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Title: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 09:59:59 am

Quote from: Vector on February 03, 2011, 01:31:24 pm

I've been looking at some of the more recent games and we need a BM ASAP.

I am not even kidding.

She's not even kidding, folks.

Welcome to Beginner's Mafia! This is the twentieth run of our Beginner's Mafia series.

In Beginner's Mafia, you will be pitted up with a Town IC (Inexperienced Challenged) who will help you play the game, and will be just as clueless, if not more so, about the setup as you, and a Mafia IC, who will be helping out the Mafia.

In Mafia, you are divided into two parts: Town and Mafia:
If you are Town, your goal is to lynch the Mafia. You do this by convincing others that one of the group is scum, and getting enough votes on them to lynch them.  The Town does not know who else is Town.
If you are Mafia, your goal is to kill off the Town until there is an equal number of them to you by getting them to lynch other Town or by killing them. You are given a kill each Night to kill any player in the game.  All the Mafia members know each other, and can communicate privately.

Each Day, everyone votes to lynch a player.  Vote for a player by posting their name in red.  You may change your vote at any time, remove your vote, or vote for No Lynch. Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day gets lynched, even if there is no majority. (Example: Nobody votes except for one guy, who votes Generic_Steve. Generic_Steve would get lynched).

The day will not end prematurely unless people vote to shorten the day. That is, there is no "hammer" in Beginner's Mafia, where X amount of votes (typically 51%) on a single person immediately ends the day with a lynch on that person. Some games do that, but not this one, and you would be explicitly informed in the rules if the hammer is active.

If there are tied votes for who gets lynched at the end of the day, the day ends in a no-lynch. (Two people vote for Generic_Steve, two people vote for Unassuming_Mary. Nobody gets lynched) 

Each Night, you send in your actions. The cycle continues until one side wins. Days are 48 hours and nights are 24 hours. Weekends count for zero hours.

Game rules:

• You may not PM other players. The mafia will have a place to talk to themselves.
• Never edit your posts, even to fix typos!  If you make a mistake, just double post- it's permitted here. Violation of this rule can lead to deadly repercussions.  I recommend using the preview button every time you post.
• Never quote your role PM or any other PM sent to you by the mod.
• If you need more time to discuss, you may ask for an extension.  If 1/3 of players ask for one, the day will be extended by 24 hours.
• • There are only two extensions allowed per day
• Please don't forget about this game if you sign up! If you cannot continue playing, please ask for a replacement! I will prod you via PM if you do not post in 36 hours to remind you that this game exists!
• • Upon receiving your third prod, you are modkilled (removed from the game) for inactivity. Beware.
• Upon being killed, you are entitled to one "Bah!" post, but you are not allowed to post any game-related content. After your Bah post, you MUST NOT POST AGAIN unless you somehow come back to life (impossible in this setup) or replace back in (you must have been town to do this). Failure to comply with this rule can lead to a bad reputation amongst mods, and difficulty in joining other games.
  
• Never underestimate your importance, and always play to win!

In this setup, there are the possibility of extra roles. These roles are Cop and Doctor for Town, and Roleblocker and Godfather for Mafia.

• A Cop inspects any player at Night. They are told that player's alignment, but not their role.
• A Doctor may protect any player at Night. This stops that player from being killed.
• A Roleblocker stops an extra role from using an action. This stops Doctors and Cops but does nothing for Townies.
• • Roleblockers do not actually discover if their attempts were successful or not; that would be too powerful because the roleblocker would know they found a town power role. It isn't an investigative role (the same goes for the Doctor)! The Mafia needs to find the town power roles the old-fashioned way: analyzing behavior and voting patterns.
• A Godfather, if investigated by a Cop, looks just like a normal townie.

There is a 50% chance for any of these roles to show up. It is possible to end up with no extra roles.

Extensions require support from at least 33% of the players.  You may oppose extensions as well, which cancels out an extension request.  For example, if there were five players, with two requesting and one opposing, there would be no extension.  (2-1 = 1 of 5, which is 20%)

Along with opposing extensions, there is also the option to Shorten the Day or End the Day. They both work just like extensions, 33% required to pass with no objections. Shorten the Day removes 24 hours from the day (or ends it instantly if there are less than 24 hours left) and End the Day makes the day end as quickly as I can process it. Due to the nature of these requests, they also act just like Counter-Extensions.

Please bold requests/opposition to extensions, or Mod/my name if you want to ask me a question in-thread.  (IE: Mod: I have a question!)

Players: (9/9)

• chewie, normal townie, murdered Night 1
• TolyK, Brain Creature, won the game
• Darvi, normal townie, murdered Night 2
• SaintDraze, normal townie, lynched Day 2
• lordnincompoop, Brain Creature, won the game
• Tyberix, , Doctor, killed in endgame
• Zrk2, normal townie, killed in endgame
• Supercharazad, normal townie, lynched Day 1
• Akhier the Dragon hearted, normal townie, lynched Day 3

Player Replacement Queue

The Ottofar
Ottofar


Town IC:
IronyOwl


Mafia IC:
Toaster

Helpful Links and Other Info:
Our own Bay12 Mafia tutorial (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=39338.0)
The Notable Games archive. Read a famous game from start to finish! Lern you sum history. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64229.0)
The Mafiascum wiki. Lots of theory, terminology, and game analysis. (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)
An Interactive Flash tutorial by one of the Mafiascum.net people. Helpful visualization! (http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf)

Spoiler: Dakarian's Scumhunting Bible, reposted here for your convenience (click to show/hide)

A VERY rough sketch of how a scumhunt is done (to help those who aren't sure now).


Step 1: When you have no suspicions on anyone, pick someone at random (I MEAN random.. some use Random.org for this!), take a glance as their past posts, and talk to them, usually with a vote.  The goal is not to kill but to learn more about them.  The vote is a "Pressure Vote", simply used to make sure they don't ignore you.

Step 2: When someone feels 'off' to you: perhaps you disliked their answer, or maybe they scare you, or confuse you with their text.  Perhaps they look fine but your feelings or your gut says something is wrong. Perhaps you see them do one scumtell.  Don't ignore it: make them your target.  Attack them.  Tell them what bothers you about them.  Push them, harass them.  Tell them how scummy they are.  Ask them every question in the book.. and I mean EVERYTHING:

Litia: "You bother me.  Vote Dakarian!"

Dak: Meh.  Why?

Litia: "Because you bother me.  Why are you pushing me off as if it doesn't matter?"

Dak: "What? No, you just have nothing on me."

Litia: "You're voting for Vector.  why?"

Dak: "He looked scummy.."

Litia: "Vagueness is a scumtell!  "Scummy.. how is he scummy!"

Dak: "He just is.. you don't have a reason to go after me either."

Litia: "OMGUSing now Mr.Scum?  Being defensive?  You also didn't answer my question!"


Note, this is Step 2: Litia doesn't feel like she knows Dakarian is scum.. just had a 'feeling'.  She has no hard evidence, nothing real.  The questions are to add pressure.. make Dakarian crack and panic.  If you did it right, they WILL town or scum.  WHEN they do, you will be able to see more of their true self.  From there, decide if you can find them as scum for truth.  If you don't: pull out and go to your next suspect: if no one else is there, go back to Step 1.

If you do believe they are scum after that, Step 3:


Step 3: When you believe someone is scum, gather evidence.  Find every scum tell, every sign of their true motives.  Pull more from them.  DON'T LET GO!  Even if the town ignores you or even votes for you because of it, DO IT ANYWAY!  Push, push, PUSH, ***PUSH*** until you have solid proof of what they are.

If you can't find enough to prove them and run out of things to say, check one more time to see if you still feel he's scum, then pull back, look at others (Step 2) but be ready to go back to them at any time.  If your convinced and ready to kill them, Step 4

Step 4: Final step.  It's time to convince the town.  Show what you have.  Push the target so they show more scumminess.  Attack, but do it only to demonstrate to the town what you KNOW is true.  You aren't trying to argue with the mafia anymore.. you are trying to show the town why you are right and Mr.Mafia MUST be lynched.  If you are at this point, only 3 things can happen:

1.  The scum is lynched.
2. You are given so much information that you become CONVINCED that the target is town. (no less than CONVINCED.. doubt, maybe, 'perhaps' won't due)
3. You are dead.



That's how a basic scumhunt is done.  One last note on doubt:

Doubt is something that's ok to have but UGLY to show.  If you doubt or have second thoughts, DON'T DISPLAY IT.  If you think "He looks passive but I don't know..."  you SAY "You scum!  Stop being passive!!!"  If you think "He may have a good reason to attack guy really." say "Give me your reasons and stop being vague."

Doubt is something for yourself.  When you have doubt, go back and see if your original ideas still hold up.  If they do or if you find yourself saying "I'm not sure" then go back to the attack until you are sure.  This ain't the USA: we play by Guilty until Proven Innocent here.  Unless you can get yourself to believe they may be honest, keep the attack.

So doubt is ok to have if used right.. but the town does NOT need to hear it.  If you doubt, accuse anyway as if you know.  If you wonder, accuse as if you know it.  If you know the answer, ASK ANYWAY and let THEM answer.  Make them convince you they are town: don't do the job for them.


And that's scumhunting in a nutshell.  Everyone, try to figure out what Step you are on and work accordingly.  Note that you should be almost done Step 1 by the end of Day 1 (though some may be higher by then).  If you aren't, keep random voting and consider an Extension.

If you don't know WHAT you are.. you're in Step 1.  Get to random voting.

Last note: 'Not voting' should only be done when you are doing a quick look over everyone's past.  Otherwise, your vote and your attention should always be on SOMEONE, even if it is at random.

It's best for a lynch to be for a reason reason.. but it's better for someone to be lynched randomly than for no lynch to occur at all.

Spoiler: CEAs (Commonly Encountered Abbreviations) and Other Terminology Commonly Found in Bay12 Mafia (click to show/hide)

Alignment - Who you share a victory condition with. Town-aligned, Scum-aligned, or third party alignments.

Bandwagon - Multiple votes on a single person. Can be justified, or unjustified. Unjustified bandwagons are scummy. Joining bandwagons blindly or without reason is also scummy.

BM - Beginner's Mafia (Or, Bastard Mod, a Mafia game with a purposefully unreliable moderator, or misleading information)

Bus - (noun: the bus ; verb: bussing, throwing him/her under the bus) When a mafia member attacks another one in order to make themselves look like a loyal townie when his or her scumpartner gets lynched.

Cult - A group of players that share a win condition, know each other, and can communicate freely. They are generally a second type of scum, although rarely they can be town-aligned. Instead of a kill, they can recruit players into the cult. There is generally a cult leader, who is in charge of recruiting.

FoS - Finger of Suspicion, writing someone's name in blue signifies a great deal of suspicion. It's kind of like a fake-vote, or the threat of a vote. Good for getting attention.

FTD - Failure to Deliver, also known as Toaster's #1 Scumtell. The act of promising to post more information at a later time, and then failing to do so. A very difficult action to justify as town, because it means you are either lazy or lying, it is therefore seen as a pretty solid scumtell.

IC - Inexperienced Challenged, players who are too experienced to justify playing in a Beginner's Mafia, and act as mentors/guides for the Town or the Scum.

Lurking - Purposefully not posting, so that you have few or no posts that can be analyzed. Generally a good strategy for scum. However, has the danger of earning you prods, getting modkilled, or found out via Zathras' Lurkertracker. Lurking is different than simply being away or unavailable. A good way to tell if someone is lurking is to check their profile's last active time, and compare it to their last post.

LYLO - Lynch or Lose, a situation where Town only outnumbers Scum by a single person (e.g. 3 town vs. 2 scum). During LYLO, Town MUST lynch Scum or instantly lose.

Masons - A group of town-aligned players who know each other to be town-aligned. They can communicate with each other freely.

MYLO - Mislynch and Lose, a situation where Town outnumbers Scum by two people (4 town vs. 2 scum). During MYLO, if Town lynches Town, Scum will win after night-killing town, making it 2 town vs. 2 scum, which is an instant scum win.

NL - No Lynch, to choose to end the day without lynching anyone and see if any information is revealed in the night.

OMGUS - Oh My God U Suck, a vote on someone else simply because they voted or attacked you

PFP - Posting From Phone (or Profession), throwing up a short post to prove you aren't lurking, when you are too busy at the time to make a more complete post.

PL - Policy Lynch, lynching someone for reasons other than scumminess. Variants are Lynch All Lurkers, Lynch All Liars, etc. Also see: Org.

PPE - Pre-Post Edit, typically done when you go to either Preview or Post and notice that someone else has posted before you. PPE is shorthand for acknowledging the "Warning - You may wish to review your post" message.

RIA - Refuge in Audacity, acting really crazy or really scummy to make people think that you couldn't possibly be scum because of how crazy you are. This never works. Neither does sarcasm in general, really. If you want to be sarcastic, make it painfully obvious you are being sarcastic, with <sarcasm>fake sarcasm tags</sarcasm>. Even still, it's not a good idea, because Mafia is SERIOUS BUSINESS

Role - Also called Power Role, any special powers you have. Cops, doctors, roleblockers, and godfathers are examples of classic roles. Some roles are alignment-specific, some aren't, and some can be for any alignment.

Rolefishing - Any question or attempt to learn information about someone's role. Typically something done at the beginning of the game. Typically a scum move, because it is in scum's advantage to find and lynch powerful roles. Can be acceptable later in the game, or in special circumstances where it is beneficial for town to learn someone's role. The reason it is scummy is because the really powerful town roles want to stay hidden so they don't get lynched by scum, and bringing attention to them by rolefishing risks their secrecy.

RVS - Random Voting Stage, the early-early game, shortly after the game begins, where people randomly vote each other and ask each other different questions, trying to find any good reason to suspect someone.

Scum - Mafia, or someone who isn't aligned with the Town. The Informed Minority.

SK - Serial Killer, a third party role with a nightkill, and who is hostile to everyone.

Survivor - a third party role whose win condition requires that they be alive at the end of the game. Normal players can die and still win as long as their team as a whole wins, but a survivor must actually be alive at the end.

Third Party - an alignment that is independent of scum and town. Has a unique victory condition, and is typically a lone wolf type character.

Town - The anti-Scum. The uninformed majority.

Vanilla - Someone who doesn't have a power role. "Vanilla Town", "Vanilla Scum", etc.

WIFOM - Wine In Front Of Me, the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that his behavior would be subject to scrutiny.

Quote from: Princess Bride

"All right: where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right and who is dead."

"But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet, or his enemy's?"

Spoiler: A List of Common Scumtells (click to show/hide)

Quote from: IronyOwl

Scumtells are things that someone does or says that imply that they're scum. Usually the reasoning is that it's bad or not productive for townies to do it, so it can be hard to distinguish signs of being scum from signs of being a noob. This is one of the reasons scum almost always win beginner's mafia games.

Note that scumtells are very very subjective; there's no simple way to distinguish a scumtell from a noobtell from being justified and/or lazy. Whether a justified, non-scummy version of a scumtell should still be called by its normal name varies from person to person. (Someone might describe their voting of someone who voted them as "not an OMGUS," other would say it's "a justified OMGUS" for instance)

In any case, common scumtells include:

Bandwagoning: Voting for whoever has the most votes or seems most likely to be lynched, despite having poor/no reasons or not wanting them lynched previously. It implies that you don't care who gets lynched, you just want someone gone, which is generally the case for scum.

OMGUSing: Short for Oh My God You Suck, by the way. Voting or otherwise applying pressure to whoever's voting you. It implies that you're really concerned about being pressured/lynched and want them to stop, which is more a scum thing. A townie would, in theory, be more open to the notion that their fellow townie is attempting to scumhunt at them, and less concerned about being found out.

Defending/Chainsawing: Defending just means what it sounds like: saying things to defend another player's actions or words. Chainsawing or chainsaw defending means attacking someone who's attacking another player in an attempt to get them to stop. The idea in both instances is that townies don't know if their fellow players are innocent or not, and hence have no real reason to defend them from legitimate persecution. Scum, on the other hand, know they're on a team and so are prone to not wanting their buddies found out or pressured.

Lurking: Not posting. Especially suspicious in the case of Active Lurking, which is trying to look active while not actually doing anything (posting frequently but with no substance, for instance). The idea in either case is that townies actually care about finding scum, and so should be doing things. Scum don't care, they just want some random guy lynched so they can kill someone at night.

Appearing Too Townie: There's no official name for this one, but being too concerned about your image; specifically avoiding things that might be seen as scumtells. The idea is that scum are very concerned about being found out, and so want to act nonscummy. Townies know they're not scum, so they're less concerned about LOOKING nonscummy and more concerned about finding scum.

Quote from: Argembarger

Resigning yourself to being lynched.
Saying something like "there's no way for me to avoid being lynched so I won't bother trying"
Blackmailing the town, like "You can lynch me, but you'll be sorry when you see I was town all along!"
Voting yourself for any reason.

If you're still confused, join anyhow and we'll teach you!

And if you have any other questions, just ask!

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Post by: Ottofar on February 04, 2011, 10:01:12 am

My role is Replacer Fake-IC.

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Post by: chewie on February 04, 2011, 11:48:16 am

In (Note: But I very probably won't be online from the 12th to the 20th. Ignore me if the game is going to happen then.)

Question(s) on gameplay: (for future ICs :P)

WIFOM. I think, I know what it is, but I don't get why it's considered to be scummy. "There's no way I'd do this if I was scum" sounds reasonable to me. I know that there is potential for ENDLESS ARGUMENT CHAIN OF DOOM (as in "so you're behaving like that to look town! there you go scum!") in that phrase, but meh, is that all about it? And why do I think I just answered myself there?

I read some of the "notable games" and BMs and it seems to me that the noobtowns (includes me) always get lynched for... well, being noobish and scummy. And if they try to defend themself they only make it worse. Any way to avoid that?

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Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 12:46:33 pm

The use of WIFOM creates confusion, because it's based in hearsay and the potential for lying and misdirection is great.

It is advantageous for scum to confuse and mislead town.

Therefore, WIFOM is considered scummy.

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Step 1: Look at what noobtown did to be considered noobish and scummy.
Step 2: Do the opposite of that.

Well, actually, it's kind of complicated. Noobtown makes noobish, scummy mistakes, and noobtown is also quick to lynch for noobish, scummy mistakes. Look at a more experienced game, noobish mistakes are often correctly identified as noobish rather than scummy, and everyone looks elsewhere for more objective signs of scummitude.

It's not perfect though, because of the potential for them to actually be noobscum rather than noobtown.

The way to resolve/prevent it is really for everyone to question each other in-depth, instead of lazily lynching the first person to look scummy.

In my opinion.

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Thanks for joining!

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Post by: IronyOwl on February 04, 2011, 01:00:06 pm

I'll IC again; either spot. Or both, for that matter. :P

Quote from: chewie on February 04, 2011, 11:48:16 am

I read some of the "notable games" and BMs and it seems to me that the noobtowns (includes me) always get lynched for... well, being noobish and scummy. And if they try to defend themself they only make it worse. Any way to avoid that?

Yeah, BM games have a bad habit of noticing an obvious scumtell, bandwagoning him, and then just sitting there until the day ends. If you're the one being bandwagoned, don't give up- continue scumhunting, including questioning any of your attackers with flimsy or poorly-explained reasons. If you're the one doing the bandwagoning, bear in mind that scum usually don't display obvious, textbook scumtell examples- it's more often longer-term or subtler stuff, like doing no scumhunting but then bandwagoning at every opportunity.

So as Argembarger says, actual scumhunting is the only real cure, for either position. Complacency is a common killer of town.

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Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:07:45 pm

I could help folks, or I could be in.
Better at town, but I might be better as Scum IC lol

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Post by: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:29:29 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:07:45 pm

I could help folks, or I could be in.
Better at town, but I might be better as Scum IC lol

You're not ICing :I

Sorry.

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Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:32:37 pm

okay then. fine with me.
In.

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Post by: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:34:35 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:32:37 pm

okay then. fine with me.
In.

Yeah, the ICs usually need to have completed 5 or "serious" games to be considered--that's the usual noob/non-noob divide, anyway.  After that, most people can usually win the game single-handedly and are truly "inexperience-challenged."

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Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:34:46 pm

Ok.

Irony, you're going Town IC this time, to shake things up.

Quote from: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:34:35 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:32:37 pm

okay then. fine with me.
In.

Yeah, the ICs usually need to have completed 5 or "serious" games to be considered--that's the usual noob/non-noob divide, anyway.  After that, most people can usually win the game single-handedly and are truly "inexperience-challenged."

Hehe, I only have four serious, completed games under my belt.

Damn.

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Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:38:07 pm

Quote from: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:34:35 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:32:37 pm

okay then. fine with me.
In.

Yeah, the ICs usually need to have completed 5 or "serious" games to be considered--that's the usual noob/non-noob divide, anyway.  After that, most people can usually win the game single-handedly and are truly "inexperience-challenged."

ah. I got the title wrong  :P

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Post by: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:40:03 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:34:46 pm

Hehe, I only have four serious, completed games under my belt.

Damn.

Running is very different from ICing >_>

Bah, I miss Dakarian.  And being good at this game.  I don't IC anymore because I consider myself a noob at this point.

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Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:41:14 pm

I thought it was due to being betrothed to mathematics?

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Post by: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 01:41:18 pm

Eh, could use the exercise. In.

Already decided on a setting then?

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Post by: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:42:21 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:41:14 pm

I thought it was due to being betrothed to mathematics?

It's both.  I suck at mafia nowadays and I'm theoretically spending every minute of every day doing math.

I'm not actually doing that much math right now, but I'm getting back into the swing of things and don't want to have to stop playing a bunch of games when everything falls together again.

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Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:42:41 pm

More or less.

I shall reveal nothing until the beginning of Day 1.

Muhaha.

PPE: Well, you can always unofficial-IC

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Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:43:00 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 01:41:18 pm

Already decided on a setting then?

wasn't it supposed to be sci-fi?  ;D

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Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:43:54 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:43:00 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 01:41:18 pm

Already decided on a setting then?

wasn't it supposed to be sci-fi?  ;D

That's such a vast, blanket term though. I can go anywhere with that.

You shall see.

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Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:44:55 pm

OH HELL YEAH!

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Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:45:16 pm

nanobots or something?

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Post by: SaintDraze on February 04, 2011, 01:45:57 pm

I might as well sign up myself, Seeing as I failed so bad At my previous game...
I got speed lynched...
Speaking of lynching Is there a chance of a jester popping up in this game of mafia?
/in
Holy crap this thread is exploding! XP

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 01:46:32 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:45:16 pm

nanobots or something?

We're all computers and we have to use a killcode to destroy all the virus-infected PCs *g*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:47:15 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:45:16 pm

nanobots or something?

I will let the speculation culminate into a big boulder of guessing that rolls down the mountain of ideas, obliterating the villages of doubt in the process.

And then I'll retcon my ideas into something that nobody expects afterward.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 04, 2011, 01:45:57 pm

Speaking of lynching Is there a chance of a jester popping up in this game of mafia?

Nope!

Thanks for joining.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Ottofar on February 04, 2011, 01:48:04 pm

I suddenly remember a BM ran by Org. Or was it Pandar.

Either way, the flavor was about film-making. Aliens infiltrated and hilarity ensued. Particularly when the Mod revealed both scum team members in a single cop result.

Also, no jesters.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:48:45 pm

Quote from: Ottofar on February 04, 2011, 01:48:04 pm

Particularly when the Mod revealed both scum team members in a single cop result.

Lolwat

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Ottofar on February 04, 2011, 01:50:08 pm

He forgot to censor the names.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 01:53:34 pm

Is that what it takes to get a BM Town win around here?

Bluh bluh.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:54:10 pm

*shrugs*
Aren't there 4 or 5/9 already?  ;D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 01:55:14 pm

Quote

The Ottofar
Ottofar

That made me laugh xD

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2011, 01:59:26 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 01:55:14 pm

Quote

The Ottofar
Ottofar

That made me laugh xD

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: Ottofar on February 04, 2011, 02:00:11 pm

I approve.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: Darvi on February 04, 2011, 02:01:02 pm

Someone should make a trope out of it.

The Ottofar
*Trope description*

Heh.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (0/9)
Post by: Mindmaker on February 04, 2011, 02:15:40 pm

Quote from: Vector on February 04, 2011, 01:40:03 pm

Bah, I miss Dakarian.  And being good at this game.  I don't IC anymore because I consider myself a noob at this point.

I considered your advice very helpful, if my opinion counts anything.
If think you're wrestling more with a time/dedication problem.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 04, 2011, 02:20:46 pm

In.

That is, if this starts after all my work disappears. Still, pumped for BM Ecks Ecks.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: Tyberix on February 04, 2011, 02:37:53 pm

In.
I hope i'll be do better this time. :)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: SaintDraze on February 04, 2011, 02:51:30 pm

Oh hey this game is filling up fast...
when are you going to start the game after we get enough people arg?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 02:52:43 pm

As soon as I am able.

We still need a scum IC though.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (2/9)
Post by: Toaster on February 04, 2011, 03:50:11 pm

Quote from: Ottofar on February 04, 2011, 01:48:04 pm

I suddenly remember a BM ran by Org. Or was it Pandar.

Either way, the flavor was about film-making. Aliens infiltrated and hilarity ensued. Particularly when the Mod revealed both scum team members in a single cop result.

Also, no jesters.

Hah- that was BM-X.  Fun fact- the redo of that game was my first game.


I'll scum IC since I seem to be better at scum than town.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: Zrk2 on February 04, 2011, 04:24:01 pm

Oh! ANother BM for me to show my utter INexperience! Sign me up!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (4/9)
Post by: Supercharazad on February 04, 2011, 04:58:51 pm

In

I'd like to sign up!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 06:47:18 pm

You four have been added. Just one more and we can begin!

Also, thanks to Zathras for pointing out a mistake in my terms list. It has been thusly corrected.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 03:54:53 am

IN

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Vector on February 05, 2011, 03:57:31 am

... Remember how I said, oh, yesterday or something that we needed another BM?

Well, here's the evidence <3

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Rose on February 05, 2011, 03:58:42 am

eh, I'll join.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Ottofar on February 05, 2011, 04:16:13 am

Japa, the game is full, but you can replace when necessary.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Rose on February 05, 2011, 04:50:51 am

nevermind, then. the title should be updated, then.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Dos Equis? Whatever, just sign up D: ||||| (8/9)
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 12:15:31 pm

meh I'm sorry I can't be awake to update the title within 4 minutes of someone joining at 4 AM my time >_<

But you can indeed join the replacement queue if you like.

EDIT: I actually fell asleep signed in to Bay12 at, like, 3:45 or something, so I've been asleep since then, but yeah I guess that would look misleading to see me online and nothing happening.

EDIT2: I'm allowed to edit because I'm the mod. None of you are allowed to edit, whatsoever, for any reason at all. Just a friendly reminder before the game starts.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Signups are Closed; please hold.
Post by: Ottofar on February 05, 2011, 12:33:31 pm

And please, read the spoilered parts in the OP.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Signups are Closed; please hold.
Post by: TolyK on February 05, 2011, 02:47:10 pm

Yep, that always helps  :D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Signups are Closed; please hold.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 04:04:55 pm

   This will be fun, I have read a number of other Mafia
games so far and it looks even better then when I
played a werewolf variant in real life. Course it was faster
to physically do it with people but that just meant less
intrigue then what I am seeing here.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 06:20:08 pm

It is the year 2427. For the last 150 years, Earth has been united under a single government. You are one of the nine elected leaders of the Coalition of Human Interests. Peace and prosperity have been the norm by your fair and just rule, which is following a long legacy of benevolent leaders.

Until three years ago, that is.

In 2424, recently-discovered comet C/2417 N2 passed within close proximity to Earth. In the years leading up to the date, conspiracy theorists and the hopelessly paranoid speculated that that comet would strike Earth and bring about anything from widespread social chaos to the end of all life.

They weren't entirely wrong.

The antitail of the comet contained strange life forms capable of surviving both the vacuum of space and the intense heat of atmospheric entry.

These life forms were scattered all over the planet as Earth's orbit took it through the antitail.

Using a strange biochemical process, they rendered themselves visually invisible, hunted down sleeping humans and stealthily inserted themselves without leaving any marks or wounds. After insertion, they worked their way up to the victim's brain, and with bioelectric appendages, manipulated their hosts thoughts and behavior.

Society broke down over a month. The CHI tried to keep order, but many of its members and enforcers were also taken over by the strange creatures. It didn't take long for the decision to be reached: Earth had to be abandoned.

The remnants of the CHI gathered 99,000 verified clean humans together in a remote valley in South America and began construction on an interstellar ship capable of transporting all 99,000 safely to the nearest Earthlike planet.

The ship was done in less than two years, a remarkable feat even by 25th century standards. Everyone got on board and the ship took off - it all seemed too easy.

Yesterday, you and the other 8 leaders met in a meeting room at the top of the ship to discuss the issue of keeping everyone civil and sane for the next several years.

Suddenly, there was the screeching sound of metal being torn above your heads. Air started rushing out of the ship through a breach. A moment later, one of the ship's redundant airlock layers kicked in, sealing the breach. The only problem? Two unidentified life forms managed to get in to the meeting room.

Because they are no longer showing up on the ship's scanners, and you are the only nine people here, you can only assume two of you have been infected.

In order to prevent widespread panic, the nine of you decided on a dangerous course of action - you quarantined yourself from the inside of the room. Nobody is allowed to enter or leave until these life forms have been found and dealt with.

Luckily, there are ways you can discover who is infected, even after the parasites have claimed a host, and it all has to do with behavioral analysis.

You must question each other. The Infected should be recognizable through their behavior. They will try to manipulate and lie to you. You mustn't let that happen. Above all, you must put the will of the many above the will of the few. Order can be kept on the ship with at least one surviving representitive, so as long as that one surviving representative isn't infected, the situation will be saved.

If you wish to seek advice, you can rely on IronyOwl, your chief of security. He will advise you by yelling through the door.

The parasites, after claiming a host, are dependent on the host to stay alive. If the host dies, the parasite dies too. The parasites reproduce asexually, but that takes several weeks, so that will only be a problem if they are allowed to leave this room alive.

Get to work.

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 06:21:44 pm

Alien mind control viruses? Cool.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 06:49:31 pm

Okay, I didn't expect it to start so soon. I've tests almost daily for the coming few weeks, so bear with me please.

Darvi: If you've had any scum experience, how'd that go? What tells did they find in you?
TolyK: Do you think it'll be easier or harder to play in a BM game? Why/why not?
chewie: How many Mafia games have you played? How'd they go and what were you?
Akhier TDH: Same question. What role would you feel the most comfortable in?
Supercharazad: If you were Hive, how would you play? Ploys, tactics etc.
SaintDraze: In your last game you were the first lynch, and a mislynch too. Have you learned anything from this?
Zrk2: What do you know about us? Do you feel comfortable with Irony as the IC?
Tyberix: How do you think this game will go? If you've played any previous games, mention how those went for you.

Yay Saturdays though.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 06:50:31 pm

I don't even know my role yet, so asking questions won't work :P

Also I never was scum before.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 06:56:28 pm

   Why lordnincompoop, you seem awfully chatty right
now. Might you be hiding something like oh say, your
really under alien control? To answer you question
though I have never played "Mafia", I played "Werewolf"
with some people in person. It was fun and all but I
had no real preference. Anyway it was close enough
to Mafia you slimy brain controlling alien.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 06:58:20 pm

forgot to vote you lordnincompoop

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:04:04 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 06:56:28 pm

Why lordnincompoop, you seem awfully chatty right
now. Might you be hiding something like oh say, your
really under alien control? To answer you question
though I have never played "Mafia", I played "Werewolf"
with some people in person. It was fun and all but I
had no real preference. Anyway it was close enough
to Mafia you slimy brain controlling alien.

Chattiness is the point of the game. Without it, you'd just be lynching at random and you might as well just had it over to the scum, Akhier.
I'd like a BM game to come out in the Town's favour, for once.

Also, elaborate on the Werewolf thing.

Quote from: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 06:50:31 pm

I don't even know my role yet, so asking questions won't work :P

Also I never was scum before.

Oi, Argembarger, aren't we all supposed to recieve roles before the game starts?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 07:05:01 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:04:04 pm

Oi, Argembarger, aren't we all supposed to recieve roles before the game starts?

I'm a super special ninja godfather. Not even I know my alignment xD

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:06:26 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 07:05:01 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:04:04 pm

Oi, Argembarger, aren't we all supposed to recieve roles before the game starts?

I'm a super special ninja godfather. Not even I know my alignment xD

lol no

play gaem plz

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 05, 2011, 07:06:41 pm

Well,i think it's too early too predict how it will go(lets at least wait for roles  ;D),but probably not much to think about before D1 end.Well i played only in the previous BM and it ended pretty bad for the town. :-\Well, at least i learned that being too hasty in voting is serious mistake..

Akhier: Any insights on how town should play to avoid being alien-zombies ;p ?
SaintDraze: Do you mind being called scum from the same beginning,you scum ?
Darvi: No breakdowns this time ok :P ?

And yay for alien infestation theme.  :D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 07:06:49 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:06:26 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 07:05:01 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:04:04 pm

Oi, Argembarger, aren't we all supposed to recieve roles before the game starts?

I'm a super special ninja godfather. Not even I know my alignment xD

lol no

play gaem plz

Sry :(

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Toaster on February 05, 2011, 07:13:26 pm

Prepare to be brainsimilated.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 07:15:18 pm

Quote from: Toaster on February 05, 2011, 07:13:26 pm

Prepare to be brainsimilated.

*whelp*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 05, 2011, 07:25:11 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 06:49:31 pm

Okay, I didn't expect it to start so soon. I've tests almost daily for the coming few weeks, so bear with me please.

Darvi: If you've had any scum experience, how'd that go? What tells did they find in you?
TolyK: Do you think it'll be easier or harder to play in a BM game? Why/why not?
chewie: How many Mafia games have you played? How'd they go and what were you?
Akhier TDH: Same question. What role would you feel the most comfortable in?
Supercharazad: If you were Hive, how would you play? Ploys, tactics etc.
SaintDraze: In your last game you were the first lynch, and a mislynch too. Have you learned anything from this?
Zrk2: What do you know about us? Do you feel comfortable with Irony as the IC?
Tyberix: How do you think this game will go? If you've played any previous games, mention how those went for you.

Yay Saturdays though.

I'm not particularly familiar with most of you, but I've played some of you before... I haven't picked up on any metas yet, but since this is BM, I expect you are all just as new as me. Irony is just fine for me.

Supercharazad, how will you approach scumhunting in this game?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 07:47:12 pm

   The game was just like Mafia except that instead of
townsfolk and mafia it was townsfolk and werewolves.
We decided roles using the magic cards:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=2923&type=card)(http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=2968&type=card)

   Because it was in person everyone sat in a circle. A
leader is then chosen, the leader then shuffles the cards
together. There is a card for each person playing, because
we generally had about 8 to 10 people there was around 2-3
werewolves cards in with the rest being folk cards. The
leader passes a card out to each person then the game
starts and everyone is told by the leader to close their
eyes. He then tells the wolves to open theirs to confirm
who is who. Eyes close then the first day begins with
people arguing who to lynch first. Once that is decided
night happens with everyone but the werewolves having
their eyes closed. The werewolves silently figure out
who they want to kill then point at the person and the
next day will begin and everyone finds out who died
and the day and night cycle continues till a side wins.
   When you died you would show everyone the card
you had to confirm what you where. If we had a lot
of people we would add the doctor role in and a role
called the lovers. You all know the doctor already.
The lovers where 2 random people chosen and on the
starting night after the werewolves confirmed who they
where and closed their eyes the lovers would open their
own eyes to see who they where. If one of them died
the other would die as well. They could be 2 folk, 2 wolves,
or a folk and a wolf. We also had mystics who where
to the game what detectives are to Mafia.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:53:01 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 07:06:49 pm

Sry :(

Start asking questions jeez

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 05, 2011, 07:25:11 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 06:49:31 pm

Okay, I didn't expect it to start so soon. I've tests almost daily for the coming few weeks, so bear with me please.

Darvi: If you've had any scum experience, how'd that go? What tells did they find in you?
TolyK: Do you think it'll be easier or harder to play in a BM game? Why/why not?
chewie: How many Mafia games have you played? How'd they go and what were you?
Akhier TDH: Same question. What role would you feel the most comfortable in?
Supercharazad: If you were Hive, how would you play? Ploys, tactics etc.
SaintDraze: In your last game you were the first lynch, and a mislynch too. Have you learned anything from this?
Zrk2: What do you know about us? Do you feel comfortable with Irony as the IC?
Tyberix: How do you think this game will go? If you've played any previous games, mention how those went for you.

Yay Saturdays though.

I'm not particularly familiar with most of you, but I've played some of you before... I haven't picked up on any metas yet, but since this is BM, I expect you are all just as new as me. Irony is just fine for me.

Supercharazad, how will you approach scumhunting in this game?

Arrite, fair enough. Here's another: how active are you planning on being in this game?

Quote from: Tyberix on February 05, 2011, 07:06:41 pm

Well,i think it's too early too predict how it will go(lets at least wait for roles  ;D),but probably not much to think about before D1 end.Well i played only in the previous BM and it ended pretty bad for the town. :-\Well, at least i learned that being too hasty in voting is serious mistake..

Akhier: Any insights on how town should play to avoid being alien-zombies ;p ?
SaintDraze: Do you mind being called scum from the same beginning,you scum ?
Darvi: No breakdowns this time ok :P ?

And yay for alien infestation theme.  :D

I don't know many of you so I'd rather ask questions anyways to know who I'm dealing with here.

We're all beginners, but still.

Another: I assume you were town. How are you going to play differently this time around? Also answer the activity question above.

@akhier: thanks for the info, but spoiler pics for size and why do you have that line width quirk.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 07:59:02 pm

   Sorry about the picture size I will go and "GASP!" Edit
it. The line width is something I have just started to do
because I felt like it. I have seen a few people in various
places including Bay12 do similar things and I found it
easier for me to read. I also like it so will continue to do
it.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 08:03:18 pm

Makes sense.

But no, no edits or WV will dump uranium on us. I'd just like you to be aware of that for next time. :)

Akhier, what things do you think you can apply here from the Werewolf game? Will this goive you a significant advantage?

Darvi, what will your play tactic be hereNnow? If you were scum what'd you do?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 08:04:42 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 08:03:18 pm

Darvi, what will your play tactic be hereNnow? If you were scum what'd you do?

Dunno. Right now I'm just sitting here waiting for a PM.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 08:05:36 pm

   Doh[facepalm], to late for the edit warning. Most of
the Strategy from Werewolf is the same as what we
already have and in fact the strategys here are better
because people have so long to work on them.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 05, 2011, 08:12:35 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:53:01 pm

[...]
Another: I assume you were town. How are you going to play differently this time around? Also answer the activity question above.
[...]

Yep, i was town, clueless if not totally wrong town to be honest :P.
As for now i want to change at least 3 things:
- Ask more questions, and be more aggressive overall
- Get rid of the lurkers (and not be one of course )
- Don't overthink the answers

I'll be going to bed now,i promise to post more tomorrow (and all the time after that ;p).

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 05, 2011, 08:14:55 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:53:01 pm

Arrite, fair enough. Here's another: how active are you planning on being in this game?

I try to make sure to put up quality post every day, and a few smaller ones. I'm tired right now, so I should put together something decent tomorrow, after everyone has posted.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 08:20:57 pm

Aah! Noes!

Well until someone slips or breaks or some discusson or event of not happens there's not much of a case to build on. Just prodding to get there.

Akhier, why are you not answering Tyberix's question? That is suspicious.

Also yeah bed I'll question more later

If I disappear sorry but exams

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 08:21:24 pm

Darn tags.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 08:23:56 pm

   Where is Tyberix's question? Is it on the last page
because for most of that I was finding the picture for
the magic cards.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 08:52:08 pm

Everyone already knows everything they need to know as far as roles go.

But, fine, just to avoid confusion and ambiguity, I will resend everyone their roles.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 08:56:11 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 08:52:08 pm

Everyone already knows everything they need to know as far as roles go.

Liar.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 08:59:19 pm

I thought it would be totally obvious that no PM meant no role.

But, fine.

Everyone gets reshuffled now because of undue amounts of WIFOM caused by confusion and assumptions.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 09:02:19 pm

   What you did wrong was assumed a base level of
competency from new players. It might be obvious
to people who play the game but...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 09:11:19 pm

Yeah I realize that.

It's my bad.

All roles and alignments have been reshuffled.

The possibilities of the roles have been reshuffled as well.

There is nothing to be gained from assuming anything about the previous incarnation of this game.

Anyway, everything's good to go now, so let's start for real and forget about this blunder :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 09:12:51 pm

   Does this mean all previous votes are null and we have
to revote or are they still in affect?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 05, 2011, 09:13:08 pm

What blunder?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 09:15:31 pm

Everything has been reset.

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 1
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   No votes
//  |   
//  |   No extension/shorten requests
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends: Tuesday, February 8 @ 10:00 PM EST
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 09:17:52 pm

   He assumed people would realize that getting nothing
meant that they where townies so you not knowing
threw him for a loop Darvi.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Vector on February 05, 2011, 10:18:35 pm

Ergh.

Arg, we tried that with another game and it caused massive horribleness.  I assume you've also created a new scumchat.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:22:00 pm

   He has already sent the replacement message to
us. Using my special ability of Hindsight20/20 I see
that we probably could have just given Darvi a new
role instead of everyone but oh well.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Vector on February 05, 2011, 10:29:47 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:22:00 pm

   He has already sent the replacement message to
us. Using my special ability of Hindsight20/20 I see
that we probably could have just given Darvi a new
role instead of everyone but oh well.

False.  Darvi would have been confirmed-town no matter what.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:31:57 pm

   If he was given a new role by Argembarger how would
he have been a confirmed townie?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 05, 2011, 10:32:42 pm

Gah, roles all swappeded. Must reset conception of this game... Erk! *Blue screen of death*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Vector on February 05, 2011, 10:33:42 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:31:57 pm

   If he was given a new role by Argembarger how would
he have been a confirmed townie?

Because in a 9p game, there must be 2 scum.

We already know he is not one of the two scum.

Therefore, his replacement role may only be a townie role, unless we alter one of the scum's roles.

But if we alter the role of a scum player, making him or her town, then that player will know his partner, and so we must perform a complete "random" re-shuffling of the entire scumteam.

QED.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:36:13 pm

   Oh, okay that makes sense. You say a 9 person game
must have 2 scum. I figure seeing as this is a beginners
game that probably holds true but is there a reason
or rule for this or just a "well we always do it that way"
kind of thing?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Vector on February 05, 2011, 10:40:36 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:36:13 pm

   Oh, okay that makes sense. You say a 9 person game
must have 2 scum. I figure seeing as this is a beginners
game that probably holds true but is there a reason
or rule for this or just a "well we always do it that way"
kind of thing?

