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Finally... => Creative Projects => Topic started by: RedKing on March 29, 2011, 07:24:16 am

Title: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: RedKing on March 29, 2011, 07:24:16 am
So...I have this idea for a story that's been mulling around in my head for the last...oh, 15 years or so. I would have made a comic book of it already, if I had any artistic ability whatsoever, which I don't. My 4-year old draws far better than I do.

Here's the gist:

In a remote village in early medieval Japan (deliberately ambiguous time period, though probably late Heian period), a young man is sent off to a Buddhist monastery in China to learn his father's trade -- that of a Shingon sect priest, as his father is the village's resident priest. Unfortunately, after just several months, his father dies unexpectedly and he is forced to return home to take over the care of the village shrine with only partial training. He returns having taken the Buddhist name "Bai Shan" (Hakusan in Japanese), or "White Mountain".

It just so happens that this village is being beset by a kitsune, or fox spirit, named Youko. The interplay of the priest character and the fox character is the real core of the story. After several run-ins (including at least one attempt to seduce him), he eventually corners her and uses the esoteric magic taught to him (Shingon is noted for a tradition of "hidden" teachings to banish demons, heal the sick, etc.) to threaten her with banishment. She begs for mercy, and he decides to spare her but makes her swear an oath not to harm any of the people of the village, to which she assents.

Eventually, Youko settles into the woods around the shrine and becomes a companion to Hakusan and sort of a mystical protector of the village. She is very powerful, but is....immature isn't quite the right word. It's more that she doesn't comprehend the full consequences of her actions, like a child. I imagined a scene where she helps defend the village from bandits by killing them in some incredibly gruesome way and animating the corpses like puppets because she finds it amusing, and doesn't understand why Hakusan is horrified.

The setup would be good for a "Monster of the Week" run of stories, as a good way to dredge up and use obscure monsters from Japanese folk tales, but these would really be a vehicle for character development. I imagine other story arcs that would explore the character of life in rural Japan, the role of Buddhism in village life, and elements of Buddhist theology itself. The big thing is that I would strive as much as possible to be historically and theologically accurate.

Another character element I'd like to explore is that Hakusan's training is woefully incomplete. The kickass, demon-exorcising Buddhist priest (who usually doesn't act very Buddhist at all) is a staple character in anime and HK film, so I thought it would be interesting to have a priest who is forced to be a monster-fighting badass, but really isn't an ideal candidate for the job.

The biggest hurdle, for me, is the artwork. I have this very distinct idea of what I want it to look like, but lack any ability to make it happen. I'm not too concerned with how most of it is drawn, but I'm locked into this notion that Youko, when in fox form, would be this hazy, indistinct figure drawn in a sumi-e style, with just a few brush strokes suggesting a fox, to underscore her "otherness" compared to the mundane world she inhabits.


Any thoughts? Comments? Offers to draw? I'm also not very well-versed in manga, so I'd be very curious to know if there's already something out there like this.
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Neonivek on March 29, 2011, 07:34:35 am
Well from what I see this comic seems fairly standard partial comedy.

Now by Beg for Life what exactly do you mean?
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: RedKing on March 29, 2011, 08:00:44 am
Yeah, I know it sound superficially like several dozen animes, but I wasn't really thinking comedy. There might be the occasonal comic moment, but for the most part the tone is intended to be serious, but not grim. More contemplative than anything.

And as far as the "beg for mercy" bit, I was thinking a dialogue wherein he's ready to banish her (yellow strip with a sutra on it and everything), but relents when she points out that she is being true to her nature, no more than than the tiger who eats a lost traveler deserves death, or the sea which drowns a sailor deserves rebuke. There's also a tradition within Buddhism of exorcisms which don't so much banish the demon as convert it, transforming it into a guardian spirit, with a clear dharma path.

Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Armok on March 29, 2011, 08:29:13 am
Sounds interesting, if a bit clichéd/generic. I'd read it.
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Vector on March 30, 2011, 12:51:43 pm
I'd read it, definitely.
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Dr. D on March 30, 2011, 05:31:23 pm
I would read it if the Mongolians manage to actually invade Japan. Have the spirit person destroy the Hurricane that sunk all the ships.
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Neonivek on March 30, 2011, 09:51:26 pm
I would read it if the Mongolians manage to actually invade Japan. Have the spirit person destroy the Hurricane that sunk all the ships.

and not that the hurricane was actually an evil plot to obtain an unstoppable army of undead evil?
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: IronyOwl on March 30, 2011, 09:55:09 pm
Sounds pretty generic/cliche, but if you really want to just go for it. That applies to the artwork as well; it'll be good motivation and you'll get better with time.
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Neonivek on March 30, 2011, 10:28:54 pm
Sounds pretty generic/cliche, but if you really want to just go for it. That applies to the artwork as well; it'll be good motivation and you'll get better with time.

There is nothing really too wrong with Generic and Cliche if it can be pulled off well. Some fiction works because it is cliche while still finding ways to mix it up a bit. Of course it can just end up cliche and generic.

The usual mistakes people make in this genre is making the straight guy too straight and making the fox too zany. Judging by the set up you may have that problem possibly. What with the dressing up dead bodies (AHHH!!!).
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: Strife26 on March 31, 2011, 12:27:59 pm
I don't think that it's too cliche, provided that you stick very roughly to contemplative action, not zany hi-jinks. Make it clear that it's not supposed to be a gag-a-day comic. As for the artwork . . . I abandoned even trying stick figures. I use color coded circles with rudely created smiley faces . . .
Title: Re: idea for a graphic novel/webcomic -- comments?
Post by: IronyOwl on March 31, 2011, 07:36:30 pm
There is nothing really too wrong with Generic and Cliche if it can be pulled off well. Some fiction works because it is cliche while still finding ways to mix it up a bit. Of course it can just end up cliche and generic.
That's... actually a good point. Anything can be trite garbage or a masterful epic, depending on how it's done.