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Title: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 08, 2011, 10:53:08 am
Yeah, I'm sick, and personally I'd like something to drink that won't either make me upchuck, or will react with the mucus in the back of my throat(like soda does), and isn't just water.

I'll still drink plenty of water mind you, but I like tasty drinks.

Now please... I want some serious advice. No deadly substances, no alchohol(just below the legal limit here anyway), no primordial ooze, no alien goo, no bodily substances(yes that includes milk and the silly sort of things), and damnit simply no bad advice, you are dealing with a sick man don't be an ass and make him vomit some more!

See that? I at least try to keep a somewhat humorous tone.

Oh, and I've tried lemonade just for the sake of it, could work but I don't know if it'll bite me later if I consume more.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Retro on January 08, 2011, 10:57:10 am
Tea. I enjoy it in general, but it's very nice and un-cloggy when you're sick.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 08, 2011, 10:59:06 am
Tea... I never tried tea...

Chances are I won't be able to get anything better than green, is there any other nationally offered types available?(USA)
Or should I go with that as it might be the best choice?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on January 08, 2011, 11:01:35 am
Cupasoup, or whatever Yankee brands you have, I always drink the stuff when I'm sick.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 11:08:12 am
Juice, many many kinds.
Rosehip soup (good stuff).
Black tea, I'm sure they sell some.
Green tea, either warm or iced.
Coffee.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 08, 2011, 11:16:15 am
Quote from: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 11:08:12 am
Juice, many many kinds.
I was wondering, how would V8 juice do? Or would that be a really bad idea?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 11:18:50 am
No idea. I've never had the stuff myself.

Try it if you want, and see how it works out.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Cthulhu on January 08, 2011, 11:19:14 am
V8 would probably be good for your immune system but I'd think it would make you puke if you're sick to your stomach.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Retro on January 08, 2011, 11:19:24 am
Some lemon-y tea variant would probably be the best if you're feeling clogged (lemon camomile comes to mind), but honestly, drinking something warm and hot alone that doesn't just taste like water will do wonders.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 08, 2011, 11:42:45 am
Well, tea and soup seem to be the order of the day.

Thanks for the input. And go ahead and keep the suggestions coming, I'm sure there are plenty of sick people around this time of year who could use it.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Miggy on January 08, 2011, 11:50:12 am
I like apple juice when I'm ill. It's quite contracting really, with the throat hurting you wouldn't generally want anything acidic back there, but the sugary goodness is too much to resist. It doesn't help your throat or your condition in general, but I've always been a sucker for it, and if you're looking for something else than just plain water...
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: iceball3 on January 08, 2011, 12:03:08 pm
Bah, I just pop open a can of canned pineapples and drink the juices from the can like those old fashioned fruity juice canned canned juice in a can.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Zrk2 on January 08, 2011, 12:52:15 pm
I'm going to go make myself some Neo Citrin, as I am also sick. It usually helps when I get sick.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: MetalSlimeHunt on January 08, 2011, 01:11:06 pm
It probably won't do much to help you get better, but I find that Sprite has weird properties when it comes to sick people. It certainly seems to make throwing up less likely whenever that's a posibility, and it does indeed remain tasty even while you are sick. Then again, you said soda reacted with the mucus in your throat, so I can give no promises on this.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: iceball3 on January 08, 2011, 01:14:30 pm
Quote from: MetalSlimeHunt on January 08, 2011, 01:11:06 pm
It probably won't do much to help you get better, but I find that Sprite has weird properties when it comes to sick people. It certainly seems to make throwing up less likely whenever that's a posibility, and it does indeed remain tasty even while you are sick. Then again, you said soda reacted with the mucus in your throat, so I can give no promises on this.
I always thought ginger ale did that...
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 08, 2011, 01:18:44 pm
Tea is very good for when I'm sick and generally makes me feel alot better, and with types of tea umm just the normal kind? Sorry I'm English so dont know what you yanks have :D we just have normal tea here never heard of green tea O.o. But also cause tea is just water and the leaf stuff you can then put sugar or milk in in depending on how your feeling, if your quite ill and sicky I suggest black tea (no milk) and no sugar.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ein on January 08, 2011, 01:19:40 pm
Quote from: iceball3 on January 08, 2011, 01:14:30 pm
Quote from: MetalSlimeHunt on January 08, 2011, 01:11:06 pm
It probably won't do much to help you get better, but I find that Sprite has weird properties when it comes to sick people. It certainly seems to make throwing up less likely whenever that's a posibility, and it does indeed remain tasty even while you are sick. Then again, you said soda reacted with the mucus in your throat, so I can give no promises on this.
I always thought ginger ale did that...
Real men drink Reed's Extra Ginger Brew.
I'm also going to recommend Emergen-C.
Gotta get that vitamin C and electrolytes.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Zrk2 on January 08, 2011, 01:55:39 pm
Quote from: iceball3 on January 08, 2011, 01:14:30 pm
Quote from: MetalSlimeHunt on January 08, 2011, 01:11:06 pm
It probably won't do much to help you get better, but I find that Sprite has weird properties when it comes to sick people. It certainly seems to make throwing up less likely whenever that's a posibility, and it does indeed remain tasty even while you are sick. Then again, you said soda reacted with the mucus in your throat, so I can give no promises on this.
I always thought ginger ale did that...