The usual goal in mountainous/vanilla games is 3 days of play if the scum don't screw up.  This is due to endurance concerns on both sides, and also because one-day games aren't very fun.  It gives both sides a "fair" chance.  That the third guess must be correct seems fair, right?  One or two guesses is too little for the town, and four or five guesses without getting it right is unfair for the scum.

Many games are balanced to be a bit longer, but the usual time by which one needs to get-a-lynching well is 3 days.  The second or third day is usually when everything really heats up.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 01:26:32 am

AHHHHH so many posts @^@

I don't mind being called scum as long as you know I'm town.

What I learned after being speed mislynched was that I am a VI poster child.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 01:42:36 am

Quote from: Vector on February 05, 2011, 10:18:35 pm

Ergh.

Arg, we tried that with another game and it caused massive horribleness.  I assume you've also created a new scumchat.

Yes, there's a new scumchat.

There's a new EVERYTHING

It's as if the last setup didn't happen.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 01:52:36 am

MY powers of hindsight told me that all I would have had to do to prevent the situation was put in the rules or in the original post that no PM = vanilla townie.

Then, if someone claimed they got no PM it could always be scum lying.

Because I didn't say that explicitly, there's no way scum could have known in order to lie about that, so there's no way Darvi could have been lying.

Therefore, I had to reshuffle.

Anyway, it's over now, it should be obvious to everyone why it happened (protip: it's because I'm a complete idiot)


And it happened in the early part of the Random Voting Stage anyway, so really, it shouldn't be affecting anyone's perception of this game much.

Y'all have till tuesday at 10 PM, should be plenty of time to get on track and whatnot.

Now let's make this a good game, shall we?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 01:58:04 am

   What I did was not random at all. I voted for the
first person to vote so I could see how they reacted!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 02:01:31 am

Okay so new game officially?

Akhier
Your avatar makes me trust you less

Darvi
I don't trust you, Period...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 02:06:45 am

because You are crafty... like a waffle >.>

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:09:31 am

   Unvote

   I will have you know SaintDraze that I made my
avatar myself! Clearly you are some kind of evil art
critic and I personally made sure all the art critics
we brought with us on the spaceship liked my art
so clearly you must be an alien brain slug you evil
nasty yeerk!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 02:59:57 am

Truth be told I am actually jealous of your avatar because I can't make a good avatar because I don't have a mouse and have to use A touch pad... Its really sucky...
No if I was infected I would be on toasters team then that would be impossible since I have an anti toaster avatar (and sig)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

That was kind of confusing,but let's get started then.

Akhier : What's do you think is the most obvious scumtell you can spot ?
zrk2: Any thoughts on D1 strategy ?
chewie: How do you think we should approach the lurkers issue ?
SaintDraze: If you were attacked,will you start being defensive or carry on with your investigation ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:06:06 am

   I have better then a mouse, I have a tablet!

   To answer Tyberix's question I believe that someone
who lurks for a time then all of the sudden jumps on
who ever has the most votes. Someone going for the
lurker/bandwagon combo in a newb game is a scumtell
because they are new so do not quite know how to
act like they are a townie so figure nothing is better
then something then ends up needing to vote so picks
whoever has the most votes at the time.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 03:27:59 am

SaintDraze: Mafia is srs bsns. Start acting that way. :P

Really though, if you want to scumhunt you have to put some effort in. Ask real questions, etc.

Tyberix: Your scumtells and why, please.
Akhier TDH: Scumtells and why.
Zrk2: Come out, ask questions, etc.
chewie: Why haven't you posted? I say, that's quite suspicious, and a common newscum tactic. Are you newscum?

Akhier your avatar is fine.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:32:21 am

   My scum tells would be acting just like you because
you set such a fine example of course!
  But seriously I have none that would come through
on a forum post that I know of. Most of what I had
from playing Werewolf was voice inflections and such.
   Whats the blueing of names supposed to mean? I have
seen it but not an explanation of what it is.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 03:37:29 am

Quote from: OP

FoS - Finger of Suspicion, writing someone's name in blue signifies a great deal of suspicion. It's kind of like a fake-vote, or the threat of a vote. Good for getting attention.

Also reposted for erryone's benefit:

Spoiler: Dakarian's Scumhunting Bible, reposted here for your convenience (click to show/hide)

A VERY rough sketch of how a scumhunt is done (to help those who aren't sure now).


Step 1: When you have no suspicions on anyone, pick someone at random (I MEAN random.. some use Random.org for this!), take a glance as their past posts, and talk to them, usually with a vote.  The goal is not to kill but to learn more about them.  The vote is a "Pressure Vote", simply used to make sure they don't ignore you.

Step 2: When someone feels 'off' to you: perhaps you disliked their answer, or maybe they scare you, or confuse you with their text.  Perhaps they look fine but your feelings or your gut says something is wrong. Perhaps you see them do one scumtell.  Don't ignore it: make them your target.  Attack them.  Tell them what bothers you about them.  Push them, harass them.  Tell them how scummy they are.  Ask them every question in the book.. and I mean EVERYTHING:

Litia: "You bother me.  Vote Dakarian!"

Dak: Meh.  Why?

Litia: "Because you bother me.  Why are you pushing me off as if it doesn't matter?"

Dak: "What? No, you just have nothing on me."

Litia: "You're voting for Vector.  why?"

Dak: "He looked scummy.."

Litia: "Vagueness is a scumtell!  "Scummy.. how is he scummy!"

Dak: "He just is.. you don't have a reason to go after me either."

Litia: "OMGUSing now Mr.Scum?  Being defensive?  You also didn't answer my question!"


Note, this is Step 2: Litia doesn't feel like she knows Dakarian is scum.. just had a 'feeling'.  She has no hard evidence, nothing real.  The questions are to add pressure.. make Dakarian crack and panic.  If you did it right, they WILL town or scum.  WHEN they do, you will be able to see more of their true self.  From there, decide if you can find them as scum for truth.  If you don't: pull out and go to your next suspect: if no one else is there, go back to Step 1.

If you do believe they are scum after that, Step 3:


Step 3: When you believe someone is scum, gather evidence.  Find every scum tell, every sign of their true motives.  Pull more from them.  DON'T LET GO!  Even if the town ignores you or even votes for you because of it, DO IT ANYWAY!  Push, push, PUSH, ***PUSH*** until you have solid proof of what they are.

If you can't find enough to prove them and run out of things to say, check one more time to see if you still feel he's scum, then pull back, look at others (Step 2) but be ready to go back to them at any time.  If your convinced and ready to kill them, Step 4

Step 4: Final step.  It's time to convince the town.  Show what you have.  Push the target so they show more scumminess.  Attack, but do it only to demonstrate to the town what you KNOW is true.  You aren't trying to argue with the mafia anymore.. you are trying to show the town why you are right and Mr.Mafia MUST be lynched.  If you are at this point, only 3 things can happen:

1.  The scum is lynched.
2. You are given so much information that you become CONVINCED that the target is town. (no less than CONVINCED.. doubt, maybe, 'perhaps' won't due)
3. You are dead.



That's how a basic scumhunt is done.  One last note on doubt:

Doubt is something that's ok to have but UGLY to show.  If you doubt or have second thoughts, DON'T DISPLAY IT.  If you think "He looks passive but I don't know..."  you SAY "You scum!  Stop being passive!!!"  If you think "He may have a good reason to attack guy really." say "Give me your reasons and stop being vague."

Doubt is something for yourself.  When you have doubt, go back and see if your original ideas still hold up.  If they do or if you find yourself saying "I'm not sure" then go back to the attack until you are sure.  This ain't the USA: we play by Guilty until Proven Innocent here.  Unless you can get yourself to believe they may be honest, keep the attack.

So doubt is ok to have if used right.. but the town does NOT need to hear it.  If you doubt, accuse anyway as if you know.  If you wonder, accuse as if you know it.  If you know the answer, ASK ANYWAY and let THEM answer.  Make them convince you they are town: don't do the job for them.


And that's scumhunting in a nutshell.  Everyone, try to figure out what Step you are on and work accordingly.  Note that you should be almost done Step 1 by the end of Day 1 (though some may be higher by then).  If you aren't, keep random voting and consider an Extension.

If you don't know WHAT you are.. you're in Step 1.  Get to random voting.

Last note: 'Not voting' should only be done when you are doing a quick look over everyone's past.  Otherwise, your vote and your attention should always be on SOMEONE, even if it is at random.

It's best for a lynch to be for a reason reason.. but it's better for someone to be lynched randomly than for no lynch to occur at all.

Spoiler: A List of Common Scumtells (click to show/hide)

Quote from: IronyOwl

Scumtells are things that someone does or says that imply that they're scum. Usually the reasoning is that it's bad or not productive for townies to do it, so it can be hard to distinguish signs of being scum from signs of being a noob. This is one of the reasons scum almost always win beginner's mafia games.

Note that scumtells are very very subjective; there's no simple way to distinguish a scumtell from a noobtell from being justified and/or lazy. Whether a justified, non-scummy version of a scumtell should still be called by its normal name varies from person to person. (Someone might describe their voting of someone who voted them as "not an OMGUS," other would say it's "a justified OMGUS" for instance)

In any case, common scumtells include:

Bandwagoning: Voting for whoever has the most votes or seems most likely to be lynched, despite having poor/no reasons or not wanting them lynched previously. It implies that you don't care who gets lynched, you just want someone gone, which is generally the case for scum.

OMGUSing: Short for Oh My God You Suck, by the way. Voting or otherwise applying pressure to whoever's voting you. It implies that you're really concerned about being pressured/lynched and want them to stop, which is more a scum thing. A townie would, in theory, be more open to the notion that their fellow townie is attempting to scumhunt at them, and less concerned about being found out.

Defending/Chainsawing: Defending just means what it sounds like: saying things to defend another player's actions or words. Chainsawing or chainsaw defending means attacking someone who's attacking another player in an attempt to get them to stop. The idea in both instances is that townies don't know if their fellow players are innocent or not, and hence have no real reason to defend them from legitimate persecution. Scum, on the other hand, know they're on a team and so are prone to not wanting their buddies found out or pressured.

Lurking: Not posting. Especially suspicious in the case of Active Lurking, which is trying to look active while not actually doing anything (posting frequently but with no substance, for instance). The idea in either case is that townies actually care about finding scum, and so should be doing things. Scum don't care, they just want some random guy lynched so they can kill someone at night.

Appearing Too Townie: There's no official name for this one, but being too concerned about your image; specifically avoiding things that might be seen as scumtells. The idea is that scum are very concerned about being found out, and so want to act nonscummy. Townies know they're not scum, so they're less concerned about LOOKING nonscummy and more concerned about finding scum.

Akhier TDH: Your eagerness to go after the town is suspicious. What have you to say on this matter?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:43:02 am

   Well to be honest I am not sure what you mean by
"go after the town" in this case, would you mind being
specific about what you want?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:04:15 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

That was kind of confusing,but let's get started then.

SaintDraze: If you were attacked,will you start being defensive or carry on with your investigation ?

Carry on with my investigation since I know I'm town, and the only real way to prove it is scum hunt...
Logical arguments are not my foray

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Vector on February 06, 2011, 04:13:53 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

That was kind of confusing,but let's get started then.

SaintDraze: If you were attacked,will you start being defensive or carry on with your investigation ?

You know, the better way to find this out is to levy an attack, rather than just asking him.

[/gettin' my IC on]

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 04:20:09 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:04:15 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

That was kind of confusing,but let's get started then.

SaintDraze: If you were attacked,will you start being defensive or carry on with your investigation ?

Carry on with my investigation since I know I'm town, and the only real way to prove it is scum hunt...
Logical arguments are not my foray

What, so all you'll be doing is ask random/silly questions, and not respond to any directed at you?

That is an extremely counter-productive way to look at things. Unvote chewie, for now. SaintDraze, play the game properly or suffer the concequences. You are also either scum or pro-scum, looking at the way you play.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 04:27:31 am

well I'm still in thist game  ;) right?
if so I vote lordnincompoop.
what consequences? being lynched is bad for town, but if you're town it's bad for you too.
unless you're sure he's scum, how can you say that?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 04:34:21 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 03:27:59 am

[...]
Tyberix: Your scumtells and why, please.
[...]

If you mean what i find scummy it would be few things: Fishing for cop/doc,active lurking,voting for person who have the most votes already without any explanation,there's more but these are the first that come to mind now.

Few more questions:
Chewie,supercharazad : Well,i hope you post soon..
SaintDrazeWell if you know that scumhunt is top priority why you are not asking any questions?
Tolyk What do you think is the best way of assuring we do not lynch town today ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 04:35:26 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 04:27:31 am

well I'm still in thist game  ;) right?
if so I vote lordnincompoop.
what consequences? being lynched is bad for town, but if you're town it's bad for you too.
unless you're sure he's scum, how can you say that?

If you're not playing the game right, you're just being a distraction/hindrance which will aid the scum. Additionally, if you're town, you're making yourself out to be scum, once again aiding the baddies. I'd rather we play and scumhunt properly so we get that BM Town win.

In the last game, we had a similar situation. Lurkers and bad scumhunting.

Also, voting does not necessarily mean you're completely sure, nor is it unchangeable. A common use of votes is in pressure.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:37:35 am

UNVOTE

Alright Time to get serious!

Darvi

Yep thats right You are indeed my Scum pick darvi...
You are the most likely candidate for being scum.
I can almost imagine you shifting your eyes as you read this...
(if you want to know, yes you do have a beard...)
Defend Yourself!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 04:40:28 am

What

You unvote Darvi, only to revote him again? :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:40:49 am

   Well lordnincompoop, this is a beginners game so most
do not know how to scumhunt correctly.
   SaintDraze, if you where not serious before what made you serious now?
Why are you so sure of him now SaintDraze! Why!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 04:48:52 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 04:34:21 am

Few more questions:
Chewie,supercharazad : Well,i hope you post soon..
SaintDrazeWell if you know that scumhunt is top priority why you are not asking any questions?
Tolyk What do you think is the best way of assuring we do not lynch town today ?

Don't rush, whatever you do. This is a serious game, SaintDraze (;)), so everyone needs to be on their toes. Technically from experience in "live" and forum mafia games it's almost impossible to lynch scum on the first day without luck... it's mostly random, unless scum gives themselves away.
Logical deduction is probably the main course for today, well actually any day, but simple post analysis won't get us very far.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 04:35:26 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 04:27:31 am

well I'm still in thist game  ;) right?
if so I vote lordnincompoop.
what consequences? being lynched is bad for town, but if you're town it's bad for you too.
unless you're sure he's scum, how can you say that?

If you're not playing the game right, you're just being a distraction/hindrance which will aid the scum. Additionally, if you're town, you're making yourself out to be scum, once again aiding the baddies. I'd rather we play and scumhunt properly so we get that BM Town win.

In the last game, we had a similar situation. Lurkers and bad scumhunting.

Also, voting does not necessarily mean you're completely sure, nor is it unchangeable. A common use of votes is in pressure.

Understood. Unvote
Yeah we did have that in the last game XD. I must admit that I was tricked by someone showing I was town and not scum in that game... interesting twist.
The thing is that I usually pressure in blue, akhier for talking in semi-confusing sentences and verse.
Also, only a brain-damaged individual would always talk in poetry :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Vector on February 06, 2011, 04:50:33 am

Blue doesn't make people spazz like red does, and you can still be accused of FoS-hopping (I've caught a few people that way).  Don't be afraid to vote.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 04:51:29 am

Uh,SaintDraze you could at least think up some reason,this way it looks like you don't expect to get any serious information from him,and thats scummy as hell.

lordnincompoop : So you say votes are meaningless ? I don't feel like throwing votes without reason would be less serious than with some explaination ?

Ahkier: I don't think that fact this is BM should change our play,we should be rather aware that we could make mistakes more often/

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:53:07 am

   Am I talking in rhyme? Is it really so much a crime?
The way I talk is not in verse. Please consider this
while we converse!
   Anyway I did not notice any of my rhyming you seem
to think I do. Is it just the way I am putting my lines or
something?

   Tyberix: I was not saying that we should play different,
I was saying that we might not know how to.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:55:10 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 04:20:09 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:04:15 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

That was kind of confusing,but let's get started then.

SaintDraze: If you were attacked,will you start being defensive or carry on with your investigation ?

Carry on with my investigation since I know I'm town, and the only real way to prove it is scum hunt...
Logical arguments are not my foray

What, so all you'll be doing is ask random/silly questions, and not respond to any directed at you?

That is an extremely counter-productive way to look at things. Unvote chewie, for now. SaintDraze, play the game properly or suffer the concequences. You are also either scum or pro-scum, looking at the way you play.

Yes I do have a habit of asking inane questions.
Im just silly.
But now i have it out of my system and Im ready to play for real now...
Well from reading games he has been in before I thought he was kinda pro scum...
And he has that scumy kind of feel to him i guess...
However poop
Your being awfully aggressive for some harmless fun against a total noob such as myself...

Tyb
I don't really have any real scum picks besides darvi so Im going to try pressuring him...
And I don't really want to vote hop with the real voting...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:57:37 am

   Draze, Telling someone you are pressuring them
probably has the opposite affect of pressure. Just
saying if they know you intend to pressure they
see it coming.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 05:05:36 am

Tolyk is acting different from the last game I was in with him... and after I got speed lynch I decided that he was town after all...
so I guess he might be my 3rd scum pick... I think he might be being helpful to seem more protown...
This is a beginners game he is supposed to be helpful...
 :-\

!#@! your right...
I am really bad at this :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:08:02 am

   Don't worry SaintDraze, your still the scum closest
to my heart no matter how much of a noob you turn out
to be!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 05:12:02 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:08:02 am

   Don't worry SaintDraze, your still the scum closest
to my heart no matter how much of a noob you turn out
to be!

what.
please explain your reasoning, Akhier, it's as if you're trying to turn out too newbie to be scum correctly... ???

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:16:10 am

   Mostly I am still joking with him because he start the
reset round by insulting my avatar even though he did
say after a bit he liked it.
   But now that I look back it appears that I still have
him as my vote and I do not really think that so unvote
and I will change my vote to lordnincompoop

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 05:16:56 am

why?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:18:10 am

   He was my backup option.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:40:49 am

lordnincompoop

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 05:18:43 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:40:49 am

   Well lordnincompoop, this is a beginners game so most
do not know how to scumhunt correctly.

Which is why this is a perfect opportunity for us to learn how to do so. We're here to learn, ya know?

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 04:51:29 am

lordnincompoop : So you say votes are meaningless ? I don't feel like throwing votes without reason would be less serious than with some explaination ?

Of course you'd need a reason for your vote and questions and stuff, but pressure votes are used often along with FoSes. Read some threads, see the votes. Not to mention this is the RVS, which is all about flailing about/voting.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:53:07 am

   Am I talking in rhyme? Is it really so much a crime?
The way I talk is not in verse. Please consider this
while we converse!
   Anyway I did not notice any of my rhyming you seem
to think I do. Is it just the way I am putting my lines or
something?

   Tyberix: I was not saying that we should play different,
I was saying that we might not know how to.

Yeah your line format is conducive to that sort of thing.

TolyK: Who do you think will be the scumpair?
SaintDraze: What is your opinion on bandwagons? How will you handle them?

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:55:10 am

But now i have it out of my system and Im ready to play for real now...
Well from reading games he has been in before I thought he was kinda pro scum...
And he has that scumy kind of feel to him i guess...
However poop
Your being awfully aggressive for some harmless fun against a total noob such as myself...

"Poop"? D:

Silliness is nice, but not when it's being subsituted for productivity.
And as for my aggression: That's a lot of what this game is about. You try to get people to crack. I'm just scumhunting (properly, for once), and you should too.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:16:10 am

   But now that I look back it appears that I still have
him as my vote and I do not really think that so unvote
and I will change my vote to lordnincompoop

Elaborate. If you want me to make my case you'll have to prompt me, sorry.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 05:22:29 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:08:02 am

   Don't worry SaintDraze, your still the scum closest
to my heart no matter how much of a noob you turn out
to be!

Complement taken?
 ???


Darvi-Rest assured you are my top scum pick so far...
Prove to me that you are town by
Telling me if you like bacon or waffles
telling me your top scum picks...

Then I will go to my backupscum vote... poop(sorry Lordpoop)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 05:26:38 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 05:18:43 am

TolyK: Who do you think will be the scumpair?
SaintDraze: What is your opinion on bandwagons? How will you handle them?

[logic]
It can be:
a) Players with no interactions - they agree to not talk about/with each other to keep away suspicion.
b) Players who support each other/follow - the most scummy option, they try to prove points by saying "I agree and you should too", i.e. bandwagon-ing.
c) Players who go against each other - unlikely for a BM, they end up "proving" the other is town.
[/logic]
*OR*
[just kidding]
YOU ALL ARE THE SCUM! I AM THE ONLY UNAFFECTED ONE!
[/just kidding]

**
Oh, and draze: please use full names. really.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:28:46 am

   Over all you seem to be the one for me! Perhaps fate
or blind eternity, explain why not or you will rot, underneath
a wooden beam, so tall and mean.
   Why be so defensive? We are nowhere in the game quite
yet. The first death is to come and then if you live the
night will be fun. Either I die or you but do not be blue! I
will always be in doubt of you.
   In other note I am apparently not awake right now. I am
going to be asleep and not responding soon. After all I only
need to wake up in around 3 and a half hours! I may or may
not have time to check in and if not I will not be available till
some time after 6:00pm tomorrow. For reference Its 5:30ish
AM for me right now. I may respond to stuff in the next 5ish
minutes if not I am asleep.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 05:35:17 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:28:46 am

   Over all you seem to be the one for me! Perhaps fate
or blind eternity, explain why not or you will rot, underneath
a wooden beam, so tall and mean.
   Why be so defensive? We are nowhere in the game quite
yet. The first death is to come and then if you live the
night will be fun. Either I die or you but do not be blue! I
will always be in doubt of you.

who was that to

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:36:05 am

   Lordnincompoop, and now I really must get to sleep.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 05:41:28 am

Ahkier: If we manage to lynch scum D1,if hard to achieve, will greatly hinder their means to mess with votes/false accusations etc so why assume we do not have chance to find them ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 05:50:11 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 05:22:29 am

poop(sorry Lordpoop)

D: D:

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 05:52:14 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:28:46 am

   Why be so defensive? We are nowhere in the game quite
yet. The first death is to come and then if you live the
night will be fun. Either I die or you but do not be blue! I
will always be in doubt of you.

Not defensive. Just prodding.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 05:59:06 am

Lordnincompoop I find your prodding to be defensive, scumtell much?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 06:05:18 am

Excuse me?

Investigation is key. If we don't talk to each other and do stuff, the scum will win because we don't know who the town and scum are.

Thus the questions.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 06:08:06 am

And if you wanted a list of what I find are scumtells:

• Lurking.
• Chainsaw Defense
• OMGUSes
• Use of WIFOM
• Lack of investigation
• Bandwagonning: Usually 4-5th person

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 08:58:08 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 06:05:18 am

Excuse me?

Investigation is key. If we don't talk to each other and do stuff, the scum will win because we don't know who the town and scum are.

Thus the questions.

Lordnincompoop

You don't want me to investigate you? That sounds very, very scummy to me.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 09:48:13 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 08:58:08 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 06:05:18 am

Excuse me?

Investigation is key. If we don't talk to each other and do stuff, the scum will win because we don't know who the town and scum are.

Thus the questions.

Lordnincompoop

You don't want me to investigate you? That sounds very, very scummy to me.

No, I do. Go ahead.

What I was saying was that we should prod each other more.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 09:50:53 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 09:48:13 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 08:58:08 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 06:05:18 am

Excuse me?

Investigation is key. If we don't talk to each other and do stuff, the scum will win because we don't know who the town and scum are.

Thus the questions.

Lordnincompoop

You don't want me to investigate you? That sounds very, very scummy to me.

No, I do. Go ahead.

What I was saying was that we should prod each other more.

agreed.
LURKERS COME OUT!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 09:55:41 am

There's still a person that hasn't posted yet: chewie.

Argembarger, a poke maybe?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:16:37 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:37:35 am

(if you want to know, yes you do have a beard...)

a 'stache does not a beard make.
  Also, I'm impressed at how much you guys can post when I'm offline.
 
  Zrk2: Quit lurking!
  Akhier: Your formatting irritates me. òÓ
  Supercharazad: Your not the first to FoS lordnincompoop. Bandwagon much?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:22:53 am

Argembarger, current voting?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 10:49:01 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:16:37 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:37:35 am

(if you want to know, yes you do have a beard...)

a 'stache does not a beard make.
  Also, I'm impressed at how much you guys can post when I'm offline.
 
  Zrk2: Quit lurking!
  Akhier: Your formatting irritates me. òÓ
  Supercharazad: Your not the first to FoS lordnincompoop. Bandwagon much?

Darvi

I'm not bandwagoning, I'd only read the 10th page when I FoSd him.

However, you are FoSing me, after I FoSd someone else, meaning defense!

SCUMTELL!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:57:21 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 10:49:01 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:16:37 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:37:35 am

(if you want to know, yes you do have a beard...)

a 'stache does not a beard make.
  Also, I'm impressed at how much you guys can post when I'm offline.
 
  Zrk2: Quit lurking!
  Akhier: Your formatting irritates me. òÓ
  Supercharazad: Your not the first to FoS lordnincompoop. Bandwagon much?

Darvi

I'm not bandwagoning, I'd only read the 10th page when I FoSd him.

However, you are FoSing me, after I FoSd someone else, meaning defense!

SCUMTELL!

What you're doing right now is OMGUSing me. Quite the scumtell, pal.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

 ::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 10:59:39 am

Darvi Do you mind if i ask what do you think about current situation and what scumtells will you look for ?

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 10:49:01 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:16:37 am

...

Darvi

I'm not bandwagoning, I'd only read the 10th page when I FoSd him.

However, you are FoSing me, after I FoSd someone else, meaning defense!

SCUMTELL!

Isn't it a little paranoid calling every question towards you scummy defense,supercharazad?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 11:00:10 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 10:49:01 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:16:37 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:37:35 am

(if you want to know, yes you do have a beard...)

a 'stache does not a beard make.
  Also, I'm impressed at how much you guys can post when I'm offline.
 
  Zrk2: Quit lurking!
  Akhier: Your formatting irritates me. òÓ
  Supercharazad: Your not the first to FoS lordnincompoop. Bandwagon much?

Darvi

I'm not bandwagoning, I'd only read the 10th page when I FoSd him.

However, you are FoSing me, after I FoSd someone else, meaning defense!

SCUMTELL!

I assume you've read the rest of it now?

OMGUS, Supercharazard. I shall be watching you and your antics.

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

Something productive is happening. If you think it's not happening, make it happen.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 11:01:37 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

WHAT ??? Passiveness and silence help scum more than even wrong accusations! tolyk!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 11:02:56 am

Bluh, internet is being bitchy. My first post here today took me an hour to send.
Just saying that there's a possibility that I won't be posting some time later, and apologize in advance.

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

The heck, Tolyk?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:11:10 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 11:00:10 am

Something productive is happening. If you think it's not happening, make it happen.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 11:01:37 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

WHAT ??? Passiveness and silence help scum more than even wrong accusations! tolyk!

now it is.
***
Tyberix: it is scummy with supercharzard protecting himself through attacking attackers.
Same with lordnincompoop.


What I meant with that is folks lurking. nothing on them, and what currently is happening I've already worked out in my mind. in case you're wondering, I have a chart on paper of possible scumpals and keep updating. the current discussion isn't changing anything.
***
My scumpicks, in order of going up:
supercharazard for being overly defensive
saintdraze for being odd
darvi for being darvi demi-lurking and self-defending a bit too much
lordnincompoop (fighting with charazard) because one of them is likely scum
tyberix hasn't got anything on him
*
NINJA'd by darvi. look above.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:12:00 am

with "saintdraze being odd" I meant posting things that distanced him from everyone.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 12:00:58 pm

   Well I guess I will have to bless you all with my presences.
I was supposed to be doing something else right now but
you all convinced me to stick around. Either that or I may
have managed to eat some slightly old ham at a breakfast
buffet. I regret nothing!
   Also is there anyone who has yet to have their name in
blue? It has little affect on someone if everyone has it,
you all know that right?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 12:04:52 pm

   Well I just went back over the posts since the reset
began and EVERYONE has had their name in either red
or blue.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 12:09:42 pm

Well, this is the RVS.

Keep in mind also that it depends on the person, and that votes are (IMO) better off on a person than not.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 12:10:09 pm

That said, Argembarger, vote count.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:14:51 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:57:21 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 10:49:01 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 10:16:37 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:37:35 am

(if you want to know, yes you do have a beard...)

a 'stache does not a beard make.
  Also, I'm impressed at how much you guys can post when I'm offline.
 
  Zrk2: Quit lurking!
  Akhier: Your formatting irritates me. òÓ
  Supercharazad: Your not the first to FoS lordnincompoop. Bandwagon much?

Darvi

I'm not bandwagoning, I'd only read the 10th page when I FoSd him.

However, you are FoSing me, after I FoSd someone else, meaning defense!

SCUMTELL!

What you're doing right now is OMGUSing me. Quite the scumtell, pal.

I see you are now OMGUSing me by saying I did the same to you? You are a very scummy person. I don't like you. In fact...

darvi

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 12:19:48 pm

Unofficial vote count
    * chewie - 0
    * TolyK - 1 - Tyberix
    * Darvi - 2 - SaintDraze, Supercharazad
    * SaintDraze - 1 - lordnincompoop
    * lordnincompoop - 1 - Akhier the Dragon hearted
    * Tyberix - 0
    * Zrk2 - 1 - Darvi
    * Supercharazad - TolyK
    * Akhier the Dragon hearted - 0

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 12:25:58 pm

Official Vote Count

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 1
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   Darvi (2) - SaintDraze, Supercharazad
//  |   lordnincompoop (1) - Akhier the Dragon hearted
//  |   SaintDraze (1) - lordnincompoop
//  |   supercharazad (1) - TolyK
//  |   TolyK (1) - Tyberix
//  |   Zrk2 (1) - Darvi
//  |   
//  |   Not Voting (2) - chewie, Zrk2
//  |
//  |   No extension/shorten requests
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends: Tuesday, February 8 @ 10:00 PM EST
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

I'm going to prepare a lurkertracker now, but chewie most likely needs a prod by now. We'll see.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 12:26:27 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:14:51 pm

I see you are now OMGUSing me by saying I did the same to you? You are a very scummy person. I don't like you. In fact...

darvi

Okay, you know what that's it Supercharazard. Stop WIFOMing and start playing. No, this is not an OMGUS.

Not every move directed against you is a scumtell, and not everything is an OMGUS. We target other people too, ya know.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:42:33 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 12:26:27 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:14:51 pm

I see you are now OMGUSing me by saying I did the same to you? You are a very scummy person. I don't like you. In fact...

darvi

Okay, you know what that's it Supercharazard. Stop WIFOMing and start playing. No, this is not an OMGUS.

Not every move directed against you is a scumtell, and not everything is an OMGUS. We target other people too, ya know.

Defending darvi? I suspect scum!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 12:52:00 pm

---

LurkerTracker go;
omniscient hunter of lurk,
show us who's not here

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Replacements considered: Ottofar => The Ottofar; IronyOwl => IronyOwl: IC, Town; Vector => Vector: IC, Unofficial; Toaster => Toaster: IC, Scum.

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A couple of notes.

First, this is not totally up to date because a couple of people slipped some votes after I saved the pages for processing. But it's close enough for now.

Secondly, chewie does not need a prod. He is not showing up on the lurkertracker because he has not made a post since the beginning of the game.

However, not only has the game only been going on for 18 hours, but it's also the weekend and mods are traditionally more lenient about attendance on the weekend. Sorry guys, but chewie is totally OK at the moment.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 01:06:03 pm

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 01:09:15 pm

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darvi for being darvi demi-lurking and self-defending a bit too much

What do you mean demi-lurking? Excuse me for going to bed at 3 AM >_>

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reset? Golly gosh, I think I did!

...wot?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 01:12:31 pm

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:\

I don't understand. Are you trying to tell me my vote count is wrong? If so, be explicit about it, I won't be offended.

Secondly, that list is hella confusing. I have my own non-confusing methods for keeping track of votes. (hint: it's a spreadsheet)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 01:13:53 pm

Yeah,i tend to forget we still have lot of time before day end ;p

Supercharazad: Just to make something clear: how the hell pointing out omgus vote is scummy ?? If we not take in account someone's scummy behavior in voting we could as well roll dice an see who get lynched... So what's correct way of finding scum in your opinion if not looking for scumtells like that ?

Akhier: Not sure what that supposed to mean.. Do you find any patterns in this?, or this is pure distraction from your not-a-scumhunt ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 01:14:58 pm

   Just what it says. Its the complete history of us
voting since the reset including FoS. All quoting back
to the original post though I did go through and made
it all proper names and such.
   Argembarger, no I had started this before hand.
Its just a big list of how we have voted in a nice
time arranged fashion to show paterns in voting.
   I did not find any outstanding patterns but it took
time to make so I thought, why not post it.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 06, 2011, 01:19:30 pm

Sorry for being lurky, but
1. I live in europe, so the game started probably in the middle of the night for me and
2. I had some serious rl stuff going on (REALLY serious, my uncle committed suicide yesterday)

But now I'm back and I'm gonna have a read through the whole thing now. (And then of course, start answering questions and play the game)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 01:20:20 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 01:19:30 pm

Sorry for being lurky, but
1. I live in europe, so the game started probably in the middle of the night for me and
2. I had some serious rl stuff going on (REALLY serious, my uncle committed suicide yesterday)

But now I'm back and I'm gonna have a read through the whole thing now. (And then of course, start answering questions and play the game)

1. So do I, eastern europe even.
2. what. I'm... sorry about that.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 01:28:17 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 01:19:30 pm

Sorry for being lurky, but
1. I live in europe, so the game started probably in the middle of the night for me and
2. I had some serious rl stuff going on (REALLY serious, my uncle committed suicide yesterday)

But now I'm back and I'm gonna have a read through the whole thing now. (And then of course, start answering questions and play the game)

Holy shit, dude... if you want some time off to deal with that, you can have as much as you want...

Secondly, no need to worry; like I said, the game has been going on for less than 24 hours (if you can believe it) and I don't prod until 36.


I'm sorry to hear about your uncle... just, damn. I'm sorry.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:08:19 pm

   Well I looked through my data and did not find any
real patterns to follow. It is a little early in the game
for that anyway but starting now means its easier to
keep up with. The one thing I did find was that
lordnincompoop and TolyK both forgot to unvote before
they last voted. Nothing big or anything but I have
the quotes spoilered with both the vote before and
the current vote where they forgot their unvotes.

Spoiler: lordnincompoop (click to show/hide)

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 04:20:09 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:04:15 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

That was kind of confusing,but let's get started then.

SaintDraze: If you were attacked,will you start being defensive or carry on with your investigation ?

Carry on with my investigation since I know I'm town, and the only real way to prove it is scum hunt...
Logical arguments are not my foray

What, so all you'll be doing is ask random/silly questions, and not respond to any directed at you?

That is an extremely counter-productive way to look at things. Unvote chewie, for now. SaintDraze, play the game properly or suffer the concequences. You are also either scum or pro-scum, looking at the way you play.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 12:26:27 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:14:51 pm

I see you are now OMGUSing me by saying I did the same to you? You are a very scummy person. I don't like you. In fact...

darvi

Okay, you know what that's it Supercharazard. Stop WIFOMing and start playing. No, this is not an OMGUS.

Not every move directed against you is a scumtell, and not everything is an OMGUS. We target other people too, ya know.

Spoiler: TolyK (click to show/hide)

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 05:12:02 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:08:02 am

   Don't worry SaintDraze, your still the scum closest
to my heart no matter how much of a noob you turn out
to be!

what.
please explain your reasoning, Akhier, it's as if you're trying to turn out too newbie to be scum correctly...

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:11:10 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 11:00:10 am

Something productive is happening. If you think it's not happening, make it happen.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 11:01:37 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

waiting until something productive starts happening...

WHAT Passiveness and silence help scum more than even wrong accusations! tolyk!

now it is.
***
Tyberix: it is scummy with supercharzard protecting himself through attacking attackers.
Same with lordnincompoop.


What I meant with that is folks lurking. nothing on them, and what currently is happening I've already worked out in my mind. in case you're wondering, I have a chart on paper of possible scumpals and keep updating. the current discussion isn't changing anything.
***
My scumpicks, in order of going up:
supercharazard for being overly defensive
saintdraze for being odd
darvi for being darvi demi-lurking and self-defending a bit too much
lordnincompoop (fighting with charazard) because one of them is likely scum
tyberix hasn't got anything on him
*
NINJA'd by darvi. look above.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 02:11:01 pm

whoops.
thanks for the info.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:13:14 pm

   Your welcome, glad to be of help.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 06, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

You know what, I just had a quick read of every post and I realised that I'll have to do a real one, where I take notes and everything. This is going way to fast for me. I'll answer questions in this post, then do the mentioned reread-with-notes-taking and THEN I'll inform you about my opinion on the general situation.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 06:49:31 pm

chewie: How many Mafia games have you played? How'd they go and what were you?

Well, this is my first one. but I've been reading some BMs and some "notable games". But I'll probably screw up anyway :P

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 07:59:02 pm

The line width is something I have just started to do
because I felt like it. [...] I found it easier for me to read.

What. Sorry but IMHO it's awful. I feel like reading poetry. (The fact, that you're doing the rhymes thing, doesn't help)

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 03:00:44 am

chewie: How do you think we should approach the lurkers issue ?

Haha, irony.

You know, from now on we still have... (tuesday, 10pm isn't it) two days, I guess?  We can ignore them right now, but when they haven't posted something at monday evening we should probably lynch (except we know something better, of course) them because they haven't really contributed anything or could simply be lurky scum.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 03:27:59 am

chewie: Why haven't you posted? I say, that's quite suspicious, and a common newscum tactic. Are you newscum?

Nah, I'm noobtown. About my lurking: see my last post. About newscum lurking: I agree with that and mention Zrk2, who has 3 posts by now (thanks, mighty lurkertracker!). But I'm not better, so yeah.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 04:34:21 am

Chewie,supercharazad : Well,i hope you post soon..

Well, here I am.

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 01:20:20 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 01:19:30 pm

1. I live in europe, so the game started probably in the middle of the night for me and

1. So do I, eastern europe even.

Cool. Where are you from? (I'm swiss)

Spoiler: about the reallife "stuff" (click to show/hide)

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 01:20:20 pm

2. what. I'm... sorry about that.

Quote from: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 01:28:17 pm

I'm sorry to hear about your uncle... just, damn. I'm sorry.

Thanks guys. We didn't really expect him to do that...

Quote from: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 01:28:17 pm

Holy shit, dude... if you want some time off to deal with that, you can have as much as you want...

Don't worry, I'll be able to play (sounds way more dramatical than it is). But the funeral is on friday and on saturday we go to holidays for a week (won't be so funny, but meh) so I'll need a replacement from friday. (Told ya about the holiday in my pre-game post, in case you didn't see it)

Jegus Christ, that took me a good hour and I still have to do a real reread of the thread...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:27:39 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 05, 2011, 07:59:02 pm

The line width is something I have just started to do
because I felt like it. [...] I found it easier for me to read.

What. Sorry but IMHO it's awful. I feel like reading poetry. (The fact, that you're doing the rhymes thing, doesn't help)

   Sorry you feel that way. Oh and sorry about the
rhyming thing. After about 2 or 3 am I tend to latch
on to something and rhymes just caught me. I am worse
in person because I tend to pick up accents and stuff
by accident.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 02:28:33 pm

(Belarus. not that great of a place, but it works.)
Given that this is your first game, how do you feel?
Also, please tell us your scumpicks, top to bottom. When you're done, of course. Take your time.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:27:39 pm

I am worse
in person because I tend to pick up accents and stuff
by accident.

(Russian "r" can you do it?))

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 02:30:29 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 02:28:33 pm

(Russian "r" can you do it?))

My youngest brother is russian :D It's not that hard really.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:31:42 pm

   I do not know, never actually heard a Russian accent
that I remember. Probably though, its more of a I hear
it and then just slip into it kind of thing.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 02:37:20 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 02:30:29 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 02:28:33 pm

((Russian "r" can you do it?))

My youngest brother is russian :D It's not that hard really.

rly?
[/derail]

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 02:38:21 pm

Ya Rly.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:41:00 pm

   Have any of you ever noticed that when you add
"technically" when you state a fact it sounds like your
lying. Technically I am not crazy!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Ottofar on February 06, 2011, 02:46:38 pm

Sorry for your uncle Chewie.

Also, Argem, you could PM Japa about the spot, when Chewie's leaving.

And in general, this is one of the most active beginner games I've seen. Keep up the good work.

Oh, and Akhier, it might help in your poetism, that instead of pressing 'enter' every time you reach the end of the text box, you press ' ' and continue typing normally. Just saying.

Ottofar out.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:49:56 pm

   I do not get to the end of the text box. If I where to do that it would end up like it is now. As I said I just like the
way better. I go until about where the "insert code"
button is or there abouts.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 03:29:48 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:49:56 pm

   I do not get to the end of the text box. If I where to do that it would end up like it is now. As I said I just like the
way better. I go until about where the "insert code"
button is or there abouts.

Whoopsie *g*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 03:41:56 pm

So, darvi, do you enjoy scumchat? I bet you find it fun, you scummy scummer! I bet you're plotting to nightkill me, with your scummy friend!

BTW, If I don't die today, darvi isn't lynched and I die at night, darvi is probably scum. Just saying.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 03:46:07 pm

Ah, but by saying that, it's guaranteed to happen, as the mafia will do exactly that, just to frame me. That is, if you don't die today, Supercharazad. Your focus on me seems scummy.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 pm

   Supercharazad, You forgot to unvote before you
voted again. Not that import right now but it helps.
   You to Darvi.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 03:49:04 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 pm

You to Darvi.

Bluh. Whatever. Unvote Zrk2, vote Supercharazad, then.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

Actual situation from my point of view: Supercharazad has most votes (3, but one has been done like 18 hours ago, so it doesn't really count) because he did a poor defense that perfectly justified the votes. But I guess his defending is so poor because he is as noobish as me, and not because his scum. And we still have plenty of time.

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 02:28:33 pm

(Belarus. not that great of a place, but it works.)
Given that this is your first game, how do you feel?
Also, please tell us your scumpicks, top to bottom. When you're done, of course. Take your time.

