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Dwarf Fortress => DF Dwarf Mode Discussion => Topic started by: Girlinhat on February 03, 2011, 08:10:03 pm

Title: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Girlinhat on February 03, 2011, 08:10:03 pm
I'm thinking about playing a vanilla (or nearly vanilla) world with the sole intent to make some megaprojects, for the sheer joy of stonesense and also adventurer mayhem.  Small maps, 2x2 or even 1x1 with invasions off and a strict pop cap to ensure high FPS and ease of play.  Possibly with no parent civ and only the two migrant waves and babies.  The only issue is, ideas.  Current ideas are basically "inverted fort" where the fort goes upwards instead of into the ground, or the exact opposite, a pit all the way down to the magma sea with living spaces set into the walls of the cavern, or any manner of creative things.

Basically, what's something cool that you've wanted to see in Stonesense or other visualizer, but have never had the patience and waste of time to perform?
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: SirAaronIII on February 03, 2011, 08:28:49 pm
A huge stick figure or something similar.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Girlinhat on February 03, 2011, 08:31:30 pm
Actually, given the available color pallet, I could manage some sprites, use boxite for red hair, microcline for blue robes, and make some enormous pictures via method of Minecraft.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: NewSheoth on February 03, 2011, 09:24:51 pm
Build gigantic letters spelling out your name. Then make some pixelart nearby.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Bererez on February 03, 2011, 09:26:41 pm
Screw rocks, use gem windows. You can animate your pixel art.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on February 03, 2011, 09:39:11 pm
Quote from: Bererez on February 03, 2011, 09:26:41 pm
Screw rocks, use gem windows. You can animate your pixel art.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Hans Lemurson on February 04, 2011, 03:56:43 am
Quote from: Urist Imiknorris on February 03, 2011, 09:39:11 pm
Quote from: Bererez on February 03, 2011, 09:26:41 pm
Screw rocks, use gem windows. You can animate your pixel art.
Now THAT is a mega-project.  How the devil would you get the timing right though?
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Urist Da Vinci on February 04, 2011, 04:03:26 am
Quote from: Hans Lemurson on February 04, 2011, 03:56:43 am
Quote from: Urist Imiknorris on February 03, 2011, 09:39:11 pm
Quote from: Bererez on February 03, 2011, 09:26:41 pm
Screw rocks, use gem windows. You can animate your pixel art.
Now THAT is a mega-project.  How the devil would you get the timing right though?

Easy. If the timing is wrong, disassemble and then reassemble. Perhaps the timing also depends on the order the gems are selected in, or the order in which the gems are brought to the construction site?
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Hans Lemurson on February 04, 2011, 05:54:13 am
Right, but dwarves are notorious for not doing what you want them to at EXACTLY the time you intend.

It probably won't matter though, since I suspect the color-cycling to be tied to the same process by which DF cycles through multiple creatures/objects occupying the same tile.

I need to experiment with gem windows now, see for myself how the color-cycling works.  Does the game ACTUALLY take the "order" of gems into account? 

And what can you do with 3 frames of animation?  That's enough for "travelling dots" down a line, so maybe I could make landing-lights to guide-in dwarven airships.  Can you get a "walking" effect with just 3 frames if I wanted to try to make an animated dwarf?
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Qinetix on February 04, 2011, 05:55:34 am
Hmmm... A ice statue?
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Girlinhat on February 04, 2011, 07:15:12 am
Gem windows, interesting.  I'm not sure entirely what could be done with that, but there's potential for sure.  Perhaps have them coursing up the sides of a tower, with 2 blue and 1 red, so that it has the landing strip effect.  do gem windows work in stonesense as well?
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Funtimes on February 04, 2011, 07:49:14 am
Quote from: Girlinhat on February 04, 2011, 07:15:12 am
Gem windows, interesting.  I'm not sure entirely what could be done with that, but there's potential for sure.

Well, you could try to recreate the neon sign outside most sex shops.

But I would go for a similar theme involving an axe meeting a goblin's neck. Axe, swing, blood spurting everywhere.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Minnakht on February 04, 2011, 07:51:16 am
Well, if you need ideas... in Heroes of Might and Magic V, there is a purely dwarf faction.

You could recreate the city...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And recreate the fact they ride on bears (kind of).
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Girlinhat on February 04, 2011, 07:54:46 am
I'd had that idea, a sort of "geothermic borehole" type fort.  Only problem is that it doesn't visualize well on any working visualizers, since you can't look down.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Funtimes on February 04, 2011, 07:55:23 am
I've already been planning that idea for a while. A whole fortress built around a 200z hole.
Title: Re: Sandbox Megaproject
Post by: Lamphare on February 04, 2011, 08:35:57 am
once i had that thought.
so i modded dwarf to be working at lightspeed, without any need of drink, food nor rest.
and invader, temperature n' weather are off.
reaction making many types of free stone, ore, wood, including blue cotton candy.

then i got bored with keysmashing so i returned to normal dwarfs.