That's what I thought, but they have similar taste and carbonation...
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Vector on January 08, 2011, 02:41:47 pm
Quote from: SHAD0Wdump on January 08, 2011, 11:16:15 am
Quote from: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 11:08:12 am
Juice, many many kinds.
I was wondering, how would V8 juice do? Or would that be a really bad idea?

Don't drink that.  It's full of tomatoes and very acidic, which many people have trouble with even when they're feeling well.

When I'm sick, I usually drink tea full of chopped up raw garlic, lemon, and honey.  The garlic might be too much for your stomach if you're feeling so ill, though =/
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 03:13:07 pm
Quote from: Vector on January 08, 2011, 02:41:47 pm
Quote from: SHAD0Wdump on January 08, 2011, 11:16:15 am
Quote from: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 11:08:12 am
Juice, many many kinds.
I was wondering, how would V8 juice do? Or would that be a really bad idea?

Don't drink that.  It's full of tomatoes and very acidic, which many people have trouble with even when they're feeling well.

When I'm sick, I usually drink tea full of chopped up raw garlic, lemon, and honey.  The garlic might be too much for your stomach if you're feeling so ill, though =/

What

Raw garlic? Really?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Vector on January 08, 2011, 03:13:48 pm
Yeah, it's really tasty and heals you up fast :D
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 03:16:02 pm
Quote from: Vector on January 08, 2011, 03:13:48 pm
Yeah, it's really tasty and heals you up fast :D

Hmm. I ought to try that next time.

Thanks, Vector!
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 08, 2011, 03:46:47 pm
Quote from: Vector on January 08, 2011, 03:13:48 pm
Yeah, it's really tasty and heals you up fast :D

When you say tasty how are you eating it?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: iceball3 on January 08, 2011, 03:49:31 pm
Quote from: ScriptWolf on January 08, 2011, 03:46:47 pm
Quote from: Vector on January 08, 2011, 03:13:48 pm
Yeah, it's really tasty and heals you up fast :D

When you say tasty how are you eating it?
Raw of course! :3
How else are you supposed to eat garlic?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Vector on January 08, 2011, 03:50:10 pm
Boil water, put in cup, put in chopped up raw garlic, add some honey and lemon to taste (it actually tastes much worse if you're heavy on the honey).  Stir a little.

I drink/eat it all, with a spoon if necessary.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 08, 2011, 03:51:08 pm
Would sugar work too?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Vector on January 08, 2011, 03:52:32 pm
I really don't like sugar in this tea, but I also don't drink honey in my chai, either.

Honey helps with sore throats and diseases, whereas sugar actually causes inflammation.  For medicinal purposes, you'd better have honey, but if you can't get any I guess sugar could work.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Mazonas on January 08, 2011, 03:59:21 pm
Depends what you're ill with.  Herbal teas I would recommend, but not the rubbish fruit ones that taste of nothing.