Scumpicks, starting with the scummiest: (Don't take these too seriously though, we're still in the RVS (or aren't we?))
1. Akhier the Dragon hearted. For the huge amount of posts he has made, there haven't been many useful ones, although this has changed in the last few. But is still not trying to scumhunt. Could simply be trying to look active. (AND I still don't like the formatting. Makes his post look longer than they actually are.
2. Zrk2. Because he's lurking. He said in one post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951702#msg1951702) that he will be posting "tomorrow" but this has been 17 hours ago so I guess "tomorrow" has arrived on the whole globe now. Note: "Lurking" in comparisation to the rest of the thread.
3. Saintdraze. To me it seems that he's not contributing very much and that he's not argumenting logically. But it's more of his newbieness I think, as he didn't do better in an other game I read and was lynched as a townie on day 1.


-------------------------------------------

Akhier: How do you think we should handle the noobtown-or-scum issue? Should we lynch every scummy-looking guy or should we say "well is a noob after all, let's go find someone else"? I'm aware that I did this several times (and probably once too much) in this post.

Tiberyx: You seem experienced to me. Could you tell your  scumpicks, please?

Supercharazad, Akhier, Saintdraze: How many games have you been in? What roles have you had? (Sorry if you already told. I couldn't see it anywhere)

(Mod: Could we please get a lurkertracker that only counts the posts after the reset? Thx in advance.)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:06:09 pm

   I have been posting a lot because I have nothing
else to do. Most of my time is free and its less of
me being or trying to look active and more of a there
is nothing else for me to do. The format for my posts
stay. It is a new thing for me but not a new thing as
of playing Mafia. I started doing it January 30.
   I have never played a game of mafia before but have
played a similar type of game with some friends in
person. I have played an analogy of the basic roles
of mafia and townie.

   Here is vote records in a different format.

Spoiler: Time zone is EST, V = voted, UnV = unvoted, and FoS = finger of suspicion (click to show/hide)

Akhier the Dragon hearted
February 05, 2011
V_09:17:52pm
February 06, 2011
UnV-V_02:09:31am FoS_04:40:49am UnV-V_05:16:10am

SaintDraze
February 06, 2011
FoS-V_02:01:31am UnV-V_04:37:35am FoS_04:55:10am FoS_05:22:29am

lordnincompoop
February 06, 2011
FoS-FoS-V_03:27:59am UnV-V_04:20:09am FoS_11:00:10am V_12:26:27pm

TolyK
February 06, 2011
V_04:27:31am UnV_FoS_04:48:52am V_05:12:02am V_11:11:10am

Tyberix
February 06, 2011
FoS-FoS_04:51:29am FoS_10:59:39am V_11:01:37am

Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
FoS_05:59:06am FoS_08:58:08am FoS_10:49:01am V_12:14:51pm V_03:41:56pm

Darvi
February 06, 2011
V-FoS-FoS_10:16:37am FoS_11:02:56am V_03:46:07pm UnV-V_03:49:04pm

chewie
February 06, 2011
V_3:50:18pm

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:13:39 pm

This is the first game I've ever played. I read and memorised a whole pile of game-modes and roles though.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:14:48 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 pm

   Supercharazad, You forgot to unvote before you
voted again. Not that import right now but it helps.
   You to Darvi.

Actually, I voted darvi before, so it's like confirming that I'm voting darvi, because I can't think of anyone else and I REALLY don't like him.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:15:42 pm

Many people don't like me . Deal with it :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:19:54 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 03:49:04 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 pm

You to Darvi.

Bluh. Whatever. Unvote Zrk2, vote Supercharazad, then.

OMGSUing?

Voting me just because I voted you? SCUMMY!

EDIT: GTG for about 19 hours after this, gotta sleep then school.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:24:29 pm

My FoS has been on you for a while. 'cept now I decided that I could do with one nemesis less around.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:25:44 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:24:29 pm

My FoS has been on you for a while. 'cept now I decided that I could do with one nemesis less around.

You first FoSd me after I FoSd you, you scummy OMGUSer.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Ottofar on February 06, 2011, 04:29:20 pm

*ahem*
Never edit in mafia.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:31:04 pm

Bluhbluhbluh. Fine. Have it your way. You've OMGUSed me first anyway.

Chewie, what do you think of this, uh, "conversation" we're having here?

Quote from: Ottofar on February 06, 2011, 04:29:20 pm

*ahem*
Never edit in mafia.

Who did what now?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 04:38:41 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:19:54 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 03:49:04 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 pm

You to Darvi.

Bluh. Whatever. Unvote Zrk2, vote Supercharazad, then.

OMGSUing?

Voting me just because I voted you? SCUMMY!

EDIT: GTG for about 19 hours after this, gotta sleep then school.

this.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:47:46 pm

Oh, right, sorry, I forgot :P

Also, Darvi, You are scum, and you know it, don't you?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 06, 2011, 04:50:32 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:06:09 pm

   I have been posting a lot because I have nothing
else to do. Most of my time is free and its less of
me being or trying to look active and more of a there
is nothing else for me to do.

Ok I see that, but most of your posts aren't really useful (you could call them spam, huh) and I'm pretty sure that there would be stuff to do, like asking people questions and stuff. Talking about questions, you left one of mine out. Please answer it.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 04:06:09 pm

The format for my posts stay.

So does my vote.

(I like that list, but I suggest you write the votes out ($name instead of V or $name instead of FoS) and colour the whole thing up a bit (votes=red, Unv=green, FoS=blue). Looking forward to it.)

Fakeedit:

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:31:04 pm

Chewie, what do you think of this, uh, "conversation" we're having here?

Well, Supercharazad has once again proven that he's

• not very good at defending,
• throwing around Fingers of Suspicion like hell
• and that he obviously hasn't read the OP because he just edited his post right there.

Supercharazad, you're not being very helpful here, so you wouldn't be a great loss if you'd be lynched if you're town. Please explain to me how you're useful in this game.

I'm gonna sleep too now and will probably be back in 10-12 hours.

Another freaking Fakeedit, sorry guys:

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:47:46 pm

Also, Darvi, You are scum, and you know it, don't you?

Erm, why is he? And why are you not? (Oportunity to answer my question from above, boy! Use it wise!)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:51:39 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:47:46 pm

Oh, right, sorry, I forgot :P

Also, Darvi, You are scum, and you know it, don't you?

Would it help if I answered it with "no"?
Either way, your singleminded attempts to get my lynched will only serve to make you suspicious as it looks like you're trying to scumhunt, but really aren't. There are other suspects, you know?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 06, 2011, 04:53:06 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:42:33 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 12:26:27 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 12:14:51 pm

I see you are now OMGUSing me by saying I did the same to you? You are a very scummy person. I don't like you. In fact...

darvi

Okay, you know what that's it Supercharazard. Stop WIFOMing and start playing. No, this is not an OMGUS.

Not every move directed against you is a scumtell, and not everything is an OMGUS. We target other people too, ya know.

Defending darvi? I suspect scum!

Hhum~ what?
unvote
SuperCharazad
Oh okay i am awake now... That's a very obvious scum tell... Even I know that...

Soo many posts!!!!! ARGGHHH

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: IronyOwl on February 06, 2011, 05:11:30 pm

Gah! This thing is really moving. Which is very good, just takes a bit of reading.

Anyway, I'm the (official) Town IC. I'm here to answer questions, give you advice, and generally try to ensure that you catch the scum and emerge victorious.

So far so good, though, especially for a weekend.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 05:36:34 pm

Easy there! We starting old fashioned bandwagon here so not be too hasty.
Well i understand the reasons so :Supercharazad Why do you keep calling scum everybody who ask you anything ? Also this isn't even RVS anymore, you just keep confusing everybody with your baseless accusations and FoS/Vote-ing.. You bring completely nothing new to investigate,so don't be surprised that you look scummy as hell. Your scumpicks please ? Unless you admit you're just playing scummy smokescreen here ?

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:24:29 pm

My FoS has been on you for a while. 'cept now I decided that I could do with one nemesis less around.

If you're town ,throwing votes on people without reason just because they voted you is simply idiotic,so tell me why i shouldn't consider you scum ?

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

[...]
Tiberyx: You seem experienced to me. Could you tell your  scumpicks, please?
[...]

I'm not experienced that's for sure,this is my only my second mafia game so don't overestimate my abilities ;p
And now for scumpicks:
1.Akhier : First of all he admitted that he got time to read everything,even listing votes,but he doesn't even ask a single question.Next thing is that he is simply avoiding direct attacking,leaving only vague and defensive answers.Ahkier who do you find most scummy at the moment? - i want simple answer please.
2.Zrk2 - lurkers killed the first game i played so maybe i'm kinda overreacting but you never know...
3.Supercharazad - reasons posted above.
4.SaintDraze - no serious contribution,and now kind of bandwagon jumping..

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 06, 2011, 05:43:15 pm

Quote from: Ottofar on February 06, 2011, 02:46:38 pm

Also, Argem, you could PM Japa about the spot, when Chewie's leaving.

I did; he said he's no longer interested. We'll need to find a replacement this week.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 03:47:25 pm

   Supercharazad, You forgot to unvote before you
voted again. Not that import right now but it helps.
   You to Darvi.

Unvoting is not strictly necessary. It's a good habit to have, but the new vote overrides the old vote at any rate, so it's not something anyone needs to worry about all that much.

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

(Mod: Could we please get a lurkertracker that only counts the posts after the reset? Thx in advance.)

No problem; the next one I post will be like that.

Quote from: Ottofar on February 06, 2011, 04:29:20 pm

*ahem*
Never edit in mafia.

Warning to Supercharazad and everyone else: DO NOT EDIT A POST EVER FOR ALL ETERNITY OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES

Thank you.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 05:50:18 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 04:50:32 pm

(I like that list, but I suggest you write the votes out ($name instead of V or $name instead of FoS) and colour the whole thing up a bit (votes=red, Unv=green, FoS=blue). Looking forward to it.)

   Good suggestion, I decided to do this mostly with
a little bit here and there of my own.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Akhier the Dragon hearted - 2 - Tyberix, and chewie
February 05,2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm   
February 06,2011
Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am   

SaintDraze - 0
February 06,2011
Akhier the Dragon hearted->Darvi->02:01:31am   Unvoted->Darvi->04:37:35am   lordnincompoop->04:55:10am   lordnincompoop->05:22:29am   Unvoted->Supercharazad->04:53:06pm   

lordnincompoop - 1 - Akhier the Dragon hearted
February 06,2011
SaintDraze->Tyberix->chewie->03:27:59am   Unvoted->SaintDraze->04:20:09am   Supercharazad->11:00:10am   Supercharazad->12:26:27pm   

TolyK - 0
February 06,2011
lordnincompoop->04:27:31am   Unvoted->Akhier the Dragon hearted->04:48:52am   Akhier the Dragon hearted->05:12:02am   Supercharazad->11:11:10am   

Tyberix - 0
February 06,2011
SaintDraze->lordnincompoop->04:51:29am   Supercharazad->10:59:39am   TolyK->11:01:37am   Supercharazad->Akhier the Dragon hearted->Zrk2->05:36:34pm

Supercharazad - 4 - SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, TolyK, and Darvi
February 06,2011
lordnincompoop->05:59:06am   lordnincompoop->08:58:08am   Darvi->10:49:01am   Darvi->12:14:51pm   Darvi->03:41:56pm   

Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06,2011
Zrk2->Akhier the Dragon hearted->Supercharazad->10:16:37am   TolyK->11:02:56am   Supercharazad->03:46:07pm   Unvoted->Supercharazad->03:49:04pm   

chewie - 0
February 06,2011
Akhier the Dragon hearted->3:50:18pm   Supercharazad->04:50:32pm   

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 06:09:28 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 05:36:34 pm

1.Akhier : First of all he admitted that he got time to read everything,even listing votes,but he doesn't even ask a single question.Next thing is that he is simply avoiding direct attacking,leaving only vague and defensive answers.Ahkier who do you find most scummy at the moment? - i want simple answer please.

   I am suspicious of Supercharazad and will probably
change my vote to him later but to do it now would
be without reason and a major bandwagon moment.
I already have you highly suspicious of me no need to
compound it with other things beyond my formatting.
Anyway I should ask questions its just I think about
what I want to ask and take so long someone already
asked it. I guess I will start questioning people more.

   Supercharazad: Why have you used circular logic
to defend yourself? Why when someone accuses you
of scum like behavior your first response seems to be
to accuse them of being scum because they had
accused you?
   Chewie: Why are you harassing me over my format?
Is it really that offensive that you have to try and kill
me over it? Your vote could be better used. Sure I post
a lot but is that a crime? lordnincompoop had almost
as many posts as me in the last mod count. Its the
weekend and I have nowhere to go.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 06, 2011, 08:12:14 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 05:36:34 pm

Easy there! We starting old fashioned bandwagon here so not be too hasty.
Well i understand the reasons so :Supercharazad Why do you keep calling scum everybody who ask you anything ? Also this isn't even RVS anymore, you just keep confusing everybody with your baseless accusations and FoS/Vote-ing.. You bring completely nothing new to investigate,so don't be surprised that you look scummy as hell. Your scumpicks please ? Unless you admit you're just playing scummy smokescreen here ?

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:24:29 pm

My FoS has been on you for a while. 'cept now I decided that I could do with one nemesis less around.

If you're town ,throwing votes on people without reason just because they voted you is simply idiotic,so tell me why i shouldn't consider you scum ?

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

[...]
Tiberyx: You seem experienced to me. Could you tell your  scumpicks, please?
[...]

I'm not experienced that's for sure,this is my only my second mafia game so don't overestimate my abilities ;p
And now for scumpicks:
1.Akhier : First of all he admitted that he got time to read everything,even listing votes,but he doesn't even ask a single question.Next thing is that he is simply avoiding direct attacking,leaving only vague and defensive answers.Ahkier who do you find most scummy at the moment? - i want simple answer please.
2.Zrk2 - lurkers killed the first game i played so maybe i'm kinda overreacting but you never know...
3.Supercharazad - reasons posted above.
4.SaintDraze - no serious contribution,and now kind of bandwagon jumping..

Umm. I had a bad case of Real Life over the weekend. I'm not feeling very into this game. Everyone, please state your scumpicks and why. I'm currently thinking Darvi or Supercharazad.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 02:39:08 am

Ok, I just woke up and only have like 10 minutes, so let's see what we got there...

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 05:36:34 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

[...]
Tiberyx: You seem experienced to me. Could you tell your  scumpicks, please?
[...]

I'm not experienced that's for sure,this is my only my second mafia game so don't overestimate my abilities ;p
And now for scumpicks:
1.Akhier : First of all he admitted that he got time to read everything,even listing votes,but he doesn't even ask a single question.Next thing is that he is simply avoiding direct attacking,leaving only vague and defensive answers.Ahkier who do you find most scummy at the moment? - i want simple answer please.
2.Zrk2 - lurkers killed the first game i played so maybe i'm kinda overreacting but you never know...
3.Supercharazad - reasons posted above.
4.SaintDraze - no serious contribution,and now kind of bandwagon jumping..

Oh. There we see what proper writing can make one look like. :P
Well I agree with your scumpicks so far. Especially about Saintdraze. That was his first real contribution since a good while. "kind of bandwagon jumping"? That was excactly Bandwagoning from him. Although he implied with his post that he's gonna post more, but I have yet to see something after 10 hours.

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 06, 2011, 08:12:14 pm

Umm. I had a bad case of Real Life over the weekend. I'm not feeling very into this game. Everyone, please state your scumpicks and why. I'm currently thinking Darvi or Supercharazad.

Ok, I understand that since I had similar problems. My Scumpicks (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953854#msg1953854)

I g2g guys. I'm gonna get to you this evening akhier. (who STILL hasn't answered my question -.-) I'm fine with your formatting btw.  ;D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 02:47:53 am

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 04:50:32 pm

 

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 06, 2011, 04:47:46 pm

Also, Darvi, You are scum, and you know it, don't you?

Erm, why is he? And why are you not? (Oportunity to answer my question from above, boy! Use it wise!)

Well, you see:

He OMGUSed me many times
He accused ME of OMGUSing HIM
I don't like him

Also:
I'm only putting accusations on him, my scumpicks:

darvi:reasons above
tolYk
Not sure about what order to put others in, hmm...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 02:56:32 am

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

Akhier: How do you think we should handle the noobtown-or-scum issue? Should we lynch every scummy-looking guy or should we say "well is a noob after all, let's go find someone else"? I'm aware that I did this several times (and probably once too much) in this post.

   If this was the question you meant then the answer
is simple. We go after the one that is most scummy
combined with least noobish. After the first day and
night is over we will be down 1 to 2 people and we
can start checking the past posts for anyone biased
against whoever died at night. Of course by biased
I mean more then just hating the person. For instance
if a person who died at night had someone who never
responded to them at all they would fall under suspicion.

   Unvote
   Also the Supercharazad bandwagon looks to much fun
for me to resist anymore.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 06:09:28 pm

   Supercharazad: Why have you used circular logic
to defend yourself? Why when someone accuses you
of scum like behavior your first response seems to be
to accuse them of being scum because they had
accused you?

Spoiler: Up to Date voting records (click to show/hide)

Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 2 - Tyberix, and chewie
February 05,2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm   
February 06,2011
Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am   Supercharazad->06:09:28pm
February 07,2011
Unvoted->Supercharazad->now

SaintDraze - 0
February 06,2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Darvi->02:01:31am   Unvoted->Darvi->04:37:35am   lordnincompoop->04:55:10am   lordnincompoop->05:22:29am   Unvoted->Supercharazad->04:53:06pm

lordnincompoop - 0
February 06,2011
SaintDraze->Tyberix->chewie->03:27:59am   Unvoted->SaintDraze->04:20:09am   Supercharazad->11:00:10am   Supercharazad->12:26:27pm

TolyK - 0
February 06,2011
lordnincompoop->04:27:31am   Unvoted->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:48:52am   Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->05:12:02am   Supercharazad->11:11:10am

Tyberix - 0
February 06,2011
SaintDraze->lordnincompoop->04:51:29am   Supercharazad->10:59:39am   TolyK->11:01:37am   Supercharazad->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Zrk2->05:36:34pm

Supercharazad - 5 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, TolyK, and Darvi
February 06,2011
lordnincompoop->05:59:06am   lordnincompoop->08:58:08am   Darvi->10:49:01am   Darvi->12:14:51pm   Darvi->03:41:56pm
February 07,2011
Darvi->02:47:53am

Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06,2011
Zrk2->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Supercharazad->10:16:37am   TolyK->11:02:56am   Supercharazad->03:46:07pm   Unvoted->Supercharazad->03:49:04pm

chewie - 0
February 06,2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->3:50:18pm   Supercharazad->04:50:32pm

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 03:13:22 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 02:47:53 am

He OMGUSed me many times

Once! òÓ

Quote

He accused ME of OMGUSing HIM

Well it's true. And you did it first anyways.

Quote

I don't like him

Too bad.
 
And now that Zrk2 has posted, my other scumpicks are Akhier for being less than helpful and bandwagonning and Saint for... well, bandwagoning.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 03:17:02 am

   I have helped people. In fact it has been commented
that I have been increasingly helpful. Do not know what
you expect form a new player help wise but whatever.
  I am "bandwagoning" Supercharazad because of the
reasons that I quoted in my last post.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 06:41:49 am

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 02:47:53 am

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 04:50:32 pm

Erm, why is he? And why are you not? (Oportunity to answer my question from above, boy! Use it wise!)

Well, you see:

He OMGUSed me many times
I can only see once.
He accused ME of OMGUSing HIM
once.
I don't like him
who doesn't like dwarves? oh really? why?

Also:
I'm only putting accusations on him, my scumpicks:

darvi:reasons above
tolYk for my comment-gotcha.

look above in bold text.
***
I'm working on an important project right now, but I will be looking at this. also I want to make an excel file listing likely/unlikely combos.

akhier has been very helpful, but that doesn't mean he's not scum. (sorry if you're town, but suspicion)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:26:37 am

Okay I am back on now...
Am I about to get lynched again?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 08:32:44 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:26:37 am

Okay I am back on now...
Am I about to get lynched again?

Yep.
I actually don't remember if I'm voting for you or not :P
Unvote for now until I'm sure.
How important is you dieing, SaintDraze, to you?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:35:34 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 06, 2011, 05:36:34 pm

Easy there! We starting old fashioned bandwagon here so not be too hasty.
Well i understand the reasons so :Supercharazad Why do you keep calling scum everybody who ask you anything ? Also this isn't even RVS anymore, you just keep confusing everybody with your baseless accusations and FoS/Vote-ing.. You bring completely nothing new to investigate,so don't be surprised that you look scummy as hell. Your scumpicks please ? Unless you admit you're just playing scummy smokescreen here ?

Quote from: Darvi on February 06, 2011, 04:24:29 pm

My FoS has been on you for a while. 'cept now I decided that I could do with one nemesis less around.

If you're town ,throwing votes on people without reason just because they voted you is simply idiotic,so tell me why i shouldn't consider you scum ?

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

[...]
Tiberyx: You seem experienced to me. Could you tell your  scumpicks, please?
[...]

I'm not experienced that's for sure,this is my only my second mafia game so don't overestimate my abilities ;p
And now for scumpicks:
1.Akhier : First of all he admitted that he got time to read everything,even listing votes,but he doesn't even ask a single question.Next thing is that he is simply avoiding direct attacking,leaving only vague and defensive answers.Ahkier who do you find most scummy at the moment? - i want simple answer please.
2.Zrk2 - lurkers killed the first game i played so maybe i'm kinda overreacting but you never know...
3.Supercharazad - reasons posted above.
4.SaintDraze - no serious contribution,and now kind of bandwagon jumping..

I admit that it is kind of bandwagon jumping but seriously... He has accused everyone that has pressured him of being scum.
...
but you are right we shouldn't bandwagon him right now... He's just got 2 strikes right?
Accusing darvi and arkhier...
Unvote
I am not understanding of the question Tolyk,
I Don't want to be speed lynched like I was in the last Game I was in...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 08:38:15 am

ah gotcha. you answered my question  :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:45:16 am

Okay I ought to make a scum list now...
Here I go!

1.SuperCharazad very obvious scum tells OMGUSing Doesn't look like he's helping much...
2.DarviHere only because he is a mustache twirling deviant... And I don't have much info on everyone else...
3.zrk2- not much of a poster...

My top townies
Tolyk, akheir, and chewie

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 08:49:02 am

Supercharazad: You're doing it again! I'm not sure if darvi's first vote could be called OMGUS-vote, it was rather standard RVS vote.Anyway if you're town why you got so defensive ? Throwing back the vote isn't really a good defense it rather makes you look like you have no way of proving you're useful to town. On the same topic : I can understand that you focus on one target but no other scumpicks is makes me feel like you have no interest in making them? Why ?

Ahkier Bandwagoning? If you want to vote someone state your reasons and vote not call it 'bandwagon' it makes it feel like you know it's wrong and scummy. Well,at least you showed that you are trying to scumhunt or you're good at faking it.

SaintDraze Well if you bring something new to the light,you got smaller chance of being lynched,so to help you fall into your own twisted reasoning : If only could lynch someone now,who would it be ?
Fake edit :Well,anyway you can answer this ;p

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 09:02:59 am

well If I could lynch anyone right now I would lynch SuperCharazad
Even if he is town he certainly is being a distraction from finding the real scum... Wouldn't you agree Tyberix?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 09:12:49 am

I am going to try rereading through this thread...
maybe then I will find the right person to question....

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 09:25:22 am

There we go!
Hey Lordnincompoop
got a bad case of the brain bugs or something?
you haven't posted in three pages!
don't you have any comments?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 10:51:55 am

Exams, school and time zones, biatch.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 11:07:33 am

I'd just like to mention I have some very important tests daily next week, and thus I will find it difficult to post anything, especially Mafia.
I will also likely be very busy the weeks afterward, so sorry in advance.

That said I'll try to whip something up after my studies.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 10:56:08 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 10:51:55 am

Exams, school and time zones, biatch.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 11:07:33 am

I'd just like to mention I have some very important tests daily next week, and thus I will find it difficult to post anything, especially Mafia.
I will also likely be very busy the weeks afterward, so sorry in advance.

That said I'll try to whip something up after my studies.

Whoops  must have missed that post :P
okay there goes my contribution to the game -_-

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 10:58:48 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:45:16 am

2.DarviHere only because he is a mustache twirling deviant...

That made my day ^^ Wrong kind of 'stache though, but still lol :D

Zrk2, please give us your reasons for your scumpicks.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 10:59:24 am

Leaving with a quick note:

Supercharazard, I know I've voted you already, but I'm going to put it in red anyways for emphasis.
Most all of your posts are accusatory, not to mention accusals directed at anyone who draws even the slightest amount of suspicion at you. you've accused almost everyone in here for OMGUSes and for being scum. You haven't contributed to the thread at all beyond a line a post, and the best argument you have are based on WIFOM and circular logic. You repeat your idea several times, on everyone. You strike me as scum, trying to desperately point fingers on anyone possible, and coming up with no good reasons to do so. Even if you aren't, you are hopelessly useless at this game (beyond newness), and you seem more intent on surviving than on finding scum. You must be eliminated.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 10:56:08 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 10:51:55 am

Exams, school and time zones, biatch.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 06, 2011, 11:07:33 am

I'd just like to mention I have some very important tests daily next week, and thus I will find it difficult to post anything, especially Mafia.
I will also likely be very busy the weeks afterward, so sorry in advance.

That said I'll try to whip something up after my studies.

Whoops  must have missed that post :P
okay there goes my contribution to the game -_-

It was in the "Fuck you I'm not lurking, I'm busy for this long" thread. Keep track of that one for future games.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 11:10:23 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 02:56:32 am

Quote from: chewie on February 06, 2011, 03:50:18 pm

Akhier: How do you think we should handle the noobtown-or-scum issue? Should we lynch every scummy-looking guy or should we say "well is a noob after all, let's go find someone else"? I'm aware that I did this several times (and probably once too much) in this post.

[Text]

Good answer, but a bit late, wasn't it? Well anyway, Unvote. (but I'll keep you in mind)

Just a thought about supercharazad: Can scum use the scumchat during the day phases too?
Because if he was scum, he would have access to the scumchat, and since (from what I've seen) there's way more communication  between the players and the IC in those, someone clearly would have told him to stop behalving the way he is.

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 02:47:53 am

my scumpicks:
darvi:reasons above
tolYk

Yeah? What excactly do you think about tolyk? Or, why does he seem scum to you? (And I still don't see why you shouldn't be lynched...)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 11:13:33 am

Also, my condolences about your uncle's death, chewie. Hope it works out.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 11:15:35 am

Few questions towards people on who i don't have clear opinion yet:

TolyK : It's only my feeling but why are you so eager to assume someone is town or defend them , maybe because you KNOW it ?
lordnincompoop :  I understand why you vote supercharazad but saying that if he's useless town he also should be lyched is scummy,isn't it ?

also :
Zrk2: Wake up!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:18:43 am

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 11:10:23 am

Because   if he was scum, he would have access to the scumchat, and since (from   what I've seen) there's way more communication  between the players and   the IC in those, someone clearly would have told him to stop behalving   the way he is.

You know, this might be all refuge in audacity on his part. Or maybe he simply didn't get the memo about the scumchat.

But if he is scum, I'm going to check who he hasn't accused yet, since I doubt he's the type to bus.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 11:15:35 am

lordnincompoop :  I understand why you vote supercharazad but saying that if he's useless town he also should be lyched is scummy,isn't it ?

Not really. Either he's scum or an acceptable loss, I don't think voting for him is scummy.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 11:22:27 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 11:15:35 am

Few questions towards people on who i don't have clear opinion yet:

TolyK : It's only my feeling but why are you so eager to assume someone is town or defend them , maybe because you KNOW it ?

I already have my opinion, and I ain't assume anyone's town. I'm just pushing them down my list as they answered my question with a satisfactory response.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:26:35 am

OHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCK!

Sorry for editing that post, I wanted to press Quote but I accidentally clicked edit. I swear I undid the changes I did!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 11:31:43 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:26:35 am

OHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCK!

Sorry for editing that post, I wanted to press Quote but I accidentally clicked edit. I swear I undid the changes I did!

Yep, he did.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:34:24 am

And now in  all that excitement I forgot why I even wanted to quote myself xP

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:41:06 am

Oh, now I remember.

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:18:43 am

But if he is scum, I'm going to check who he hasn't accused yet, since I doubt he's the type to bus.

So far he has accused lordnincompoop, me, and tolyk of being scum. He's given hardly any reason for the latter though, so I still won't trust him. You know what? I won't trust anybody. Much safer that way.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 11:47:43 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:41:06 am

Oh, now I remember.

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 11:18:43 am

But if he is scum, I'm going to check who he hasn't accused yet, since I doubt he's the type to bus.

So far he has accused lordnincompoop, me, and tolyk of being scum. He's given hardly any reason for the latter though, so I still won't trust him. You know what? I won't trust anybody. Much safer that way.

Three strikes and your out lol,Even if supercharazad is town he is distracting us from real scumhunting...
He is helping less then I am! :O

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 11:48:51 am

Wait, really? I thought I saw more.

There was Akhier too I think

Also, no good reasons at all.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 11:15:35 am

lordnincompoop :  I understand why you vote supercharazad but saying that if he's useless town he also should be lyched is scummy,isn't it ?

Yeah, I'm heavily leaning toward scum here, but if he's town I think it'll improve our game in general. He's done nothing but distract us and point at random people for the silliest of reasons. He can accuse me of OMGUSing all he wants, I think I have a damn good reason.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 11:54:58 am

yep... Time to revise my scum picks
1-Super-doesn't really matter if he is scum or not he is being pro scum.
2-Zrk2- He may be sleeping, but I don't really have anyone else to interrogate.
3-Darvi-His indescribable 'Stache can not be trusted!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 11:58:47 am

yeah supercharazard is actually seeming to "troll" us.
prove you're not scum, supercharazard

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:01:00 pm

Well I am going to ask
Darvi
a question...
Since super is obviously going to be lynched(or perhaps modkilled?), scum or no, who is the most likely person to be night killed?

p.s.Hey tolyk- I think supercharazard rage quited lol
perhaps arg can replace him?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:27 pm

Well I know this is a scumtell, but I'd like to say, I AM townie, and accusing ME is going to weaken the town (even if only by a bit).

Voting me = more chance of a scum win (only slightly more, but still)




So, as I know I'll lose, I'll go pro-scum and say: I GIVE UP.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:59 pm

I didn;t rage-quit, I'm still here, I want the town to suffer for lynching me.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:05:26 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 11:54:58 am

3-Darvi-His indescribable 'Stache can not be trusted!

That is an awful reason.

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:27 pm

Well I know this is a scumtell, but I'd like to say, I AM townie, and accusing ME is going to weaken the town (even if only by a bit).

Voting me = more chance of a scum win (only slightly more, but still)




So, as I know I'll lose, I'll go pro-scum and say: I GIVE UP.

Scumtells. Your obsession with them is how you got into this mess in the first place. Always remember Sturgeon's Law. Also town claims do nothing.

You give up? Really? Fight in to the last is what you should always do. Don't be disheartened.
But bah, I hate it when people just give up. Improving your game is all you need to do.

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:59 pm

I didn;t rage-quit, I'm still here, I want the town to suffer for lynching me.

Why are you being so malicious? Deal with it. It's Mafia, here we play hardball.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:07:48 pm

No, not this again...

Supercharazad I'm not sure you know what's happening so :
 -Could you tell us why do you think you're being voted ?
 -State your top scumpick with some reasoning.
 -Do not give up! Ask questions,search for inconsistency!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:10:08 pm

Oh lordnincompoop can't I be alittle silly :(

and super, you still have a chance of clearing your name and helping town at the same time,..
wait...
hey [B}Town IC[/B]
what are the chances of SuperCharazad not getting lynched so far?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:11:23 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 11:48:51 am

Wait, really? I thought I saw more.

Meh, I might've missed some.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 11:54:58 am

3-Darvi-His indescribable 'Stache can not be trusted!

If you wanna know, t kinda looks like this, but less... umm... thick? Or whatever.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://www.google.lu/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IYXkMMD2BJo/Sg9nffLze-I/AAAAAAAAADg/9OxPXivrgLA/s320/InigoMontoya.jpg&sa=X&ei=xiRQTZz0BMztOb--1eIP&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGCtx69M9emAu_tC5zxFa9nkLSPqA)
Hello supercharazad.
My name is Darvi.
You killed my reputation.
Prepare to die.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:01:00 pm

Well I am going to ask
Darvi
a question...
Since super is obviously going to be lynched(or perhaps modkilled?), scum or no, who is the most likely person to be night killed?

Hmm... dunno. Most likely not Zrk2 or chwie since they didn't do much until now and thus seem to be less a threat to the mafia.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:05:26 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 11:54:58 am

3-Darvi-His indescribable 'Stache can not be trusted!

That is an awful reason.

That is an awesome reason you man :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:15:24 pm

Tyberix
Same question,
Who do you think will most likely be night killed...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:21:05 pm

Akheir
Might as well ask you a question
Who do you suppose has a role and who doesn't?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:23:21 pm

Could we have votecount ,please ?

SaintDraze There's always the chance we lynch somebody else, so i'm not sure what you have in mind asking this question ;p

FakeEdit: Answer above is about your IC query.

 Well,guessing who will be killed is kind of useless since any answer could bias scum choice,but if you insist i could give you and your brain-eating partner few hints : People who are attacking them are for sure on the first place,if someone slip that he's cop or doc they're will be 100% dead next morning. As for now : NO IDEA :P

FakeEdit no 2 :

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:21:05 pm

Akheir
Might as well ask you a question
Who do you suppose has a role and who doesn't?

What blatant rolefishing ? This is serious accusation SaintDraze!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:26:43 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:23:21 pm

People who are attacking them are for sure on the first place,if someone slip that he's cop or doc they're will be 100% dead next morning.

So if I said that I were an investigator, but really weren't, would that count as an anti-heroic sacrifice?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:29:06 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:26:43 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:23:21 pm

People who are attacking them are for sure on the first place,if someone slip that he's cop or doc they're will be 100% dead next morning.

So if I said that I were an investigator, but really weren't, would that count as an anti-heroic sacrifice?

Well fake-claiming is most scummy thing to do so you will be probably lynched after counter claim from the real one,so it would be rather stupid sacrifice ;p

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:33:28 pm

Oh, right. Eh, wasn't to keen on doing that anyway.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 12:21:05 pm

Akheir
Might as well ask you a question
Who do you suppose has a role and who doesn't?

Blatant rolefishing is very suspicious, because it's in the scum's best interest to eliminate them.

Tyberix, you've made relatively few posts so far. Why is this? Trying to stay inconspicuous? Eh?

Darvi, few of your posts have been very productive. How interested are you in scumhunting?

TolyK, even with a clear target scumhunting is a goal to strive for. Why haven't you posted much as of late? Your lurkiness, especially your waiting for interesting content, is very suspicious indeed.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:40:26 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

Darvi, few of your posts have been very productive. How interested are you in scumhunting?

Meh, I'm not a productive person :P
But to answer your question I'd say... 87%? (Yeah, pulled that number out of my backside, but it's around that area, +-10%)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 12:45:20 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:27 pm

So, as I know I'll lose, I'll go pro-scum and say: I GIVE UP.

Dude, you still have 34 hours before the day ends, which is  lot. Also I asked you a few questions in my last post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955963#msg1955963). what about answering them?

Zrk2, Wouldn't you mind posting and answering the following question?

Who would you investigate in the next day phase if we lynch supercharazad today and he is revealed scum?

 

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:46:32 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

[...]
Tyberix, you've made relatively few posts so far. Why is this? Trying to stay inconspicuous? Eh?
[...]

Well,i don't want to post completely useless comments so i tend to post only when i notice something suspicious or to answer direct questions. Of course that's aside from posting evidence against someone or attacking them . Uh, this is the most idiotic answer i ever written about my low post count  :|.

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:40:26 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

Darvi, few of your posts have been very productive. How interested are you in scumhunting?

Meh, I'm not a productive person :P
But to answer your question I'd say... 87%? (Yeah, pulled that number out of my backside, but it's around that area, +-10%)

So what's the the remaining 13% ? Night killing/Surviving/Brain eating ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:49:27 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:46:32 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:40:26 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

Darvi, few of your posts have been very productive. How interested are you in scumhunting?

Meh, I'm not a productive person :P
But to answer your question I'd say... 87%? (Yeah, pulled that number out of my backside, but it's around that area, +-10%)

So what's the the remaining 13% ? Night killing/Surviving/Brain eating ?

Trying to get the effing internet connection to work.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:54:00 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 12:46:32 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:40:26 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

Darvi, few of your posts have been very productive. How interested are you in scumhunting?

Meh, I'm not a productive person :P
But to answer your question I'd say... 87%? (Yeah, pulled that number out of my backside, but it's around that area, +-10%)

So what's the the remaining 13% ? Night killing/Surviving/Brain eating ?

Trying to get the effing internet connection to work.
Actually, 75% of my time here consists of that and waiting for my posts to be sent.
 

Quote

Brain eating ?

Also, keep my personal life out of this! :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 12:57:49 pm

Bluh, see? After my first post it takes 5 minutes seemingly doing nothing, and then it takes 5 more minutes to resend the post only to reveal that the first one has already been sent. F*ck you internet. F*ck you.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 01:00:19 pm

What? well I retract my previous statement then...
Tyberix
my question for you is that, if upon finding out that supercharazad is infact scum or town, would your tactics change in anyway?
Suppose if super had a role?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 01:13:14 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:35:41 pm

TolyK, even with a clear target scumhunting is a goal to strive for. Why haven't you posted much as of late? Your lurkiness, especially your waiting for interesting content, is very suspicious indeed.

been busy making a game with some friends.
Plus, all the stuff that keeps feeding in seems to go with my predictions, I think I posted those haven't I?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 01:59:08 pm

Official Vote Count

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 1
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   Supercharazad (6) - Akhier, chewie, Darvi, nincompoop, Draze, TolyK
//  |   Darvi (1) - Supercharazad
//  |   Akhier the Dragon hearted (1) - Tyberix
//  |   
//  |   Not Voting (1) - Zrk2
//  |
//  |   No extension/shorten requests
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends: Tuesday, February 8 @ 10:00 PM EST
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

I forget who asked, but scum can communicate with each other at all times, whenever they want.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 02:17:20 pm

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LurkerTracker

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Replacements considered: Ottofar => The Ottofar; IronyOwl => IronyOwl: IC, Town; Vector => Vector: IC, Unofficial; Toaster => Toaster: IC, Scum.

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Akhier, I'm going to have to request that if you compile lists of recent votes in the future, that you put them within Quote tags.

They're confusing the LurkerTracker as they are now; I had to fix it manually.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:19:50 pm

What, Zrk2 only has 2 posts? Rather suspicious to me. No red text either.

Also IronyOwl, how are we doing so far? Scumhunt tips?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:20:21 pm

Vector too.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 01:00:19 pm

What? well I retract my previous statement then...
Tyberix
my question for you is that, if upon finding out that supercharazad is infact scum or town, would your tactics change in anyway?
Suppose if super had a role?

Absolutely. If he turn out to be scum ,we will have great advantage against his partner so we get some error margin, on the other side getting who is remaining scum from D1 info could be hard since i think everybody got the same feelings about his play.

If he flip town then with the night kill info the possible scum list will be much shorter and choosing who to press easier.

If he got the power role then : [facepalm]Most idiotic D1 doc/cop play ever.[/facepalm]

And i think it's time to prod Zrk2

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 02:23:24 pm

   Sorry about that Argembarger. I will from now on
put it in quote tags. Also what is the LurkerTracker.
The way you mention it means it is an actual thing
so you are not crazy like me and do all of the stuff
by hand.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 02:24:29 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

And i think it's time to prod Zrk2

Prodding Zrk2 with da red.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Ottofar on February 07, 2011, 02:27:57 pm

LurkerTracker is a Perl script by Zathras. It tracks lurkers.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 02:30:19 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

And i think it's time to prod Zrk2

Not quite; prods don't happen until 36 hours without a post.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Ottofar on February 07, 2011, 02:44:37 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 12:05:26 pm

Why are you being so malicious? Deal with it. It's Mafia, here we play hardball.

Indeed. It is as a wise man once said: "This is Mafia. There is no 'softball'. There is only 'hardball' and 'harder-ball.'"

Also

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:27 pm

So, as I know I'll lose, I'll go pro-scum and say: I GIVE UP.

You do win with your team, no matter whether you breathe or not.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 02:51:30 pm

ya know what?
I want to extend to get zrk2's input.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 02:54:51 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 01:00:19 pm

What? well I retract my previous statement then...
Tyberix
my question for you is that, if upon finding out that supercharazad is infact scum or town, would your tactics change in anyway?
Suppose if super had a role?

Absolutely. If he turn out to be scum ,we will have great advantage against his partner so we get some error margin, on the other side getting who is remaining scum from D1 info could be hard since i think everybody got the same feelings about his play.

If he flip town then with the night kill info the possible scum list will be much shorter and choosing who to press easier.

If he got the power role then : [facepalm]Most idiotic D1 doc/cop play ever.[/facepalm]

And i think it's time to prod Zrk2

well if super does have a role it would explain the rashness of his actions... being a new player and all his newb mind would be frazzled and make him super paranoid...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

Seriously, where'd the little rascal go?

TolyK: What do you think of these recent developments? Who are your scumpicks now?

chewie: What is your take on all of us so far?

Zrk2: Who is your scumpick? Why are you lurking?

SaintDraze: If Supercharazard turns out to be a role, would your strategy change?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 03:03:44 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

Seriously, where'd the little rascal go?

TolyK: What do you think of these recent developments? Who are your scumpicks now?

chewie: What is your take on all of us so far?

Zrk2: Who is your scumpick? Why are you lurking?

SaintDraze: If Supercharazard turns out to be a role, would your strategy change?

Not really...He wouldn't know how to use his role anyway...
Although it would be bad if he was a cop...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:06:27 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

Seriously, where'd the little rascal go?

TolyK: What do you think of these recent developments? Who are your scumpicks now?

(Side note: zrk2 said he was busy, but he better come out soon...)
(Side note: going to bed very soon. it's about 10 PM here.)

