will disable the ability that was used on you permanently.
Samneric
You've lost your identity as singular people, but maybe, if one of your personas is gone, you'll regain some sense of individuality.
You are twins, trapped on an island with a bunch of other boys.
(Auto) Sam AND Eric: If you are killed, you will be ressurected as either Sam or Eric. You may switch alignment on ressurection.
(1-Use) Brotherly Love [target]: You may choose a player and become a Mason group with this person. This person will know you are town, but you will not know that they are town.
White Base
You are a giant fictional spaceship. You need to get a life, because there's unlikely to be any use for you here.
(Night) Missile Launcher [target]: You block someone from actioning. If that action is unblockable, you disable that player until the following phase.
(Auto) Anti-Aircraft Turrets: Anyone targetting you with an action will fail unless that action kills you.
(Auto) Unknown Power Source: If two of your guns are used in the same Day or Night Phase, you shut down, unable to preform any actions until the following Day or Night Phase.
(1-use) Mega Particle Cannon [target]: You kill anyone that would normally be unkillable, while not killing anyone that would be killable.
Old Spice Guy
"The man that this man smells like."
(Night) Odorize [target]: You can attach a scent to a player and find who he targeted last Night.
(Auto) Deordorized: You are untrackable because of how good you smell like.
(Night, 1-Use) Old Spice Man: You can see who smells like you after the Night. Surely, these people acted on you or someone that acted on someone that smells like you (from actioning you or someone that smells like you.)
Mentat
You have the intellectual capacity and processing of a super computer. You can use this to deduce many things about a person.
(Night) Deduce [target]: You will find out one of the abilities of the player.
(Auto) Anti-Redundant: You will not gather the same information while using Deduce on a player.
(Auto) Addict: If you use the Sapho Juice, you will no longer be able to Deduce, as you will be too busy trying to find more Sapho Juice.
(1-Use) Sapho Juice: You will gain a 1-use ability that allows you to find the entire role of a player.
Rorschach
Crazy, masked vigilante, out to make a mark on the world. With a grappling hook.
(Night) Kill [target]: You can render a person incapable of living with your incredible strength.
(Night) Confuse [target]: You can psyche out a player with a psychiatrist-like recanting of what they REALLY want. The player will target a random person.
(Day) Grappling Hook [target]: If a player leaves the scene, you may follow them and bring them back... if they're alive.
(Auto) Illegal: Masked vigilantes are bad. Killing innocent people is worse. Both at once is the worst. Your chance to kill someone is 1 / (# of Town you've killed + 2)
Robert Fulton
Inventor and engineer, you are. You developed the steamboat. Props, yo. Congratulations on using the steam engine and putting it on a boat.
(Night) Upgrade [target]: You may upgrade a random ability of a player.
(Day) Investigate [target]: You may investigate a dead player to build a device based on their role. It is given to a random player, including you.
(Auto) Unsuccessful Experiments: You have a certain percent to die after using your first ability that increases each time you use an ability.
(Auto) Go Down With The Sub: You can send one last message to the board after you die.
Ra, God of Sun
You control Night and Day. Well, you control the sun, which controls Night and Day, so kinda in an indirect way.
(1-Use) Solar Reset: The Mandjet makes a double shift, skipping the next Night Phase.
(1-Use) Solar Skip: The Mesektet comes early, dragging the sun back before it can show its face. The next Day Phase is skipped.
(1-Use) Ressurection: You can ressurect a dead player once you have used both of your Solar powers.
SK:
TVTrope: Chest Burster
BLARGH! You're not even a real role, since you're not really a physical concept, but an idea OF a concept created from an event.
(Day) CHEST BURST!: You can burst from all the people's chests that you have currently impregnated, killing them. This ability activates on death as well.
(Night) Plant Seed [target]: You... uh... yeah.
(Auto) Inconceivable: Since you are not real, any part of your role is impossible to imagine and cannot be revealed except on death.
(Auto) Everyone's Dead: You win as long as no one else is alive. Your living status is unnecessary.
Survivor:
Captain Planet
Earth... Fire... Wind... Water... Heart. With your powers combined, I am Captain Planet!
(Day) Earth: Earth is a solid and sturdy element. It is unyeilding. You are unlynchable for the remainder of the Day.
(Night) Fire [target]: Fire is powerful, built upon the rage that fuels it. During the night, you become untouchable. You are unkillable.