Hot ginger tea - take some ground ginger, honey, lemon juice and add to boiling water, stir.  Great for preventing nausea.  Add a tiny drop or 2 of chilli if you're sniffly to help burn out what ails you.

Sweet Fennel tea - can buy nettle and sweet fennel teabags, make double strong (2 bags) and add a generous amount of honey or sugar - tastes like licqourice

Hibiscus and Rosehip - again you should be able ot buy it ready mixed - again needs lots of sugar.  Make it extra strong.  Great for all sorts of illnesses.

Ginger beer - again, great for nausea and the bubbles are refreshing

As for galric, yeah that is very good for you.  If raw garlic is too much, take a whole bulb, chip of the top 1cm, but bulb in tin foil with a thick slice of lemon and cook until garlic is softened.  Pop cooked cloves out and eat with lashings of good olive oil and soft bread.

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Sorry I'm English so dont know what you yanks have :D we just have normal tea here never heard of green tea O.o.

 ???  I'm English and last time I checked, the tea section of most supermarkets had green tea, as well as many more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELH0ivexKA

You're letting the side down, old boy!
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: sonerohi on January 08, 2011, 04:03:06 pm
Peppermint tea and orange juice.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Mindmaker on January 08, 2011, 05:06:48 pm
Tap water, mixed with honey and a bit of lemon juice, is always a good choice.
It's a good summer drink, as well, if you consume it cooled.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: nenjin on January 08, 2011, 08:12:21 pm
I was waiting for someone to say Ginger Ale.

That's been the stock "you're sick, drink this" beverage in my family for generations.

Add a little dry or whatever toast to that, and it will get you on the mend even if you have the pukies.

I only find Ginger Ale "ok" when I'm feeling normal. But when I'm feeling under the weather it's amazing.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on January 08, 2011, 08:15:03 pm
I don't know how anyone could stomach ginger in anything but tea.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: nenjin on January 08, 2011, 08:29:21 pm
The ginger flavor is pretty tame in ginger ale compared to most of its other uses. The closest I can compare it to is like Sprite, only not as sweet and a little tangier.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: MetalSlimeHunt on January 08, 2011, 08:33:37 pm
Clearly, there is some hidden and sinister connection between Sprite and ginger ale.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ein on January 08, 2011, 08:43:59 pm
Quote from: The Merchant Of Menace on January 08, 2011, 08:15:03 pm
I don't know how anyone could stomach ginger in anything but tea.

My drink of choice when available is Reed's Extra Ginger Brew.
On that note, I drink very finely-ground extra bold coffee black and complain about how sweet it tastes.
I don't think anyone knows how I can stomach these things.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: nenjin on January 08, 2011, 08:46:13 pm
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On that note, I drink very finely-ground extra bold coffee black and complain about how sweet it tastes.

That's.....crazy. Maybe you need to seek a career being a Sommelier. Put that refined palette to work!
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Mazonas on January 08, 2011, 08:55:56 pm
Old Jamaican ginger beer is my tipple of choice, ginger wise.  I find the sort of ginger ales that are provided in pubs here - the little bottles for mixing with whiskey - to be a bit bland
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: nenjin on January 08, 2011, 09:09:17 pm
It's that blandness and neutrality we've always attributed to making it a good drink for upset stomachs. Fizzy, mostly flavorless, with just a hint of ginger so it's not like drinking soda water.

It's also the preferred drink of his Neutralness.

(http://i.imgur.com/BOTQA.jpg)
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: SethCreiyd on January 09, 2011, 07:02:34 am
Ginger ale is the best for nausea.  I've been taking stomach-turning painkillers all week, and every time I feel sick I have a glass of the stuff.  It works!