Super for being defensive and counter-attacking. though it could be a nervous guy with a role.
Akhir - helpful, but just seems a little shaky. also the format of his posts.
lordnincompoop - shaky. some arguments not too stable.
draze - same as the Lord
zrk2 - passive and lurking.
darvi - being darvi not showing much in terms of bait/probe.
chewie hasn't posted enough for a probe

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:07:07 pm

sorry guys i really gotta sleep now.
remember to extend the day  ;D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:08:12 pm

Saintdraze: Why are you writing each (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956112#msg1956112) of (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956123#msg1956123) your questions in a separate post? Also I'd like you to answer the same question that I asked Zrk2:

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 12:45:20 pm

Who would you investigate in the next day phase if we lynch supercharazad today and he is revealed scum?

Note: Investigate as in "do-the-scumhunt" and not as in cop-like investigating.

This inspires me to a new question...
Lordnimcompoop, who would you target this night if you were the doctor?

Fakeedit:

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

chewie: What is your take on all of us so far?

This is gonna take a while... but I'll start now.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:10:28 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:08:12 pm

This inspires me to a new question...
Lordnimcompoop, who would you target this night if you were the doctor?

Me, of course. :P

I would naturally target the one I find the most active/useful. I think it's obvious enough who that is.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:13:11 pm

akhir?
hmmm... roles...
well the last BM had the police killed first night, and I haven't had any experience with roles.
so there's a 50% chance for all roles? scum roles too?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:15:25 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:06:27 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

Seriously, where'd the little rascal go?

TolyK: What do you think of these recent developments? Who are your scumpicks now?

(Side note: zrk2 said he was busy, but he better come out soon...)
(Side note: going to bed very soon. it's about 10 PM here.)

Super for being defensive and counter-attacking. though it could be a nervous guy with a role.
Akhir - helpful, but just seems a little shaky. also the format of his posts.
lordnincompoop - shaky. some arguments not too stable.
draze - same as the Lord
zrk2 - passive and lurking.
darvi - being darvi not showing much in terms of bait/probe.
chewie hasn't posted enough for a probe

Well, we are newbies.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:18:05 pm

exactly, which is why i put it there.
...
newbie games seem harder now  :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 03:23:25 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:13:11 pm

akhir?
hmmm... roles...
well the last BM had the police killed first night, and I haven't had any experience with roles.
so there's a 50% chance for all roles? scum roles too?

Every individual role has a 50% chance to appear.

I flipped a coin for every one of them.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 03:24:22 pm

Tolyk If you were scum who would you consider most dangerous and why ?

SaintDraze Same as above . Also why do you think there's both cop and doc or only one ?

chewie Assuming that supercharazad is scum who will be his partner ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:32:51 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 03:23:25 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:13:11 pm

Every individual role has a 50% chance to appear.
I flipped a coin for every one of them.

cool thanks

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 03:24:22 pm

Tolyk If you were scum who would you consider most dangerous and why ?

(probably my last post for today)
It would probably be whoever is making the most progress. Possible akhir for being helpful to town (in a non-mafia way). saintdraze and lordnincompoop are also making progress (well at least not hindering  :P) and you're asking some good questions. Not quite sure though, not too experiened as mafia.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:33:13 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:32:51 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 03:23:25 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:13:11 pm

Every individual role has a 50% chance to appear.
I flipped a coin for every one of them.

cool thanks

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 03:24:22 pm

Tolyk If you were scum who would you consider most dangerous and why ?

(probably my last post for today)
It would probably be whoever is making the most progress. Possible akhir for being helpful to town (in a non-mafia way). saintdraze and lordnincompoop are also making progress (well at least not hindering  :P) and you're asking some good questions. Not quite sure though, not too experiened as mafia.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:33:44 pm

aurgh I forgot to check before posting twice  ::)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:44:16 pm

For some reason I'm not getting any questions so:

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 03:24:22 pm

If you were scum who would you consider most dangerous and why ? People that would be good at masquerading as productive town and those who can stay hidden, for obvious reasons. Unfortunately, these are the people we need most, and with a mislynch we may end up losing the most important people.

Also why do you think there's both cop and doc or only one ? There are often both, and it's always nice to keep up hope.

Assuming that supercharazad is scum who will be his partner ? A person that he hasn't interacted with yet, probably. Newscum tend not to bus as was mentioned.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 03:52:29 pm

Well if super turns out to be scum I would try investing everyone who wasn't accused by him as scum... as darvi said before super doesn't look like the bussing type...
starting with Tyberix
his avatar is freaky
Akheir
He did keep that lynch vote on me for a while... silliness or no...
then tyberixHe needs to be questioned more..
then you, chewie likewise..

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 03:56:23 pm

   Actually I took it off you and put it on lordnincompoop
quite rapidly.

Quote

Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)

   Just a little over 3 hours.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 03:57:34 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 03:56:23 pm

   Actually I took it off you and put it on lordnincompoop
quite rapidly.

Quote

Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)

   Just a little over 3 hours.

Really? wow I have no concept of time :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:57:46 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:10:28 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:08:12 pm

This inspires me to a new question...
Lordnimcompoop, who would you target this night if you were the doctor?

Me, of course. :P

Oh that's possible? Cool. Didn't know that.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

chewie: What is your take on all of us so far?

Here we go, starting with most suspicious:

Supercharazad: I don't think I have to say very much about that one. He's totally panicking, getting out the You'll-regret-it card instead of anwering the many questions people have been asking him and of course is not scumhunting. I get the feeling that he really gave up the game and won't be posting anymore, which is sad because he probably was a noobtown like most of us. At least he wasn't of much use.

Akhier: Although I like his voting list, I've yet to see a real attack on someone from him. It also took him quite a while (read:I had to remind him twice) to answer my question (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953854#msg1953854). And one of my notes says "talks much, but says a little". I'll probably gonna get back to him in the next day-phase.

Zrk2: Has not done ANYTHING mentionable since the reset. His last post was an excuse for his lurkiness and he dropped 2 random scumpicks (jumped on the super-obvious supercharazad and darvi for reasons he didn't explain.). But I think he still has plenty of time. Note about him: In a few previous games he was lynched as townie, once even on the first day, if I remember correctly.

Saintdraze: Doing lots of posts. I wouldn't mind if some of them were a bit longer. He asks many questions but fails to question the answers (seriously).

TolyK: Has many posts. But short ones. It also seems to me that he's being vague (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953996#msg1953996) leads to an example. what did he mean?) most of the time. But he has yet to do any scumtells or scummy behaviour at all, I think. About his extend-request: The day isn't over yet. Zrk2 still has plenty of time to post and explain himself.

Darvi: I think, we can say that he was the one to get supercharazad into his situation and succeded in convincing us to lynch him (but that wasn't hard...). But he did something useful.

Tyberix, Lordnimcompoop: Well, it's very hard to get a read on you two guys. You're both quite active, asking (and answering) questions and you scumhunt. You're also inquiring and commenting about other peoples questions and answers. I wish I could be as active as you guys.


Wow, that was brain consuming...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Ottofar on February 07, 2011, 04:01:53 pm

No. Protecting self isn't possible.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:09:06 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:44:16 pm

For some reason I'm not getting any questions so:

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 03:24:22 pm

[questions]

Getting any questions? You probably meant no answers. Why do you answer those if they haven't been posed to you. And I have been busy writing my last post, as you could guess.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 03:24:22 pm

chewie Assuming that supercharazad is scum who will be his partner ?

No clue. In the beginning of that little conflict he had there he FoS'd everyone who corresponded to him, but he stopped that, maybe because like all of us talked to him (or he learned something, but meh). His death probably is a decided thing (unless he suddenly gets really good at this game) so there's no point for his partner not to vote him. From that pov it could be everyone.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 03:52:29 pm

He did keep that lynch vote on me for a while... silliness or no...
then tyberixHe needs to be questioned more..
then you, chewie likewise..

Then why don't you do it? It's not like I'm right here you know...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:12:28 pm

Quote from: Ottofar on February 07, 2011, 04:01:53 pm

No. Protecting self isn't possible.

Guess what Lordnimcompoop. Mind giving my question another go?

I'll go to bed in the next approx. 20-30 minutes. I'm here to answer any questions until then.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:14:04 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:06:27 pm

darvi - being darvi not showing much in terms of bait/probe.

Hmmm, what do you mean by bait?

Quote from: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 03:23:25 pm

I flipped a coin for every one of them.

Not using random.org? Shame on you! :P

Quote

Darvi: I think, we can say that he was the one to get supercharazad into   his situation and succeded in convincing us to lynch him (but that   wasn't hard...). But he did something useful.

Wait, wait, wait...let me get this straight. You actually said I did something useful? oO
Something must be really wrong here on Earth...

Quote from: Ottofar on February 07, 2011, 04:01:53 pm

No. Protecting self isn't possible.

True dat.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 04:22:16 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:57:46 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:10:28 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:08:12 pm

This inspires me to a new question...
Lordnimcompoop, who would you target this night if you were the doctor?

Me, of course. :P

Oh that's possible? Cool. Didn't know that.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:58:12 pm

chewie: What is your take on all of us so far?

Here we go, starting with most suspicious:

Supercharazad: I don't think I have to say very much about that one. He's totally panicking, getting out the You'll-regret-it card instead of anwering the many questions people have been asking him and of course is not scumhunting. I get the feeling that he really gave up the game and won't be posting anymore, which is sad because he probably was a noobtown like most of us. At least he wasn't of much use.

Akhier: Although I like his voting list, I've yet to see a real attack on someone from him. It also took him quite a while (read:I had to remind him twice) to answer my question (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953854#msg1953854). And one of my notes says "talks much, but says a little". I'll probably gonna get back to him in the next day-phase.

Zrk2: Has not done ANYTHING mentionable since the reset. His last post was an excuse for his lurkiness and he dropped 2 random scumpicks (jumped on the super-obvious supercharazad and darvi for reasons he didn't explain.). But I think he still has plenty of time. Note about him: In a few previous games he was lynched as townie, once even on the first day, if I remember correctly.

Saintdraze: Doing lots of posts. I wouldn't mind if some of them were a bit longer. He asks many questions but fails to question the answers (seriously).

TolyK: Has many posts. But short ones. It also seems to me that he's being vague (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953996#msg1953996) leads to an example. what did he mean?) most of the time. But he has yet to do any scumtells or scummy behaviour at all, I think. About his extend-request: The day isn't over yet. Zrk2 still has plenty of time to post and explain himself.

Darvi: I think, we can say that he was the one to get supercharazad into his situation and succeded in convincing us to lynch him (but that wasn't hard...). But he did something useful.

Tyberix, Lordnimcompoop: Well, it's very hard to get a read on you two guys. You're both quite active, asking (and answering) questions and you scumhunt. You're also inquiring and commenting about other peoples questions and answers. I wish I could be as active as you guys.


Wow, that was brain consuming...

I'm still here. Watching.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:24:50 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:14:04 pm

Quote

Darvi: I think, we can say that he was the one to get supercharazad into   his situation and succeded in convincing us to lynch him (but that   wasn't hard...). But he did something useful.

Wait, wait, wait...let me get this straight. You actually said I did something useful? oO
Something must be really wrong here on Earth...

Argh, that was bad expressing of thoughts. Should be more like "he's more useful in general than... let's say, me".  Especially if one remembers that you have connection issues.  Though you're a bit spammy.

And because I was ordered to produce that huge wall of text  over there, I'd like to see the same of you, Akhier! So I ask you to explain your opinion on anyone of us.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 04:26:55 pm

   Well I just finished updating my vote records and I
also went and made each of the time spots a link to
the post that it is from.
   Chewie: I will tell you what I think of you all in my
next post. I promise!

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

Quote

Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - Tyberix
February 06, 2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951839#msg1951839)   
February 06, 2011
Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)   Supercharazad->06:09:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954251#msg1954251)
February 07, 2011
Unvoted->Supercharazad->02:56:32 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955328#msg1955328)

SaintDraze - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Darvi->02:01:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952452#msg1952452)   Unvoted->Darvi->04:37:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952703#msg1952703)   lordnincompoop->04:55:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952729#msg1952729)   lordnincompoop->05:22:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952782#msg1952782)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->04:53:06pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954042#msg1954042)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:35:34am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955718#msg1955718)   Supercharazad->Darvi->8:45:16am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955733#msg1955733)   lordnincompoop->09:25:22am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955802#msg1955802)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->Tyberix->chewie->03:27:59am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952589#msg1952589)   Unvoted->SaintDraze->04:20:09am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952670#msg1952670)   Supercharazad->11:00:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953195#msg1953195)   Supercharazad->12:26:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953354#msg1953354)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazard->10:59:54am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955945#msg1955945)

TolyK - 0
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->04:27:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952684#msg1952684)   Unvoted->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:48:52am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952718#msg1952718)   Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->05:12:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952757#msg1952757)   Supercharazad->11:11:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953212#msg1953212)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:32:44am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955712#msg1955712)   Supercharazard->11:58:47am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956065#msg1956065)   Zrk2->02:24:29 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956399#msg1956399)

Tyberix - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->lordnincompoop->04:51:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952724#msg1952724)   Supercharazad->10:59:39am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953193#msg1953193)   TolyK->11:01:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953199#msg1953199)   Supercharazad->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Zrk2->05:36:34pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954160#msg1954160)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazad->08:49:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955738#msg1955738)   Zrk2->11:15:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955971#msg1955971)   SaintDraze->12:23:21pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956129#msg1956129)

Supercharazad - 6 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, Chewie, TolyK, and Darvi
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->05:59:06am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952830#msg1952830)   lordnincompoop->08:58:08am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952985#msg1952985)   Darvi->10:49:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953179#msg1953179)   Darvi->12:14:51pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953330#msg1953330)   Darvi->03:41:56pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953829#msg1953829)
February 07, 2011
Darvi->02:47:53am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955310#msg1955310)

Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
Zrk2->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Supercharazad->10:16:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953114#msg1953114)   TolyK->11:02:56am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953202#msg1953202)   Supercharazad->03:46:07pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953839#msg1953839)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->03:49:04pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953849#msg1953849)

chewie - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->3:50:18pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953854#msg1953854)   Supercharazad->04:50:32pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954037#msg1954037)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->supercharazad->11:10:23am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955963#msg1955963)   Zrk2->12:45:20pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956175#msg1956175)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 04:27:49 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:57:46 pm

TolyK: Has many posts. But short ones. It also seems to me that he's being vague (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953996#msg1953996) leads to an example. what did he mean?) most of the time. But he has yet to do any scumtells or scummy behaviour at all, I think. About his extend-request: The day isn't over yet. Zrk2 still has plenty of time to post and explain himself.

about the "vague" thing, that was me replying to darvi on what super accidentally did (edited)
if there's anything else you don't get just ask.
extend: just saying that longer doesn't hurt and that I'm voting for it if it comes to it.

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:14:04 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:06:27 pm

darvi - being darvi not showing much in terms of bait/probe.

Hmmm, what do you mean by bait?

scum finding using lines such as "If you were the sherrif" or "who would ***'s scum partner be" or that sort of thing. I know I haven't much either, but it just makes me a bit ... you know. suspicious.

Quote

watching...

for what ? a bait line?

Quote

darvi a bit spammy...

he's darvi.duh. ;)

**
NINJAS!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:28:51 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 04:27:49 pm

NINJAS!

Where? *cutlass*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:30:44 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 04:27:49 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:14:04 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 03:06:27 pm

darvi - being darvi not showing much in terms of bait/probe.

Hmmm, what do you mean by bait?

scum finding using lines such as "If you were the sherrif" or "who would ***'s scum partner be" or that sort of thing. I know I haven't much either, but it just makes me a bit ... you know. suspicious.

Ah. So regular scumhunting then.

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:24:50 pm

Though you're a bit spammy.

SPAMSPAMSPAM!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:32:22 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 04:22:16 pm

I'm still here. Watching.

Then why don't you post? I mean, what's the worst thing to happen that is not worse than your death? If you're really a townie/interested in town winning, then you give it another try and answer the questions asked to you.

2 new replies? Blublublubluh, I'll go to bed now.

Spoiler: Also, this: (sorry if not allowed) (click to show/hide)

From Zrk2's profile:

Quote

Last Active:
Today at 21:11:30

(which was ~1hour ago)
Let's hope he has good reasons for that.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 04:34:07 pm

Analyzing a player's forum stats is perfectly fine.

Knock yourselves out :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:34:51 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 04:34:07 pm

Analyzing a player's forum stats is perfectly fine.

Knock yourselves out :P

Heh. I'm gonna look out for people's online status when the nightkilling begins *g*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:35:19 pm

One last post. Just for the lulz:

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:30:44 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:24:50 pm

Though you're a bit spammy.

SPAMSPAMSPAM!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE)

Derp. (http://www.montypythonsspamalot.com/) Theres also a flash game somewhere. It's hilarious.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 04:35:47 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 04:22:16 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 03:57:46 pm

...

I'm still here. Watching.

I strongly recommend you to start defending yourself or scumhunting,this way you only make it harder for town...

Darvi Even if you are 100% of your vote on supercharazad you shouldn't stop searching for scum. Also i want to hear your top scum-team-pick (is there some word for it ?).

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 04:41:24 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:34:51 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 07, 2011, 04:34:07 pm

Analyzing a player's forum stats is perfectly fine.

Knock yourselves out :P

Heh. I'm gonna look out for people's online status when the nightkilling begins *g*

Scum doesn't have to submit their night kills through PM's, silly.

Not to mention that's just a bucket of potential misinformation anyway, because I don't necessarily end the night immediately after I have all the info in.

But, there's nothing that can stop you guys from playing that kind of meta game.

So now you know.

Go, and exploit and counter-exploit each other into oblivion.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:42:28 pm

Well f*ck.

I'm off to bed then, if the forums don't distract me any longer >_>

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 04:46:39 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:12:28 pm

Quote from: Ottofar on February 07, 2011, 04:01:53 pm

No. Protecting self isn't possible.

Guess what Lordnimcompoop. Mind giving my question another go?

I'll go to bed in the next approx. 20-30 minutes. I'm here to answer any questions until then.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 03:10:28 pm

I would naturally target the one I find the most active/useful. I think it's obvious enough who that is.

I'd say that's either you or TolyK at this point but I'm not Doc so whatever. I was reluctant to point it out, because the scum may use that in their NK.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 03:56:23 pm

   Actually I took it off you and put it on lordnincompoop
quite rapidly.

Quote

Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)

   Just a little over 3 hours.

What?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 05:08:42 pm

Quote from: chewie on February 07, 2011, 04:24:50 pm

And because I was ordered to produce that huge wall of text  over there, I'd like to see the same of you, Akhier! So I ask you to explain your opinion on anyone of us.

Spoiler: You Asked For IT (click to show/hide)

   SaintDraze: I find you suspicious but overall
you seem fine to me. Except for just after the reset
where we scuffled a bit over my avatar and such I
would consider you having done an excelent job at
the game so far.
   lordnincompoop: You are suspicious and I may
go back to voting for you after this day. But besides
that I like you and you seem to be doing a good job at
this so your only my backup scum and really the chances
are I find another target.
   TolyK: Meh, neither here nor there. A number
of posts and your active in the game. Unless you do
something supsicious I will only have one eye on you.
   Tyberix: You seem to get the scumhunting thing,
wish I did as well as you but whatever. I agree with chewie
that you are a hard read.
   Supercharazad: Your scummie actions outnumbered
you noob actions overall. When people ask you questions
in the future, try answer the question and not accusing
them of being scum. It was like watching a doctor with one
of those little hammers hitting a kids knee over and over.
   Darvi: Your a sneaky one but I do not think you
are scum but only because of some of your ungaurded posts
and not anything you tried doing.
   chewie: So, yah...
I guess whatever man...
Your okay in your special way...
not quite sure about you but atleast your not obviusly scum.
Oh and you re-gifted your question.
   Akhier the Dragon hearted: You post excessively
sometimes and while not overtly scummy you seem to
not ask enough questions. I do like your Vote set up
though that link thing must have taken a lot of time to
add in after the fact, why did you not see it to begin with?
   Argembarger: Your alright for a mod. Except for
the little misunderstanding at the start with the whole
reset thing you have done really fine job. I would definitely
play in another of your games if it sounded interesting.
   IronyOwl: Though you have not posted much
that is probably just because we have not asked much.
   Toaster: You help the enemy so you must be
a brave little toaster indead.

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - Tyberix
February 06, 2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951839#msg1951839)   
February 06, 2011
Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)   Supercharazad->06:09:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954251#msg1954251)
February 07, 2011
Unvoted->Supercharazad->02:56:32 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955328#msg1955328)

SaintDraze - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Darvi->02:01:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952452#msg1952452)   Unvoted->Darvi->04:37:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952703#msg1952703)   lordnincompoop->04:55:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952729#msg1952729)   lordnincompoop->05:22:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952782#msg1952782)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->04:53:06pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954042#msg1954042)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:35:34am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955718#msg1955718)   Supercharazad->Darvi->8:45:16am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955733#msg1955733)   lordnincompoop->09:25:22am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955802#msg1955802)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->Tyberix->chewie->03:27:59am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952589#msg1952589)   Unvoted->SaintDraze->04:20:09am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952670#msg1952670)   Supercharazad->11:00:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953195#msg1953195)   Supercharazad->12:26:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953354#msg1953354)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazard->10:59:54am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955945#msg1955945)

TolyK - 0
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->04:27:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952684#msg1952684)   Unvoted->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:48:52am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952718#msg1952718)   Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->05:12:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952757#msg1952757)   Supercharazad->11:11:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953212#msg1953212)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:32:44am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955712#msg1955712)   Supercharazard->11:58:47am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956065#msg1956065)   Zrk2->02:24:29 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956399#msg1956399)

Tyberix - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->lordnincompoop->04:51:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952724#msg1952724)   Supercharazad->10:59:39am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953193#msg1953193)   TolyK->11:01:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953199#msg1953199)   Supercharazad->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Zrk2->05:36:34pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954160#msg1954160)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazad->08:49:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955738#msg1955738)   Zrk2->11:15:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955971#msg1955971)   SaintDraze->12:23:21pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956129#msg1956129)   Darvi->04:35:47pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956718#msg1956718)

Supercharazad - 6 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, Chewie, TolyK, and Darvi
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->05:59:06am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952830#msg1952830)   lordnincompoop->08:58:08am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952985#msg1952985)   Darvi->10:49:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953179#msg1953179)   Darvi->12:14:51pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953330#msg1953330)   Darvi->03:41:56pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953829#msg1953829)
February 07, 2011
Darvi->02:47:53am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955310#msg1955310)

Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
Zrk2->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Supercharazad->10:16:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953114#msg1953114)   TolyK->11:02:56am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953202#msg1953202)   Supercharazad->03:46:07pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953839#msg1953839)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->03:49:04pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953849#msg1953849)

chewie - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->3:50:18pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953854#msg1953854)   Supercharazad->04:50:32pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954037#msg1954037)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->supercharazad->11:10:23am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955963#msg1955963)   Zrk2->12:45:20pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956175#msg1956175)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 05:28:40 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 05:08:42 pm

I find you suspicious but overall
you seem fine to me.
[...]
You are suspicious and I may
go back to voting for you after this day. But besides
that I like you and you seem to be doing a good job at
this
[...]

If you don't have any solid evidence/clear scumtells telling that to the suspect isn't really a good idea. It makes your attacks look baseless. Better to put more pressure even if it isn't justified - if they are town they have nothing to fear from it  and if they are scum it could force them into making mistakes.

Few simple questions and i'll be going :
Everyone If you could reveal scum with your death,would you do that?
Akhier Who would you inspect as a cop tonight ?
Darvi You're playing much more defensive than last game,why ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 05:31:47 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 05:28:40 pm

Darvi You're playing much more defensive than last game,why ?

Erm... define defensive. Do you mean that I try try to scum hunt less or what?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 05:08:42 pm

Spoiler: You Asked For IT (click to show/hide)

   Akhier the Dragon hearted: You post excessively
sometimes and while not overtly scummy you seem to
not ask enough questions. I do like your Vote set up
though that link thing must have taken a lot of time to
add in after the fact, why did you not see it to begin with?

You do know that's you, right?

Quote

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   Toaster: You help the enemy so you must be
a brave little toaster indead.

Hurhurhur :D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 05:34:09 pm

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Well I suppose I should make a list of what I think of everyone myself
Akhier-the feeling is mutual...
Lordnincompoop- I -... WAIT A SECOND

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 05, 2011, 07:04:04 pm

    Oi, Argembarger, aren't we all supposed to recieve roles before the game starts?

I'm a super special ninja godfather. Not even I know my alignment xD-Darvi

And then you posted

Quote

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 04:28:51 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 04:27:49 pm

NINJAS!

Where? *cutlass*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 05:36:04 pm

I'm a ninja-pirate (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_Pirate). It's... difficult. I know ninja tricks but absolutely loathe them.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 05:38:17 pm

The ninjas, that is.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 05:38:47 pm

   For the everyone question I would because there
are less scum then regular people so as long as its
me for a scum its fine.
   As a cop I would first inspect you actually because
you are good at scum hunting and I want to be able to
trust you or know that I need to work against you so
I could head off your excellent fake scum hunting.

   Darvi: Yes I know its me, I just wanted to start off
my joke ones with a could be real one.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 05:52:56 pm

So that must also make you.... .
Scum-Town!!
:O
Anyways, To the everyone question- no because that would be th- wait... you want me to answer no because that would look scummy! lol so yes... I would sacrifice myself to kill scum...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

lordnincompoop- I would say that you are hard to read...Makes me very suspicious...
Tyberix-why do I feel like your scum? perhaps its the avatar...But i also can't put my finger on you either...
chewie- Your okay with me, Posts are pretty solid
supercharazad-better luck next time...
Darvi-your okay...Except for your 'stache.
Darvi's 'stache-You are pure evil!!!!EVIL!!!!
Saintdraze-You are an enigma wrapped in a puzzle cube, with a garnish of mystery... you Sexy beast! XD.
Arg-well your a good mod, but how could you change your avatar...
Tolyk-your okay so far... I have no reason not to belive you are not not scum...
Toaster-You will suffer >:3
Bacon-stay classy

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 05:08:42 pm

   lordnincompoop: You are suspicious and I may
go back to voting for you after this day. But besides
that I like you and you seem to be doing a good job at
this so your only my backup scum and really the chances
are I find another target.

How am I suspicious?
You do realise that if you don't come up with anything specific, I can't say anything, right?
I'm open. All you need to do is ask.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 05:28:40 pm

Everyone If you could reveal scum with your death,would you do that?

No. It is against the rules to reveal anything even mildly useful in a Bah Post. Besides, that would ruin the game.

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 05:36:04 pm

I'm a ninja-pirate (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_Pirate). It's... difficult. I know ninja tricks but absolutely loathe them.

Yo stop fake-claiming and start working

Akhier: Are you worried at all about revealing your info to us?
Darvi: Why so useless?
Tolyk: Have you any questions to ask of us?
SaintDraze: If you were to be the subject fo a bandwagon, how would you pull yourself out?
chewie: Why is the scumhunt not continuing?
Tyberix: What is your read on everyone here?

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 05:52:56 pm

lordnincompoop- I would say that you are hard to read...Makes me very suspicious...

Then ask

Jeez

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 07, 2011, 05:59:55 pm

Shit. This thread moves fucking fast and my internet is on the fritz. Anyway, upon reading it seems to me that Supercharazad is scum. He just seems to be avoiding questions.

However the same can be said for me because I have been inactive. Shit, this is not going well. At least all the coversation is helping us townies. If you have any questions for me throw them out now, and I will endeavour to provide a detailed response to each.

Freaking NINJAS!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 06:05:23 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 05:36:04 pm

I'm a ninja-pirate (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_Pirate). It's... difficult. I know ninja tricks but absolutely loathe them.

Yo stop fake-claiming and start working

I'm not fake-claiming ;D

Quote

Darvi: Why so useless?

Bluh, still waiting for Zrk2 to post. I want to ask him some questions.
But you're right, there's plenty other people around.

Tolyk: Who would you definitely not try to lynch? Aside from yourself, that is.
Tyberix: What would you do if you were scum?
Akhier: Please change your formatting, it's bothersome T_T
'Stache: Why do you  think that people accuse you of being evil?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 06:06:14 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 07, 2011, 05:59:55 pm

Freaking NINJAS!

That's what she I said!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 06:06:30 pm

Ugh,sorry but i'm going to sleep now, i'll post full report on everyone and answer tomorrow.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 06:06:53 pm

Zrk2, elaborate on your absence, Supercharazard's guiltiness and why we shouldn't lynch you for activelurking. What is your read on us? Are there any questions you want to ask? Who are your scumpicks? Who is supercharazard's partner?

I'd like everyone to answer there questions too, where applicable.

Goddamn ninjas.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 06:07:41 pm

Zrk2: Your scumpicks. Now.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 06:08:08 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 06:06:53 pm

Goddamn ninjas.

I really have to do my job more often >_>

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 06:09:27 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Akhier: Are you worried at all about revealing your info to us?

   It was not so much revealing as more of a repeat what
others said about me and then put a plug for my vote list.
I find you suspicious in a non-directional way. It is my
default stance and the fact that you are backup instead
of main means that its more of a lets see who dies
tonight then I will decide type of thing.

   Gah ninjas while I type :'(

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - Tyberix
February 06, 2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951839#msg1951839)   
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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SaintDraze - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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TolyK - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Tyberix - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Supercharazad - 6 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, Chewie, TolyK, Zrk2, and Darvi
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
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February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Zrk2 - 0
February 07, 2011
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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 06:11:48 pm

Didn't Argembarger say those things mess up his LurkerTracker?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 06:12:40 pm

   It was because I had names in colors that where not
in quotes. because I stuck it in quotes its fine.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 06:26:33 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 06:05:23 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 05:36:04 pm

'Stache: Why do you  think that people accuse you of being evil?

Don't listen to that devil 'stache! it will whisper the stuff of insanity in your ear! :O

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Quote

SaintDraze: If you were to be the subject fo a bandwagon, how would you pull yourself out?

Well I would answer all the questions asked of me to the very best of my own ability and subtly shift blame to Darvi's 'Stache or toaster of course...


toaster eats the souls of kittens

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 06:27:40 pm

WOW! I totally messed up the quotes! haha XD

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 07, 2011, 09:05:22 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Akhier: Are you worried at all about revealing your info to us?

Lordnincompoop, for saying that he shouldn't be revealing info when it is in the town's interest. I said my other scumpick last page. He still stands.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 11:51:06 pm

Please note that I keep my comp logged in during the night...

Quote from: Darvi on February 07, 2011, 06:05:23 pm

Tolyk: Who would you definitely not try to lynch? Aside from yourself, that is.

it's first round and hard to tell so far...
probably whoever is lowest on my list, maybe zrk2 if he keeps up posting with no mess-ups...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 08, 2011, 02:02:55 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 05:28:40 pm

Everyone If you could reveal scum with your death,would you do that?

Wait,you mean posting the scums name after being nightkilled? If that was allowed, scumhunting would be kinda pointless, since the scum would be auto-detected after 2 days.

But a cop who's going to be lynched should reveal his results (if there are any) before his lynch.

And I would sacrifice myself right now, if a random scum would be revealed afterwards, but there's no way in the game mechanics for this.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

chewie: Why is the scumhunt not continuing?

Because I was asleep. And now I g2g to school. Cya later guys

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: IronyOwl on February 08, 2011, 02:34:11 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 02:19:50 pm

Also IronyOwl, how are we doing so far? Scumhunt tips?

GAH. SO. MANY. POSTS.

This is a good thing, mind you; most BMs suffer HEAVILY from lurking, and thus accomplish nothing. Most of what we've got here isn't exactly hyper-condensed scumhunting, but it's still pretty good for a beginner's game. Just takes a bit of work to get through.

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 07, 2011, 12:02:59 pm

I didn;t rage-quit, I'm still here, I want the town to suffer for lynching me.

This is utterly inimical to getting anything done. When you're on a team, and your sole job is to find the bad guys, you do not convince your team that you are a bad guy, then attempt to spite them for daring to believe such a thing.

You're both failing the town and disobeying a rule of mafia- play to win!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Time for my report:

Supercharazad:Useless town or very bad scum,defeatist who's not even trying to help,sorry but i really find no reason why we shouldn't lynch you today.If you're town don't let the scum get away with it !

Darvi:Many posts but most of them are plain defensive answers, no definite scumhunt,however last few post were beter.Also i think we have yet to see his clearly stated scumpicks. You need to get more agressive,if you want to get the scum!

lordnincompoop:Strangely unstable behaviour,jumping from one target to another but at least keeps pressure.I would also appreciate if you tell us who is your top scumpick as for now.

TolyK: I liked his logical reasoning at the beginning of the game,now strangely quiet. Made: Do you have interest in not being questioned TolyK?

Zrk2:Nothing to say really,too litte to say anything except lurkiness so :
-Who do you think is supercharazad scum partner ?
-Who's least probable scum in your opinion and why ?

SaintDraze-Now that's a issue,you say that you need to ask more questions to clear opinion on somebody,so why not ask ? Also to make things worse he's avoiding questions again...
 
chewie: Very good at answering :P Really i would love to see everyone reply like you.Need more concentrated question's but i don't think it's very important on D1.

Akhier: Here i'm in conflict, he's trying to scumhunt,he answer questions,but i still have doubts. I'm not sure if it's because he want to look like town or maybe it's natural to him but i feel his avoiding direct confrontation. What you have to hide ? Do you have any strategy in mind for D2 ?

Also i see my question was misunderstood : I was just asking about non-possible situation not breaking the rules ;p

IronyOwl When doctor protects somebody does the target now about it ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 05:32:48 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Darvi:Many posts but most of them are plain defensive answers, no definite scumhunt,however last few post were beter.Also i think we have yet to see his clearly stated scumpicks. You need to get more agressive,if you want to get the scum!

My scumpicks haven't changed, so I didn't bother to repost them.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 06:39:11 am

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 07, 2011, 09:05:22 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Akhier: Are you worried at all about revealing your info to us?

Lordnincompoop, for saying that he shouldn't be revealing info when it is in the town's interest. I said my other scumpick last page. He still stands.

I'm not saying that, though it could certainly be implied as such.
There can be a reason for worry though, because info revealed can also be used to the scum's advantage. An interesting little thing, in my opinion.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

lordnincompoop:Strangely unstable behaviour,jumping from one target to another but at least keeps pressure.I would also appreciate if you tell us who is your top scumpick as for now.

Supercharazard. Very scummy, mixed in with policy vote.

Otherwise I still have my eye on Zrk2, SaintDraze and TolyK. They lurk, and don't seem to take a verty active part in the discussion.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 08:15:17 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 06:39:11 am

Otherwise I still have my eye on ... TolyK. They lurk, and don't seem to take a verty active part in the discussion.

I'm sorry, I've just been busier than before.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

TolyK: I liked his logical reasoning at the beginning of the game,now strangely quiet. Made: Do you have interest in not being questioned TolyK?

Look above. Also: being questioned is fine. You're doing it now :P.
I haven't seen much to go on so far, and without concrete proof (read: corpse) I don't have much else to day. If something does happen I will jump right in.

Quote

IronyOwl When doctor protects somebody does the target now about it ?

AFAIK yes...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 08, 2011, 08:55:21 am

If the doctor targets someone, they only know about it if they would have died otherwise.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 08, 2011, 12:00:22 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 06:06:53 pm

Who is supercharazard's partner? I'd like everyone to answer there questions too, where applicable.

(I took out non-applicable or already answered questions out) Although I kinda answered this to tyberix I'm doing an exact reread of the supercharazad-conflict and give it another go. Focus on the guys that voted him later like I did since they're most probably to be scum (because bussing is easier if your scumpartner is already to be lynched).

About TolyK:
He wrote

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

waiting until something productive starts happening...

and he wrote TEN minutes later:

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:11:10 am

supercharazard for being overly defensive

Please note that between the two posts nothing really interesting about supercharazad (well, beside two FoSes) happened. Yet he suddenly decided to vote Super. Why that, Tolyk? Let me remind you that he was one of the guys who voted super early. But what if super is town? That would make him more suspicous. He also changed his vote to Zrk2, but that was ok IMO because it served the prodding purpose.

Well to be honest, I just realised I was the first guy after the first lurkertracker to FoS super, but that was because Darvi asked me about my opinion about him. Gave him the oportunitiy to answer some questions. He did not very well when he did it. So I voted him later in this post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955963#msg1955963), where akhier gave me quite a good answer to a question I asked him (in the same post, where he voted super). So Super was the obvious next target.

But anyway a few posts after my FoS to Super, Saintdraze also voted him. Then, ~12 hours later, unvoted, and revoted him shortly after. Don't know what I should think about that votejumping there.

Akhier the dragon hearted did a FoS on him here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954251#msg1954251). (Note: before I did). He didn't really explain it though and voted him later because

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 02:56:32 am

the Supercharazad bandwagon looks to much fun
for me to resist anymore.

Enough info, now questions!

TolyK and everyone who's voting supercharazad: Do you think Super should be lynched because he is

• a useles townie or
• scum?

My own opinion: The first one. But since he's not of much use (and doesn't try to be), it's ok to lynch him. The NK will show more information to work with. But anyway we should watch Zrk2 (for the lurking, of course).

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:02:01 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Time for my report:

Supercharazad:Useless town or very bad scum,defeatist who's not even trying to help,sorry but i really find no reason why we shouldn't lynch you today.If you're town don't let the scum get away with it !

Why should I bother trying? I'm going to by lynched no matter what, I'm not trying to help because nobody will believe me.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 08, 2011, 12:03:21 pm

Forgot to mention: That was probably my last post befor the day ends. Maybe there'll be another one in >5 hours but probably not (because you know it'll be night here). I'm eager to know the result of our first day and night and hope every townie is going to survive. :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:04:26 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:02:01 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Time for my report:

Supercharazad:Useless town or very bad scum,defeatist who's not even trying to help,sorry but i really find no reason why we shouldn't lynch you today.If you're town don't let the scum get away with it !

I'm not trying to help because nobody will believe me.

Why do you think so? We'll believe in you, if you'd actually bother to come up with some arguments.

I know I listen to what you say. It's just that all you've said is "I give up" so far.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:06:30 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:04:26 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:02:01 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Time for my report:

Supercharazad:Useless town or very bad scum,defeatist who's not even trying to help,sorry but i really find no reason why we shouldn't lynch you today.If you're town don't let the scum get away with it !

I'm not trying to help because nobody will believe me.

Why do you think so? We'll believe in you, if you'd actually bother to come up with some arguments.

I know I listen to what you say. It's just that all you've said is "I give up" so far.

Well, the last time I did something, like prodding you, ended with me basically being decided upon as "scum or useless"

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:08:58 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:06:30 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:04:26 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:02:01 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Time for my report:

Supercharazad:Useless town or very bad scum,defeatist who's not even trying to help,sorry but i really find no reason why we shouldn't lynch you today.If you're town don't let the scum get away with it !

I'm not trying to help because nobody will believe me.

Why do you think so? We'll believe in you, if you'd actually bother to come up with some arguments.

I know I listen to what you say. It's just that all you've said is "I give up" so far.

Well, the last time I did something, like prodding you, ended with me basically being decided upon as "scum or useless"

Okay, can you give me the post?

Also, you've been rather provocative. What you've done so far is OMGUSing and WIFOMing, basically. You need to elaborate to push through with a lynch.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:16:02 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:08:58 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:06:30 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:04:26 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:02:01 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Time for my report:

Supercharazad:Useless town or very bad scum,defeatist who's not even trying to help,sorry but i really find no reason why we shouldn't lynch you today.If you're town don't let the scum get away with it !

I'm not trying to help because nobody will believe me.

Why do you think so? We'll believe in you, if you'd actually bother to come up with some arguments.

I know I listen to what you say. It's just that all you've said is "I give up" so far.

Well, the last time I did something, like prodding you, ended with me basically being decided upon as "scum or useless"

Okay, can you give me the post?

Also, you've been rather provocative. What you've done so far is OMGUSing and WIFOMing, basically. You need to elaborate to push through with a lynch.

I OMGUSed? When?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 12:28:34 pm

Simple advice Supercharazad :stop dwelling in your past answers,you won't change them. Just start asking new questions, believe me it's better way to prove you're not scum. Example : Who's your top scumpick ? I think the game goes on for long enough to at least have some suspects. Why your behavior isn't  scummy,or maybe why it is ? What would you do as a cop ? How do you think scum would try to convince us we shouldn't vote him if he was on your place ? What's your shoe size ? Answer at least one,you really don't tried to move the situation since you got first votes !

Quote from: chewie on February 08, 2011, 12:03:21 pm

Forgot to mention: That was probably my last post befor the day ends. Maybe there'll be another one in >5 hours but probably not (because you know it'll be night here). I'm eager to know the result of our first day and night and hope every townie is going to survive. :P

Well with the NK it's probably impossible ;p

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Ottofar on February 08, 2011, 12:34:59 pm

I remember a game where not only the doc protected correctly, but was roleblocked.

This happened two nights in a row.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:35:58 pm

I've answered a few of those, and I, and everyone else, knows that I'm going to be lynched.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:45:56 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:35:58 pm

I've answered a few of those, and I, and everyone else, knows that I'm going to be lynched.

Not if you get around to making some points to defend yourself.

Stop being so defeatist. Jeez.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 12:54:32 pm

first off EXTEND to give Zrk2 time to post. I want his brains ideas.

Quote from: chewie on February 08, 2011, 12:00:22 pm

About TolyK:
He wrote

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

waiting until something productive starts happening...

and he wrote TEN minutes later:

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:11:10 am

supercharazard for being overly defensive

Please note that between the two posts nothing really interesting about supercharazad (well, beside two FoSes) happened. Yet he suddenly decided to vote Super. Why that, Tolyk?

I looked over the thread. also I took into consideration what people said about stuff happening, I noticed details I hadn't noticed before.

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Let me remind you that he was one of the guys who voted super early. But what if super is town? That would make him more suspicous. He also changed his vote to Zrk2, but that was ok IMO because it served the prodding purpose.

Yeah, I'm still prodding due to lack of info from his side. Also extension.

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Well to be honest, I just realised I was the first guy after the first lurkertracker to FoS super, but that was because Darvi asked me about my opinion about him. Gave him the oportunitiy to answer some questions. He did not very well when he did it. So I voted him later in *URL*, where akhier gave me quite a good answer to a question I asked him (in the same post, where he voted super). So Super was the obvious next target.

Agreed.

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But anyway a few posts after my FoS to Super, Saintdraze also voted him. Then, ~12 hours later, unvoted, and revoted him shortly after. Don't know what I should think about that votejumping there.

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Akhier the dragon hearted did a FoS on him (here). (Note: before I did). He didn't really explain it though and voted him later because

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 02:56:32 am

the Supercharazad bandwagon looks to much fun
for me to resist anymore.

oh, that explains a bit...

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Enough info, now questions!

TolyK and everyone who's voting supercharazad: Do you think Super should be lynched because he is

• a useles townie or
• scum?