(Day) Wind [target]: Wind is agile and constantly moving. During the day, you may make someone else unlynachable for the remainder of the Day by blowing them away.
(Night) Water [target]: Water is fluid, using the energy of nearby things as its power. During the Night, you may make a player unkillable.
(Day) Heart: It does nothing. Well, almost nothing. If used correctly, you can leave the game when used, victorious.
(Auto) Planeteer Rings: Each action is only 100% dependable for one use. Multiple uses afterward will decrease the dependability of the respective ring.
Post by: IronyOwl on September 11, 2010, 06:03:03 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 06:07:09 pm
Post by: Vector on September 11, 2010, 06:07:34 pm
Post by: Elegy on September 11, 2010, 06:08:07 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 06:10:45 pm
I'm wondering tho, had i not impregnated Pandar on turn 1 or 2 ?
Even if you had, I was outside the game when you were lynched and triggered it.
Post by: Criptfeind on September 11, 2010, 06:21:45 pm
Earth... Fire... Wind... Water... Heart. With your powers combined, I am Captain Planet!
From now on until the end of time I will hear everything you say in his voice Webadict.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 11, 2010, 06:26:34 pm
That is all.
Post by: IronyOwl on September 11, 2010, 07:21:17 pm
WE ARE THE FOUR HORSES OF THE APOCALYPSE.
That is all.
God damn it.
Post by: Eduren on September 11, 2010, 07:30:38 pm
When I said that I had investigated Zathras, Webadict told me that he never got that message (sent it to myself on accident). So when I tried to investigate him for real, it turned up that I "Could not find Zathras". So I picked someone that was actually dead, and tried it on Jokerman. I died in the process.
Post by: Vector on September 11, 2010, 07:32:00 pm
Mason Chat (http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/HJZdH8xsrLT)
Scum Chat (http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/datipfWm2DqP)
Post by: IronyOwl on September 11, 2010, 07:41:01 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 07:42:51 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on September 11, 2010, 07:45:56 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 07:52:09 pm
Also Pandar, that "I'm a shark" bit was the best "haha you caught me but it's too late" post I've ever seen.
Thanks :D
I'm having a fun time rereading our argument where each of us knew the other was scum and was trying to get the other taken down.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 08:08:43 pm
Quote from: Vektor
Aw, I hope he's strong enough to hunt on his own with the other Jokermen! Good--goodbye, little Jokesy! Goodbye!
Teehee.
Also totally called waiting to use Pegasus until the last night and doing that instead of recruiting him as the best course of action :3
Post by: Zai on September 11, 2010, 08:16:23 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 11, 2010, 08:20:00 pm
Really, he should have set them off BEFORE he got lynched to shake things up <_<
Post by: Toaster on September 11, 2010, 08:23:12 pm
Dammit. :)
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 11, 2010, 08:41:44 pm
Quote from: VektorAw, I hope he's strong enough to hunt on his own with the other Jokermen! Good--goodbye, little Jokesy! Goodbye!
Teehee.
*blink*
Whaaaaaat the Hell?
Also, Vector, damn you for abducting me. It's directly your fault that Cult won this game. If you hadn't abducted me, Pandar wouldn't have been able to Cult me on the night I was going to blast him into oblivion.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on September 11, 2010, 08:44:52 pm
Vektor talking to herself/dead scum for like ten pages
Vektor making...haiku? O_o
And:
Quote from: Vektor
Wait now it's
Jokerman x Solifuge x Vector x Broody
... Why is there suddenly a foursome? Whyyyyyyyy
Post by: Toaster on September 11, 2010, 08:46:06 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 11, 2010, 09:12:19 pm
Pandar, you still suck, but I'm thankful you brought me over the the pony side. You know, the one that won.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 11, 2010, 09:14:03 pm
Still, a fun game. Damn you vector, our goal were not so different !
Post by: webadict on September 11, 2010, 09:17:19 pm
LAWLsome game, Webadict!If MBP hadn't've been lynched, I'm sure someone from the Cult would've been chosen to be lynched. It should also have been pointed out that there IS NO SUCH THING AS CONFIRMATION IN A BYOR GAME! Seriously, I could straight-up post their role to the board and the first thing you should say is "not confirmed." They are only confirmed when the game has ended and I tell you their alignment. At any other point, there is a likely chance that someone may be lying, including me.