Tea with honey is great for the throat, chamomile, lemon, ginger and peppermint are my favorites.  Juice is good, but you may want to mix anything citrus with water so it isn't too acidic.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: tomas1297 on January 09, 2011, 07:05:24 am
 Newest post: Tasty drinks while s...
 I immediately thought "stoned". Thanks for a laugh.
 Anyway, tea is great. Especially herbal tea or tea with honey.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 09, 2011, 07:10:06 am
Tea is great when I'm sick. I don't necessarily mean black tea, I mean all kinds of things. Chai can be stimulating if you need that, and mint-based teas are refreshing (a hot drink made out of mint can feel really nice if you've got something going on in your respiratory tract or other head apertures. There are so many damn drinks people make out of plants, there's something for every occasion, and drinking a hot beverage in general is soothing.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Lordinquisitor on January 09, 2011, 09:55:22 am
Hot Rum with sugar. Helps always.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Artifakt on January 10, 2011, 01:17:01 am
My personal favorite drink when I'm sick is hot peach tea (or an herbal infusion for you purist types) with a small amount of Crystal Light or similar lemonade mix (add while stirring until you can't see through your tea anymore) and then a teaspoon of agave or honey. Incidentally, this is also my favorite drink when I'm not sick.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: DeKaFu on January 10, 2011, 02:23:28 am
When I've been throwing up, my personal choice has always been sports drinks like Gatorade. They tend to be incredibly bland, non-acidic and easy on the stomach. They don't gum up my throat mucus like soft drinks do, and I find the flavoring helps me keep it down when plain water is making me gag. Good for fighting dehydration, which is a concern with vomiting.

I mean, I wouldn't call them tasty. I can't stand them any time when I'm not sick. But they've saved my stomach many a time.

If you just have a sore throat, an herbal tea can be nice and soothing. I tend to try to avoid caffeine since generally the best thing you can do when sick is sleep as much as possible.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: grey9 on January 10, 2011, 04:16:35 pm
Ramen broth; it is really slaty and more of a meal than a drink but the steam will clear up your sinuses
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Cthulhu on January 10, 2011, 04:31:57 pm
Maybe I'm weird but when I have a sore throat I like caustic or abrasive things.  Soda crackers, Cola, all that stuff.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 10, 2011, 04:33:30 pm
Quote from: Cthulhu on January 10, 2011, 04:31:57 pm
Maybe I'm weird but when I have a sore throat I like caustic or abrasive things.  Soda crackers, Cola, all that stuff.

Try gargling warm, heavily-salted water. It helps when your throat is sore. Don't swallow it, obviously.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Nikov on January 10, 2011, 04:39:06 pm
Ginger ale is great. And if you have an infection, try the chemical warfare option. Hydrogen peroxide.

Don't try it too hard, though.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on January 10, 2011, 04:40:59 pm
Hydrogen... peroxide.
Seriously?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Levi on January 10, 2011, 04:44:16 pm
For some reason if I'm dead sick (or hungover) I really really enjoy chai tea without milk.  No clue why.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 10, 2011, 04:55:18 pm
Quote from: The Merchant Of Menace on January 10, 2011, 04:40:59 pm
Hydrogen... peroxide.
Seriously?

A mixture of that and water (about equal proportion, assuming you start with drugstore 3% hydrogen peroxide) can work well as a debriding agent. Just, you know, don't swallow the stuff.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2011, 10:25:50 pm
Quote from: G-Flex on January 10, 2011, 04:55:18 pm
Quote from: The Merchant Of Menace on January 10, 2011, 04:40:59 pm
Hydrogen... peroxide.
Seriously?

A mixture of that and water (about equal proportion, assuming you start with drugstore 3% hydrogen peroxide) can work well as a debriding agent. Just, you know, don't swallow the stuff.

Yeah, I used to gargle with it/use it on my wounds, but then I heard that it apparently can cause some serious scarring problems along with burning like hell.

So I don't use it anymore, except in particularly necessary occasions.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Aqizzar on January 10, 2011, 10:36:37 pm
It can also fuck up your teeth, for entirely obvious reasons.  Especially if you have preexisting cavities.