He seems more useless/newbie town. I doubt scum would break like that without a fight.

Also: note that he's very unlikely to be targeted this night by mafia btw due to this.

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My own opinion: The first one. But since he's not of much use (and doesn't try to be), it's ok to lynch him. The NK will show more information to work with. But anyway we should watch Zrk2 (for the lurking, of course).

Yes.

Please extend all so we get more time for decisions.

(Kinda off-topic: This is much better than the last BM)

**NINJAS!**
To Super:
Just please,

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 12:45:56 pm

... get around to making some points to defend yourself.
Stop being so defeatist. Jeez.

To others: extension to allow time for zrk2 and super to defend themselves/provide more info.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 12:56:11 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 12:54:32 pm

first off EXTEND to give Zrk2 time to post. I want his brains ideas.

hope you realize that's a joke...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: chewie on February 08, 2011, 01:33:51 pm

This will lead to more work, but well Mafia is hardballs, isn't it? And I'm sure it will help town, so why not? EXTEND

This is my last post for at least 12 hours.Seriously this time May be watching the forum again in a few hours but I'll be way too tired to post something (due to rl stuff).

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 03:29:14 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Zrk2:Nothing to say really,too litte to say anything except lurkiness so :
-Who do you think is supercharazad scum partner ?
-Who's least probable scum in your opinion and why ?

I think his scumpartner is Nincompoopy for trying to discourage questioning (discussed in my last post). The most probable townie is Chewey for his massive number of posts, I can't see anyone in a BM atcive-lurking that much and not screwing it up.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 03:33:31 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 03:29:14 pm

I think his scumpartner is Nincompoopy for trying to discourage questioning (discussed in my last post). The most probable townie is Chewey for his massive number of posts, I can't see anyone in a BM atcive-lurking that much and not screwing it up.

chewie has indeed been posting quite a bit lately, but that could mean he's very dangerous scum too...
do you want to extend? there's already 2 votes for it.

Argembarger, votecount please?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 03:36:30 pm

I clarified that for you earlier. I don't like it when people put words in my mouth, Zrk2.

I think you'll find that that notion is difficult to maintain, anyways. I myself have been active since this thing began, ad I've pushed for discussion and questioning. Go on, check.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 03:42:25 pm

In my opinion extend isn't necessary,we probably won't get much further today anyway,we need info from lynch/NK .  :-\

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 03:29:14 pm

[...] I can't see anyone in a BM atcive-lurking that much and not screwing it up.

I'm not sure i understand this part correctly, could you elaborate ?



 

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 03:47:30 pm

Active Lurking: Posting without contributing anything. Mafias will use it so they can't be accused of lurking.

Chewey has posted very much, but he hasn't contradicted himself. I doubt any new player could successfully pull that off, meaning I believe he is townie.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 03:48:56 pm

   I think if we can get Supercharazad to start defending
and explaining himself properly we should extend but
without that it is not worth it.

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - Tyberix
February 06, 2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951839#msg1951839)   
February 06, 2011
Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)   Supercharazad->06:09:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954251#msg1954251)
February 07, 2011
Unvoted->Supercharazad->02:56:32 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955328#msg1955328)

SaintDraze - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Darvi->02:01:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952452#msg1952452)   Unvoted->Darvi->04:37:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952703#msg1952703)   lordnincompoop->04:55:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952729#msg1952729)   lordnincompoop->05:22:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952782#msg1952782)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->04:53:06pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954042#msg1954042)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:35:34am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955718#msg1955718)   Supercharazad->Darvi->8:45:16am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955733#msg1955733)   lordnincompoop->09:25:22am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955802#msg1955802)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->Tyberix->chewie->03:27:59am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952589#msg1952589)   Unvoted->SaintDraze->04:20:09am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952670#msg1952670)   Supercharazad->11:00:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953195#msg1953195)   Supercharazad->12:26:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953354#msg1953354)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazard->10:59:54am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955945#msg1955945)

TolyK - 0
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->04:27:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952684#msg1952684)   Unvoted->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:48:52am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952718#msg1952718)   Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->05:12:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952757#msg1952757)   Supercharazad->11:11:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953212#msg1953212)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:32:44am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955712#msg1955712)   Supercharazard->11:58:47am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956065#msg1956065)   Zrk2->02:24:29 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956399#msg1956399)

Tyberix - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->lordnincompoop->04:51:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952724#msg1952724)   Supercharazad->10:59:39am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953193#msg1953193)   TolyK->11:01:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953199#msg1953199)   Supercharazad->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Zrk2->05:36:34pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954160#msg1954160)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazad->08:49:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955738#msg1955738)   Zrk2->11:15:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955971#msg1955971)   SaintDraze->12:23:21pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956129#msg1956129)   Darvi->04:35:47pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956718#msg1956718)

Supercharazad - 6 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, Chewie, TolyK, Zrk2, and Darvi
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->05:59:06am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952830#msg1952830)   lordnincompoop->08:58:08am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952985#msg1952985)   Darvi->10:49:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953179#msg1953179)   Darvi->12:14:51pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953330#msg1953330)   Darvi->03:41:56pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953829#msg1953829)
February 07, 2011
Darvi->02:47:53am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955310#msg1955310)

Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
Zrk2->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Supercharazad->10:16:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953114#msg1953114)   TolyK->11:02:56am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953202#msg1953202)   Supercharazad->03:46:07pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953839#msg1953839)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->03:49:04pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953849#msg1953849)

chewie - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->3:50:18pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953854#msg1953854)   Supercharazad->04:50:32pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954037#msg1954037)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->supercharazad->11:10:23am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955963#msg1955963)   Zrk2->12:45:20pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956175#msg1956175)

Zrk2 - 0
February 07, 2011
Supercharazad->05:59:55pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956947#msg1956947)   lordnincompoop->09:05:22pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1957456#msg1957456)
February 08, 2011
lordnincompoop->03:29:14pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1959213#msg1959213)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 03:57:14 pm

   To clarify if we can get Supercharazad to start answering
and defending before the extension. If we just do it he could
end up defending himself as he already has and we would be
wasting time.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 03:59:01 pm

How much time is left?
super get out here.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:00:47 pm

   Day Ends: Tuesday, February 8 @ 10:00 PM EST

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:04:52 pm

So 5 hours. Great, I'll be sleeping soon, I don't want to miss the last-minute action!  :(

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:10:22 pm

   It could end up being non-action. This all depends
on what Supercharazad does. The real action would
happen tomorrow anyway because if stuff starts
happening then we would probably extend the time.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 04:12:33 pm

err maybe super is just away now... cmon folks I don't want to miss action either.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 04:16:14 pm

Bluh, Internet was unresponsive 'til now. Have to read what you guys said -_-

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:17:48 pm

   The problem is he believes he is doomed and that we
all know it is so. As of his last post he basicly said that
he would not answer our questions because he has already
done so.

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 08, 2011, 12:35:58 pm

I've answered a few of those, and I, and everyone else, knows that I'm going to be lynched.

   This was about 2 and a half hours ago. It is very
likely that he will not answer our questions and that
he will be lynched no matter what we try to tell him
otherwise because he is not making the effort needed
to show himself innocent.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:18:39 pm

   correction my math is bad it was about 3 and a half
hours ago.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 04:22:58 pm

So ya. Apart from talk about super and extensions there's not much going on I see.

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 03:29:14 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 02:49:28 am

Zrk2:Nothing to say really,too litte to say anything except lurkiness so :
-Who do you think is supercharazad scum partner ?
-Who's least probable scum in your opinion and why ?

I think his scumpartner is Nincompoopy for trying to discourage questioning (discussed in my last post). The most probable townie is Chewey for his massive number of posts, I can't see anyone in a BM atcive-lurking that much and not screwing it up.

Bah, I can't find that post. Anyone link please?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:32:55 pm

The post:

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 07, 2011, 09:05:22 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 07, 2011, 05:57:53 pm

Akhier: Are you worried at all about revealing your info to us?

Lordnincompoop, for saying that he shouldn't be revealing info when it is in the town's interest. I said my other scumpick last page. He still stands.

My reply:

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 06:39:11 am

I'm not saying that, though it could certainly be implied as such.
There can be a reason for worry though, because info revealed can also be used to the scum's advantage. An interesting little thing, in my opinion.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 04:38:03 pm

Thanks.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:38:37 pm

   Anyway it was a fair question seeing as I did "reveal"
unnecessary info about myself. The secret is that I did
not actually reveal anything. Everything I posted about
myself was something that someone else said and a plug
for my awesome up to date voting records! Now with
links to each of the posts that vote came from!

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - Tyberix
February 06, 2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951839#msg1951839)   
February 06, 2011
Unvoted->SaintDraze->02:09:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952466#msg1952466)   lordnincompoop->04:40:49am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952710#msg1952710)   Unvoted->lordnincompoop->05:16:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952770#msg1952770)   Supercharazad->06:09:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954251#msg1954251)
February 07, 2011
Unvoted->Supercharazad->02:56:32 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955328#msg1955328)

SaintDraze - 0
February 06, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Darvi->02:01:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952452#msg1952452)   Unvoted->Darvi->04:37:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952703#msg1952703)   lordnincompoop->04:55:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952729#msg1952729)   lordnincompoop->05:22:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952782#msg1952782)   Unvoted->Supercharazad->04:53:06pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954042#msg1954042)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:35:34am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955718#msg1955718)   Supercharazad->Darvi->8:45:16am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955733#msg1955733)   lordnincompoop->09:25:22am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955802#msg1955802)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->Tyberix->chewie->03:27:59am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952589#msg1952589)   Unvoted->SaintDraze->04:20:09am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952670#msg1952670)   Supercharazad->11:00:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953195#msg1953195)   Supercharazad->12:26:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953354#msg1953354)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazard->10:59:54am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955945#msg1955945)

TolyK - 0
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->04:27:31am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952684#msg1952684)   Unvoted->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:48:52am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952718#msg1952718)   Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->05:12:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952757#msg1952757)   Supercharazad->11:11:10am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953212#msg1953212)
February 07, 2011
Unvote->08:32:44am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955712#msg1955712)   Supercharazard->11:58:47am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956065#msg1956065)   Zrk2->02:24:29 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956399#msg1956399)

Tyberix - 0
February 06, 2011
SaintDraze->lordnincompoop->04:51:29am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952724#msg1952724)   Supercharazad->10:59:39am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953193#msg1953193)   TolyK->11:01:37am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953199#msg1953199)   Supercharazad->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->Zrk2->05:36:34pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1954160#msg1954160)
February 07, 2011
Supercharazad->08:49:02am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955738#msg1955738)   Zrk2->11:15:35am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955971#msg1955971)   SaintDraze->12:23:21pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956129#msg1956129)   Darvi->04:35:47pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1956718#msg1956718)

Supercharazad - 6 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, Chewie, TolyK, Zrk2, and Darvi
February 06, 2011
lordnincompoop->05:59:06am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952830#msg1952830)   lordnincompoop->08:58:08am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1952985#msg1952985)   Darvi->10:49:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953179#msg1953179)   Darvi->12:14:51pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953330#msg1953330)   Darvi->03:41:56pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1953829#msg1953829)
February 07, 2011
Darvi->02:47:53am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1955310#msg1955310)

Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
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chewie - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Zrk2 - 0
February 07, 2011
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February 08, 2011
lordnincompoop->03:29:14pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1959213#msg1959213)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 04:39:05 pm

However, more information is always useful to the town. It is a calculated risk, but it is definitely worth revealing.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

That's true.

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.

TolyK: Examine yourself. How can you be considered scum?
Zrk2: How are you finding this game so far?
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?
Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things? How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:55:36 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?

   I reposted for the same reason I used the exclamation
point to end the sentences. I was actively advertising my
vote records and the last one was on another page.
   For the cop thing I already told Tyberix he would
be the first one and heres the quote for why:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 07, 2011, 05:38:47 pm

   As a cop I would first inspect you actually because
you are good at scum hunting and I want to be able to
trust you or know that I need to work against you so
I could head off your excellent fake scum hunting.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 05:01:30 pm

Wait

Who's here right now?

Hmm.

Tyberix: Why so silent? I haven't seen you taking an active part in discussion recently, little invisible man.
chewie: What are your plans for the game?

I'll go make questions for the rest tomorrow.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 05:06:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things?

It would make things easier for town since I wouldn't distract them with my insane ramblings. :P

Quote

How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

Ahhh... lessee.

The following is assuming that they're not scum.
Akhier: no updates to his voteboard thing he has going on. Some of you seem to find that actually helpful, so his death might be a bad thing.
nincompoop&tyberix:you ask a lot of questions. More than I could ever come up with certainly. Certainly not a bad thing.
Tolyk: well, he had this "what if X and Y were scum" table in the previous BM. And the two of us came to the totally wrong conclusions xP Dunno. More helpful than some I guess.
chewie&Zrk2:  really no idea. they were kinda passive for a while, and I dunno how I should interpret their actions during the rest of the day.
Super: don't need to say anything there, now do I?

Did I forget anybody?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 05:24:57 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 05:06:56 pm

...
Did I forget anybody?

SaintDraze ?

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 05:01:30 pm

...
Tyberix: Why so silent? I haven't seen you taking an active part in discussion recently, little invisible man.
...

Well i got distracted by pizza,sorry. Also i think we get to the point where lynch is almost certain,so i thought i could slack a little, i know it's scummy ;p

To redeem myself :

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 04:38:37 pm

   Anyway it was a fair question seeing as I did "reveal"
unnecessary info about myself. The secret is that I did
not actually reveal anything. Everything I posted about
myself was something that someone else said and a plug
for my awesome up to date voting records! Now with
links to each of the posts that vote came from!

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

Quote

Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - Tyberix
February 06, 2011
Darvi->09:17:52pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1951839#msg1951839)   
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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SaintDraze - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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lordnincompoop - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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TolyK - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Tyberix - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Supercharazad - 6 - Akhier the Dragon hearted, SaintDaze, lordnincompoop, Chewie, TolyK, Zrk2, and Darvi
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Darvi - 1 - Supercharazad
February 06, 2011
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chewie - 0
February 06, 2011
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February 07, 2011
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Zrk2 - 0
February 07, 2011
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February 08, 2011
lordnincompoop->03:29:14pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1959213#msg1959213)

So you admit that you do not want to reveal unnecessary information to us ?

Quote from: Darvi on February 08, 2011, 05:06:56 pm

...
The following is assuming that they're not scum.
...

This is very bad idea. If you make your suspect list based on that,i would consider pointing out that's nearly scummy fake scumhunt! And worst of all scum could be any one of us! He could be in this very room! He could be you! He could be me! (just don't shoot me in the head,please ;p)

Akhier: How would you deal with lylo situation ?
SaintDraze Any thoughts on your tomorrow tactics ?


 

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 05:38:20 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 05:24:57 pm

So you admit that you do not want to reveal unnecessary information to us ?

Akhier: How would you deal with lylo situation ?

   First thing is less of a matter of not wanting to and
more of a well they already said it. Plus this is confirming
what they said so in a way it is revealing, only revealing
what I think is the truth instead of revealing something
new that has never been said before.
   In a LYLO situation I would watch the others for any
slip ups like someone mentioning something not yet
mentioned yet acting like they have been conversing
about it because this could be an indication of scum
mixing up here and scumchat conversations. Any sign
of 2 people working together without talking to each
other is another thing. Also watching for any last minute
vote changes from the scum trying to sneak through
a lynch on a townie because if its a 3t to 2m they could
have split their vote and if the townies end up each
voting for someone different the scum would be able
to have a voting majority from the towns split up vote.
Other than that I would have to go back and read
over again what everyone has posted so far.
   That is what I think so if its wrong tell me because it
is my best guess at what to do.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 07:16:05 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

That's true.

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.

TolyK: Examine yourself. How can you be considered scum?
Zrk2: How are you finding this game so far?
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?
Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things? How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

It's moving very quickly, which is good for the town, but the sheer amount of posts makes it hard to investigate anything deeply, because in order to do that would mean falling behind and not being able to investigate each post. It provides more information, but there isn't enough time to fully investigate it all.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 07:18:42 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 07:16:05 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

That's true.

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.

TolyK: Examine yourself. How can you be considered scum?
Zrk2: How are you finding this game so far?
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?
Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things? How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

It's moving very quickly, which is good for the town, but the sheer amount of posts makes it hard to investigate anything deeply, because in order to do that would mean falling behind and not being able to investigate each post. It provides more information, but there isn't enough time to fully investigate it all.

Now you're implying we should limit discussion. :P

You don't have to fall behind. I take the time to look back sometimes, and new pages tend not to grow too fast.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 07:51:24 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 07:16:05 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

That's true.

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.

TolyK: Examine yourself. How can you be considered scum?
Zrk2: How are you finding this game so far?
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?
Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things? How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

It's moving very quickly, which is good for the town, but the sheer amount of posts makes it hard to investigate anything deeply, because in order to do that would mean falling behind and not being able to investigate each post. It provides more information, but there isn't enough time to fully investigate it all.

Well i think answering questions is easier than digging trough all the post so i got few for you zrk2:

Well basic logical inconsistencies are rather found in single posts so i find your argument kind of baseless and drop it on your lurkiness.Going on : Would you want us to post less ? Also could you tell me why you haven't asked a single question towards specific person ? Any thoughts or predictions about D2 ?

Also i just noticed i forgotten to unvote you before Akhier, since you answered most of my questions and get to scumhunt i can say you're getting enough info for town to not be prime suspect. Well one vote shouldn't bother you if you're town,so i leave it there to make you feel better ;p

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 08:20:35 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 08, 2011, 07:51:24 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 07:16:05 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

That's true.

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.

TolyK: Examine yourself. How can you be considered scum?
Zrk2: How are you finding this game so far?
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?
Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things? How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

It's moving very quickly, which is good for the town, but the sheer amount of posts makes it hard to investigate anything deeply, because in order to do that would mean falling behind and not being able to investigate each post. It provides more information, but there isn't enough time to fully investigate it all.

Well i think answering questions is easier than digging trough all the post so i got few for you zrk2:

Well basic logical inconsistencies are rather found in single posts so i find your argument kind of baseless and drop it on your lurkiness.Going on : Would you want us to post less ? Also could you tell me why you haven't asked a single question towards specific person ? Any thoughts or predictions about D2 ?

Also i just noticed i forgotten to unvote you before Akhier, since you answered most of my questions and get to scumhunt i can say you're getting enough info for town to not be prime suspect. Well one vote shouldn't bother you if you're town,so i leave it there to make you feel better ;p

Shit, I haven't. I've been trying to keep up with this thread, but it moves much faster than I'm used to.Ok, Nincompoop, outline your scumpicks and provide reasons.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 08:22:46 pm

I'd rather do that with a fresh mind, so

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 05:01:30 pm

tomorrow.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Zrk2 on February 08, 2011, 08:26:27 pm

Ok, but you better provide a detailed response to make up for your tardiness.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 09:59:56 pm

   For those about to die, We solute you! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUgmU_Hsjc)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 08, 2011, 10:17:56 pm

ACK! post overload!
I would love if everyone one would re-post any questions that they had for me...

about tactics for tommorow..
My bacon mind powers say that if super is scum then everyone one likely focus on the ones that weren't accused of being scum by him... If he is town then it could go the opposite way, even if he was just spasticly accusing those who were attacking him...
He is still going to get lynched...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 08, 2011, 10:21:34 pm

night all

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 08, 2011, 10:36:02 pm

...mod is not even on! XD

Last minute info anyone?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Drazes info(what little he does have)
Darvi's 'stache is obviously lurking,
 Toaster hasn't posted, Then again he doesn't need to since scum has scum chat
Scum also has role blocker if i am right, since before restart I was actually scum roleblocker(would have been fun)
irony owl hasn't really posted much
and I still like bacon

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 10:37:33 pm

   It was a 50% for a role to appear, just because you
where something does not mean it exists this time.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Toaster on February 08, 2011, 10:39:25 pm

I posted before the reset.


I believe I said something along the limits of "Prepare to be brainsimilated."

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 10:42:12 pm

   Hello you brave little Toaster you!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: SaintDraze on February 08, 2011, 10:46:40 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 08, 2011, 10:37:33 pm

   It was a 50% for a role to appear, just because you
where something does not mean it exists this time.

oh yah, thats right!
well that just leads me to wonder what the who the cop(if there is one) investigates(the people who no one can read... e.g nincompoop and Cyberix)
who the Docter(if there is one) protects (I guess that might be the the most experienced of all of us...)
And who should probably be role blocked...
(obviously darvi's 'stache...)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 11:12:53 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 08, 2011, 04:46:31 pm

That's true.

Also AkhierTDH why are you repostan? There's been no change.

TolyK: Examine yourself. How can you be considered scum?
Zrk2: How are you finding this game so far?
Akhier: If you were a cop, who would you examine?
Darvi: How do you think your own death would affect things? How would other people's deaths affect things (besides the obvious population drop)?

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 08, 2011, 10:46:40 pm

oh yah, thats right!
well that just leads me to wonder what the who the cop(if there is one) investigates(the people who no one can read... e.g nincompoop and Cyberix)
who the Docter(if there is one) protects (I guess that might be the the most experienced of all of us...)
And who should probably be role blocked...
(obviously darvi's 'stache...)

explain the above in bold.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: Argembarger on February 08, 2011, 11:31:51 pm

I'm really sorry guys, I was gone ALL DAY for class.

Seriously, ALL DAY

It was pretty terrible.

I'll look over the thread and compile the votes. I'm pretty sure there's enough votes for an extension, but I'm not entirely sure. I'll double check. If the day has ended, I will process it after posting the vote count.

Hold on a minute.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Now with Outer Space and Brainbugs! Day 1
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 11:33:00 pm

ok
wonder who...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Night 1: Supercharadead
Post by: Argembarger on February 09, 2011, 01:26:23 am

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//  |   Supercharazad (6) - Akhier, chewie, Darvi, nincompoop, Draze, Zrk2
//  |   Darvi (1) - Supercharazad
//  |   Akhier the Dragon hearted (1) - Tyberix
//  |   Zrk2 (1) - TolyK
//  |
//  |   Extend (2) - chewie, TolyK
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends: 3 hours ago lol
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

The representatives sat in their meeting room for hours upon hours, questioning each other, trying to figure out who could be possessed by the brain-creatures.

Nobody from outside of the room seemed to realize that something was wrong. This was good; no need to cause panic prematurely...

Just as everyone was getting too sleepy to continue, they made a choice: Supercharazad was likely to be possessed; he should be the first to go.

Zrk2 took the initiative, as everyone seemed hesitant to actually take a life. Zrk2 stood up and walked around the room as if he was stretching his legs.

As he walked behind Supercharazad, he spun around and started strangling Supercharazad with his bare hands. Super put up a struggle, but Zrk2 managed to crush his windpipe, and Supercharazad slumped over, dead.

Everyone gathered around Supercharazad, watching his ears and waiting for the telltale stream of ichor which accompanied the deaths of the brain creatures. Nothing happened. It appeared Supercharazad was not possessed.

Upon his death, the standard diagnostic microchip in his wrist displayed his basic information, including his profession. It appears he had no special skills.

You all return to your seats, and attempt to catch some fitful, restless sleep. It's going to be a long night...

because, erm, it's space, and night technically never ends I guess, um

Send in your night actions.

Night 1 ends Tomorrow at 10:00 PM, or sooner.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 09, 2011, 12:16:37 pm

Everyone woke up bleary-eyed and exhausted. Although everyone had been sleeping for around 10 hours, it felt as if nobody got any sleep at all.

The day began with a grisly sight: chewie's dead body slouched in his chair, his head askew in an awkward position, his eyes staring into the ceiling.

His lack of ear-ichor was proof that he was not possessed

His wrist chip revealed he had no special skills

The ratio of possessed to clean humans was then 2 to 5.

Perhaps this day would bring better results than the last.


//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 2
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   No votes
//  |
//  |   No votes for extension/shorten
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends: Friday, February 11 @ 10:00 PM
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 12:26:59 pm

ouch.
players list so far?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 09, 2011, 12:28:43 pm

I always keep the OP updated; feel free to check there in the future.

But,

Quote from: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 09:59:59 am

Players: (9/9)

• chewie, normal townie, murdered Night 1
• TolyK
• Darvi
• SaintDraze
• lordnincompoop
• Tyberix
• Zrk2
• Supercharazad, normal townie, lynched Day 1
• Akhier the Dragon hearted

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 12:30:47 pm

ah ok thanks

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:31:25 pm

Damn that was fast.

Nincompoop. why do you think they killed chewie?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 12:32:51 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:31:25 pm

Damn that was fast.

Nincompoop. why do you think they killed chewie?

I know it wasn't to me, but:
He was active and had almost no connections?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:36:05 pm

CHEWIE!!!! NOOOOOO DX!!!!
obviously since the mafia didn't choose to kill Tyberix or lordnincompoop, The most unreadable of us all (besides Darvi's 'Stache of course... But how can you lynch a 'Stache? absurd!)

I'l begin with LordNincompoop
Why do you think chewie was nightkilled?There must have been better targets, wouldn't you agree?
NINJA'D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:41:12 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 12:32:51 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:31:25 pm

Damn that was fast.

Nincompoop. why do you think they killed chewie?

I know it wasn't to me, but:
He was active and had almost no connections?

Ah then why wouldn't they go for Tyberix?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 12:42:28 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:36:05 pm

I'l begin with LordNincompoop
Why do you think chewie was nightkilled?There must have been better targets, wouldn't you agree?

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:31:25 pm

Nincompoop. why do you think they killed chewie?

I don't know why they killed chewie. Because he was a good town I guess? The problem with pondering NKs is that such lines of thought end up as WIFOMs and other circular logic, and rarely help town. Perhaps the suspected that we'd think so, and killed chewie to be unpredictable. Or perhaps they suspected that too, and killed the best performing town. Or  perhaps, or perhaps. You can see where I'm going with this.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:44:27 pm

Damn you nincompoop. Wanted to answer draze's question and then you ninja me :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:44:53 pm

The question about Tyberix, I mean.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 12:47:48 pm

Well most stuff about NKs can be answered by what I wrote. Zrk2, I'm typing your response up now. Sorry it won't have as much insight as you'd like though, I'm kinda confused right now.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 12:50:26 pm

   Well if anything we now have a better chance of
randomly lynching slime. After all we go from 2 out
of 9 being right to 2 out of 7 being right. That is better
then the chances on your average multiple choice
question.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 12:51:06 pm

1/3 for each person  ;D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 12:55:18 pm

   yes from a first person perspective but that is only if
you take yourself out of the equation and I know I
wont be taking you out so you probably wont take me
out so not a third which would be 2 to 6. From the point
of view of who you vote for though a townie will have a
third of a chance of being right.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:57:35 pm

okay then I pick.... C.Darvi and his 'Stache Lordnincompoop and Tyberix...
both of you were scumhunting great...
Lordnincompoop&Tyberix:How many times have you questioned each other?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:00:55 pm

posts please?
also feel free to question me.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:06:33 pm

   If Draze had not I would have actually. If you are good
at scum hunting what is to stop that from being good at
fake scum hunting. Once you are in the clear though you
would be someone to trust to properly hunt out the scum.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 01:09:07 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

Precisely! You should have been nightkilled. You were playing much better then chewie... Or atleast thats what I thought...You are right that starting this line of questioning over a nightkill will just lead to WIFoMing, So I am just going to keep my eye on you... until you slip up...Or find the real scum...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:20:37 pm

   Huh, we both where going to go at lordnincompoop
for different reasons.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

Any other scumpicks?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:32:17 pm

   Zrk2: Are you going to be posting more or is life still
happening for you?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:39:21 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

I was going to answer this, but in the end it was all WIFOM.
 
  Urgh, damn you toaster. I bet you planned this, right?

Hey, can we lynch toaster to? :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:40:31 pm

he looses when mafia does IIRC

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:40:52 pm

he's the bugs I guess :

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:43:36 pm

   You know we are just the ability to turn into any animal
we have touched from being an Animorphs knockoff. Lets
kill us some Yeerks and get it over with then!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 01:45:30 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

Any other scumpicks?

Well defending him just earned you a spot on my scum list...
not a big spot mind you, since you are probably right...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:46:34 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 01:45:30 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

Any other scumpicks?

Well defending him just earned you a spot on my scum list...
not a big spot mind you, since you are probably right...

???
oookay...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 01:49:15 pm

Woah,i didn't expected chewie's death, he really wasn't aggressive on anyone yesterday.. Well,as for Suprecharazad - he really was passive town then. :\

Sorry for being invisible i'll try to change this.

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

Any other scumpicks?

Staged? Could you explain a bit ?


Also,really looking for logic in NK selection is useless, we won't know it for sure, and if we assume wrong, well that's bad at least ;p
I'm starting to read D1 over i'll post after that.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:52:02 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 01:49:15 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

Any other scumpicks?

Staged? Could you explain a bit ?

He probably means that they didn't kill the better players (I.E. you or nincompooop) to make them look scummy. Of course, you might be scum anyway, but maybe you would've counted on us seeing through the bluff, making you seem innocent. And back in circles it goes. WIFOM.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:53:31 pm

• Darvi - Scumpicks.
• SaintDraze - What other explanation do you have? (other than: him being no-that-great scum; being framed)
• lordnincompoop - Scumpicks. Try to explain the situation.
• Tyberix - Scumpicks. Also why is the logic useless?
• Zrk2 - Scumpicks. Info. Start asking questions (when you have time)
• Akhier - Any other ideas?

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 01:49:15 pm

Staged? Could you explain a bit ?

As in, framing him. making him look scummy.
... NINJAS! ...

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:52:02 pm

He probably means that they didn't kill the better players (I.E. you or nincompooop) to make them look scummy. Of course, you might be scum anyway, but maybe you would've counted on us seeing through the bluff, making you seem innocent. And back in circles it goes. WIFOM.

there's that, but there's a limit to metacognition ;)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Ottofar on February 09, 2011, 01:54:16 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:39:21 pm

Hey, can we lynch toaster to? :P

No.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Toaster on February 09, 2011, 01:57:59 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:39:21 pm

  Urgh, damn you toaster. I bet you planned this, right?

I had a part in everything
Twice I destroyed the light and twice I failed
I left ruin behind me when I returned
But I also carried ruin with me

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:59:15 pm

Hmm, considering how fast this got updated, I lowered my suspicions about Zrk2 and chewie a bit (I mean, usually a night phase takes a couple of days. The short amount of time would indicate a non-lurker). Of course, seeing as chewie got killed I was right about him.

In hindsight, maybe they already  decided who to nightkill beforehand, so a lurker might still be scum.

Bleh. Need to think about this some more.

Quote from: Ottofar on February 09, 2011, 01:54:16 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:39:21 pm

Hey, can we lynch toaster to? :P

No.Spoilsport.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 02:01:24 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:59:15 pm

Hmm, considering how fast this got updated, I lowered my suspicions about Zrk2 and chewie a bit (I mean, usually a night phase takes a couple of days. The short amount of time would indicate a non-lurker). Of course, seeing as chewie got killed I was right about him.

In hindsight, maybe they already  decided who to nightkill beforehand, so a lurker might still be scum.

Bleh. Need to think about this some more.

You just set yourself up: you're everywhere!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 02:04:22 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:53:31 pm

• Akhier - Any other ideas?

   I think that we need to think up how killing chewie
would implicate ourselves as scum. If we figure out
who has the least reason to kill him that is probably
the person who did it. Either that or lord and Tyberix
are the scum so the best remaining was chewie.

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 01:59:15 pm

Hmm, considering how fast this got updated, I lowered my suspicions about Zrk2 and chewie a bit (I mean, usually a night phase takes a couple of days. The short amount of time would indicate a non-lurker). Of course, seeing as chewie got killed I was right about him.

In hindsight, maybe they already  decided who to nightkill beforehand, so a lurker might still be scum.

   It could have been that all the time they where not
here they where on scumchat.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 02:06:55 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 02:04:22 pm

   It could have been that all the time they where not
here they where on scumchat.

Maybe, but if I were online then I wouldn't want to waste time not spamming.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:19:51 pm

Toaster Is a Baby sand worm from Dune?

My explanation is flawless:
I Leik bacon
I have none...
I am however surprised that no one accused me of being scum since I was still on alittle after the night began...
So I am going to bring it up before someone else brings it up..
My rashness however would have made me a likely candidate for scum...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 02:21:32 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:19:51 pm

Toaster Is a Baby sand worm from Dune?

My explanation is flawless:
I Leik bacon
I have none...
I am however surprised that no one accused me of being scum since I was still on alittle after the night began...
So I am going to bring it up before someone else brings it up..
My rashness however would have made me a likely candidate for scum...

???
Well better luck next time ;)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 02:22:47 pm

I mean looking for logic behind the NK, not logic overall - they could as well pick someone at random to confuse us and make us look for reason. In my opinion only sure information about NK is that chewie was town and is dead. The rest are just assumptions and i don't like to go too far in these, scum got simple short term reasons most the time ,not complicated gambits ;p

TolyK Do you think chewie's death would hinder scumhunt? Also how do you think scum will play this from now on ?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 02:04:22 pm

...
   I think that we need to think up how killing chewie
would implicate ourselves as scum.
...

So who do you think chewie's death was meant to show as scummy ?

lordincompoop Do you have any thoughts why you weren't killed ? (I was betting on your death yesterday)

FakeEdit:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:19:51 pm

Toaster Is a Baby sand worm from Dune?

My explanation is flawless:
I Leik bacon
I have none...
I am however surprised that no one accused me of being scum since I was still on alittle after the night began...
So I am going to bring it up before someone else brings it up..
My rashness however would have made me a likely candidate for scum...

Uhh, accusing yourself does not make you look less scummy ;p

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:39:03 pm

Its worth a shot though...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 02:39:35 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 02:22:47 pm

lordincompoop Do you have any thoughts why you weren't killed ? (I was betting on your death yesterday)

   I ask you the same question Tyberix. You where My
choice for most likely to die.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 02:40:35 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 02:22:47 pm

I mean looking for logic behind the NK, not logic overall - they could as well pick someone at random to confuse us and make us look for reason. In my opinion only sure information about NK is that chewie was town and is dead. The rest are just assumptions and i don't like to go too far in these, scum got simple short term reasons most the time ,not complicated gambits ;p

TolyK Do you think chewie's death would hinder scumhunt? Also how do you think scum will play this from now on ?

1. We're smart* and know of this trick, maybe a bit. (*Right?)
2. More straightforward, rolefishing and confusing logic.

Quote

FakeEdit:
Uhh, accusing yourself does not make you look less scummy ;p

oh wait wrong dude... I thought that was his last post... getting the "s" users mixed up

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:39:03 pm

Its worth a shot though...

uh...

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 02:39:35 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 02:22:47 pm

lordincompoop Do you have any thoughts why you weren't killed ? (I was betting on your death yesterday)

   I ask you the same question Tyberix. You where My
choice for most likely to die.

same here.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 02:41:05 pm

Quote

same here

I meant nincompoop

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 02:49:28 pm

Man, we sure do love our wine, don't we? :P

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 01:09:07 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

Precisely! You should have been nightkilled. You were playing much better then chewie... Or atleast thats what I thought...You are right that starting this line of questioning over a nightkill will just lead to WIFoMing, So I am just going to keep my eye on you... until you slip up...Or find the real scum...

I could use the same kind of logic of any one of you. As I said, NK speculation will not get us anywhere, SaintDraze.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:06:33 pm

If you are good at scum hunting what is to stop that from being good at fake scum hunting.

Ah yes, but how would you know the difference?

Also, I'm going to FOS Akhier for blatantly trying to vote out good scumhunters. That is not how you play the game; you watch people make slip-ups, then move in on that. No, this is not an OMGUS.

Zrk2, you have my scumpicks. I'm calling them out because, well, it should be obvious enough.

Next on the list is you and Tyberix, because you both haven't posted much. You come, make some comments and become invisible again. Smells like scum.

TolyK: As for the situation, right now I'm just seeing it as masses and masses of WIFOM, not enough proper scumhunting. I'm afraid we might waste a large portion of the game to this, which would be very bad indeed for the town.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 02:22:47 pm

lordincompoop Do you have any thoughts why you weren't killed ? (I was betting on your death yesterday)

This will lead into more WIFOM, so I'm not even going to go there. The scum did it for their own reasons, and doing anything like this will just end badly for the town.

I'm going to be suspicious of anyone that has WIFOMed today, because it's a very prominent scum tactic to confuse the town.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 02:55:39 pm

Ugh. Any discussion here seems to fall back to WIFOM. The nightkill really didn't help us.
Does anybody know how to counter act such a WIFOM cycle?

So far my scumpicks are Tyberix, Zrk2, and Draze for being kind of lurky.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 02:56:46 pm

The best way to counteract NK-related WIFOM is to simply not talk about it. NKs are usually bad sources of info anyways.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 02:57:49 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 02:49:28 pm

Man, we sure do love our wine, don't we? :P

TolyK: As for the situation, right now I'm just seeing it as masses and masses of WIFOM, not enough proper scumhunting. I'm afraid we might waste a large portion of the game to this, which would be very bad indeed for the town.

well I'm not used to this sort of situation, what do you suggest we do?

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 02:55:39 pm

Ugh. Any discussion here seems to fall back to WIFOM. The nightkill really didn't help us.
Does anybody know how to counter act such a WIFOM cycle?

my question exactly.
ironyowl come here please!
**NINJAS!**

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 02:56:46 pm

The best way to counteract NK-related WIFOM is to simply not talk about it. NKs are usually bad sources of info anyways.

Or that.
But what do we do now? Same stuff as day 1?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 02:59:15 pm

Yeah pretty much.

We've had more time to poke, prod and grope each other though, so it should be fun.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:00:12 pm

   Okay everybody, Starting now it is officially square one!
Everything you thought happened is now null and void so
there never was chewie or super. This is the only way out
of WIFOM death spiral.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 03:04:56 pm

Wupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwup_wupwupwup~
wine is done...
Nincompoop drank it all...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 03:05:09 pm

Wrong. Day one still existed, and we can still gather intel from what we said back then. Of course, claiming otherwise is pretty scummy, akhier.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 03:04:56 pm

Wupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwup_wupwupwup~
wine is done...
Nincompoop drank it all...

lol^^

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:09:57 pm

   And yet we have less of a clue on who to pick now
then we did turn one even though we did picked wrong.
   Darvi: Why are you acting differently from when this
journey started? We have been out here in space for
a while and yet you suddenly seem to be acting differently,
is there a reason for this?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 03:10:23 pm

Well,i agree that delving in this won't probably give as any info so i'll start something more useful:

zrk2 Maybe i'm paranoid but i think your lurkiness is done on purpose. You asked no real question's D1, meanwhile accusing people with most votes with explanation that's really just hoping on bandwagon.Next that you avoided other questions by jsut pointing to this vote ,reducing your contribution nearly to zero. Do you have any scumpicks as for now ?

TolyK Why you ask for scumpicks without stating any of your suspicions ? Maybe you want to borrow some and get the bandowagon running ?

SaintDraze Why do you think you're next to be lynched ? How do you feel about zrk2 lurkiness ?

Akhier : Disregarding D1 is completely idiotic,unless you do not want us to scumhunt properly...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 03:16:09 pm

Day one is sort of like a n empty building site. Lots of empty space and lots of bickering about how to do things. Now it's day two, we have sort of a plan, and with the blood of the slain as a foundation, we can build a skyscraper of interrogation and deduction with which we can reach the heavens!

Got a little bot poetic there. What I mean is that I had little to no idea who to question and what questions to ask. Now I have enough information to actually work with.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:16:34 pm

   I misspoke about what I meant. The real meaning for
my words is that I want us to not consider chewie and
super at all except in terms of when someone talked to
them. Anyway even if we did reset right now as I said
with 2 less people the odds are better of hitting scum.
   We where going in rapidly tightening circles around
the meaning of chewies death so I was just like "well
then lets just not consider it" and back to square one
was the way I thought it through and not how it should
be done in reality.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 03:20:27 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 03:10:23 pm

TolyK Why you ask for scumpicks without stating any of your suspicions ? Maybe you want to borrow some and get the bandowagon running ?

It's 10 Pm here so I'll answer like this:
I'm planning to stay off bandwagons, but this will help find hotspots. Also see similar picks, or completely different ones, for possible pairs.
Also I am still confused about the turn of events. (NINJA'D: oh.)
(My suspicions will be revealed tomorrow, in real-life-time, well tomorrow for me at least)

Also:

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 03:10:23 pm

Akhier : Disregarding D1 is completely idiotic,unless you do not want us to scumhunt properly...

Yeah I raised an eyebrow when I saw that...
*NINJA'D!*

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:16:34 pm

   I misspoke about what I meant. The real meaning for
my words is that I want us to not consider chewie and
super at all except in terms of when someone talked to
them. Anyway even if we did reset right now as I said
with 2 less people the odds are better of hitting scum.
   We where going in rapidly tightening circles around
the meaning of chewies death so I was just like "well
then lets just not consider it" and back to square one
was the way I thought it through and not how it should
be done in reality.

gotcha. still weird IMO.

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 03:16:09 pm

Day one is sort of like a n empty building site. Lots of empty space and lots of bickering about how to do things. Now it's day two, we have sort of a plan, and with the blood of the slain as a foundation, we can build a skyscraper of interrogation and deduction with which we can reach the heavens!

Got a little bot poetic there. What I mean is that I had little to no idea who to question and what questions to ask. Now I have enough information to actually work with.

lol and understood.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 03:24:26 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 03:16:09 pm

Day one is sort of like a n empty building site. Lots of empty space and lots of bickering about how to do things. Now it's day two, we have sort of a plan, and with the blood of the slain as a foundation, we can build a skyscraper of interrogation and deduction with which we can reach the heavens!

Got a little bot poetic there. What I mean is that I had little to no idea who to question and what questions to ask. Now I have enough information to actually work with.

Now i feel inspired to scumhunt more ;p And i agree that now we have some 100% sure info to work on.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 03:26:34 pm

Hmmm.... who to question now...

Oh, I know!

Zrk2: How much has the deaths of Super and chewie changed your scumpicks?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 03:34:16 pm

WAIT!!!???!?!?!
Why would I be lynched???
Might As well accuse myself before others start doing it...

anyhow
LordNincompoop- You have been rather hard to read...
What were your scum picks again?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 03:46:11 pm

"Read" figuratively or literally?

Also, they were Akhier, then Zrk2/Tyberix, then you.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Supercharazad on February 09, 2011, 03:59:03 pm

To all those who called me scum...

BAH!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 04:02:13 pm

   SaintDraze: Who do you think is the least likely
to be scum and why do you believe so?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 04:03:12 pm

Quote from: Supercharazad on February 09, 2011, 03:59:03 pm

To all those who called me scum...

