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Title: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 01, 2011, 06:26:32 pm
alright what are the steps to check if my ISP isn't screwing me with this. i know wikipedia is up cause i took my laptop to school and it works there. why would they even block it?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: ein on February 01, 2011, 06:33:39 pm
Try Tor. (http://www.torproject.org/)
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 01, 2011, 06:34:58 pm
i said check, not go around.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: ein on February 01, 2011, 06:37:26 pm
That is how you check.
If you can connect through Tor or a proxy, then your ISP is screwing with you.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 01, 2011, 06:40:25 pm
damnit i did, DAMN YOU QWEST.
Title: Re: smarts
Post by: Kearn on February 01, 2011, 07:55:30 pm
very such
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 01, 2011, 07:57:37 pm
Quote from: Kearn on February 01, 2011, 07:55:30 pm
do a hard-reset on your router and modem
that resets the gateway to factory default and will leave me pissed with customer service, ill wait until its ip address is renewed and see what happens.



edit: i even use the ping and traceroute tool on my gateway, Qwest is definity blocking wikipedia.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 09:01:13 am
well the ip renewed and wikis back up, still don't know whhy it was block but the problem is solve.


edit: spoke too fucking soon, its official that its being blocked but why?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: ChairmanPoo on February 02, 2011, 11:37:57 am
possibly the firewall is hiccuping. ALl these retarded netnanny systems tend to be prone to censor stuff at random
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 01:02:32 pm
im on my own laptop with no watchdog in it (i hope), i know its not a firewall.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 02, 2011, 01:08:29 pm
An ISP wouldn't block Wikipedia, of all things.

If you can't connect to a website:

Quote from: Tellemurius on February 01, 2011, 07:57:37 pm
edit: i even use the ping and traceroute tool on my gateway, Qwest is definity blocking wikipedia.

Being able to ping your gateway (generally the router) has nothing to do with your ability to access a website, although it does mean that you're probably connected to your own network just fine (but you knew that already). Or are you trying to say something else?

Also, what do you mean by "reset gateway to factory default"?


At any rate, if the problem is name resolution, try running ipconfig /flushdns. Otherwise, I'm not really sure what would be going on, although tracert might provide a clue. Paste the results of whatever command returns a failure of any sort?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 06:49:21 pm
the ping and traceroute tool on my gateway works as gateway to server. its fricking qwest i know it just fricking why?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 02, 2011, 06:51:07 pm
Quote from: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 06:49:21 pm
the ping and traceroute tool on my gateway works as gateway to server. its fricking qwest i know it just fricking why?

You mean that you're running those commands on your router and it still isn't working? If so, what actually fails, and what are the traceroute results?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 06:52:06 pm
it works the same as the computer version just based from the gateway.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 02, 2011, 06:53:20 pm
Ha, yeah, I just edited my post after realizing that's what you meant. Seriously though, paste the traceroute results or something, and does the domain name even resolve?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 06:54:53 pm
there was no resolve, says couldn't connect



ok the problem seems to be fixed but im waiting till tomorrow, this is a weird case for me.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Blank Expression on February 02, 2011, 07:20:39 pm
Qwest et al. have no rational reason to block Wikipedia.

More likely is that your DNS servers are a box of fail.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Virex on February 02, 2011, 07:49:28 pm
A failing DNS server should affect more people then him alone though, yet I canīt find many complaining about problems. What does Tracert say? If you end up in a dead end then maybe there's something wrong with the network architecture at that point and the internet hasn't been able to reconfigure yet.


edit: Scratch that, not being able to resolve it means a failing DNS somewhere. To fix it you'd somehow need to tell your PC to request the IP from a different DNS, though how that would work I don't know.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Sergius on February 03, 2011, 10:18:37 am
You could try setting the DNS servers by hand.

8.8.8.8 is google's main, I think. THere's also OpenDNS.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 03, 2011, 04:54:30 pm
Quote from: Tellemurius on February 02, 2011, 06:54:53 pm
there was no resolve, says couldn't connect



ok the problem seems to be fixed but im waiting till tomorrow, this is a weird case for me.