While sick myself, I've been drinking a lot of V8 vegetable juice.  I don't know if it "helps" or anything, but among the few things that I can still tastes and tastes good.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 10, 2011, 10:37:26 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on January 10, 2011, 10:36:37 pm
It can also fuck up your teeth, for entirely obvious reasons.  Especially if you have preexisting cavities.

While sick myself, I've been drinking a lot of V8 vegetable juice.  I don't know if it "helps" or anything, but among the few things that I can still tastes and tastes good.

V8 is pretty great though.

How does H2O2 mess up your teeth, though? I'm not finding that obvious.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ein on January 10, 2011, 10:38:53 pm
H2O2 is rocket fuel.
I think I'll stick with alcohol.
On that note, rubbing alcohol makes horrible impromptu mouthwash.
Taste stayed in my mouth for at least 12 hours.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Aqizzar on January 10, 2011, 10:39:28 pm
Quote from: G-Flex on January 10, 2011, 10:37:26 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on January 10, 2011, 10:36:37 pm
It can also fuck up your teeth, for entirely obvious reasons.  Especially if you have preexisting cavities.

How does H2O2 mess up your teeth, though? I'm not finding that obvious.

...Hydrogen peroxide dissolves almost everything.  Tooth enamel being among them, but the softer tissues underneath the enamel are really vulnerable.  All I know is, I tried using very small amounts of drugstore H2O2 as a mouthwash for a little while, and my dentist looked at me like I was crazy.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: eerr on January 10, 2011, 11:12:24 pm
What about ocean spray?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 11, 2011, 02:53:27 am
Quote from: Aqizzar on January 10, 2011, 10:39:28 pm
...Hydrogen peroxide dissolves almost everything.  Tooth enamel being among them, but the softer tissues underneath the enamel are really vulnerable.  All I know is, I tried using very small amounts of drugstore H2O2 as a mouthwash for a little while, and my dentist looked at me like I was crazy.

I want to say that it's just too harsh to use commonly, and there's not much reason to do it. However, I'd like to see information on H2O2 dissolving enamel, as I've never heard of that before. I can see it causing irritation to soft tissue, but I don't see why it would dissolve enamel of all things, or for that matter, dissolve much that water can't. I'm doing some cursory reading on this, and it seems that peroxide-based whitening agents don't really have an effect on the structural properties of teeth, and a hydrogen peroxide mouth rinse is certainly weaker than that (about 1.5% concentration). Hell, maybe that was your part of your problem; you're supposed to dilute the stuff, and you didn't. That, and using that stuff every day probably caused a bit of irritation to your mouth.

Seriously, I've never heard of H2O2 as being a very useful solvent. I swear you're thinking of some other substance.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 06:58:33 am
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Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Ricky on January 11, 2011, 01:37:49 pm
Quote from: Rooster on January 11, 2011, 06:58:33 am
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Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Miggy on January 11, 2011, 06:43:54 pm
Quote from: G-Flex on January 11, 2011, 02:53:27 am
Seriously, I've never heard of H2O2 as being a very useful solvent. I swear you're thinking of some other substance.

Hydrogen Peroxide is a great solvent because it can act as both a powerful oxidizing and weak reduction agent. It naturally dissociates, but if it can take another substance with it, it'll gladly do that. It doesn't dissolve substances in the same way water does, it tears apart the substance, then the torn apart substance is dissolved. It works like Nitric acid, except it can also act as a reducing agent.

Because of this it is also extremely toxic to just about anything in humans. I thought the H2O2 mouthwash was a joke until people started talking about 3% concentrations. :D
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 11, 2011, 08:00:49 pm
I agree with G-Flex. Low concentrations of oxygenated water shouldn't be bad for your teeth. It ought to neutralize acidicic pHs (thus decreasing calcium solubility) (edit: HAHAHA, disregard that), and kill the bacteria causing them. I'd still advise not to overdo it,  but because of concerns for the soft tissues in the mouth, rather than the teeth themselves.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 12, 2011, 02:12:31 am
Quote from: ChairmanPoo on January 11, 2011, 08:00:49 pm
I agree with G-Flex. Low concentrations of oxygenated water shouldn't be bad for your teeth.