BAH!

Hush! Dead people are to be quiet! *Ghostbusters theme song*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 04:04:09 pm

   He is allowed his one Bah post.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 09, 2011, 04:15:58 pm

The Zrk2 'post of the day' (Lol, I can only post between 3pm and 10pm ontario time):

My scumpick is SaintDraze because of these posts:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:57:35 pm

both of you were scumhunting great...

Votes to  lynch because people were scumhunting well. I call scum.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:39:03 pm

Its worth a shot though...

No it isn't. Just scumhunt. That's all you can do to prove your innocence.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 03:34:16 pm

WAIT!!!???!?!?!
Why would I be lynched???
Might As well accuse myself before others start doing it...

No, anything like that only draws more ire (like this).

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:00:12 pm

   Okay everybody, Starting now it is officially square one!
Everything you thought happened is now null and void so
there never was chewie or super. This is the only way out
of WIFOM death spiral.

This gets a FoS Ahkier, information should always be open to discussion, but one should remember the relative validity of that information.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:32:17 pm

   Zrk2: Are you going to be posting more or is life still
happening for you?

3-10pm everyday Ontario time. Other than that I have to sleep, or school.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 04:35:19 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 03:46:11 pm

"Read" figuratively or literally?

Also, they were Akhier, then Zrk2/Tyberix, then you.

Why is Akhier your top scum pick?

to Akheir-You and darvi actually, nothing from your previous posts have lead me to beleave you are scum... yet...

Zrk2 I admit that I have been scummy.I'm going to fix that...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 09, 2011, 04:51:28 pm

Then get scumhunting.

My vote stands.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 05:09:01 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 04:35:19 pm

...

to Akheir-You and darvi actually, nothing from your previous posts have lead me to beleave you are scum... yet...

Zrk2 I admit that I have been scummy.I'm going to fix that...

You taking policy of no scumhunt to extreme i see...
If you don't have any scummtells to point out on someone, why said it loud ? To make it look like you try,look more towny ? It ease the pressure,and you taking it very close to the point where i would call it buddying so :

SaintDraze When do you want to start real scumhunting ? Or do you want to start it at all ?

Akhier How do you rate each person's contribution in scum hunt from 1 to 10 ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:17:16 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 05:09:01 pm

Akhier How do you rate each person's contribution in scum hunt from 1 to 10 ?

SaintDraze : 5
Tyberix : 8
lordnincompoop : 7
Zrk2 : 4/5*
Darvi : 5
TolyK : 5
Akhier the Dragon heart : 5/5.5**

*Zrk2's actual questions have been helpful at a rating
of 5 but his absence makes it only worth 4

**I have been getting better and I would like to believe
that my various things like the vote count have helped in
the scum hunt in someway. The actual questions are at a
rating of 5.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 09, 2011, 05:18:10 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 02:57:49 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 02:55:39 pm

Ugh. Any discussion here seems to fall back to WIFOM. The nightkill really didn't help us.
Does anybody know how to counter act such a WIFOM cycle?

my question exactly.
ironyowl come here please!
**NINJAS!**

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 02:56:46 pm

The best way to counteract NK-related WIFOM is to simply not talk about it. NKs are usually bad sources of info anyways.

Or that.
But what do we do now? Same stuff as day 1?

It helps to view WIFOM as a literal choice of goblets. Once is poisoned, one isn't. Unless they both are. Hrm.

Without additional information, then, it's at best a coin toss. At worst, it's a distraction with no right answer.

So, it's useful to keep in mind as potential information, but unless you have something else that supports or narrows the choices down, you can really do better than a potentially rigged coin toss. Your collective decision to ignore it was fairly wise.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 05:50:36 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 04:35:19 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 03:46:11 pm

"Read" figuratively or literally?

Also, they were Akhier, then Zrk2/Tyberix, then you.

Why is Akhier your top scum pick?

to Akheir-You and darvi actually, nothing from your previous posts have lead me to beleave you are scum... yet...

Zrk2 I admit that I have been scummy.I'm going to fix that...

Do you read my posts at all?

I mentioned all of this before. Don't think I need to restate it.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 06:51:21 pm

   Darvi: Monkey monkey apples frog,  applesauce. Frog
apples monkey frog monkey!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 09, 2011, 06:52:32 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

How old are you?
Who are your scumpicks?
Can you help me try and stop the inane nattering about WIFOM?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 06:51:21 pm

   Darvi: Monkey monkey apples frog,  applesauce. Frog
apples monkey frog monkey!

You should be lynched just for this.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 07:17:49 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

Even if supercharazad was poor at scumhunt ,lynching townie brings no benefit to the town, unless you're talking about our brain-eating scum team...

Also Darvi again you're getting off track again,so :
-What do you think is town biggest advantage at this point ? Of course if you agree that town has the advantage over scum now.
-Who  is your top scumpick and who would you want to question more aside of him ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 10:53:14 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 07:17:49 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

Even if supercharazad was poor at scumhunt ,lynching townie brings no benefit to the town, unless you're talking about our brain-eating scum team...

Also Darvi again you're getting off track again,so :
-What do you think is town biggest advantage at this point ? Of course if you agree that town has the advantage over scum now.
-Who  is your top scumpick and who would you want to question more aside of him ?

It wasn't that he didn't scum hunt good enough, it was the fact that he was such a terrible distraction...
And when I say benefit its an overstatement... I know it only really benefits scum when townies are lynched...
Same thing with chewie... They could have NK some one like Cyberix or Lordnincompoop... guess they let the wookie win :D

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 11:00:34 pm

   Everyone has been asking who is the most likely scum.
I ask you* who do you think is the least likeliest to be
scum. My own pick is Darvi because of some offhand
comment he made that would indicate him not being
scum in a roundabout though completely valid fashion.

*All of you

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 11:42:16 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

One moment. I'll go to the age poll thread and PM who got it right.
Now, Darvi, how exactly are you contributing?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: chewie on February 10, 2011, 08:34:02 am

Well at least the replacement problem solved itself...

Good luck, town! Win this for (and with) me!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 09:24:52 am

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 09, 2011, 06:52:32 pm

How old are you?

20.

Quote

Who are your scumpicks?

I already said that a few posts ago.

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 02:55:39 pm

So far my scumpicks are Tyberix, Zrk2, and Draze for being kind of lurky.

Quote

Can you help me try and stop the inane nattering about WIFOM?

Trying to stop natter will only bring forth more natter. So no, just ignore it.

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 11:42:16 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

One moment. I'll go to the age poll thread and PM who got it right.

So much for my strategy...

Quote

Now, Darvi, how exactly are you contributing?

By scumhunting of course. I'm still waiting for Zrk2 to answer my previous question though. His FTD is suspicious, but maybe he just didn't notice. I'll make a mental note of that.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 11:00:34 pm

My own pick is Darvi because of some offhand
comment he made that would indicate him not being
scum in a roundabout though completely valid fashion.

Wait, let me get this straight... you accuse me of being scum... because of some comment that I made that would indicate towards me not being scum? Huh?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 10, 2011, 09:44:45 am

World.Entities.Homo.Sapiens.AwesomeFolks.TolyK.Expression = confused.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 10, 2011, 02:22:14 pm

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 2
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   Lordnincompoop (1) - SaintDraze
//  |   Zrk2 (1) - Tyberix
//  |   SaintDraze (1) - Zrk2
//  |
//  |   Not Voting (4) - TolyK, Darvi, Lordnincompoop, Akhier the Dragon hearted
//  |
//  |   No votes for extension/shorten
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends: Friday, February 11 @ 10:00 PM
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

Let me know if I missed anything.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 10, 2011, 02:24:25 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 09:24:52 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 11:00:34 pm

   Everyone has been asking who is the most likely scum.
I ask you* who do you think is the least likeliest to be
scum.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 11:00:34 pm

My own pick is Darvi because of some offhand
comment he made that would indicate him not being
scum in a roundabout though completely valid fashion.

Wait, let me get this straight... you accuse me of being scum... because of some comment that I made that would indicate towards me not being scum? Huh?

   You quote me out of context Darvi, I was asking
people who they think is least likely to be scum.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 10, 2011, 02:25:17 pm

   Heh, I quote fail. the upper my quote in darvi quote
is supposed to be above darvi quote on its own.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:42:13 pm

Darvi
Despite the fact that your mustache is pure malice I believe that you are town for now...
Who are your current scumpicks again?

Lordnincompoop

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't really know the proper questions to take my suspicions off of you
 for drinking the wine-
It was completely acceptable how you dealt with it and all, but because it's so hard to get a good read on you I just have to wait for either tolyk or zrk2 to slip up before I can take my eyes off of you guys...

What do think of Tolyk or zrk2?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 10, 2011, 02:55:53 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:42:13 pm

...
It was completely acceptable how you dealt with it and all, but because it's so hard to get a good read on you I just have to wait for either tolyk or zrk2 to slip up before I can take my eyes off of you guys.
...

Great example of wishful thinking : You assume someone is scum and try to fit their response into your expectation. It should be completely reverse process,unless you have a scummy plan to go with and you need to accuse certain people.

lordincompoop How it's possible that you haven't asked any questions to anyone on your scumpick list since the beginning of the day ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:59:01 pm

Okay thats It I have come up with my scum picks

Lordnincompoop&Tyberix
Hardest to read, May have gotten dunked in wine...
Zrk2&Tolyk
Zrk2&tolyk are the Ones that I am most Unsure about...Zrk2 might be trying to get me lynched but then again most of my post are missing.... Whats the word?
Coherence...
And Tolyk always managed to end every... Single... One... Of my Mini Rp stories...
These two are probably the scum if Tyberix or Lordnincompoop turn out to be town if they get KN or mislynched...

Akheir&DarviI think they are town but you can never be sure...
but for All I know they could be the most insidious ones of all 0_o
Myself
Yes I am town...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 10, 2011, 03:47:19 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:42:13 pm

...
It was completely acceptable how you dealt with it and all, but because it's so hard to get a good read on you I just have to wait for either tolyk or zrk2 to slip up before I can take my eyes off of you guys.
...

Sounds rather scummy to me... Although this could be taken as an OMGUS, the point stands, it does sound a little off.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:59:01 pm

Zrk2 might be trying to get me lynched but then again most of my post are missing.... Whats the word?
Coherence...

Yes, yes I am. Lack of coherence is a good indicator of scuminess, because a scum would contradict themselves covering their scummitude.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 03:56:09 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 10, 2011, 02:24:25 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 09:24:52 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 11:00:34 pm

   Everyone has been asking who is the most likely scum.
I ask you* who do you think is the least likeliest to be
scum.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 11:00:34 pm

My own pick is Darvi because of some offhand
comment he made that would indicate him not being
scum in a roundabout though completely valid fashion.

Wait, let me get this straight... you accuse me of being scum... because of some comment that I made that would indicate towards me not being scum? Huh?

   You quote me out of context Darvi, I was asking
people who they think is least likely to be scum.

Aaaah. So you meant your pick for answering that question. Makes more sense.

I would say you and Tolyk for now. But my intuition usually is wrong, so don't quote me on that.

Which reminds me that I still have to answer his questions.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 07:17:49 pm

Also Darvi again you're getting off track again,so :
-What do you think is town biggest advantage at this point ? Of course if you agree that town has the advantage over scum now.
-Who  is your top scumpick and who would you want to question more aside of him ?

-So far? Having IronyOwl on our side.
-Main scumpick is Zrk2. SaintDraze isn't quite umm, how do you say it... well he's asked me for my scumpicks despite the fact that I already posted them before and never indicated anything that might've changed my picks.

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 10, 2011, 03:47:19 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:42:13 pm

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It was completely acceptable how you dealt with it and all, but because it's so hard to get a good read on you I just have to wait for either tolyk or zrk2 to slip up before I can take my eyes off of you guys.
...

Sounds rather scummy to me... Although this could be taken as an OMGUS, the point stands, it does sound a little off.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:59:01 pm

Zrk2 might be trying to get me lynched but then again most of my post are missing.... Whats the word?
Coherence...

Yes, yes I am. Lack of coherence is a good indicator of scuminess, because a scum would contradict themselves covering their scummitude.

Ah yes. Coherent is the word I was looking for. Although since I doubt Zrk2 would be bussing, one of them most likely is town.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 04:25:27 pm

Nothing is really getting done and the day ends tomorrow...
I'm going to Unvote Lordnincompoop since I can't really get any solid info from wine, I'm going to turn my sights To Tolyk
You aren't really posting much in the lines of scum hunting for the last two pages huh?
Something up?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 05:03:27 pm

Hmmm...

Tyberix: Whose death would hinder town the most in your opinion?
Lordnincompoop: If everybody would vote for Akhier, would you agree?
Tolyk: Why do youu think that Draze voted for you?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 10, 2011, 05:08:27 pm

Well, it's not addressed to me, but I feel the death of Nincompoop would likely be a loss, as he seems fairly town. But I reserve all judgement until he is dead or the game ends.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 05:33:33 pm

well I could answer that question darvi
I can't keep voting Lord nincompoop and Voting zrk2 would really just be OMGUSing him...
Tolyk however has kind of been lurking around... His last post makes less sense then me...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 11, 2011, 02:02:46 am

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 02:15:42 am

   Hey Argembarger, do the votes stay day to day
or is it just the program you use? Your thing still shows
lord as voting for Supercharazad so I would guess it is
the program but I just want to be sure.

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

Quote

Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 0

SaintDraze - 1 - Zrk2
February 09, 2011
lordnincompoop->12:57:35pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1961942#msg1961942)
February 10, 2011
Unvote->TolyK->04:25:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1965497#msg1965497)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 09, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->02:49:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962194#msg1962194)

TolyK - 1 - SaintDraze

Tyberix - 0
February 09, 2011
Zrk2->03:10:23pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962229#msg1962229)   SaintDraze->05:09:01pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962552#msg1962552)

Darvi - 0

Zrk2 - 1 - Tyberix
February 09, 2011
SaintDraze->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:15:58pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962401#msg1962401)

Spoiler: Dead Townies (click to show/hide)

chewie - Night 1 Mafia kill - no ability's
Supercharazad - Day 1 Lynch - no ability's

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 02:25:13 am

   And by Day I mean game day not real day cause
that would be stupid!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 04:49:07 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 05:03:27 pm

Tyberix: Whose death would hinder town the most in your opinion?

Last time i checked it would be lordincompoop or tolyk, but both got strangely silent lately...

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 05:33:33 pm

well I could answer that question darvi
I can't keep voting Lord nincompoop and Voting zrk2 would really just be OMGUSing him...
Tolyk however has kind of been lurking around... His last post makes less sense then me...

Again you make it look like you follow some outside given plan...

Akhier Who do you think is most likely scum-partners ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 05:34:01 am

   Tyberix: I am leaning towards TolyK and Zrk2 as either
one or the other being scum. They could both be scum
but on the 7th, TolyK voted for Zrk2. That could be
a ploy though because by that time Supercharazad
was pretty much a dead man walking. I do not have a
this is the scum buddies pick because they are somewhat
mutually exclusive at this point. The ploy angle could
work though especially since TolyK had no reason stated
except on your comment that Zrk2 needed prodding.
That is fishy in that it is less of a reason and more of
an excuse.

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 02:24:29 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 07, 2011, 02:23:07 pm

And i think it's time to prod Zrk2

Prodding Zrk2 with da red.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 06:03:18 am

Tolyk has more posts thatn I do? Blasphemy!

Quote from: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 04:49:07 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 05:03:27 pm

Tyberix: Whose death would hinder town the most in your opinion?

Last time i checked it would be lordincompoop or tolyk, but both got strangely silent lately...

But apparently the two of them are the main candidates for being scum. Wouldn't having one of them dead be beneficial or something? I dunno.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 11, 2011, 10:32:53 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 02:15:42 am

   Hey Argembarger, do the votes stay day to day
or is it just the program you use? Your thing still shows
lord as voting for Supercharazad so I would guess it is
the program but I just want to be sure.

Yeah, it's just the program. There's no way for it to distinguish between game days currently.

I don't rely on it to track votes anyway, just who's lurkin'. That's it's intended purpose at the moment. The red-text finder is more to quickly locate the post in which the vote is located, as a convenience for you, but someday the LurkerTracker may be able to distinguish game-days and be less buggy to become a moderator's fire-and-forget game modding tool.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 11, 2011, 11:44:38 am

Sorry folks that I've been gone for a while, it seems my internet company will have lots of complaints coming in...

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 04:25:27 pm

Nothing is really getting done and the day ends tomorrow...
I'm going to Unvote Lordnincompoop since I can't really get any solid info from wine, I'm going to turn my sights To Tolyk
You aren't really posting much in the lines of scum hunting for the last two pages huh?
Something up?

My internet is wonky. Also I've been busy programming.

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 05:03:27 pm

Tolyk: Why do youu think that Draze voted for you?

because it might seem that I've been lurking:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 05:33:33 pm

well I could answer that question darvi
I can't keep voting Lord nincompoop and Voting zrk2 would really just be OMGUSing him...
Tolyk however has kind of been lurking around... His last post makes less sense then me...

and

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:59:01 pm

Zrk2&Tolyk
Zrk2&tolyk are the Ones that I am most Unsure about...
And Tolyk always managed to end every... Single... One... Of my Mini Rp stories...

Lol. Well at least it was a good ending *usually* ;)
***

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 05:34:01 am

   Tyberix: I am leaning towards TolyK and Zrk2 as either
one or the other being scum. They could both be scum
but on the 7th, TolyK voted for Zrk2. That could be
a ploy though because by that time Supercharazad
was pretty much a dead man walking. I do not have a
this is the scum buddies pick because they are somewhat
mutually exclusive at this point. The ploy angle could
work though especially since TolyK had no reason stated
except on your comment that Zrk2 needed prodding.
That is fishy in that it is less of a reason and more of
an excuse.

Well zrk2 showed up didn't he? He gave me some info, will do a bit later.

Quote from: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 06:03:18 am

Tolyk has more posts than I do? Blasphemy!

Lol.

Quote

Quote from: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 04:49:07 am

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 05:03:27 pm

Tyberix: Whose death would hinder town the most in your opinion?

Last time i checked it would be lordincompoop or tolyk, but both got strangely silent lately...

But apparently the two of them are the main candidates for being scum. Wouldn't having one of them dead be beneficial or something? I dunno.

I'm not sure about nincompoop or zrk2. They seem to both be lurking.

***

Scumpicks in another post.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 12:40:00 pm

I'd say sorry for disappearing, but I'm not really. I had an exhausting day yesterday, and about the most productive thing I could do was stagger off to bed.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:59:01 pm

Lordnincompoop&Tyberix
Hardest to read, May have gotten dunked in wine...

What the hell do you mean, "dunked in wine"?

Quote from: Tyberix on February 10, 2011, 02:55:53 pm

lordincompoop How it's possible that you haven't asked any questions to anyone on your scumpick list since the beginning of the day ?

See the beginning of my post. It was midterms, and I was busy/sick/tired.

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:42:13 pm

Lordnincompoop
... for drinking the wine...
What do think of Tolyk or zrk2?

If you mean ending the WIFOM, I'd say that was a good call on my part. We were distracted, and there was no real scumhunting being done.

TolyK is rather flaky. I haven't seen him taking active part in discussions, and he has no excuse. Bluh I fail at reading comprehension. TolyK's been active lately, he's doing a pretty good job. His avatar is hard to notice though, so he seems less visible than he really is. Zrk2 is flaky, but he seems to have better insight and he has his reasons for not being incredibly active.

Quote from: Darvi on February 10, 2011, 05:03:27 pm

Lordnincompoop: If everybody would vote for Akhier, would you agree?

That would depend on the context, and the reasons for their vote. I'm generally not into mindless bandwagoning ("oh look LNCP voted for Akhier, I'll vote for him too").



SaintDraze, tell me how you're not scum. So far, the only reasons you've provided for the main scumpick (me) was because you can't seem to get a read on me, and WIFOM. Your posts on D2:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

0:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:36:05 pm

CHEWIE!!!! NOOOOOO DX!!!!
obviously since the mafia didn't choose to kill Tyberix or lordnincompoop, The most unreadable of us all (besides Darvi's 'Stache of course... But how can you lynch a 'Stache? absurd!)

I'l begin with LordNincompoop
Why do you think chewie was nightkilled?There must have been better targets, wouldn't you agree?
NINJA'D

1:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:41:12 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 12:32:51 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 12:31:25 pm

Damn that was fast.

Nincompoop. why do you think they killed chewie?

I know it wasn't to me, but:
He was active and had almost no connections?

Ah then why wouldn't they go for Tyberix?

2:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:57:35 pm

okay then I pick.... C.Darvi and his 'Stache Lordnincompoop and Tyberix...
both of you were scumhunting great...
Lordnincompoop&Tyberix:How many times have you questioned each other?

3:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 01:09:07 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

Precisely! You should have been nightkilled. You were playing much better then chewie... Or atleast thats what I thought...You are right that starting this line of questioning over a nightkill will just lead to WIFoMing, So I am just going to keep my eye on you... until you slip up...Or find the real scum...

4:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 01:45:30 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:25:03 pm

personally I think this is staged.
they didn't NK the best player to get suspicion on him. He's likely, but not "Insta-scum just add hot water."

Any other scumpicks?

Well defending him just earned you a spot on my scum list...
not a big spot mind you, since you are probably right...

5:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:19:51 pm

Toaster Is a Baby sand worm from Dune?

My explanation is flawless:
I Leik bacon
I have none...
I am however surprised that no one accused me of being scum since I was still on alittle after the night began...
So I am going to bring it up before someone else brings it up..
My rashness however would have made me a likely candidate for scum...

6:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 02:39:03 pm

Its worth a shot though...

7:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 03:04:56 pm

Wupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwupwup_wupwupwup~
wine is done...
Nincompoop drank it all...

8:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 03:34:16 pm

WAIT!!!???!?!?!
Why would I be lynched???
Might As well accuse myself before others start doing it...

anyhow
LordNincompoop- You have been rather hard to read...
What were your scum picks again?

9:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 04:35:19 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 03:46:11 pm

"Read" figuratively or literally?

Also, they were Akhier, then Zrk2/Tyberix, then you.

Why is Akhier your top scum pick?

to Akheir-You and darvi actually, nothing from your previous posts have lead me to beleave you are scum... yet...

Zrk2 I admit that I have been scummy.I'm going to fix that...

10:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

11:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 10:53:14 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 09, 2011, 07:17:49 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

Even if supercharazad was poor at scumhunt ,lynching townie brings no benefit to the town, unless you're talking about our brain-eating scum team...

Also Darvi again you're getting off track again,so :
-What do you think is town biggest advantage at this point ? Of course if you agree that town has the advantage over scum now.
-Who  is your top scumpick and who would you want to question more aside of him ?

It wasn't that he didn't scum hunt good enough, it was the fact that he was such a terrible distraction...
And when I say benefit its an overstatement... I know it only really benefits scum when townies are lynched...
Same thing with chewie... They could have NK some one like Cyberix or Lordnincompoop... guess they let the wookie win

12:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:42:13 pm

Darvi
Despite the fact that your mustache is pure malice I believe that you are town for now...
Who are your current scumpicks again?

Lordnincompoop

I don't really know the proper questions to take my suspicions off of you
 for drinking the wine-
It was completely acceptable how you dealt with it and all, but because it's so hard to get a good read on you I just have to wait for either tolyk or zrk2 to slip up before I can take my eyes off of you guys...

What do think of Tolyk or zrk2?

13:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 02:59:01 pm

Okay thats It I have come up with my scum picks

Lordnincompoop&Tyberix
Hardest to read, May have gotten dunked in wine...
Zrk2&Tolyk
Zrk2&tolyk are the Ones that I am most Unsure about...Zrk2 might be trying to get me lynched but then again most of my post are missing.... Whats the word?
Coherence...
And Tolyk always managed to end every... Single... One... Of my Mini Rp stories...
These two are probably the scum if Tyberix or Lordnincompoop turn out to be town if they get KN or mislynched...

Akheir&DarviI think they are town but you can never be sure...
but for All I know they could be the most insidious ones of all 0_o
Myself
Yes I am town...

14:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 10, 2011, 04:25:27 pm

Nothing is really getting done and the day ends tomorrow...
I'm going to Unvote Lordnincompoop since I can't really get any solid info from wine, I'm going to turn my sights To Tolyk
You aren't really posting much in the lines of scum hunting for the last two pages huh?
Something up?

You were dogging me for quite a while, but all I saw you do was claim my scumminess, and ask me some vague questions. The few reasons you provided were weak (see 0, 3, 8, 12, 13), and outright scummy at points:

Post 2: I cannot stress enough how suspicious this appears. You're blatantly trying to vote out players because they're helping the town. Why would you even do this if you were not scum?

None of your posts have provided detailed reasoning as to your decisions, or any hints as to some hidden understanding. Your votes have been given with short explanations, and often, no reasoning is provided. Where you provided some reasoning, you tended to use WIFOM, or weak logic:

Post 3: Here, your reasoning is simply pure WIFOM, and I'm sure I don't need to explain how that is to anyone here. Again, you are trying to eliminate active people, which is in opposition to the goals of the town. This is what scum should be doing, not you.

Post 12: The only reason you have stated was your difficult of getting a read on me, and your inability to ask satisfactory questions. This is completely unacceptable; these are your faults, and your faults only. You should not project that on another person. If you wish to get a better read on people, ask them questions and put pressure on them. Do not simply stand in the sidelines and make comments.

You haven't put any amount of pressure on anyone today, and your scumhunting was ineffective at best. Your posts aren't the most eloquent, either.

All this hints at someone who cannot hunt for the scum he knows he is. You can't provide reasons, because none are valid for you. You are incapable of pressure, because you lack the necessary conviction behind them as you are the scum we are looking for. You do not provide much reasoning or many observations, because you are afraid the town will use it against you.

You are scum.

_{And to answer an obvious question: Most of these examples have me in it because I was the main target in most of his posts.}

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 11, 2011, 01:41:10 pm

Yes, you make a good point. He really doesn't make any points, and he blatantly tries to lynch people for scumhunting. This is either terrible townieing or crappy mafiosoing. When does the day end?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 11, 2011, 01:58:51 pm

well we lynch a bad town, and another one dies from an NK.
I'm not saying anything for/against lynching draze, but we really should think more before lynching this time. I suggest an extension.


*Note: DAMN BROWSER! You ate my post again!*
*Anyone know how I can save text I typed in in Firefox?*

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 11, 2011, 02:05:15 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 11, 2011, 01:41:10 pm

Yes, you make a good point. He really doesn't make any points, and he blatantly tries to lynch people for scumhunting. This is either terrible townieing or crappy mafiosoing. When does the day end?

Day ends in 7 hours and 55 minutes from the time of this post

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 11, 2011, 02:09:50 pm

yeah extend (already did in green)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:13:54 pm

Just as a point of curiosity, is it two votes or three votes for an extend now?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:15:49 pm

Also, would anyone be interested in a Mafia Questions and Meta Thread?

I think it'd be nice to have a thread to discuss the rules of the game and different strategies in a non-game environment. I'm doing an interest check first though.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Ottofar on February 11, 2011, 03:17:07 pm

I guess you should go to games threshold and discussion with that idea.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:26:20 pm

Arrite, I'll make a post.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 11, 2011, 03:31:10 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:13:54 pm

Just as a point of curiosity, is it two votes or three votes for an extend now?

it's 3 IIRC, we had 2 votes yesterday.

My scumpicks are draze, akhier, and darvi.
Draze: don't say you'll defend yourself, just do it.
akhier: my prodding worked, partially at least. did it not? ... why so quick to put folks together?
darvi: I know you can be more productive. C'mon now, it's too much. It's funny, but too much. Could be a scum ploy.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:32:45 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 11, 2011, 03:31:10 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:13:54 pm

Just as a point of curiosity, is it two votes or three votes for an extend now?

it's 3 IIRC, we had 2 votes yesterday.

The thing is though, there's 7 of us now and 33% of that would be 2.31 . So is Argembarger the kind of person that would round up or down?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 11, 2011, 03:33:54 pm

it's a least 2.31, so at least three I guess.
are you voting for extend?

also:
Any questions for me?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 03:38:38 pm

I'm voting for extend so I'll have some time to read through your posts.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 04:08:58 pm

Ok, so here's my thoughts on you guys.

Tolyk: His last big post was, well, big, but didn't really say anything. Sure, he voted to extend, but since Draze is pretty much the only one who voted for him right now, it might just be a ruse to make him look townier without putting himself too much at risk

Zrk2: He's lurky, and didn't do much since yesterround. His first post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962508#msg1962508) was productive, and his vote is justified as Draze behaves kinda scummy (which could still be interpreted as bussing anyways) , but his next and last major post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962893#msg1962893) was a retort to my own off-topic post (which is okay, I guess), asking for my scumpicks (superfluous, as I already posted them), and asking me to help him stop the wine (which nincompoop already drank *g*, so superfluous). Not much in the scumhunting department aside from accusing Draze.

Tyberix: Was quiet lately, but his posts were mostly productive. Also, he's on the top of Draze's scumlist, but following that line of thought would lead to WIFOM

Akhier: Active and hunts a lot, although he did go after Tyberix and nincompoop. But that might just've been the wine doing bad things to his head.

Lordnincpmpoop: Active scumhunter, wiped up the wine and has thoroughly dissected Draze's posts. Although, considering how bad Draze does, it wouldn't be too much of a risk to bus him. Also on Draze's scumlist, but WIFOM etc.etc...

Draze: Nothing to say that hasn't already been said by nincompoop.

Me: Nutjob who can't concentrate on the important stuff and derails often. Possessed my an evil 'stache.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 05:12:49 pm

Well i think we got some extra time so i'll it won't hurt if i ask few more questions :

SaintDraze Your Top Scumpick + one non-wifomy argument why. Also what's the difference between "real scum " and people you vote for ? (mentioned here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1961971#msg1961971) )

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 05:34:01 am

[...]
I do not have a
this is the scum buddies pick because they are somewhat
mutually exclusive at this point.
[...]

Why ?

Zrk2 Why so silent,your last post is just buddying...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 05:17:20 pm

SaintDraze, give me at least three strong, eloquent aguments each for your top scumpick and why you should be spared.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 11, 2011, 06:19:04 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 05:17:20 pm

SaintDraze, give me at least three strong, eloquent aguments each for your top scumpick and why you should be spared.

Well shit this Is going to be impossible for me...

okay I am going to Revise my opinion of  whose scum...

*opinion Revised*

Wow I fail at mafia...

Okay then, unvote

Why I should be spared,
 The Last thing we need is for another town to be lynched since it will lead to a mislynch and loose situation...
But I did fail the"Don't !#%$!#$!ing Think about WiFoM!!!!!" for the second time playing mafia... And thats all I have been focusing On... The only reason I wasn't lynched on day 1 was because supercharazad was a bigger noob then me...

The Only real scumpick I can have isAkheir, since I Thought he and darvi were the least scummy, and since I am so bad at mafia my opinion of them must be wrong...

Anyhow I have digged my a hole I can not crawl out of with my meager capacity for logical thought :(

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 06:31:16 pm

No,please not that again!  :'(  :'(  :'(

The time you spend writing this post you could used on reading one post of anyone you suspect and finding one-even silly and not important slip and turned it into aggressive attack! I think you seen how that sort of thinking and defense ended for supercharzad , don't repeat his mistakes ! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOG SCUMHUNT NOW ! (And if this is a reverse psychology trick to not attack you based on supercharazad case outcome,think again, we're too stupid for these ;p)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:08:59 pm

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 11, 2011, 06:19:04 pm

The Only real scumpick I can have is Akheir, since I Thought he and darvi were the least scummy, and since I am so bad at mafia my opinion of them must be wrong...

Ok lets try this again

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 05:17:20 pm

SaintDraze, give me at least three strong, eloquent aguments each for your top scumpick and why you should be spared.

   SaintDraze, I was willing overlook some of you noob
stuff but being told you need reasons to vote someone
and promptly replying with unvoting and voting someone
else that you had even less of a reason for. You have
also been the most spastic with your voting and you
have at least once claimed to be town outright and that
is like an educational game calling itself fun.
   Also, Darvi and TolyK, Why have neither of you FoS'ed
or voted anyone yet? That seems a bit sneak to me.

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - SaintDraze
February 11, 2011
TolyK->05:34:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1967304#msg1967304)   SaintDraze->now

SaintDraze - 3 - Zrk2, Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted, and lordnincompoop
February 09, 2011
lordnincompoop->12:57:35pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1961942#msg1961942)
February 10, 2011
Unvote->TolyK->04:25:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1965497#msg1965497)
February 11, 2011
Unvote->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->06:19:04pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969307#msg1969307)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 09, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->02:49:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962194#msg1962194)
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->12:40:00pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1968233#msg1968233)

TolyK - 0

Tyberix - 0
February 09, 2011
Zrk2->03:10:23pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962229#msg1962229)   SaintDraze->05:09:01pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962552#msg1962552)
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->05:12:49pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969098#msg1969098)

Darvi - 0

Zrk2 - 1 - Tyberix
February 09, 2011
SaintDraze->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:15:58pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962401#msg1962401)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 07:13:02 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:08:59 pm

   Also, Darvi and TolyK, Why have neither of you FoS'ed
or voted anyone yet? That seems a bit sneak to me.

Damn I knew I forgot something.

So yeah, SaintDraze's last post blew his chance at survival. He does get an award though.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:19:45 pm

[sarcasm]
   Darvi, nice of you to join us on this bandwagon so quickly
after I point out you had not voted!
[/sarcasm]

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - SaintDraze
February 11, 2011
TolyK->05:34:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1967304#msg1967304)   SaintDraze->07:08:59pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969480#msg1969480)   Darvi->now

SaintDraze - 4 - Zrk2, Darvi, Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted, and lordnincompoop
February 09, 2011
lordnincompoop->12:57:35pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1961942#msg1961942)
February 10, 2011
Unvote->TolyK->04:25:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1965497#msg1965497)
February 11, 2011
Unvote->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->06:19:04pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969307#msg1969307)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 09, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->02:49:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962194#msg1962194)
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->12:40:00pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1968233#msg1968233)

TolyK - 0

Tyberix - 0
February 09, 2011
Zrk2->03:10:23pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962229#msg1962229)   SaintDraze->05:09:01pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962552#msg1962552)
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->05:12:49pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969098#msg1969098)

Darvi - 0
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->07:13:02pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969493#msg1969493)

Zrk2 - 1 - Tyberix
February 09, 2011
SaintDraze->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:15:58pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962401#msg1962401)

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 07:28:26 pm

Aaand Mafia Darwin Award goes to SaintDraze!
You got around 24h to explain yourself, if i get timezones stuff right. I really hope you post something logical/new/useful in that time, i suggest to start with some reasonable scumpicks

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:19:45 pm

[sarcasm]
   Darvi, nice of you to join us on this bandwagon so quickly
after I point out you had not voted!
[/sarcasm]

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - SaintDraze
February 11, 2011
TolyK->05:34:01am (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1967304#msg1967304)   SaintDraze->07:08:59pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969480#msg1969480)   Darvi->now

SaintDraze - 4 - Zrk2, Darvi, Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted, and lordnincompoop
February 09, 2011
lordnincompoop->12:57:35pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1961942#msg1961942)
February 10, 2011
Unvote->TolyK->04:25:27pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1965497#msg1965497)
February 11, 2011
Unvote->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->06:19:04pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969307#msg1969307)

lordnincompoop - 0
February 09, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->02:49:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962194#msg1962194)
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->12:40:00pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1968233#msg1968233)

TolyK - 0

Tyberix - 0
February 09, 2011
Zrk2->03:10:23pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962229#msg1962229)   SaintDraze->05:09:01pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962552#msg1962552)
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->05:12:49pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969098#msg1969098)

Darvi - 0
February 11, 2011
SaintDraze->07:13:02pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1969493#msg1969493)

Zrk2 - 1 - Tyberix
February 09, 2011
SaintDraze->Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->04:15:58pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962401#msg1962401)

I could ask you the same Akhier,but what worries me more is why do you avoided my question and why do you think evrybody needs to vote now ? Maybe because situation is in your favor,eh ?

Also goodnight everybody, i'll post more tomorrow.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 07:31:46 pm

[sincerity]Why, thank you. [/sincerity]

No seriously, his reasoning is totally ridiculous. Even I had to bang my wall against the head. Also i could FoS you for exactly the same reason, were it not quite clear that you had the same reason I have. Unless of course you have some ulterior motives?

Quote from: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 07:28:26 pm

Aaand Mafia Darvin Award goes to SaintDraze!

/fixed :P

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 11, 2011, 07:36:57 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 05:12:49 pm

Zrk2 Why so silent,your last post is just buddying...

My last post is 'buddying' because LNCP expressed everything I thought about Draze. His next post after yours demonstrates his total uselessness:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 11, 2011, 06:19:04 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 05:17:20 pm

SaintDraze, give me at least three strong, eloquent aguments each for your top scumpick and why you should be spared.

Well shit this Is going to be impossible for me...

okay I am going to Revise my opinion of  whose scum...

*opinion Revised*

Wow I fail at mafia...

Okay then, unvote

Why I should be spared,
 The Last thing we need is for another town to be lynched since it will lead to a mislynch and loose situation...
But I did fail the"Don't !#%$!#$!ing Think about WiFoM!!!!!" for the second time playing mafia... And thats all I have been focusing On... The only reason I wasn't lynched on day 1 was because supercharazad was a bigger noob then me...

The Only real scumpick I can have isAkheir, since I Thought he and darvi were the least scummy, and since I am so bad at mafia my opinion of them must be wrong...

Anyhow I have digged my a hole I can not crawl out of with my meager capacity for logical thought :(

He doesn't even try to form an argument and just rails about how poor he is at the game. This just shows that he is totally useless. I think we could actually shorten, because it seems obvious that he is going to be lynched.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 11, 2011, 07:37:35 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 05:12:49 pm

Zrk2 Why so silent,your last post is just buddying...

My last post is 'buddying' because LNCP expressed everything I thought about Draze. His next post after yours demonstrates his total uselessness:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 11, 2011, 06:19:04 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 05:17:20 pm

SaintDraze, give me at least three strong, eloquent aguments each for your top scumpick and why you should be spared.

Well shit this Is going to be impossible for me...

okay I am going to Revise my opinion of  whose scum...

*opinion Revised*

Wow I fail at mafia...

Okay then, unvote

Why I should be spared,
 The Last thing we need is for another town to be lynched since it will lead to a mislynch and loose situation...
But I did fail the"Don't !#%$!#$!ing Think about WiFoM!!!!!" for the second time playing mafia... And thats all I have been focusing On... The only reason I wasn't lynched on day 1 was because supercharazad was a bigger noob then me...

The Only real scumpick I can have isAkheir, since I Thought he and darvi were the least scummy, and since I am so bad at mafia my opinion of them must be wrong...

Anyhow I have digged my a hole I can not crawl out of with my meager capacity for logical thought :(

He doesn't even try to form an argument and just rails about how poor he is at the game. This just shows that he is totally useless. I think we could actually shorten, because it seems obvious that he is going to be lynched.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:38:22 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 11, 2011, 07:28:26 pm

I could ask you the same Akhier,but what worries me more is why do you avoided my question and why do you think evrybody needs to vote now ? Maybe because situation is in your favor,eh ?

   Actually I do not care so much, it was just having exactly
2 people withholding there votes and FoS was little to coincidental
to not point out.

Quote from: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 07:31:46 pm

[sincerity]Why, thank you. [/sincerity]

No seriously, his reasoning is totally ridiculous. Even I had to bang my wall against the head. Also i could FoS you for exactly the same reason, were it not quite clear that you had the same reason I have. Unless of course you have some ulterior motives?

   And thank you for putting your reasons for switching.
That is all I wanted really. You gave no real reason in
you voting post outside of "oh I forgot to vote".

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 07:44:49 pm

Actually I did said that his last post pretty much tipped the scales. Maybe I just was a bit unclear on that :/

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:54:27 pm

Quote from: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 07:13:02 pm

Damn I knew I forgot something.

So yeah, SaintDraze's last post blew his chance at survival. He does get an award though.

   You mention it but because it comes after the forgot
part it seems to be a secondary concern and you really
do not mention why his last post blew it, just that it did.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 11, 2011, 09:11:58 pm

Hey guys, uh

I'll be heading out tonight to take care of business.

I don't know if I will have internets access where I am going. It's possible, but slightly unlikely. If I have internet access, then this message can be disregarded.

If not, I'm going to mod extend the day until I have internet access again.

Please be patient. The day will end or be extended or whatever as soon as I am able to process it.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 12, 2011, 01:24:17 am

My notes in bold:

Quote from: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 04:08:58 pm

Ok, so here's my thoughts on you guys.

Tolyk: His last big post was, well, big, but didn't really say anything. Sure, he voted to extend, but since Draze is pretty much the only one who voted for him right now, it might just be a ruse to make him look townier without putting himself too much at risk
My last post was mostly to clear confusion up... kinda like this one I guess  :P

Zrk2: He's lurky, and didn't do much since yesterround. His first post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962508#msg1962508) was productive, and his vote is justified as Draze behaves kinda scummy (which could still be interpreted as bussing anyways) , but his next and last major post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1962893#msg1962893) was a retort to my own off-topic post (which is okay, I guess), asking for my scumpicks (superfluous, as I already posted them), and asking me to help him stop the wine (which nincompoop already drank *g*, so superfluous). Not much in the scumhunting department aside from accusing Draze.
... which is kind-of a bandwagon.

Tyberix: Was quiet lately, but his posts were mostly productive. Also, he's on the top of Draze's scumlist, but following that line of thought would lead to WIFOM
productive, yes. helpful, maybe. I can see that tyberix and nincompoop aren't questioning each other seriously (only easy questions with FoS

Akhier: Active and hunts a lot, although he did go after Tyberix and nincompoop. But that might just've been the wine doing bad things to his head.
he could be on the right trail as (I think) he posted that these guys weren't interacting. or he could be kicking them.

Lordnincpmpoop: Active scumhunter, wiped up the wine and has thoroughly dissected Draze's posts. Although, considering how bad Draze does, it wouldn't be too much of a risk to bus him. Also on Draze's scumlist, but WIFOM etc.etc...
hasn't posted much on tyberix...

Draze: Nothing to say that hasn't already been said by nincompoop.
yeah, voting for him for me is pointless, he's probably gonna die anyway.

Me: Nutjob who can't concentrate on the important stuff and derails often. Possessed my an evil 'stache.

Lol

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:08:59 pm

   Also, Darvi and TolyK, Why have neither of you FoS'ed
or voted anyone yet? That seems a bit sneak to me.