Pandar, you still suck, but I'm thankful you brought me over the the pony side. You know, the one that won.
Btw, i am the one that tried to kill toony off before getting plastered over. if i had better judgement i would have used it on Joker, since i tought that Pandar was gonna explode and toony was protected.If you had killed BroodyMoods instead, the Cult would have lost.
Still, a fun game. Damn you vector, our goal were not so different !
Post by: Vector on September 11, 2010, 09:21:57 pm
Also, things that made me actually lol:
Vektor talking to herself/dead scum for like ten pages
Vektor making...haiku? O_o
And:Quote from: VektorWait now it's
Jokerman x Solifuge x Vector x Broody
... Why is there suddenly a foursome? Whyyyyyyyy
Haha, I have to keep myself entertained somehow ^_^;; Scumchat is always loads of fun for me.
Post by: Elegy on September 11, 2010, 09:23:47 pm
"... Nya~?"
Hah.
Post by: IronyOwl on September 11, 2010, 09:39:24 pm
It should also have been pointed out that there IS NO SUCH THING AS CONFIRMATION IN A BYOR GAME! Seriously, I could straight-up post their role to the board and the first thing you should say is "not confirmed." They are only confirmed when the game has ended and I tell you their alignment. At any other point, there is a likely chance that someone may be lying, including me.This, as Vector's role so clearly pointed out.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 12, 2010, 12:40:03 am
And it was awesome.
And I was able to win.
I wonder what would have happened if I decided to hammer Vector instead.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 12, 2010, 01:06:34 am
Post by: Vector on September 12, 2010, 01:07:31 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 12, 2010, 01:07:47 am
Post by: webadict on September 12, 2010, 06:19:20 am
If Vector had been hammered, BluePuppet probably would have won - he had over half the cult (including me) ready for arson and only Vector kidnapping me saved me.Wrong. You weren't Primed. Org, Zai, Vector, and Lonewolf I were Primed.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 12, 2010, 06:23:46 am
Post by: webadict on September 12, 2010, 07:03:10 am
Indeed, i checked back and that was org and not you Pandar. Sorry for the confusion. Really the worst stumbling block was toony, since he needed to be lynched.ToonyMan was susceptible to Arson, actually. Only kill-type moves were ineffective.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 12, 2010, 07:06:26 am
If Vector had been hammered, BluePuppet probably would have won - he had over half the cult (including me) ready for arson and only Vector kidnapping me saved me.Wrong. You weren't Primed. Org, Zai, Vector, and Lonewolf I were Primed.
Indeed, i checked back and that was org and not you Pandar. Sorry for the confusion. Really the worst stumbling block was toony, since he needed to be lynched.
Aaah, okay.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 12, 2010, 07:59:32 am
Indeed, i checked back and that was org and not you Pandar. Sorry for the confusion. Really the worst stumbling block was toony, since he needed to be lynched.ToonyMan was susceptible to Arson, actually. Only kill-type moves were ineffective.
Short fuse, then
Post by: webadict on September 12, 2010, 08:22:38 am
Short fuse only activated on successful activation of Self-Defense. Since Self-Defense doesn't activate on being Arsoned, you were safe.Indeed, i checked back and that was org and not you Pandar. Sorry for the confusion. Really the worst stumbling block was toony, since he needed to be lynched.ToonyMan was susceptible to Arson, actually. Only kill-type moves were ineffective.
Short fuse, then
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 12, 2010, 08:30:50 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 12, 2010, 11:22:41 am
This game was mine!
Post by: webadict on September 12, 2010, 12:05:35 pm
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FFr_CL_FHPk/SbFjISgAtgI/AAAAAAAAJWg/hjbhbb_tG0Y/s400/Lelouch1.jpg)You were the one saying people were confirmed.
This game was mine!
Post by: Zai on September 12, 2010, 01:13:59 pm
This game was mine!Actually it was Pandar's but if you want to believe it was yours you can do so. Still wouldn't make you right, but it allows for us to laugh at you even more.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 12, 2010, 01:17:14 pm
(http://ib.skaia.net/image/1159.jpg)
Post by: Zai on September 12, 2010, 02:11:42 pm
And Equius's horns aren't turned up like that. They jut out.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 12, 2010, 02:28:11 pm