Hydrogen Peroxide is not "oxygenated water". Oxygenated water is water with O2 dissolved in it. H2O2 is not water at all.

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It ought to neutralize acidicic pHs (thus decreasing calcium solubility) in the mouth, and kill the bacteria causing them.

You sure about this? I'm pretty sure H2O2 is neutral in itself. However, some bleaching solutions in general are acidic.

Quote from: Miggy on January 11, 2011, 06:43:54 pm
Hydrogen Peroxide is a great solvent because it can act as both a powerful oxidizing and weak reduction agent. It naturally dissociates, but if it can take another substance with it, it'll gladly do that. It doesn't dissolve substances in the same way water does, it tears apart the substance, then the torn apart substance is dissolved. It works like Nitric acid, except it can also act as a reducing agent.

Well, I know it's an oxidizing agent, but I don't consider it to be a "solvent" in the normal sense if it's actually initiating a chemical change (aside from disassociating ions and that sort of thing) in the substance it's dissolving.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 12, 2011, 03:54:03 am
Quote from: G-Flex on January 12, 2011, 02:12:31 am
Quote from: ChairmanPoo on January 11, 2011, 08:00:49 pm
I agree with G-Flex. Low concentrations of oxygenated water shouldn't be bad for your teeth.

Hydrogen Peroxide is not "oxygenated water". Oxygenated water is water with O2 dissolved in it. H2O2 is not water at all.
Oxygenated water is a common term for hydrogen peroxide, particularily when dilluted
Quote from: G-Flex on January 12, 2011, 02:12:31 am
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It ought to neutralize acidicic pHs (thus decreasing calcium solubility) in the mouth, and kill the bacteria causing them.
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You sure about this? I'm pretty sure H2O2 is neutral in itself. However, some bleaching solutions in
general are acidic.
I'm pretty sure it's acts as a base
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 12, 2011, 04:07:11 am
Quote from: ChairmanPoo on January 12, 2011, 03:54:03 am
Oxygenated water is a common term for hydrogen peroxide, particularily when dilluted

I've never heard this before, and that's a rather strange and misleading term for it. If people call it that, though, then that's not exactly my decision.

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Yes, I'm sure. Hydrogen peroxide is quite basic

I don't see how that's even possible, given what I know of acid/base chemistry and what H2O2 is. If anything, I'd think it should be slightly acidic.

From what little I can find on the subject, it seems that the pH varies depending on concentration, and is generally somewhat acidic. All references to "alkaline hydrogen peroxide" I can really find seem to suggest that it refers to an alkaline solution containing it (for instance, a solution also containing NaOH).
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Miggy on January 12, 2011, 04:23:31 am
I would think hydrogen peroxide is perfectly neutral in itself. When it dissociates it turns into water and oxygen (2 H_2O_2 => 2H_2O + O_2). Might be why people refer to it as oxygenated water? I'll admit I've never heard the term myself, but I'm not natively english either.

It should be noted though that it acts as a base when oxidizing, and as an acid when reducing, so that might be where the variety in pH comes from. It depends on what you mix it with.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 12, 2011, 04:33:02 am
I stand corrected. A search for "Hydrogen peroxide's pH"  reports it being weakly acidicic.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 12, 2011, 04:47:53 am
It certainly does have odd properties, and the acidic properties of it do seem fairly variable (even water is a little odd in that respect), and it does seem to act differently on things when it's in an acidic vs. an alkaline solution.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Farseer on January 12, 2011, 05:03:15 am
I suggest a hot drink (heats up your throat and should expand it's size a bit, it also seems to work well with dealing with mucus).

My drink of choice whilst sick is hot chocolate.

Or are we discussing hydrogen peroxide, now? Use that if you want to bleach your hair!
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 06:54:17 am
Re: H202

Don't. Just.....don't. I grew up with two scientists, one a chemist, so I've been fed some pretty non-standard stuff in my time. H202 is not safe, even if it doesn't do a lot of damage in low concentrations. Anything you pour on an open wound that actually cooks the flesh is not something you want to put in your mouth.