Because I was offline and had to read up some.
***
Tyberix and Lordnincompoop haven't charged at each other. Something the matter? Any questions to each other? (Other than the usual, 'Do you like cheese/pie/whatever?') You both point out flaws of draze (not saying you shouldn't...) but not of each other.
Any reason?

I want you two to prove me wrong (by showing your posts) and ask each other some real questions.
***

Quote from: Argembarger on February 11, 2011, 09:11:58 pm

Hey guys, uh

I'll be heading out tonight to take care of business.

I don't know if I will have internets access where I am going. It's possible, but slightly unlikely. If I have internet access, then this message can be disregarded.

If not, I'm going to mod extend the day until I have internet access again.

Please be patient. The day will end or be extended or whatever as soon as I am able to process it.

s'cool.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Tyberix on February 12, 2011, 08:35:04 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 12, 2011, 01:24:17 am

[...]
Tyberix and Lordnincompoop haven't charged at each other. Something the matter? Any questions to each other? (Other than the usual, 'Do you like cheese/pie/whatever?') You both point out flaws of draze (not saying you shouldn't...) but not of each other.
Any reason?

I want you two to prove me wrong (by showing your posts) and ask each other some real questions.
[...]

Well, it's simply the matter of who i find more scummy : Lordnincompoop is fourth on my list (zrk2>saintdraze(jumped here mostly thanks to his denfensive stance in his last post)>akhier>lordnincompoop), and i feel it's better to concentrate on my top choices. Another thing is that he seems to be scumhunting which is not true for everybody. How you think will go he game if everybody was questioning everyone ? I think it would negate the feeling of pressure which is necessary for  a good scumhunt. And that's the goal of questioning isn't it ?
As for pointing out flaws it's funny you say that, such sudden change in your attack from your previous top scumpicks without pointing anything in particular ? But you're right i shouldn't ignore people other than my top scumpick so :

Lordincompoop Why do i have a feeling that your attack on SaintDraze was based mainly on the fact that he always defends himself with the "i'm town" argument ? Also who do you think is SaintDraze's partner  ?
Darvi Why most of your opinions are justified by WIFOMy reasons ?  How you feel about current situation and who do you think should explain his actions more ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Darvi on February 12, 2011, 08:49:44 am

WIFOM? Apart from those time I actually pointed it out I fail to notice any in my posts. However I'm a very sceptic person, especially towards my own arguments, so that's probably why.

As for the current situation, until Draze manages to somehow save himself we're probably better off questioning our other scumpicks.

Nincompoop:

Quote

Akhier: Active and hunts a lot, although he did go after Tyberix and   nincompoop. But that might just've been the wine doing bad things to his   head.
he could be on the right trail as (I think) he posted that these guys weren't interacting.

Explain.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: Argembarger on February 12, 2011, 11:19:23 am

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 2
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   Akhier the Dragon hearted (1) - SaintDraze
//  |   Zrk2 (1) - Tyberix
//  |   SaintDraze (4) - Zrk2, lordnincompoop, Akhier, Darvi
//  |   Tyberix (1) -TolyK
//  |
//  |   Not Voting (0)
//  |
//  |   Extension (2) - TolyK, Darvi
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day Ends Now
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

SaintDraze was the next representative to be lynched.

Because of the deaths of the previous day, all hesitation was gone. Zrk2, Lordnincompoop, Akhier, and Darvi all picked up plastic cylindrical pencil holders from the table and beat SaintDraze to death with them.

Alas, no ichor spilled out of his ear. He was not possessed.

But at least he had no special skills, as well.

You all find the most comfortable position you can, and sleep through your fear and exhaustion.

It is now Night 2.
Night 2 ends Monday, February 14 @ 10:00 PM, or sooner.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 14, 2011, 11:47:09 pm

Everyone woke up to the sound of pounding and yelling at the door. It appeared that the rest of the ship had gotten worried at the length of silence from the meeting room.

One of the representatives ran to the door and yelled reassuring things to calm everyone down, telling them that the meeting would be over in a couple of days and that everything was OK.

After the crowd outside had been placated, everyone went and examined the new body.

Darvi's throat had been ripped out.

He was not possessed and had no special skills

There isn't much time left. The situation is reaching a critical point.

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 3
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   No votes
//  |
//  |   Not voting (5) - Zrk2, Tyberix, TolyK, Akhier the Dragon hearted, lordnincompoop
//  |   
//  |   No extension/shorten requests
//  |   3 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day 3 Ends: Wednesday, February 16 @ 10:00 PM EST
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 01:06:19 am

Imma pukin my blood all over your carpet blaaaaargh! : (=)=======>

Well, I'm honored, it means I seem more of a threat to the mafia that the rest of you. GL, HF, etc etc.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: SaintDraze on February 15, 2011, 08:33:13 am

Those pencils have better been Unleaded!
well me and darvi are out of the game...
Good game I guess...
Just another steping stone to non-noobness for me

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 08:35:26 am

LYLO. Also sorry for not being speedy to reply last gameday, was Minecrafting.

Quote from: TolyK on February 12, 2011, 01:24:17 am

Tyberix and Lordnincompoop haven't charged at each other. Something the matter? Any questions to each other? (Other than the usual, 'Do you like cheese/pie/whatever?') You both point out flaws of draze (not saying you shouldn't...) but not of each other.

Simply put, because there were bigger fish in the sea (is that how it goes?). I considered Super/Draze to be more scummy, and focused on those. This argument could just as easily be applied to you or other people, because I've been focusing quite a bit on just those people (it's called pressure, by the way).

Thanks for the mention though, I'll try to talk to other people more.

Quote from: Darvi on February 12, 2011, 08:49:44 am

Nincompoop:

Quote

Akhier: Active and hunts a lot, although he did go after Tyberix and   nincompoop. But that might just've been the wine doing bad things to his   head.
he could be on the right trail as (I think) he posted that these guys weren't interacting.

Explain.

See above. I don't know about him, but I interacted with him as much as anyone else who wasn't a scumpick.

My D3 Questions:

TolyK: Welcome to LYLO. You've been rather active. Do you see a pattern in the NKs yet (if you can answer this without WIFOMing)? How are you going to approach this day?
Darvi: Oh no wait you're dead.
Akhier: So far I've seen you bandwagon a lot. You seem to have little reasoning of your own. Explain yourself.
Tyberix: I've seen token activity from you so far. You post with questions, but little reasoning of your own, and you seem to enjoy bandwagonning. Why is this? Why are you not being more active?
Zrk2: Though you have shown you do have some insight into this game, it is unfortunate that you are inactive. You rarely join a scumhunt argument, and your posts consist of only a few lines. Your "I'm busy" shield is failing. Explain yourself, and form at least five lines of reasoning for each of us.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 15, 2011, 08:39:53 am

   I have explained myself for the last one and the bandwagon
thing is hard to avoid when someone does something really
scumtastic. Everyone chose Super and Draze for about the
same reason. Its hard to make reasons that are different
when you are choosing them for the same reason everyone
else is.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 15, 2011, 09:16:16 am

Well, LYLO it is then , time to get the scum already!

Before i post my current scumpicks i got few questions:

Akhier: How many times do you want to carry on with no own investigation ? Another time you jumped on bus - no explanation,no questions - just go on with the bus. And by accident (or not?) both times it ended with dead town.

Lordincompoop Again somehow you're alive? See ,this isn't strange anymore, it's simply suspicious. And who were you suspecting yesterday ,and do Darvi/Draze's deaths changed your mind ?

Zrk2 If you have something to share about today deaths go ahead,few more words from you surely would make it easier to be sure you're scummy lurker...

TolyK How do you feel about the fact that we are in LYLO ?

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 08:35:26 am

[...]
Tyberix: I've seen token activity from you so far. You post with questions, but little reasoning of your own, and you seem to enjoy bandwagonning. Why is this? Why are you not being more active?
[...]

Well to be fair i haven't got clear view on the situation till the end of D2 so i hesitated from posting probably idiotic accusations. Also why do you suggest that i enjoy bandwagons ? Maybe i wasn't clear enough D2 but i was not happy about SaintDraze fate, he seemed to me rather like bad town who stops scumhunt on first signs of counterattack so i just left him by. Worst thing is that it would be hard to recognize between his scummy defense and desperate town defense.


Darvi death disturbs me,maybe scum got some more elaborate plan after all :|

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 2: chewie chews no more.
Post by: TolyK on February 15, 2011, 09:22:50 am

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 08:35:26 am

LYLO. Also sorry for not being speedy to reply last gameday, was Minecrafting.
Simply put, because there were bigger fish in the sea (is that how it goes?). I considered Super/Draze to be more scummy, and focused on those. This argument could just as easily be applied to you or other people, because I've been focusing quite a bit on just those people (it's called pressure, by the way).

Thanks for the mention though, I'll try to talk to other people more.

Understood.

Quote

See above. I don't know about him, but I interacted with him as much as anyone else who wasn't a scumpick.

My D3 Questions:

TolyK: Welcome to LYLO. You've been rather active. Do you see a pattern in the NKs yet (if you can answer this without WIFOMing)? How are you going to approach this day?

The order goes:
Supercharazard, Chewie.
Draze, Darvi.
The survivors:
TolyK, nincompoop, Tyberix, zrk2, akheir.

We lynched those who looked most scummy, they killed those who looked the least.
That's all I see.

I'll probably approach cautionary. So extend the day for maximum scum-finding time. LyLo we can't be inactive.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 15, 2011, 09:16:16 am

Well, LYLO it is then , time to get the scum already!

Before i post my current scumpicks i got few questions:

Akhier: How many times do you want to carry on with no own investigation ? Another time you jumped on bus - no explanation,no questions - just go on with the bus. And by accident (or not?) both times it ended with dead town.

Lordincompoop Again somehow you're alive? See ,this isn't strange anymore, it's simply suspicious. And who were you suspecting yesterday ,and do Darvi/Draze's deaths changed your mind ?

Good questions, interested in these myself.

Quote

TolyK How do you feel about the fact that we are in LYLO ?

Like I said, we need to be very careful and extend the day for more time.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 12:10:31 pm

Argembarger: Can you bring that LurkerTracker out again?

Quote from: Tyberix on February 15, 2011, 09:16:16 am

Lordincompoop Again somehow you're alive? See ,this isn't strange anymore, it's simply suspicious. And who were you suspecting yesterday ,and do Darvi/Draze's deaths changed your mind ?

lol look at me i am WIFOMing

My suspicions yesterday are irrelevant. Yes, I will have new suspects for D3.

Also, as for your question on D2: I though Draze was scummy yes, because a lot of his defenses were useless. A townclaim is an awful defense, no matter how you look at it. He defended himself using WIFOM also. If he was a better debater perhaps I would have thought otherwise.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 15, 2011, 12:15:26 pm

Sorry, I'm not really in a position to put up a lurkertracker now. I can post one tonight, though.

That said, I gave the 5 surviving players a quick look, nobody needs a prod.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 04:17:30 pm

Quote from: Argembarger on February 15, 2011, 12:15:26 pm

Sorry, I'm not really in a position to put up a lurkertracker now. I can post one tonight, though.

That said, I gave the 5 surviving players a quick look, nobody needs a prod.

I need the LurkerTracker for its organised posts, really. I found those very useful.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 04:19:24 pm

Also Irooni, any LYLO tips?

Don't think we used you much this game, so it's time to change that.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: IronyOwl on February 15, 2011, 04:29:56 pm

Don't get complacent. A lot of scum-victory lylos involve piling a few votes on someone vaguely scummy and then just sitting there in silence for half a day.

Pay very close attention to who everyone seems to want lynched and why. Scum know all the right targets.

Remember that you only outnumber scum by one vote. It's very unreliable to assume both scum will vote for the same target, but you don't have much margin of error.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 15, 2011, 05:44:53 pm

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LurkerTracker

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 15, 2011, 05:45:27 pm

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Replacements considered: Vector => Vector: IC, Unofficial; Toaster => Toaster: IC, Scum; Ottofar => The Ottofar; IronyOwl => IronyOwl: IC, Town.
The Morgue: SaintDraze: dead, normal town; Darvi: dead, normal town; chewie: dead, normal town; Supercharazad: dead, normal town.

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 05:48:33 pm

Do you mind if I take your opening post for the next Beginner's Mafia?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 15, 2011, 05:51:08 pm

Nope, be my guest.

TBH, I stole it to begin with, and just made a few modifications and additions of my own.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

Hello, I'm not certain how I can give five lines for each of you, but here goes my ideas/questions after reviewing the thread:

Ahkier: Pulls out WIFOM and doesn't feel bad for it. This only confuses everyone and obfuscates the thread, making it easier for scum.
Has those useful up-to-date voting recors. I can't see any scum going through all the trouble of compiling them.

TolyK: The only answer to some of your posts is 'WTF mate?'

Tyberix: He does an impressive job of not getting noticed. Doesn't get too into the scumhunt, but he questions off the top.

LNCP: He makes good point and seems to be the best scumhunter here, I doubt he's scummy.

I think TolyK and Tyberix are scum..

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 12:00:03 am

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

TolyK: The only answer to some of your posts is 'WTF mate?'

uh... what.
could you please point those out? I know I can get crypic at times but .... I don't get this.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 16, 2011, 01:58:24 pm

Are we going to play this game or am I going to rage-modkill everyone

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:02:04 pm

as you say, His Royal Townman Argembarger, Great Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bay12 Scumhunters.
...
ok then lets pick this apart some more:

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

Ahkier: Pulls out WIFOM and doesn't feel bad for it. This only confuses everyone and obfuscates the thread, making it easier for scum.
Has those useful up-to-date voting recors. I can't see any scum going through all the trouble of compiling them.

I could see really dedicated scum doing all that.

Quote

Tyberix: He does an impressive job of not getting noticed. Doesn't get too into the scumhunt, but he questions off the top.

I've actually not seen him ask many questions at all.

Quote

LNCP: He makes good point and seems to be the best scumhunter here, I doubt he's scummy.

Please show those points. I detect possible pairing.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 15, 2011, 09:16:16 am

Akhier: How many times do you want to carry on with no own investigation ? Another time you jumped on bus - no explanation,no questions - just go on with the bus. And by accident (or not?) both times it ended with dead town.

   My problem is that I have no "feel" for the game yet. My
guesses as to who is scum is non-existent and I truly did
feel that the ones we voted where scum. Yes the first time
I did jump on the bandwagon, congratulations you caught
me on my first game of mafia on the first day doing something
that could be scummy. Course then the second day once
I knew what not to do so did it right.

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

Ahkier: Pulls out WIFOM and doesn't feel bad for it. This only confuses everyone and obfuscates the thread, making it easier for scum.
Has those useful up-to-date voting recors. I can't see any scum going through all the trouble of compiling them.

   Sorry if something I said confused you. If I do so again
ask me and I probably can tell you what I actually meant.
I wine because someone hid the Mountain Dew on me. Once
I figure where everything is and how it is supposed to go
I will be less of a drunk.

   lordnincompoop: how do you feel that your team is
doing so far? Tell us how you feel about the game
please.

Spoiler: Up to date voting records (click to show/hide)

Quote

Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 0

lordnincompoop - 0

TolyK - 1 - Zrk2

Tyberix - 0

Darvi - 0

Zrk2 - 0
February 16, 2011
TolyK->Tyberix->08:40:41pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1983531#msg1983531)

Extension Votes - 1 - Tolyk

Spoiler: Dead Townies (click to show/hide)

Supercharazad - Day 1 Lynch - no ability's
chewie - Night 1 Mafia kill - no ability's
SaintDraze - Day 2 Lynch - no ability's

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:16:28 pm

tyberix get active. who should be spared?
nincompoop same to you.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

What the hell?

Akhier, tell me how you are not scum. You haven't had an active role in any major lynching debate so far, nor put any pressure or interrogated anyone in a serious manner. Most of the posts you do tend to be statements, detailing your suspicions or token contribution in a discussion you seem not to want to be a part of.

This is exceedingly suspicious to me, and rings of a scum harbouring conflicting desires to both be active and stay inconspicuous. Additionally, your activeness toward the end of the game has diminished, showing a scum that has relaxed his game knowing the win that is to come.

You've made a number of slips through out the game. This post is very suspicious:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:06:33 pm

   If Draze had not I would have actually. If you are good
at scum hunting what is to stop that from being good at
fake scum hunting. Once you are in the clear though you
would be someone to trust to properly hunt out the scum.

You openly admit to hunting good town, which goes directly against what this game is about. In pushing for good town lynches, you'd have a much easier time of winning the game as scum. It also shows very wishful thinking on your part, and is a rather blatant attempt to try to legitimise your actions and seem town-y by promising a resolution later.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:00:12 pm

   Okay everybody, Starting now it is officially square one!
Everything you thought happened is now null and void so
there never was chewie or super. This is the only way out
of WIFOM death spiral.

Here, you try to do two things: One, establish your position of authority amongst the us so that your chances of getting lynched will decrease. Two, you try to hurt the town by discouraging us from using potentially vital information from the previous days. Not subtle enough, Akhier.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:19:45 pm

[sarcasm]
   Darvi, nice of you to join us on this bandwagon so quickly
after I point out you had not voted!
[/sarcasm]

This is also suspicious, and very hypocritical to boot.  You criticise Darvi of bandwagonning almost immediately after you do so. You try to defame him at the same time you push the bandwagon toward the innocent town, pointing out his actions so that he may cover for your scumminess. To be a good town, it isn't enough to simply attack others for their mistakes; one must also obey the rules one sets. Here, you clearly have not done that.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 06:51:21 pm

   Darvi: Monkey monkey apples frog,  applesauce. Frog
apples monkey frog monkey!

What the hell is this? Looks like scum trying to play the Jester card and relieve some of the pressure he's feeling.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:41:00 pm

   Have any of you ever noticed that when you add
"technically" when you state a fact it sounds like your
lying. Technically I am not crazy!

There's a bunch of these spread out through the thread. As above, I'm suspecting scum playing Jester.

You are a confused scum, propelled in numerous directions by various forces. you try to be active but cannot, and you wish to lurk so as to remain inconspicuous. The result is a seemingly active player that posts much but says little. Now,  your lurking side seems to have come through. You are posting less and less as the game draws closer, when the town need to post the most.

PPE: Oh look posts.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:20:22 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:16:28 pm

tyberix get active. who should be spared?
nincompoop same to you.

I was making my argument. Quoting takes a long time.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

   lordnincompoop: how do you feel that your team is
doing so far? Tell us how you feel about the game
please.

What team? If you mean town, then I though we'd be in a better situation by now.

I am enjoying this game. It's been very active, and it's very fun playing. Perhaps some more posts at LYLO.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:44:02 pm

come on, people

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 16, 2011, 02:47:35 pm

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 3
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   TolyK (1) - Zrk2
//  |   Tyberix (1) - TolyK
//  |   lordnincompoop (1) - Akhier the Dragon hearted
//  |
//  |   Not voting (2) - Tyberix, Akhier the Dragon hearted
//  |   
//  |   Extend (1) - TolyK
//  |   2 players required to extend/shorten
//  |   
//  |   Day 3 Ends: Wednesday, February 16 @ 10:00 PM EST
//  |   
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:54:57 pm

extend NOW or we lose a lynching day

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 16, 2011, 03:23:28 pm

Extend

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 15, 2011, 09:16:16 am

Akhier: How many times do you want to carry on with no own investigation ? Another time you jumped on bus - no explanation,no questions - just go on with the bus. And by accident (or not?) both times it ended with dead town.

   My problem is that I have no "feel" for the game yet. My
guesses as to who is scum is non-existent and I truly did
feel that the ones we voted where scum. Yes the first time
I did jump on the bandwagon, congratulations you caught
me on my first game of mafia on the first day doing something
that could be scummy. Course then the second day once
I knew what not to do so did it right.

Claiming your newbieness is never an adequate reason. See what you did wrong, then correct it. Don't try to explain it, you just look scummy for doing it.

Quote

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

Ahkier: Pulls out WIFOM and doesn't feel bad for it. This only confuses everyone and obfuscates the thread, making it easier for scum.
Has those useful up-to-date voting recors. I can't see any scum going through all the trouble of compiling them.

   Sorry if something I said confused you. If I do so again
ask me and I probably can tell you what I actually meant.
I wine because someone hid the Mountain Dew on me. Once
I figure where everything is and how it is supposed to go
I will be less of a drunk.

What the hell? You make no sense.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 03:35:28 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:20:22 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:16:28 pm

tyberix get active. who should be spared?
nincompoop same to you.

I was making my argument. Quoting takes a long time.

understood

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 16, 2011, 03:38:01 pm

Extension has been granted.

Day 3 ends tomorrow, Thursday, February 17 @ 10:00 PM EST

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 16, 2011, 03:52:01 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:16:28 pm

tyberix get active. who should be spared?
nincompoop same to you.

I know i deserve it but, using vote to prod at this stage of the game is a bit unnerving,and i could say it may be even scummy.. Not sure what you mean about sparing anyone,if who i think is least scummy then it was akhier but few of  lordincompoop arguments are worth considering and my TolyK investigation turned few interesting things too...

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:02:04 pm

as you say, His Royal Townman Argembarger, Great Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bay12 Scumhunters.
...
ok then lets pick this apart some more:

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

Ahkier: Pulls out WIFOM and doesn't feel bad for it. This only confuses everyone and obfuscates the thread, making it easier for scum.
Has those useful up-to-date voting recors. I can't see any scum going through all the trouble of compiling them.

I could see really dedicated scum doing all that.

Quote

Tyberix: He does an impressive job of not getting noticed. Doesn't get too into the scumhunt, but he questions off the top.

I've actually not seen him ask many questions at all.

Quote

LNCP: He makes good point and seems to be the best scumhunter here, I doubt he's scummy.

Please show those points. I detect possible pairing.

This is not time for possibilities, we must be sure who we gonna lynch and why!

TolyK Are you sure you have anyone to attack or just jumping around aimlessly ?

After rereading the thread  i find some more of your disturbing habits :
1.Reactive behavior is good indicator of scum and what we have here ? Oh,right exactly that:

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 08:15:17 am

[...]

I haven't seen much to go on so far, and without concrete proof (read: corpse) I don't have much else to day. If something does happen I will jump right in.
[...]

Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:00:55 pm

posts please?
also feel free to question me.

Feeling guilty ?


2.Other slips :

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:11:10 am

[...]
***
Tyberix: it is scummy with supercharzard protecting himself through attacking attackers.
Same with lordnincompoop.


What I meant with that is folks lurking. nothing on them, and what currently is happening I've already worked out in my mind. in case you're wondering, I have a chart on paper of possible scumpals and keep updating. the current discussion isn't changing anything.
***
[...]

I thought it is basic way of town to prove his innocence,even with context of supercharazad? Also how it is possible that you got this all planned out,you know what your scumpartner is going to post or maybe you  know who is going to die at night ?

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 06:41:49 am

[...]
akhier has been very helpful, but that doesn't mean he's not scum. (sorry if you're town, but suspicion)
[...]

If you're scum you would know that he is ,apologizing him makes it sound like you're sure of it or maybe he's your scumpartner ?

Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 08:32:44 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:26:37 am

Okay I am back on now...
Am I about to get lynched again?

Yep.
I actually don't remember if I'm voting for you or not :P
Unvote for now until I'm sure.
How important is you dieing, SaintDraze, to you?

 It would be very scummy approach to voting TolyK, even it it wasn't vote thrown on bandwagon. This way it's doubly suspicious.

Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 12:54:32 pm

[...]
I looked over the thread. also I took into consideration what people said about stuff happening, I noticed details I hadn't noticed before.
[...]

You're master of not saying anything substantial without saying that you got nothing... Also great way to avoid questions about your reasons..

Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 03:33:31 pm

[...]
chewie has indeed been posting quite a bit lately, but that could mean he's very dangerous scum too...
[...]

Another case of high number of posts = scum, i don't want to descend into Wifomy madness but that could be reason behind NKs...

3.On both D1 and D2 you promised to post your scumpick but never really delivered except simple list on everybody without real reasoning on person you found most scummy.

4.I could post here all your "paste quote and say understood" posts but it will take too much place...They bring NOTHING to the discussion except your try to look active and towny!

Summarizing: TolyK you avoid stating your direct suspects , assaulting even one person after attack on you, do not state your reason , eagearly jump on bandwagon (but in this case it's minor thing), tend to answer as vague as possible about your scumhunt. Also apparently you got some unjustified "town feel" about akhier which you periodically need to rephrase without real reason.
Let's say it clear you're scum Tolyk!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Akhier, tell me how you are not scum. You haven't had an active role in any major lynching debate so far, nor put any pressure or interrogated anyone in a serious manner. Most of the posts you do tend to be statements, detailing your suspicions or token contribution in a discussion you seem not to want to be a part of.

This is exceedingly suspicious to me, and rings of a scum harbouring conflicting desires to both be active and stay inconspicuous. Additionally, your activeness toward the end of the game has diminished, showing a scum that has relaxed his game knowing the win that is to come.

   There has been NO lynching debate so far. All that has
happened is that someone messes up badly and everyone
goes "well he's scum" and vote for them. I just tried
putting pressure on you and yet
YOU   DID   NOT   ANSWER   MY   QUESTION   LORDNINCOMPOOP!

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

You've made a number of slips through out the game. This post is very suspicious:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 01:06:33 pm

   If Draze had not I would have actually. If you are good
at scum hunting what is to stop that from being good at
fake scum hunting. Once you are in the clear though you
would be someone to trust to properly hunt out the scum.

You openly admit to hunting good town, which goes directly against what this game is about. In pushing for good town lynches, you'd have a much easier time of winning the game as scum. It also shows very wishful thinking on your part, and is a rather blatant attempt to try to legitimise your actions and seem town-y by promising a resolution later.

   It went like this:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:57:35 pm

okay then I pick.... C.Darvi and his 'Stache Lordnincompoop and Tyberix...
both of you were scumhunting great...
Lordnincompoop&Tyberix:How many times have you questioned each other?

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

   Then my quote you use. Do you know what I am
still waiting on? Your answer to his question of when
you question him seeing as you say you did it "quite a bit".

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:00:12 pm

   Okay everybody, Starting now it is officially square one!
Everything you thought happened is now null and void so
there never was chewie or super. This is the only way out
of WIFOM death spiral.

Here, you try to do two things: One, establish your position of authority amongst the us so that your chances of getting lynched will decrease. Two, you try to hurt the town by discouraging us from using potentially vital information from the previous days. Not subtle enough, Akhier.

   Yes it was a bad thing to post and I appologized for
it and explained my reasoning:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:16:34 pm

   I misspoke about what I meant. The real meaning for
my words is that I want us to not consider chewie and
super at all except in terms of when someone talked to
them. Anyway even if we did reset right now as I said
with 2 less people the odds are better of hitting scum.
   We where going in rapidly tightening circles around
the meaning of chewies death so I was just like "well
then lets just not consider it" and back to square one
was the way I thought it through and not how it should
be done in reality.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 11, 2011, 07:19:45 pm

[sarcasm]
   Darvi, nice of you to join us on this bandwagon so quickly
after I point out you had not voted!
[/sarcasm]

This is also suspicious, and very hypocritical to boot.  You criticise Darvi of bandwagonning almost immediately after you do so. You try to defame him at the same time you push the bandwagon toward the innocent town, pointing out his actions so that he may cover for your scumminess. To be a good town, it isn't enough to simply attack others for their mistakes; one must also obey the rules one sets. Here, you clearly have not done that.

   I was suspicious about the fact that only 2 people
had withheld any opionion at all then as soon as I pointed
it out one of them immediatly voted.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 06:51:21 pm

   Darvi: Monkey monkey apples frog,  applesauce. Frog
apples monkey frog monkey!

What the hell is this? Looks like scum trying to play the Jester card and relieve some of the pressure he's feeling.

   I actually trully really do say such things in real
life. I tend to repeat the words most of the time and
in general it will either be "monkey", "apples", "frog",
or "applesauce" so this is more of a leaking over. I
mostly did it because of what Darvi posted before that:

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

   So I asked Darvi something very relevant in turn.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 06, 2011, 02:41:00 pm

   Have any of you ever noticed that when you add
"technically" when you state a fact it sounds like your
lying. Technically I am not crazy!

There's a bunch of these spread out through the thread. As above, I'm suspecting scum playing Jester.

You are a confused scum, propelled in numerous directions by various forces. you try to be active but cannot, and you wish to lurk so as to remain inconspicuous. The result is a seemingly active player that posts much but says little. Now,  your lurking side seems to have come through. You are posting less and less as the game draws closer, when the town need to post the most.

PPE: Oh look posts.

   I try not to double post even though it is allowed
in Mafia because of the no edit rule. In the begining
this was easy because it was very active but in the last
few days very few people have been posting, in fact it
has been so sparse the Mod asks if we where going to
play or if he should just rage-modkill everyone.

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 16, 2011, 03:23:28 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 15, 2011, 09:16:16 am

Akhier: How many times do you want to carry on with no own investigation ? Another time you jumped on bus - no explanation,no questions - just go on with the bus. And by accident (or not?) both times it ended with dead town.

...

Claiming your newbieness is never an adequate reason. See what you did wrong, then correct it. Don't try to explain it, you just look scummy for doing it.

   You where the one to first mention the time I went
wrong so how was I supposed to go about it? You specifically
called me out on it.

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 16, 2011, 03:23:28 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

...

   Sorry if something I said confused you. If I do so again
ask me and I probably can tell you what I actually meant.
I wine because someone hid the Mountain Dew on me. Once
I figure where everything is and how it is supposed to go
I will be less of a drunk.

What the hell? You make no sense.

   I was meaning that I am new at the game so what
I say will be confusing sometimes. If I am being confusing
call me out on it to explain.

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Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted - 1 - lordnincompoop
February 16, 2011
lordnincompoop->now

lordnincompoop - 0
February 16, 2011
Akhier_the_Dragon_hearted->02:17:37pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1985427#msg1985427)

TolyK - 2 - Tyberix and Zrk2
February 16, 2011
Tyberix->lordnincompoop->02:16:28pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1985422#msg1985422)

Tyberix - 1 - TolyK
February 16, 2011
TolyK->03:52:01pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1985741#msg1985741)

Darvi - 0

Zrk2 - 0
February 16, 2011
TolyK->Tyberix->08:40:41pm (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76566.msg1983531#msg1983531)

Extension Votes - 1 - Tolyk

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Supercharazad - Day 1 Lynch - no ability's
chewie - Night 1 Mafia kill - no ability's
SaintDraze - Day 2 Lynch - no ability's
Darvi - Night 2 Mafia kill - no ability's

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 16, 2011, 06:28:18 pm

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 07:12:15 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Akhier, tell me how you are not scum. You haven't had an active role in any major lynching debate so far, nor put any pressure or interrogated anyone in a serious manner. Most of the posts you do tend to be statements, detailing your suspicions or token contribution in a discussion you seem not to want to be a part of.

This is exceedingly suspicious to me, and rings of a scum harbouring conflicting desires to both be active and stay inconspicuous. Additionally, your activeness toward the end of the game has diminished, showing a scum that has relaxed his game knowing the win that is to come.

   There has been NO lynching debate so far. All that has
happened is that someone messes up badly and everyone
goes "well he's scum" and vote for them. I just tried
putting pressure on you and yet
YOU   DID   NOT   ANSWER   MY   QUESTION   LORDNINCOMPOOP!

Yes, there has been. It's all around you, and it's discussion. You should have taken a more active role in it.

What question is this that you are referring to? I see no such question.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

You've made a number of slips through out the game. This post is very suspicious:

You openly admit to hunting good town, which goes directly against what this game is about. In pushing for good town lynches, you'd have a much easier time of winning the game as scum. It also shows very wishful thinking on your part, and is a rather blatant attempt to try to legitimise your actions and seem town-y by promising a resolution later.

   It went like this:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:57:35 pm

okay then I pick.... C.Darvi and his 'Stache Lordnincompoop and Tyberix...
both of you were scumhunting great...
Lordnincompoop&Tyberix:How many times have you questioned each other?

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

   Then my quote you use. Do you know what I am
still waiting on? Your answer to his question of when
you question him seeing as you say you did it "quite a bit".

This is a non-answer and you know it. We're discussing your pushes for town lynches, not contexts for quotes or questions unanswered.

I'm sure you can give the thread another read-through for the posts. Additionally, in an attack the burden of proof is on you; it is your responsibility to find evidence and convict, not mine.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Here, you try to do two things: One, establish your position of authority amongst the us so that your chances of getting lynched will decrease. Two, you try to hurt the town by discouraging us from using potentially vital information from the previous days. Not subtle enough, Akhier.

   Yes it was a bad thing to post and I appologized for
it and explained my reasoning:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:16:34 pm

   I misspoke about what I meant. The real meaning for
my words is that I want us to not consider chewie and
super at all except in terms of when someone talked to
them. Anyway even if we did reset right now as I said
with 2 less people the odds are better of hitting scum.
   We where going in rapidly tightening circles around
the meaning of chewies death so I was just like "well
then lets just not consider it" and back to square one
was the way I thought it through and not how it should
be done in reality.

This to me does not adequately resolve the situation. It sounds like you've made a scumslip and hastily cobbled up an excuse to cover it up. What are you even trying to say? That we should ignore the impact that Super and Chewie have made? That we should ignore the questions and reactions that super and cheiwe posted and recieved? That we should simply ignore their deaths?

You're reiterating what you said earlier. And if it is the last, you're still left with an unclear, hasty correction and a null post. Why are you repeating something that was already established and implemented, then? It does no good, and you wasted precious time.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

What the hell is this? Looks like scum trying to play the Jester card and relieve some of the pressure he's feeling.

   I actually trully really do say such things in real
life. I tend to repeat the words most of the time and
in general it will either be "monkey", "apples", "frog",
or "applesauce" so this is more of a leaking over. I
mostly did it because of what Darvi posted before that:

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

   So I asked Darvi something very relevant in turn.

That still does not change it. Darvi's question was legitimate or at least coherent, whilst yours was not. Silly questions are useless as well, and if you find one you should point it out or admonish him, not make one of your own and clog up the thread.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

   I try not to double post even though it is allowed
in Mafia because of the no edit rule. In the begining
this was easy because it was very active but in the last
few days very few people have been posting, in fact it
has been so sparse the Mod asks if we where going to
play or if he should just rage-modkill everyone.

This is an awful excuse. Double posting should not stop you from participating in a thread. If in a period of inactivity, don't just wait for another post to appear; take the initiative and make another.

D2 was, in my opinion, plenty active. It's curious though how it just stopped.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 07:26:23 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

   lordnincompoop: how do you feel that your team is
doing so far? Tell us how you feel about the game
please.

   Also double posting to participate only works if others
are participating as well. I could have filled a couple pages
with my talking to myself but with no one else saying
anything it is no good at all. It takes 2 to tango buster.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 05:48:19 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 07:26:23 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

   lordnincompoop: how do you feel that your team is
doing so far? Tell us how you feel about the game
please.

   Also double posting to participate only works if others
are participating as well. I could have filled a couple pages
with my talking to myself but with no one else saying
anything it is no good at all. It takes 2 to tango buster.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:20:22 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 02:11:11 pm

   lordnincompoop: how do you feel that your team is
doing so far? Tell us how you feel about the game
please.

What team? If you mean town, then I though we'd be in a better situation by now.

I am enjoying this game. It's been very active, and it's very fun playing. Perhaps some more posts at LYLO.

You've addressed only one of my points so far, and it's one of the minor ones. You're being so quiet, Akhier.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

   Sorry I did not see your second post. The one I answered
is only minor if the longer something is the more minor it is
because the one I was so long as to hide your second post.

   As for the question I did not ask you to tell us your team
at all but the fact you had to hesitate and ask if I meant
town where the other person I asked this question to
anwered like so:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

and he was town. Also by quiet what do you mean! You and
me are the only players to post in the last 14 hours and with this post you
and me both have the same number of posts.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:05:02 am

   And boom, I now have 4 posts to your 3 posts in the
last 14 hours, does that mean I am more active then you?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 07:28:25 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

   As for the question I did not ask you to tell us your team
at all but the fact you had to hesitate and ask if I meant
town where the other person I asked this question to
anwered like so:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed and he was town.

What hesitation? I wanted something clarified, so I asked. Was that not what you wanted?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

Also by quiet what do you mean! You and
me are the only players to post in the last 14 hours and with this post you
and me both have the same number of posts.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:05:02 am

   And boom, I now have 4 posts to your 3 posts in the
last 14 hours, does that mean I am more active then you?

That's quite a reaction to a simple remark, isn't it?

Simply because everyone else is quiet(er) doesn't mean you are not. I haven't seen you make a single attack or non-defensive post this whole day, and the only vote you have made is little more than an OMGUS thrown in the heat.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 07:29:21 am

Bluh quote tags. Fixed:

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Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

   As for the question I did not ask you to tell us your team
at all but the fact you had to hesitate and ask if I meant
town where the other person I asked this question to
anwered like so:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed and he was town.

What hesitation? I wanted something clarified, so I asked. Was that not what you wanted?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

Also by quiet what do you mean! You and
me are the only players to post in the last 14 hours and with this post you
and me both have the same number of posts.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:05:02 am

   And boom, I now have 4 posts to your 3 posts in the
last 14 hours, does that mean I am more active then you?

That's quite a reaction to a simple remark, isn't it?

Simply because everyone else is quiet(er) doesn't mean you are not. I haven't seen you make a single attack or non-defensive post this whole day, and the only vote you have made is little more than an OMGUS thrown in the heat.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 07:31:51 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

   Sorry I did not see your second post. The one I answered
is only minor if the longer something is the more minor it is
because the one I was so long as to hide your second post.

Akhier you attack him for posting long evidence ? And since when that's bad thing ?

Also lordincompoop

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 07:12:15 pm

I'm sure you can give the thread another read-through for the posts. Additionally, in an attack the burden of proof is on you; it is your responsibility to find evidence and convict, not mine.

If not finding evidence then what is your responsibility ? I thought that's what town do,unless you're scum ?

Well i'm still stand by my vote if you ask of my activity

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:34:35 am

   lordnincompoop, I have been attacking you sir. I am
going with you are scum and I believe this because of
a number of things that have been brought up. You as
well have been attacking Me so do not try that. You
are voting for me and I am voting for you and this is
the most actual debate on lynching the whole game.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:36:08 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 07:31:51 am

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

   Sorry I did not see your second post. The one I answered
is only minor if the longer something is the more minor it is
because the one I was so long as to hide your second post.

Akhier you attack him for posting long evidence ? And since when that's bad thing ?

   I am not attacking him for having long evidence. I simply
said that I did not see the second post under the first post
which was long.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

You answered. Unvote.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 16, 2011, 03:52:01 pm

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:16:28 pm

tyberix get active. who should be spared?
nincompoop same to you.

I know i deserve it but, using vote to prod at this stage of the game is a bit unnerving,and i could say it may be even scummy..

I certainly don't feel that way. When I'm inactive I get what I deserve: people shouting my name, threatening to kill me if I don't show up and talk.

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Not sure what you mean about sparing anyone,if who i think is least scummy then it was akhier but few of  lordincompoop arguments are worth considering and my TolyK investigation turned few interesting things too...

Oh, let's see...

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Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2011, 02:02:04 pm

ok then lets pick this apart some more:

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 15, 2011, 08:40:41 pm

Ahkier: Pulls out WIFOM and doesn't feel bad for it. This only confuses everyone and obfuscates the thread, making it easier for scum.
Has those useful up-to-date voting recors. I can't see any scum going through all the trouble of compiling them.

I could see really dedicated scum doing all that.

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Tyberix: He does an impressive job of not getting noticed. Doesn't get too into the scumhunt, but he questions off the top.

I've actually not seen him ask many questions at all.

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LNCP: He makes good point and seems to be the best scumhunter here, I doubt he's scummy.

Please show those points. I detect possible pairing.

This is not time for possibilities, we must be sure who we gonna lynch and why!

You mean we should just get it over with? ScumCounter++

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TolyK Are you sure you have anyone to attack or just jumping around aimlessly ?

It's fairly hard to decide who to attack. I want more answers from multiple people.

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After rereading the thread  i find some more of your disturbing habits :
1.Reactive behavior is good indicator of scum and what we have here ? Oh,right exactly that:

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 10:58:18 am

::)
waiting until something productive starts happening...

"I don't see anything interesting in terms of new posts. I've gotten stuff and haven't got more."

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Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 08:15:17 am

[...]

I haven't seen much to go on so far, and without concrete proof (read: corpse) I don't have much else to day. If something does happen I will jump right in.
[...]

... yeah, and I did, didn't I?

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Quote from: TolyK on February 09, 2011, 01:00:55 pm

posts please?
also feel free to question me.

Feeling guilty ?

What. I'm asking folks to question me so I could see what folks want. Questions are great for finding potential scum-slips.
Oh, and thanks for the questions BTW.

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2.Other slips :

Quote from: TolyK on February 06, 2011, 11:11:10 am

[...]
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Tyberix: it is scummy with supercharzard protecting himself through attacking attackers.
Same with lordnincompoop.

What I meant with that is folks lurking. nothing on them, and what currently is happening I've already worked out in my mind. in case you're wondering, I have a chart on paper of possible scumpals and keep updating. the current discussion isn't changing anything.
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[...]

I thought it is basic way of town to prove his innocence,even with context of supercharazad?

Maybe. However it seems that someone may have known he was innocent? ScumCounter++

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Also how it is possible that you got this all planned out,you know what your scumpartner is going to post or maybe you  know who is going to die at night ?

If a person I (unsuccessfully) try to lynch gets nightkilled, I'd be surprised.
My "plan" is a network of possible relations. I would take a picture of it on paper, but my camera is currently with a friend.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 06:41:49 am

[...]
akhier has been very helpful, but that doesn't mean he's not scum. (sorry if you're town, but suspicion)
[...]

If you're scum you would know that he is ,apologizing him makes it sound like you're sure of it or maybe he's your scumpartner ?

please explain this. I've reread it 5 times and still haven't got it. If he was "my scumpartner", why would I say the stuff in italics above to him?

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Quote from: TolyK on February 07, 2011, 08:32:44 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 07, 2011, 08:26:37 am

Okay I am back on now...
Am I about to get lynched again?

Yep.
I actually don't remember if I'm voting for you or not :P
Unvote for now until I'm sure.
How important is you dieing, SaintDraze, to you?

 It would be very scummy approach to voting TolyK, even it it wasn't vote thrown on bandwagon. This way it's doubly suspicious.

That... wasn't voting maybe? He was gonna die anyway and I wanted to possibly get other targets. Also, how would it be "doubly suspicious"?

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Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 12:54:32 pm

[...]
I looked over the thread. also I took into consideration what people said about stuff happening, I noticed details I hadn't noticed before.
[...]

