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Dwarf Fortress => DF Bug Reports => Topic started by: oolon1 on November 02, 2007, 11:08:00 am

Title: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: oolon1 on November 02, 2007, 11:08:00 am
"Once a beautiful tree..."  as if they're sad and insulted.

Meanwhile, there's over 4000$ worth of wooden armor, weapons, cages, and crafts in their caravan.  How dare they have this double standard!

I know this has been posted elsewhere, but I couldn't remember if it was in here.  If elves are offended by woodcrafting, they can't bring that stuff to trade to me.  It means either a) they are responsible for the woodcrafting, or b) they acquired the items through trade previously, both violations of this anti-woodcrafting code they seem to so fiercely uphold.

Bastards, but I'm guessing this is a bug.

Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: darkfred on November 02, 2007, 11:20:00 am
I believe they enchant the tree to grow the items from branch buds. Then when the items are complete they fall off the tree and it remains living.

See: most modern fantasy which includes elves. The second book of the 'Eragon' series explains this method in quite some detail.

Regards

Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: GauHelldragon on November 02, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
Elves are only morally opposed to OTHER races cutting down trees. Duh.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: seanb on March 10, 2011, 12:21:44 pm
Sorry i'm digging up an old topic, but i figured it was better than starting a topic anew about the same issue. Google found the thread for me.

I've got this problem right now, but the thing is i'm not trying to give the elves any wooden items. I'm trying to trade them Shell Crafts. They seem to think they are wood.

"Mame: Once a beautiful tree, and now? It is a rude bauble, fit only for your kind."

I don't have a lot of wood, so i wouldn't dare make wooden crafts. Is this worthy of a bug report? I'm in 31.20
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Os Q on March 10, 2011, 01:58:27 pm
It might be a bug if you're not trying to sell them bins of crafts (they won't buy wooden containers.) Could you tell us what kind of shell? (Mussel, turtle, cave lobster)
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Dwarfu on March 10, 2011, 04:26:02 pm
This board is defunct.

File a bug report on it http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/
(if it wasn't the wooden bins they were talking about)
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: martys1103 on March 11, 2011, 11:00:42 am
Elves aren't hippies, they are businessmen. They don't let you chop trees, they don't let you sell wood and do everything to make you depend on their wood, not yours or anyone's else. They try to make a worldwide monopoly, and we have to stop them. With magma.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on March 11, 2011, 11:03:52 am
that joke is also defunct
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: peterix on March 30, 2011, 03:17:57 pm
Quote from: kswaby10 on March 23, 2011, 10:20:20 pm
Lol, i think it's funny.
You on the other side aren't. You are a scumbag spammer idiot/bot. Or your machine is compromised by some forum spam malware.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on March 30, 2011, 07:08:48 pm
wow... creepy
are these guys getting more competent or was this just an amazing coincidence?
Title: The point is...
Post by: Murphy on May 02, 2011, 12:29:12 am
They will get offended even if you try to sell the things you bought off another elven caravan.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: NewsMuffin on May 21, 2011, 05:42:10 pm
What's with all of these necro's? I mean, I don't really care, but the last few topics I've looked through are all from 2007 or 2009.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on May 21, 2011, 05:58:23 pm
uh... u serious?
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Doom on June 01, 2011, 11:06:14 pm
Sorry to post here...but I canNOT figure out how to post a new message thread. Obviously, the forum is designed by the same folks that did the DF interface.

Anyway, the game crashes every time there's a combat. I've got it saved right before the most recent combat, with a minotaur. I can reload (and I have a backup saved)...and crash. Every time.

I'm using the most recent version of DF, using Ironhand's graphics mod.

And if I can get some clues, or maybe a wiki page on where the heck the 'new thread' button is, that would be cool, too. :)
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Darkmere on June 02, 2011, 12:53:20 am
That big block of text at the top that says bug reports are no longer posted in this forum, is serious. As are the posts in this thread saying that this forum is defunct. As am I.

*sigh* but since I had the same issue...