I swear, when did chemicals become a substitute for doing something the normal way regularly?

"I hate brushing my teeth, but a 2% concentration of sulfuric acid does the trick!"
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 13, 2011, 07:04:40 am
I was wrong about H2O2 pH, but I stand by my original comment as to its safety. It is routinedly used as a an antiseptic and hemostatic agent, and yes, as mouth rinse. Just avoid abusing it.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: Miggy on January 13, 2011, 07:27:35 am
Quote from: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 06:54:17 am
I swear, when did chemicals become a substitute for doing something the normal way regularly?

"I hate brushing my teeth, but a 2% concentration of sulfuric acid does the trick!"

You do realize that chemicals are abundant in toothpaste, right? :D

And yeah, sorry for driving this thread insane off-topic, but it's not every day I can actually use my on-going chemistry education to do anything outside of the education itself. :>
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on January 13, 2011, 07:29:27 am
Well, can we agree that it's at the very least, not tasty?
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: ChairmanPoo on January 13, 2011, 07:36:36 am
Quote from: Miggy on January 13, 2011, 07:27:35 am


And yeah, sorry for driving this thread insane off-topic, but it's not every day I can actually use my on-going chemistry education to do anything outside of the education itself. :>

I actually think it's a good thing to engage in this kind of thing, for everyone involved. For the one doing the exposition, by reviewing the stuff he gets to know it better, and potentially notice weak points he has to improve. And the ones receiving it get a free lesson on the matter. I think it's win-win
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 01:04:59 pm
Quote from: Miggy on January 13, 2011, 07:27:35 am
Quote from: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 06:54:17 am
I swear, when did chemicals become a substitute for doing something the normal way regularly?

"I hate brushing my teeth, but a 2% concentration of sulfuric acid does the trick!"

You do realize that chemicals are abundant in toothpaste, right? :D


Of course. But not the "kind my chemistry teacher keeps in a clear glass jar" kind of chemicals. I see it along the same lines as "Why buy matches, just use flint over some magnesium, same diff!"

 
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: iceball3 on January 13, 2011, 05:37:44 pm
Quote from: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 01:04:59 pm
Quote from: Miggy on January 13, 2011, 07:27:35 am
Quote from: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 06:54:17 am
I swear, when did chemicals become a substitute for doing something the normal way regularly?

"I hate brushing my teeth, but a 2% concentration of sulfuric acid does the trick!"

You do realize that chemicals are abundant in toothpaste, right? :D


Of course. But not the "kind my chemistry teacher keeps in a clear glass jar" kind of chemicals. I see it along the same lines as "Why buy matches, just use flint over some magnesium, same diff!"
Or "throw some powdered aluminum on that rusty pole and begin shooting it with tracer bullets!"  ::)
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: G-Flex on January 14, 2011, 10:42:24 pm
Quote from: Miggy on January 13, 2011, 07:27:35 am
Quote from: nenjin on January 13, 2011, 06:54:17 am
I swear, when did chemicals become a substitute for doing something the normal way regularly?

"I hate brushing my teeth, but a 2% concentration of sulfuric acid does the trick!"

You do realize that chemicals are abundant in toothpaste, right? :D

And that everything is chemicals. People seem to have this warped idea that anything good/natural isn't "chemicals" whereas anything bad/artificial is.

H2O2 "literally cooking the flesh" (whatever that means) isn't necessarily a bad thing. First off, many things irritate your own cells for similar reasons that they are useful against microorganisms (see: alcohol). Secondly, sometimes you want to tell the damaged and dead flesh on a wound (or somewhere else) to screw off. That's where debriding agents like H2O2 come into play.

Also, while H2O2 can certainly be dangerous, keep in mind you're also diluting it a lot.
Title: Re: Tasty drinks while sick.
Post by: quinnr on January 15, 2011, 01:45:05 am
Hot chocolate is always something I drink when I am sick. Way better than bitter coffee.