The domain name wasn't resolved at all? Why didn't you say that before?

Honestly, when you're looking for help with these things, you ought to paste/copy exactly what the results of the commands are, that way there aren't communication breakdowns like these. It's been several posts just to get this little bit of information, which is crucial to actually figuring out the problem, whereas if you had supplied this information to begin with, preferably by saying the exact results of what you tried to do, it would have been done by now. "I can't resolve the domain name" says a whole lot more than "I can't get to Wikipedia".


Have you messed with the DNS settings on your router, or no? If so, then whatever you set them to is probably the problem, and if not, try to. I use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. Preferably set these on your router, not your computer's TCP/IP configuration.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 03, 2011, 04:56:37 pm
i dunno alright, i mostly handle the computer stuff and barely ask online. i bitched at qwest and they said something about some security bullshit >.>
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 03, 2011, 05:55:03 pm
What security bullshit? At their end or yours?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 03, 2011, 05:56:58 pm
their end apparently, if it was my end i would expected a notice or something.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 04, 2011, 03:10:41 am
Why would they send you a notice if you had a problem on your network?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Captain Mayday on February 04, 2011, 05:06:08 am
Can you ping 208.80.152.2?
If you can, it's a DNS issue.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 04, 2011, 10:17:20 am
Quote from: G-Flex on February 04, 2011, 03:10:41 am
Why would they send you a notice if you had a problem on your network?
im on a dedicated line, im paying for the extra shit and they called me last time when they were going to shut down for maintenence.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 04, 2011, 04:37:58 pm
again? ok what is wrong with their DNS servers now?
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 04, 2011, 09:27:32 pm
Quote from: Tellemurius on February 04, 2011, 10:17:20 am
Quote from: G-Flex on February 04, 2011, 03:10:41 am
Why would they send you a notice if you had a problem on your network?
im on a dedicated line, im paying for the extra shit and they called me last time when they were going to shut down for maintenence.

I said on your network, not your connection to them. They wouldn't know or even particularly care about a problem with your router or computer unless it's violating terms of service or otherwise screwing things up. For instance, I could set my router to use some bullshit IP address for DNS services, or mess up my Windows TCP/IP configuration in any number of ways, and my ISP wouldn't magically know this, and even if they did, they wouldn't care because it's not their problem.


Listen to Captain Mayday. Try to ping that IP address. Tell us what happens.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 04, 2011, 09:30:19 pm
ok i pinged it and got 86ms so i guess the DNS server is the bitch of the week. i'll try to map out to what my DNS servers are and see wtf is their problem.




this is my traceroute report from my gateway:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 04, 2011, 09:36:38 pm
Okay, so your ISP is having DNS issues, probably. Just change the DNS servers your router is using, as was suggested earlier, and you should be fine.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Retro on February 04, 2011, 11:55:51 pm
Quote from: G-Flex on February 04, 2011, 09:36:38 pm
Okay, so your ISP is having DNS issues, probably. Just change the DNS servers your router is using, as was suggested earlier, and you should be fine.

[citation needed]
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Arni on February 05, 2011, 05:32:20 am
As a little idea off the main track; you could check the hosts file if there is something off (like wikipedia set on some random ip...)
Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: G-Flex on February 05, 2011, 05:36:45 am
Quote from: Arni on February 05, 2011, 05:32:20 am
As a little idea off the main track; you could check the hosts file if there is something off (like wikipedia set on some random ip...)
Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

He already said that he tried checking from the router itself. This could not be the problem. It's likely Qwest's DNS servers being terrible about something.
Title: Re: I can't connect to wikipedia?
Post by: Tellemurius on February 05, 2011, 08:44:45 am
Quote from: Arni on February 05, 2011, 05:32:20 am
As a little idea off the main track; you could check the hosts file if there is something off (like wikipedia set on some random ip...)
Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
im only using dummy ip's for the hosts file and those are used for ad blocking.