You're master of not saying anything substantial without saying that you got nothing... Also great way to avoid questions about your reasons..

That was a post I wrote late in the night, I meant to say something in the morning but forgot.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 08, 2011, 03:33:31 pm

[...]
chewie has indeed been posting quite a bit lately, but that could mean he's very dangerous scum too...
[...]

Another case of high number of posts = scum, i don't want to descend into Wifomy madness but that could be reason behind NKs...

Exactly my thoughts.

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3.On both D1 and D2 you promised to post your scumpick but never really delivered except simple list on everybody without real reasoning on person you found most scummy.

That's because I'm horrible with contrete reason  :P in

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4.I could post here all your "paste quote and say understood" posts but it will take too much place...They bring NOTHING to the discussion except your try to look active and towny!

Uh, I was saying that I got their question and have nothing from their posts to use against them.

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Summarizing: TolyK you avoid stating your direct suspects , assaulting even one person after attack on you, do not state your reason , eagearly jump on bandwagon (but in this case it's minor thing), tend to answer as vague as possible about your scumhunt. Also apparently you got some unjustified "town feel" about akhier which you periodically need to rephrase without real reason.

the bold: what the hell? where did you get any of those from? akhier hasn't posted anything I considered scummy As Of Your Post (I got ninja'd...) and so I have less reason to think he's scum. you are contradicting yourself, saying that I don't assault then saying I assault everyone? ScumCounter++
the italics: yes. this is because this game has me very confused and there's no complete bait. whoever is scum is doing it very well.

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Let's say it clear you're scum Tolyk!

... you may be in a glass case, but that glass is green.  ;)
...
Ninja'd by Akheir and Co., let me see...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 08:00:21 am

Quote from: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 07:31:51 am

Also lordincompoop

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 07:12:15 pm

I'm sure you can give the thread another read-through for the posts. Additionally, in an attack the burden of proof is on you; it is your responsibility to find evidence and convict, not mine.

If not finding evidence then what is your responsibility ? I thought that's what town do,unless you're scum ?

Well i'm still stand by my vote if you ask of my activity

It is not my responsibility to find evidence for others' attacks directed at myself. That is the responsibility of the attacker.

My responsibility is to find my own evidence for my own attacks and use them in hunting scum, as should be everyone's responsibility.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:34:35 am

lordnincompoop, I have been attacking you sir. I am going with you are scum and I believe this because of a number of things that have been brought up.

I read through your posts. They are without a doubt defense-oriented. The only reason you've voted for me was because you happened to overlook an answer I wrote.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:34:35 am

You as well have been attacking Me so do not try that. You are voting for me and I am voting for you and this is the most actual debate on lynching the whole game.

I'm having a bit of a problem understanding what you're saying here, because of the lack of context. Are you referring to the OMGUS?

I don't see where my attack on you has anything to do with any of this. I believe I bring up good points, and so far you haven't made any in your counter. Your vote, as I see it, is an OMGUS.

_{You know, maybe I should have made a shippingscumchart. Ah well, Next time.}

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 10:18:07 am

Just a notice : i decided to cut the quotes to minimum for the sake of readability,these quote pyramids are distracting.

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

You mean we should just get it over with? ScumCounter++

No i mean voting for someone who you're not sure about (or if you have 2 suspect and can't decide who is scummier) is very dangerous in this stage of the game.And "get over with it"  is rather on your side since you still limit yourself to  prod-voting and defense?

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

It's fairly hard to decide who to attack. I want more answers from multiple people.

Why you're not asking then ?

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

"I don't see anything interesting in terms of new posts. I've gotten stuff and haven't got more."

And that's the precise problem: if you don't have anything interesting,asking question is first thing that comes to mind ,but as scum why would you stir others when you can wait for them to attack themselves  ?

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

Maybe. However it seems that someone may have known he was innocent? ScumCounter++

I know now ,and i'm putting it to use,that's the why i point it out.That's the primary information from his death:who seemed to know it or used that information before it was public, everything else is probably WIFOM.

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

If a person I (unsuccessfully) try to lynch gets nightkilled, I'd be surprised.

Why? Are you 100% certain of all your picks ? Or maybe you KNOW who that gonna be ?

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

please explain this. I've reread it 5 times and still haven't got it. If he was "my scumpartner", why would I say the stuff in italics above to him?

OK,bad wording i agree. There's only 2 options why would you apologize for attacking :
a)You're scum and you know that he's town
b)You're scum and his your scumpartner so you want to not press too much and confirm his towniness in non-direct way

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

the bold: what the hell? where did you get any of those from? akhier hasn't posted anything I considered scummy As Of Your Post (I got ninja'd...) and so I have less reason to think he's scum. you are contradicting yourself, saying that I don't assault then saying I assault everyone? ScumCounter++
the italics: yes. this is because this game has me very confused and there's no complete bait. whoever is scum is doing it very well.

I fail to see where i say that you assault everyone ? The bandwagon part is not very important since bot D1 and D2 lynches were agreed upon nearly everybody,but anyway that's minor scumtell for me anyway.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 17, 2011, 10:22:19 am

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//  |   TolyK (2) - Zrk2, Tyberix
//  |   Akhier the Dragon hearted (1) - lordnincompoop
//  |   lordnincompoop (1) - Akhier the Dragon hearted
//  |
//  |   Not voting (1) - TolyK
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//  |   Extend (0)
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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 10:26:16 am

Quote from: Argembarger on February 17, 2011, 10:22:19 am

*Voting*

Darn. I'm leaving for a while, so I need to extend.
Someone else please do it too.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 01:30:31 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 10:18:07 am

Just a notice : i decided to cut the quotes to minimum for the sake of readability,these quote pyramids are distracting.

That's fine.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

You mean we should just get it over with? ScumCounter++

No i mean voting for someone who you're not sure about (or if you have 2 suspect and can't decide who is scummier) is very dangerous in this stage of the game.And "get over with it"  is rather on your side since you still limit yourself to  prod-voting and defense?

Nope. I have gotten enough info by doing just that and intend to show that in my next post.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

It's fairly hard to decide who to attack. I want more answers from multiple people.

Why you're not asking then ?

Wait for it, it will be in my next post.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

"I don't see anything interesting in terms of new posts. I've gotten stuff and haven't got more."

And that's the precise problem: if you don't have anything interesting,asking question is first thing that comes to mind ,but as scum why would you stir others when you can wait for them to attack themselves  ?

I'm a busy person. I actually have a real life (not that you don't either) and I don't have much time in it. Thus my "psuedo-activeness".

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

Maybe. However it seems that someone may have known he was innocent? ScumCounter++

I know now ,and i'm putting it to use,that's the why i point it out.That's the primary information from his death:who seemed to know it or used that information before it was public, everything else is probably WIFOM.

exactly.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

If a person I (unsuccessfully) try to lynch gets nightkilled, I'd be surprised.

Why? Are you 100% certain of all your picks ? Or maybe you KNOW who that gonna be ?

Shit. I just realized the maffers are gonna pick my scumpick D:.
I haven't the slightest idea, but I  can guess: my target.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

please explain this. I've reread it 5 times and still haven't got it. If he was "my scumpartner", why would I say the stuff in italics above to him?

OK,bad wording i agree. There's only 2 options why would you apologize for attacking :
a)You're scum and you know that he's town
b)You're scum and his your scumpartner so you want to not press too much and confirm his towniness in non-direct way

That makes sense now, thanks. also: why would I say he's town? Reasoning.Good=False.

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Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

the bold: what the hell? where did you get any of those from? akhier hasn't posted anything I considered scummy As Of Your Post (I got ninja'd...) and so I have less reason to think he's scum. you are contradicting yourself, saying that I don't assault then saying I assault everyone? ScumCounter++
the italics: yes. this is because this game has me very confused and there's no complete bait. whoever is scum is doing it very well.

I fail to see where i say that you assault everyone ? The bandwagon part is not very important since bot D1 and D2 lynches were agreed upon nearly everybody,but anyway that's minor scumtell for me anyway.

You basically said that I attack anyone who attacks me. This is not true. Am I attacking you and starting a firefight? Nope.
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Damn. Next post: reasons why I think that Nincompoop is scum.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 17, 2011, 01:42:21 pm

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//  |   TolyK (2) - Zrk2, Tyberix
//  |   Akhier the Dragon hearted (1) - lordnincompoop
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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 01:44:52 pm

5.5 hours left, right? or 6.5?
hold on...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 17, 2011, 02:00:38 pm

8 hours, actually.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 17, 2011, 03:22:46 pm

Unvote, vote Ahkier, so much of what you have said makes no sense and is just chasing yourself around in circles, all while trying to appear active.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:27:27 pm

damn votes are tied. that means someone has to vote or extend.
also: zrk2, agreed, I get that feeling too. Could you please point those out though?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:29:23 pm

My explanation:

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 07:12:15 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Akhier, tell me how you are not scum. You haven't had an active role in any major lynching debate so far, nor put any pressure or interrogated anyone in a serious manner. Most of the posts you do tend to be statements, detailing your suspicions or token contribution in a discussion you seem not to want to be a part of.

This is exceedingly suspicious to me, and rings of a scum harbouring conflicting desires to both be active and stay inconspicuous. Additionally, your activeness toward the end of the game has diminished, showing a scum that has relaxed his game knowing the win that is to come.

   There has been NO lynching debate so far. All that has
happened is that someone messes up badly and everyone
goes "well he's scum" and vote for them. I just tried
putting pressure on you and yet
YOU   DID   NOT   ANSWER   MY   QUESTION   LORDNINCOMPOOP!

Yes, there has been. It's all around you, and it's discussion. You should have taken a more active role in it.

What question is this that you are referring to? I see no such question.

It seems that you are the one who isn't taking much into the lynching discussion. It's more accusing people with little evidence.

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Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

You've made a number of slips through out the game. This post is very suspicious:

You openly admit to hunting good town ((TolyK note: WHAT?)), which goes directly against what this game is about. In pushing for good town lynches, you'd have a much easier time of winning the game as scum. It also shows very wishful thinking on your part, and is a rather blatant attempt to try to legitimise your actions and seem town-y by promising a resolution later.

   It went like this:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 12:57:35 pm

okay then I pick.... C.Darvi and his 'Stache Lordnincompoop and Tyberix...
both of you were scumhunting great...
Lordnincompoop&Tyberix:How many times have you questioned each other?

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 09, 2011, 01:00:03 pm

You're voting me because I'm good? What?

I'm pretty sure I questioned Tyberix quite a bit, just as much as the rest of you peeps. He's kinda invisible though, it's easy to forget.

   Then my quote you use. Do you know what I am
still waiting on? Your answer to his question of when
you question him seeing as you say you did it "quite a bit".

This is a non-answer and you know it. We're discussing your pushes for town lynches, not contexts for quotes or questions unanswered.

You mean you're purposefully ignoring questions? You are right about him constantly pushing for lunching town members for bad playing.

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I'm sure you can give the thread another read-through for the posts. Additionally, in an attack the burden of proof is on you; it is your responsibility to find evidence and convict, not mine.

You mean he has to attack you with his quotes? Nevermind that, I just don't get what you mean here.

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Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Here, you try to do two things: One, establish your position of authority amongst the us so that your chances of getting lynched will decrease. Two, you try to hurt the town by discouraging us from using potentially vital information from the previous days. Not subtle enough, Akhier.

   Yes it was a bad thing to post ((TolyK note: WHAT? you don't make yourself look weak in mafia. potential scumslip.)) and I appologized ((TolyK Note: This too)) for
it and explained my reasoning:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 03:16:34 pm

   I misspoke about what I meant. The real meaning for
my words is that I want us to not consider chewie and
super at all except in terms of when someone talked to
them. Anyway even if we did reset right now as I said
with 2 less people the odds are better of hitting scum.
   We where going in rapidly tightening circles around
the meaning of chewies death so I was just like "well
then lets just not consider it" and back to square one
was the way I thought it through and not how it should
be done in reality.

This to me does not adequately resolve the situation. It sounds like you've made a scumslip and hastily cobbled up an excuse to cover it up. ((This I agree with.)) What are you even trying to say? That we should ignore the impact that Super and Chewie have made? That we should ignore the questions and reactions that super and cheiwe posted and recieved? That we should simply ignore their deaths?

You're reiterating what you said earlier. And if it is the last, you're still left with an unclear, hasty correction and a null post. Why are you repeating something that was already established and implemented, then? It does no good, and you wasted precious time. ((he however meant, I think, that their deaths are only to confuse us. even the TownIC said that, where you were I don't know))

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

What the hell is this? Looks like scum trying to play the Jester card and relieve some of the pressure he's feeling.

   I actually trully really do say such things in real
life. I tend to repeat the words most of the time and
in general it will either be "monkey", "apples", "frog",
or "applesauce" so this is more of a leaking over. I
mostly did it because of what Darvi posted before that:

Quote from: Darvi on February 09, 2011, 06:24:40 pm

Tolyk: How old are you?

Yes, this is very relevant to the game, why do you ask? :P

   So I asked Darvi something very relevant in turn.

That still does not change it. Darvi's question was legitimate or at least coherent, whilst yours was not. Silly questions are useless as well, and if you find one you should point it out or admonish him, not make one of your own and clog up the thread.

Relax, they were just having fun. This is a "game" of mafia. ;)

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Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

   I try not to double post even though it is allowed
in Mafia because of the no edit rule. In the begining
this was easy because it was very active but in the last
few days very few people have been posting, in fact it
has been so sparse the Mod asks if we where going to
play or if he should just rage-modkill everyone.

This is an awful excuse. Double posting should not stop you from participating in a thread. If in a period of inactivity, don't just wait for another post to appear; take the initiative and make another.

Double-posting can both help the thread and clutter it up. This argument is basically useless.

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D2 was, in my opinion, plenty active. It's curious though how it just stopped.

Why not look through it and see?
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It seems that there was a lot of bandwagoning, joking, and partially-pointless attacking/flaming.
You however were semi-productive, though some posts looked a little cyclic.
***

Quote from: Argembarger on February 17, 2011, 02:00:38 pm

8 hours, actually.

Cool. I'll still be asleep lol. We must x-tend.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 04:40:49 pm

   Extend, A tie is guaranteed loss for town so we need to
break it somehow.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 04:46:25 pm

Ah, finally. Hopefully I didn't break anything in the post this time. Also Extend, I think we'll need it. This is LYLO, after all.

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:29:23 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 07:12:15 pm

Yes, there has been. It's all around you, and it's discussion. You should have taken a more active role in it.

What question is this that you are referring to? I see no such question.

It seems that you are the one who isn't taking much into the lynching discussion. It's more accusing people with little evidence.

Could you clarify this? I'm not really seeing what you're saying here.

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:29:23 pm

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This is a non-answer and you know it. We're discussing your pushes for town lynches, not contexts for quotes or questions unanswered.

You mean you're purposefully ignoring questions? You are right about him constantly pushing for lunching town members for bad playing.

No, I am not ignoring questions. That's just a result of bad wording.

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:29:23 pm

Quote

I'm sure you can give the thread another read-through for the posts. Additionally, in an attack the burden of proof is on you; it is your responsibility to find evidence and convict, not mine.

You mean he has to attack you with his quotes? Nevermind that, I just don't get what you mean here.

When you attack someone, it's your job to find arguments for it. You don't ask the person to find arguments to convict himself with.

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:29:23 pm

Quote

This to me does not adequately resolve the situation. It sounds like you've made a scumslip and hastily cobbled up an excuse to cover it up. ((This I agree with.)) What are you even trying to say? That we should ignore the impact that Super and Chewie have made? That we should ignore the questions and reactions that super and cheiwe posted and recieved? That we should simply ignore their deaths?

You're reiterating what you said earlier. And if it is the last, you're still left with an unclear, hasty correction and a null post. Why are you repeating something that was already established and implemented, then? It does no good, and you wasted precious time. ((he however meant, I think, that their deaths are only to confuse us. even the TownIC said that, where you were I don't know))

...

That still does not change it. Darvi's question was legitimate or at least coherent, whilst yours was not. Silly questions are useless as well, and if you find one you should point it out or admonish him, not make one of your own and clog up the thread.

Relax, they were just having fun. This is a "game" of mafia. ;)

I maintain my point. Mafia is srs bsns m8

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 03:29:23 pm

Quote

This is an awful excuse. Double posting should not stop you from participating in a thread. If in a period of inactivity, don't just wait for another post to appear; take the initiative and make another.

Double-posting can both help the thread and clutter it up. This argument is basically useless.

I'm discussing his unwillingness to post simply because "double posting is baaaaaaaad". Of course it can go either way, but if it's preventing you from playing I say it's time to break the rule.

Quote from: TolyKNotes

((he however meant, I think, that their deaths are only to confuse us. even the TownIC said that, where you were I don't know))

Arrite, fair enough. Where I was at that point in time was trying to stop all the WIFOM.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

   lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted
for me. I had not even FoSed you. I asked you a question
and from that question I received a long post of quotes
that where explained already in the past before you even
bothered to answer my question. If you had not done
that I would not have even voted for you. I was trying
to illicit a reaction and boy did you ever react. Now here
is a question, If I was asked a question and the first thing
I did was post a great number of quotes by the other
person and accused them of being scum before I even
got around to answer the question what would that look
like? Yes a lot of what I have said to you recently has
been defensive but how could it not when the response
to anything I said was re-saying what I had said and
accusing me being scum for saying it.

   I believe you are scum because your response to
the questions we ask you has been derision of our
questions and accusations.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 05:34:08 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

   lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted
for me. I had not even FoSed you.

You suggest that every vote should be in response to another :o ?

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 01:30:31 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 10:18:07 am

Quote from: TolyK on February 17, 2011, 07:57:31 am

please explain this. I've reread it 5 times and still haven't got it. If he was "my scumpartner", why would I say the stuff in italics above to him?

OK,bad wording i agree. There's only 2 options why would you apologize for attacking :
a)You're scum and you know that he's town
b)You're scum and his your scumpartner so you want to not press too much and confirm his towniness in non-direct way

That makes sense now, thanks. also: why would I say he's town? Reasoning.Good=False.

You telling me that scum wants their partner lynched ? Or that scum never want to help their partner ?

As for attacking everyone, it's just  my bad English taking revenge on me : i meant that you don't retaliate even when your questions are avoided or turned into attack onto you, instead you disperse your assault on few fronts and that's what i had in mind.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:36:43 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 05:34:08 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

   lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted
for me. I had not even FoSed you.

You suggest that every vote should be in response to another :o ?

   I was mostly just pointing out that his over reaction
to me asking him questions was exactly that and not
a reaction to something like me randomly voting for him
or what not.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 05:56:47 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted for me. I had not even FoSed you. I asked you a question and from that question I received a long post of quotes that where explained already in the past before you even bothered to answer my question. If you had not done that I would not have even voted for you. I was trying to illicit a reaction and boy did you ever react.

From the information I had gathered, you were the most likely scum. I posted with that information. Whatever question you are referring to, it is irrelevant; not all posts are reactionary.

If you want me to clarify even further, it goes like this: I made that post during the quiet period, so I had nothing I could react to. My "What the hell" remark was to the lurkiness. There's a reason I left a PPE mentioning ninjas at the bottom.

I called it an OMGUS because you voted for me immediately after my attack (in caps lock, no less) without providing adequate reasons.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

Now here is a question, If I was asked a question and the first thing I did was post a great number of quotes by the other person and accused them of being scum before I even got around to answer the question what would that look like? Yes a lot of what I have said to you recently has been defensive but how could it not when the response to anything I said was re-saying what I had said and accusing me being scum for saying it.

I believe you are scum because your response to the questions we ask you has been derision of our questions and accusations.

See above. My post was not a reaction; your argument is invalid.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 17, 2011, 11:17:06 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

   lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted
for me. I had not even FoSed you.

So you endorse OMGUSes?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 03:15:46 am

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 17, 2011, 11:17:06 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

   lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted
for me. I had not even FoSed you.

So you endorse OMGUSes?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:36:43 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 17, 2011, 05:34:08 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 05:05:35 pm

   lordnincompoop, I did not vote for you first. You voted
for me. I had not even FoSed you.

You suggest that every vote should be in response to another :o ?

   I was mostly just pointing out that his over reaction
to me asking him questions was exactly that and not
a reaction to something like me randomly voting for him
or what not.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 18, 2011, 11:03:36 am

Nice scumcover.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 18, 2011, 12:22:40 pm

Seems the votes are tied for Lordincompoop and Ahkier so few question to you both :

How do you think we should solve this problem ? State who do you think is parter of who you vote for. Why i shouldn't vote for you ?
Since tie is equal to lose whose vote you find least reasonable ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 18, 2011, 01:49:26 pm

Quote from: Zrk2 on February 18, 2011, 11:03:36 am

Nice scumcover.

agreed.
...
zrk2 other than akhier who do you think would be his scumpartner?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 18, 2011, 03:27:36 pm

Likely Tyberix, but possibly you.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: TolyK on February 18, 2011, 03:30:14 pm

There's this nagging feeling that akheir and lordnincompoop may be bussing.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 03:32:36 pm

   I want to say Zrk2 is my other choice but honestly
I am probably biased from him going after me as well.
I do not really have a feel for anyone else at the moment.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 18, 2011, 05:09:41 pm

Few more direct questions ( i still want to hear answers on previous ):

Lordnincompoop: How it is possible so much of your answers to akhier question are just rephrasing of your previous attack on him ?

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 05:56:47 pm

From the information I had gathered, you were the most likely scum. I posted with that information. Whatever question you are referring to, it is irrelevant; not all posts are reactionary.
[...]
See above. My post was not a reaction; your argument is invalid.

Question's aren't irrelevant if they are pointed towards your own line of attack. How would you react on non-coherent attack ? Ignore it ?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:17:37 pm

Akhier, tell me how you are not scum. You haven't had an active role in any major lynching debate so far, nor put any pressure or interrogated anyone in a serious manner. Most of the posts you do tend to be statements, detailing your suspicions or token contribution in a discussion you seem not to want to be a part of.

This is exceedingly suspicious to me, and rings of a scum harbouring conflicting desires to both be active and stay inconspicuous. Additionally, your activeness toward the end of the game has diminished, showing a scum that has relaxed his game knowing the win that is to come.

   There has been NO lynching debate so far. All that has
happened is that someone messes up badly and everyone
goes "well he's scum" and vote for them. I just tried
putting pressure on you and yet
YOU   DID   NOT   ANSWER   MY   QUESTION   LORDNINCOMPOOP!

How could there be no lynching debate if there were 2 lynches,maybe debate was kind of one sided but that's why everybody should take part in it - to not lynch town,distancing yourself from it isn't good move. Also how you put pressure first time since - there was no vote or even direct question about scummines ? This looks like you are forging the history to suit you akhier...

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 16, 2011, 04:58:56 pm

You where the one to first mention the time I went
wrong so how was I supposed to go about it? You specifically
called me out on it.

Not sure why you think calling out your mistakes is bad thing ? Unless you don't want them to make you look scummy.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 17, 2011, 07:03:41 am

   Sorry I did not see your second post. The one I answered
is only minor if the longer something is the more minor it is
because the one I was so long as to hide your second post.

   As for the question I did not ask you to tell us your team
at all but the fact you had to hesitate and ask if I meant
town where the other person I asked this question to
anwered like so:

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 09, 2011, 05:47:07 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 09, 2011, 05:03:51 pm

   SaintDraze: Tell me how you think the game is going
for your team so far. In detail please.

Not very good since whatever benefit we got from lynching super we no doubt lost from chewie getting NKed

and he was town. Also by quiet what do you mean! You and
me are the only players to post in the last 14 hours and with this post you
and me both have the same number of posts.

This one is also bothering me... You say that this SaintDraze answer made you sure he's town (and you still voted him ?) because he didn't asked about whose team are you on ?

Also posting only your quotes from past makes me think you don't want to add more possible slips,even if question's are little different i think you should answer with at least one sentence.And does your first vote on Lordnincompoop was prodding one and you leaved it here because of his response or it was intentional attack ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Argembarger on February 18, 2011, 05:15:28 pm

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Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 05:21:52 pm

   As I said to lordnincompoop, it takes 2 to tango and
when it came down to the wire everyone agreed on
super and saint and they both sorta rolled over and
died. It is not a debate if there is only one side.
   I did not say that Saints answer made me think he
was town, I said that because he turned out to be
town I believe that lordnincompoop's answer is suspicious.
I only have 5 guarantees at this moment. Who I am, who
Supercharazad is, who chewie is, who SaintDraze is, and
finally who Darvi is.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 18, 2011, 06:41:07 pm

Quote from: Tyberix on February 18, 2011, 12:22:40 pm

Seems the votes are tied for Lordincompoop and Ahkier so few question to you both :

How do you think we should solve this problem ? State who do you think is parter of who you vote for. Why i shouldn't vote for you ?
Since tie is equal to lose whose vote you find least reasonable ?

Misspelled both names. XD

Well, we need a tiebreaker, don't we? Someone to break this vote before we all die.

I'm going to have to do so more research, but I'm going to bet TolyK's the scumpartner. They've not questioned each other or drawn much suspicion on each other, as far as I can tell.

You should have gotten a read on me through the past few days, and if your investigation is lacking you can only blame yourself. I'm not going to make an appeal to emotions, because those don't work in forum Mafias and only serve to make someone look scummier.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 18, 2011, 05:09:41 pm

Few more direct questions ( i still want to hear answers on previous ):

Lordnincompoop: How it is possible so much of your answers to akhier question are just rephrasing of your previous attack on him ?

What questions? I'm sure what you're referring to here. Clarify.

Quote from: Tyberix on February 18, 2011, 05:09:41 pm

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 17, 2011, 05:56:47 pm

From the information I had gathered, you were the most likely scum. I posted with that information. Whatever question you are referring to, it is irrelevant; not all posts are reactionary.
[...]
See above. My post was not a reaction; your argument is invalid.

Question's aren't irrelevant if they are pointed towards your own line of attack. How would you react on non-coherent attack ? Ignore it ?

In this case it is, because the basis of his counter (emotions) are only the result of evil ninjas. Writing attacks takes a long time, ya know.

As when faced with any attack, I would respond and counter it to the best of my ability. I don't ignore attacks; that's bad form.

Quote from: Argembarger on February 18, 2011, 05:15:28 pm

Just a friendly reminder that there are only 5 hours left.

BLUH

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 03:32:36 pm

\
I want to say Zrk2 is my other choice but honestly I am probably biased from him going after me as well. I do not really have a feel for anyone else at the moment.

Eh, why not?

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 05:21:52 pm

I did not say that Saints answer made me think he was town, I said that because he turned out to be town I believe that lordnincompoop's answer is suspicious.

Elaborate.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 06:55:35 pm

   Comparing his answer which I know is from a townie
and thus far the only experience I have with a townie
actually defending themselves to your answer where
you go out of the way to bring up that you are town.
I figure if you where town there would be no need to
do so and you would just answer but a scum player
would not be able to just answer what they think
because that would point out that they are scum.

   There are 5 people still in game. I am voting for
you, lordnincompoop, and TolyK is voting with me.
You are voting for me and Zrk2 is voting with you.
The tie breaker and all around wildcard Tyberix is
voting for TolyK. I believe Zrk2 is scum for voting
against me but that is not a reason or else everyone
is scum because we all voted for supercharazad.
Simply voting for someone does not a scum or townie
make.

   Tyberix, you are the most likely tie breaker. Do
you think that I, Akhier the Dragon hearted, is scum
or do you think that my enemy, lordnincompoop, is
the scum? Make you pick and let the pieces land
where they may. I myself believe you should vote
for lordnincompoop because he had to state his
being town which is like a crazy person saying that
they are not in fact crazy.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Tyberix on February 18, 2011, 07:10:26 pm

We're short on time and since most of my questions are still not answered...

From the Lordnincompoop/Akhier pair Akhier is simply more suspicious to me:
a)His restriction to stir the situation in LYLO (!!!) makes me think that he want to end the day with tie and random vote on the end...
b)No attacking even random - he leaves it to his scumpartner probably?
c)Few(the ones that include technical problems like double post or jokes on the other hand looks like they were made on the run :|)  of Lordnincompoop's arguments are disturbing and still unanswerd by akhier. His first defensive post looked strangely aggressive for him- why attack unnerved him that much ?
d)He got very defensive since the day beginning and tries to persuade us otherwise...
e)The fact that you don't have suspect this far in the game makes me think you're simply not interested in finding them cause you know who they are... To add to fire he voted then said he don't have any suspects ? Which version is true then ?
f)As Tolyk is still my first suspect, he fits better as his scumparter.
g)He pays way too much attention to getting himself out of this situation without counterattacking ?
h)Still playing the game with post obviousness and say it's an answer - avoiding own investigation.
i)Lordincompoop looks scummy mostly by lack of action where it is expected, he both this and active scumtells.
j)Changing the essence of his posts in next - worries about scum slips.
k)Few answers from him was answers to questions asked,most of them followed the h) or followed by j) or vague mentions of own weak scumhunt abilities and confusedness (what a word ;p) of his own statements.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 05:21:52 pm

   I did not say that Saints answer made me think he
was town, I said that because he turned out to be
town I believe that lordnincompoop's answer is suspicious.

I still don't understand this....

fakeedit : posts below partially answered but few more questions arise:

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 06:55:35 pm

  I believe Zrk2 is scum for voting
against me but that is not a reason or else everyone
is scum because we all voted for supercharazad.
Simply voting for someone does not a scum or townie
make.

You mean we shouldn't take votes into consideration ? That's the basic day changing info we got !?
Also: Your question to me makes me think you admit you got defensive because one scumtell ?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 07:19:45 pm

   I said that voting alone is not enough. If its a pattern
of voting that just fine.
   I have only seen 1 townie defend themselves. I asked
said townie the same question I asked lordnincompoop.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:20:22 pm

What team? If you mean town, then I though we'd be in a better situation by now.

   That is his answer. I asked specifically how he thought
his team was doing. If I asked you how your team was
doing would you go and ask me what team I meant? No
we are playing one game in this thread so it could only
mean how I thought his team was doing, whether he
was town or scum means nothing to that basic question.
He goes out of his way to say town even though he does
not actually say that he IS town.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 18, 2011, 08:17:16 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 06:55:35 pm

   Comparing his answer which I know is from a townie
and thus far the only experience I have with a townie
actually defending themselves to your answer where
you go out of the way to bring up that you are town.
I figure if you where town there would be no need to
do so and you would just answer but a scum player
would not be able to just answer what they think
because that would point out that they are scum.

   There are 5 people still in game. I am voting for
you, lordnincompoop, and TolyK is voting with me.
You are voting for me and Zrk2 is voting with you.
The tie breaker and all around wildcard Tyberix is
voting for TolyK. I believe Zrk2 is scum for voting
against me but that is not a reason or else everyone
is scum because we all voted for supercharazad.
Simply voting for someone does not a scum or townie
make.

   Tyberix, you are the most likely tie breaker. Do
you think that I, Akhier the Dragon hearted, is scum
or do you think that my enemy, lordnincompoop, is
the scum? Make you pick and let the pieces land
where they may. I myself believe you should vote
for lordnincompoop because he had to state his
being town which is like a crazy person saying that
they are not in fact crazy.

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 07:19:45 pm

   I said that voting alone is not enough. If its a pattern
of voting that just fine.
   I have only seen 1 townie defend themselves. I asked
said townie the same question I asked lordnincompoop.

Quote from: lordnincompoop on February 16, 2011, 02:20:22 pm

What team? If you mean town, then I though we'd be in a better situation by now.

   That is his answer. I asked specifically how he thought
his team was doing. If I asked you how your team was
doing would you go and ask me what team I meant? No
we are playing one game in this thread so it could only
mean how I thought his team was doing, whether he
was town or scum means nothing to that basic question.
He goes out of his way to say town even though he does
not actually say that he IS town.

So that's the only point you have against me?

You're reading too much into it. I tend to dislike ambiguous questions precisely because they're ambiguous, which is why I asked what team you were talking about (still no answer from that, by the way).

SaintDraze and I are different people, and our answers will be different. Comparisons like that are ineffective.

Also, your account is conflicting. Examine the first post where you say I stated I was town ("he had to state his being town which is like a crazy person saying that they are not in fact crazy.") and the second post where I apparently didn't say I was town ("he does not actually say that he IS town."). What did I say then, Akhier? Caught you in a little lie, didn't I?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 08:20:03 pm

   You stated you where town by the inclusion of an
unnecessary identifier. You may be different but as
far as I can see being different from a townie would
mean you are a scummie.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 18, 2011, 08:39:46 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 08:20:03 pm

   You stated you where town by the inclusion of an
unnecessary identifier. You may be different but as
far as I can see being different from a townie would
mean you are a scummie.

Being different from a SaintDraze makes me different, but not necessarily scum.

I believe it was necessary because my answer would have been unclear otherwise. You expect me to not address an important part of your question?

You're discouraging proper communication, Akhier, which is essential to the game.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 08:44:36 pm

   That is the trap. It would not be unclear because if you
are town, well town is doing bad so that is easy enough. If
however you are scum it would be a problem because scum
was doing just fine. I did not ask you which you where, just
how you thought your team was doing. The obvious answer
for a townie is bad or some variation. Only a scummie would
need to think about it because scum is doing good yet saying
so would be admitting to being scum.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 18, 2011, 08:51:09 pm

Quote from: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 08:44:36 pm

   That is the trap. It would not be unclear because if you
are town, well town is doing bad so that is easy enough. If
however you are scum it would be a problem because scum
was doing just fine. I did not ask you which you where, just
how you thought your team was doing. The obvious answer
for a townie is bad or some variation. Only a scummie would
need to think about it because scum is doing good yet saying
so would be admitting to being scum.

What, now you're judging people on a matter of opinion?

I said it before and I'll say it again: ambiguous questions don't help anyone but scum. They are unreliable sources of info.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 09:04:52 pm

   Honestly lordnincompoop I am no longer talking to
you but Tyberix. It is basically decided with only an
hour till town loses because you vote me to death.
lordnincompoop if you can show one other person
who has some slip that is worse then what I see
in what you said I will vote for them but I saw
no one better to vote for. I am Town. You may
be scum. I am currently to be lynched and the
town will fall. Course Zrk2 could vote different
but it is most likely Tyberix who would switch at
this late of time.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 18, 2011, 09:08:48 pm

   Ouch I just did what I am accusing you of doing...


maybe you are not scum...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: ggamer on February 18, 2011, 09:31:40 pm

too late to join I suppose?

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Day 3: Darvi's blood spills
Post by: Zrk2 on February 18, 2011, 09:36:30 pm

Very too late. I think BM XXI needs a replacement though.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Argembarger on February 18, 2011, 11:47:54 pm

Spoiler: why is the day ending an hour late??? (click to show/hide)

(http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/nes_quotes_you_should_know/i_feel_asleep.png)

//  /*--------------------------------------------------------*\
//  |   BM-XX Voting Terminal - Day 3
//  |*--------------------------------------------------------*|
//  |   
//  |   Akhier the Dragon hearted (3) - lordnincompoop, Zrk2, Tyberix
//  |   lordnincompoop (2) - Akhier the Dragon hearted, TolyK
//  |
//  \*--------------------------------------------------------*/

It was decided that Akhier had to die. Akhier MUST be the possessed one. The fate of the human race depends on this. . .

"Mind if I finish this scum off, guys?" Tyberix says.

"Sure, why not," replies lordnincompoop

"Make him suffer," adds Zrk2

Tyberix strides casually up to Akhier.

   "Now wait just a minute now I am not possessed
and you know it lordnincompoop. In fact you know
it because you are the one who is possessed and
I can pro-"

"Shhh only dreams now (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/scraps/D4V3XD4V3.jpg)," Tyberix interrupts, punching Akhier right in the throat.

The force of the punch is such that not only does it collapse Akhier's trachea, but it also breaks his spine. Spine fragments erupt out the back of Akhier's neck, and Akhier falls over, dead.

After a few moments of silence, TolyK says "Wow, I didn't know you could hit that hard, Tyberix."

"You don't know anything at all, human," Tyberix responds, smirking.

lordnincompoop laughs. "Ehehehehe"

"So YOU'RE the infected ones!" TolyK shouts.

"Oh, shit." Zrk2 adds.

lordnincompoop grabs TolyK and drags him to the back of the room.

Tyberix grabs Zrk2 and brings him next to TolyK. Their superhuman strength ensures the uselessness of physical resistance.

Tyberix and lordnincompoop smash Zrk2 and TolyK's heads together. Their skulls shatter and they die.

"Well, that sure was easy," lordnincompoop laughs.

"Sure was, brother," Tyberix agrees, "Lets get out of here, shall we?"

Together, they head over to the door and unlock it. They slip outside to a crowd of exhausted, scared looking people.

"Don't worry, everyone," lordnincompoop says, "we just had a minor situation. It's all taken care of, though this room is now permanently off-limits by my orders."

lordnincompoop seals the room with an emergency override code, setting the priority level so that only one of the Nine can open the room.

"It was an infestation of those brain creatures," Tyberix tells the crowd, "but do not panic. We have dealt with it. The safety of Humanity is assured."

The crowd cheers, ignorant to the truth.

"Now then, everyone, back to your usual schedules. Tyberix and I have to start looking for replacements for our tragically late colleagues."

The crowd disperses. Tyberix and lordnincompoop wait until the hallway is empty. They give each other knowing looks, and head in different directions.

Over the next month, 7 new representatives were chosen to replace Akhier the Dragon hearted, Darvi, TolyK, Zrk2, Supercharazad, SaintDraze, and chewie.

After the gestation period of the brain creatures was over, the new 7 were secretly infected with the offspring.

The nine brain creatures telepathically communicated with the Hivemind across those vast interstellar distances. The Hivemind knew exactly where the humans were going. There was to be no escape.

Humanity was doomed.

Akhier the Dragon hearted has been killed! Akhier was not possessed and had no special skills.
Zrk2 has been killed! Zrk2 was not possessed and had no special skills.
TolyK has been killed! TolyK was not possessed and was a medical nanobot expert (doctor).

Tyberix has won! Tyberix was possessed and had no special skills.
lordnincompoop has won! lordnincompoop was possessed and was a psychic master (roleblocker).

Good game everyone, especially for scum. Congratulations on third flawless scum victory in a row in my BM games. Am I doing something wrong??

Scumchat is here: http://quicktopic.com/45/H/VKnLjWWduB3Y6
Deadchat is here, though it wasn't really used at all: http://quicktopic.com/45/H/K27KhacXQZCD7

Alright gents, time to analyze th' game.

Any third-party spectators feel free to chime in with your two-bits.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: SaintDraze on February 18, 2011, 11:55:29 pm

Jesus! that was quite brilliant!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Zrk2 on February 19, 2011, 12:07:09 am

Curses! Foiled again! Good game, well done LNCP, I certainly didn't expect you.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: SaintDraze on February 19, 2011, 12:19:59 am

HAHAHA I was right! Lord nincompoop drank all the wine!
=D
I kinda guessed it...

All my town picks were spot on though...

And this was the first game I didn't get lynched on day 1...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: SaintDraze on February 19, 2011, 12:51:51 am

Ha! my bacon mind powers were pretty much right!
I KNEW YOU were avoiding the Discussion Too much!
I feel Proud that If I was a better player town would have won...

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Book on February 19, 2011, 01:00:39 am

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 19, 2011, 12:51:51 am

I feel Proud that If I was a better player town would have won...

That reads like "If I was a better player, I wouldn't suck". Yeah...


Fun game, all! Great activity, that was very very pleasing. Often BM games tend to be lurky, but everyone did a great job here. I think it was a lot of fun.

Arg, great job on the flavour and general set up, it was quite well done. A suggestion, though: I'd avoid the use of yellow colour for listing people's abilities/roles. It's practically unreadable for those not using the black background theme. Also players: I suggest, you stick to the conventions of the forum, it helps consistency and readability if you say "Extend" instead of "Extend"... minor points, to be sure, but my tired eyes will thank you.

All in all, a very enjoyable game to follow, and a successful BM. Congrats!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: TolyK on February 19, 2011, 01:55:51 am

damn that was a great job.

as doctor I was blocked on day 2, and the maffs killed my target! that was very lucky...
rereading though (post 49) I saw that I could be a power role... I was about to be NK'd Day2 also because I was getting close! roleblocked, but they though I was cop not doc. WOO HOO I got it right! They shoud've killled me!

...

I was lookin at lord as he seemed to be looking for roles a bit, and a bit scummy, but all in all well played. Tyberix was kind-of off too, but I didn't think he was much of a threat.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Darvi on February 19, 2011, 04:31:49 am

I knew something was wrong when Tyberix and ln started to gang up on Akhier <_<

Ah well, well played.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Tyberix on February 19, 2011, 06:32:33 am

Muahaha Free Brains!! :D Go go brainslugs !

Great game, but i expected my vote change would be not reasonable enough to pass,but looks like it worked.
First two days nearly played themselves for us .And we got lucky with no-cop setup. Don't worry TolyK you were hiding powerole well it was more of coincidence and lot of luck  :P

Well after  one game as town and one as mafia i can say : Mafia is hard ;p And WIFOMing is really useless apparaently ,but funny to watch from mafia perspective.

I seriously thought that somebody will get on my track ,but nobody even attacked my till the end :(

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 19, 2011, 06:38:47 am

Good game!

Good game people. I enjoyed my first time as scum, which ended in my first scum victory as well! :D _{Though I guess I shouldn't be too proud since this is a BM game.}

I loved the activity here, and props to you TolyK for seeing the link. You should have explored that more though, and it was terrible luck to have a scum tiebreaker. Most fortunately, there was nobody online to refute the votes and changes near the end.

You were a great scumpartner, Tyberix. We should have questioned each other more though. :I

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 19, 2011, 09:02:31 am

   Huh, I lost but I was right...

Well it was a good game all around.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 19, 2011, 10:56:55 am

Indeed. Thanks Toaster, you were an excellent IC!

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Toaster on February 19, 2011, 10:17:40 pm

I'm quite proud of my little scumlings!

Quote from: SaintDraze on February 08, 2011, 10:46:40 pm

well that just leads me to wonder what the who the cop(if there is one) investigates(the people who no one can read... e.g nincompoop and Cyberix)

This was my favorite post of the game.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: Toaster on February 19, 2011, 11:47:51 pm

Also, props to all of you on the activity level.

Title: Re: Beginner's Mafia XX - Game Over, Humanity Doomed!
Post by: chewie on February 20, 2011, 04:19:10 am

Good game, guys. Too bad I was out so early, but I didn't have time anyway, so meh.

Quote from: scumchat

pick off people who are intelligent and seem like they are on the right track or may figure you out.

A-ha!