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Finally... => Life Advice => Topic started by: PsyberianHusky on January 06, 2011, 10:47:37 am

Title: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 06, 2011, 10:47:37 am
Hey its Tech support time I am having a minor problem with my taskbar freezing up for a little bit when I alt-tab out of games,
for 15 maybe 20 seconds, If I touch it it locks up more and I get a windows explorer crash.
Right now it maybe just a minor inconvenience, but I hate things going wrong and not knowing what is causing them.

Does Bay 12 have any idea what could be going on?
Maybe I can learn something from fixing this.
-Edit-

This is only a problem when running full-screen  application, everything in windowed mode I am able to flip seemly between
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: ed boy on January 06, 2011, 04:44:09 pm
When you say that the taskbar freezes, do you mean that the bar at the bottom with the list of programs becomes unresponsive?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 06, 2011, 05:42:17 pm
When you say that the taskbar freezes, do you mean that the bar at the bottom with the list of programs becomes unresponsive?

That is correct, and I am still able to alt tab while this is going on but the physical function of the bar is not working
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: ed boy on January 06, 2011, 08:31:00 pm
What OS are you using?
Does this always happen, or is it an intermittent problem?
Try changing the resolution and see if that also triggers the lockup.
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 06, 2011, 11:17:07 pm
I am running vista 64, it is an intermidiate problem that happens after I alt tab from fullscreen to windows and no other time to my knowledge. gonna try the resolution thing in a second, I think I know where ya are going with this, if resolution it is vidya card problem?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Falc on January 07, 2011, 03:53:07 am
If it also happens due to the resolution change, then yes it's graphics related but most likely your drivers and not the card itself.

Other question: do you have more than one hard drive in the PC? If yes, which one are your games installed on?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Cassicotca on January 07, 2011, 08:56:07 am
It might be graphics related but it might also be that windows is unloading the game from RAM. When you click the bar it tries to make the desktop active (explorer.exe) but with no free RAM it would just freeze and crash. It usually only takes a couple seconds on normal systems to make the desktop active, how much ram do you have?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Falc on January 07, 2011, 09:33:51 am
One further question: when you alt-tab out of the game, what do you see? Do you see a black screen or your game screen with the taskbar over it, or do you see your desktop/other windows and the taskbar?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Akura on January 07, 2011, 04:17:27 pm
Does it become unresponive like when a window becomes unresponsive? That happens to me sometimes, and I think it's just because the computer is too busy handling what it's already doing.
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 07, 2011, 04:25:13 pm
Okay so I just did a resolution change and the task bar locked up for a couple seconds.
and I do keep all my games on one drive, and have 8GB of DDR2 ram?

should I attempt to update my drivers?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Cassicotca on January 08, 2011, 03:26:17 am
A couple seconds lockup is normal and 8GB of RAM should be more then enough. Next thing to do would be updating the graphics driver and checking for viruses and see if it helps. I have games on a internal drive and a external USB drive and see no difference when tabbing.
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Astral on January 08, 2011, 02:57:36 pm
If possible, try to set games to a non-"Exclusive mode," or a full screened, borderless window. This'll allow faster tabbing (without some issues associated with tabbing out of a full screen game).

I've been having occasional taskbar lockups on a Win7x64 during startup, but I traced the problem to my antivirus using the Event Logger.
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 08, 2011, 03:07:59 pm
If possible, try to set games to a non-"Exclusive mode," or a full screened, borderless window. This'll allow faster tabbing (without some issues associated with tabbing out of a full screen game).

I've been having occasional taskbar lockups on a Win7x64 during startup, but I traced the problem to my antivirus using the Event Logger.

Thats a good idea,
Yea I know there are work arounds, and I kinda already have one myself, but part of the reason I try to fix things like this is cause I like to use them as a learning experience, I am probably going to try a safemode boot and see if I can find something out
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Virex on January 08, 2011, 08:23:53 pm
I have games on a internal drive and a external USB drive and see no difference when tabbing.
You shouldn't see any difference anyway, since the game's written to the PC's page file, which resides somewhere on your hard disk. One thing that might help though is to make sure your disk has plenty of unfragmented space to write the game to. Also, paging is mostly a function of the speed of your hard disk, with the RAM generally being a lot faster and the processor being an order of magnitude faster still. So if your disk is heavily fragmented or just slow you're going to experience long paging times, even if the rest of your PC is pretty fast.
This is of course assuming that there is paging going on, which is doubtful if you've got plenty of RAM, because stuff only gets send off to the disk if it needs to make space for other programs.
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 13, 2011, 07:50:04 pm
Is there a method to like reset my registry
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Kearn on January 16, 2011, 06:35:43 pm
Is there a method to like reset my registry

ccleaner

dont manually screw around in your registry you can cause it to kill itself
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: PsyberianHusky on January 17, 2011, 05:06:55 am
So my problem went away after a blue screen crash on start up and I chose to reload from last known good settings,
should I run anything on my comp to make sure everything is okay?
Title: Re: Taskbar lockups
Post by: Cassicotca on January 18, 2011, 11:53:48 am
So my problem went away after a blue screen crash on start up and I chose to reload from last known good settings,
should I run anything on my comp to make sure everything is okay?
CCleaner like the poster above suggested might be good but i would not worry much about it