It's a truetype font bug. You'll have to change your font or disable truetype support in the init.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Doom on June 02, 2011, 02:32:18 pm
Yeah, I read the notice, but couldn't figure out how to post at the other site, either. Truly gifted interface design.

Thanks much, now at least I have a clue what to do, not that I know how to change my font in game. Or do I change the font somewhere else?
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Darkmere on June 02, 2011, 09:27:27 pm
Easiest way is to replace your df folder > data > art > font.ttf with another font file. Backup the first one in case something goes wrong.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Doom on June 03, 2011, 08:51:36 pm
I just turned off truefont, worked fine.

Next problem, I'm having goblin sieges. But, the goblins don't move, they just stand there. I gave them a whole season to come to my fortress, but no dice.

Eventually, I got bored and sent my dwarves out to bash them...the goblins fight back, and are kills.

Now, I've got another siege, and, once again, the goblins don't move. Looking at the 'bug tracker' I don't see anything like this.

So, here I m going to the well once again: is there an easy fix to this, too?
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Logical2u on June 04, 2011, 11:04:59 am
Quote from: Doom on June 03, 2011, 08:51:36 pm
Next problem, I'm having goblin sieges. But, the goblins don't move, they just stand there. I gave them a whole season to come to my fortress, but no dice.

Eventually, I got bored and sent my dwarves out to bash them...the goblins fight back, and are kills.

Now, I've got another siege, and, once again, the goblins don't move. Looking at the 'bug tracker' I don't see anything like this.

So, here I m going to the well once again: is there an easy fix to this, too?

Is your fortress accessible to the goblins? If you've created an impregnable fortress with walls, moats, locked doors (if they didn't bring trolls or other building destroyers) then the goblin pathfinding basically decides it can't reach your fortress and will instead wait for you to come to them.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Doom on June 04, 2011, 07:48:21 pm
My fortress is totally pregnable, it's not even two years old.

I have stone fall traps up all over, but there are quite a few paths right into the fortress that would miss them all. The only thing 'blocking' the entrance is a (microcline) road, built it right up to a downslope--if they can walk on the road, they can sure get in.

Any other guesses?
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Doom on June 04, 2011, 08:44:40 pm
Welp, the gobbos woke up and gave me a sound thrashing...lawdy, they must have triggered 50 different stone fall traps, and just kept coming. Maybe they stood around so long waiting to attack?

Ah well, I'll just have to pay more attention to defense next time around.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: hostergaard on February 22, 2012, 07:06:32 am
Quote from: seanb on March 10, 2011, 12:21:44 pm
Sorry i'm digging up an old topic, but i figured it was better than starting a topic anew about the same issue. Google found the thread for me.

I've got this problem right now, but the thing is i'm not trying to give the elves any wooden items. I'm trying to trade them Shell Crafts. They seem to think they are wood.

"Mame: Once a beautiful tree, and now? It is a rude bauble, fit only for your kind."

I don't have a lot of wood, so i wouldn't dare make wooden crafts. Is this worthy of a bug report? I'm in 31.20

Got the same problem, I managed to narrow it down to a crystal crown, apparently they tough it was made of wood.
Title: Re: Once a beautiful tree... (elf caravan issue)
Post by: Sus on February 22, 2012, 08:39:06 am
Quote from: hostergaard on February 22, 2012, 07:06:32 am
Quote from: seanb on March 10, 2011, 12:21:44 pm
Sorry i'm digging up an old topic, but i figured it was better than starting a topic anew about the same issue. Google found the thread for me.

I've got this problem right now, but the thing is i'm not trying to give the elves any wooden items. I'm trying to trade them Shell Crafts. They seem to think they are wood.

"Mame: Once a beautiful tree, and now? It is a rude bauble, fit only for your kind."

I don't have a lot of wood, so i wouldn't dare make wooden crafts. Is this worthy of a bug report? I'm in 31.20

Got the same problem, I managed to narrow it down to a crystal crown, apparently they tough it was made of wood.
1) Holy Thread Necromancy, Batman!

2) Crystal glass is made using pearlash, which is made from ash, which is made from... you know.