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Title: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: Full Circle
Post by: inteuniso on July 13, 2011, 09:23:40 pm
It's that time to backstab, marry, and generally be dicks again!
We'll be playing in DVIP, as it adds new kingdoms and a bunch of new events.

RULES:
After your ruler dies, you pass the game on.
You can only play again after 2 generations have passed (your great-grandkids)
You can play as ANY member of the dynasty (if your nephew, for example, becomes the King of France, the next person can play as the King of France. However, the person afterwards can choose to play as say, the county of Backwaterton.)

PLAYER LIST:
1. Inteuniso - Mihajlo, 1066-1070
2. Cheese - Petrislav, 1070-1101
3. RedKing - Vukan, 1101-1102
4. Silent Thunder - Hranislav, 1102-1118
5. RF - Uros, 1118-1129
6. Inteuniso - ,
7.Deadmeat1471 - ,
8. Cheese - ,


We begin our story in the humble Duchy of Rashka. It is 1066, and the Empire of Byzantium still stands strong. The infidel hordes knock on its' door, however.

This is not a story of the Byzantines, however. It is a story of a Serbian family, and how they came to power, fame, and gloreh.

This is the story of...

THE VOJISLAVLJEVICS

THE STORY SO FAR
CHAPTER 1: The Slavenning (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88859.msg2439968#msg2439968)
CHAPER 2:Petrislav the Ambitious (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88859.msg2449011#msg2449011)
CHAPTER 3:Vukan the Manipulator (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88859.msg2450339#msg2450339)
CHAPTER 4:Hranislav the Regent (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88859.msg2452062#msg2452062)
CHAPTER 5:Uros the Crazed (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88859.msg2455371#msg2455371)
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: Nistenf on July 13, 2011, 09:27:14 pm
I'll play, but I have lots of things to do this weekend so don't put me second. Also I'm probably a bad player. I just hope not as bad a deadmeat :P
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on July 13, 2011, 09:41:55 pm
I'll play whenever :D I promise not to bankrupt the whole dynasty again.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: EuchreJack on July 13, 2011, 10:33:24 pm
I'll play whenever.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: inteuniso on July 13, 2011, 10:34:37 pm
So we have volunteers, just no family yet. Who shall we play as, gentlemen? (I suggest a small county for added difficulty)
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on July 13, 2011, 11:19:54 pm
So we have volunteers, just no family yet. Who shall we play as, gentlemen? (I suggest a small county for added difficulty)

Nubia.  :P
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: EuchreJack on July 14, 2011, 12:51:12 am
Byzantium!  ;D
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: RF on July 14, 2011, 03:31:21 am
Ooh, ooh, I wanna be the one that accidentally destroys the Kingdom! :D

I'm going for one of the Byzantine states, or ruler of Byzantium.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: EuchreJack on July 14, 2011, 05:53:06 am
Inaction as King of Byzantium basically guarantees the death of Byzantium.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: inteuniso on July 14, 2011, 10:56:10 am
I have made a command decision... and we are playing as the Duchy of Rashka.

Namely, the Serbian Mihajlo Vojislavljevic. Best last name ever.

I'll try to have his rise to gloreh up by tonight.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: Meet the Vojislavljevics
Post by: Cheese on July 14, 2011, 11:04:21 am
I'll take the sixth slot, though I may not be able to play when it comes to me.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: inteuniso on July 14, 2011, 12:56:25 pm
RISE TO GLOREH
PART I: The Slavenning

My name is Mihajlo Vojislavljevic. I am the Duke of Rashka. I answer to the Pope in Rome, and my zealous brother looks poorly on me for it. It is the year of our Lord 1070, and I write these chronicles from my deathbed.

In 1066, I began to make actions that will hopefully benefit my son in the future. I offered vassalization to the puny republic of Ragusa, which they stoutly refused. I made Vladimir, my 36 year old son my steward, as both he and his cousin were equally incompetent at the job. I told my Castle Quartermaster to try to find something better for the peasants, as cloth does not protect from arrows very well. I found brides for my unmarried relatives, one of them a master steward, managing to coax every last ducat out of the minor nobility. The Pope, whom I respect but do not admire, asked me to try to convert MY son, forcibly. While I love my Pope, I decided that it would be better to have an orthodox brother than a dead one. The Pope promptly declared me a heretic, which I still am up to these final days.

I sent one of my young relatives to Ragusa, hoping to make them friendlier to the cause of joining the great Duchy. While pondering what to do next, it suddenly dawned on me that God had placed me on this throne. I told all the minor nobility of this, and they realized they were living under one of God's Chosen. As a benefit of improved relations, the Magistrate of Ragusa invited me on a hunting trip, which I heartily agreed to. While we did not become friends, we each held each other in better respect.

In foreign courts, the new Emperor of the Eastern Romans, the late Emperor's son, is a personal rival to the Sultan of the Mighty Seljuk Turks. I fear that the mighty Empire that has been our bulwark will not last.

In 1068, the Steward became ill, with coughing and sneezing. The Apothecary gave her the finest Herbs we have available in Rashka, but it did not help. In August of 1068, I had raised enough funds to hire workers for a mine in the nearby hills. By 1069, it was mining metals that greatly improved our income. Later in 1068, my spymaster informed me that he had engineered a fake complot, which made my only vassal, my youngest son, more loyal to me. Meanwhile, my overly zealous brother had begun to tire of his lower position than mine, and demanded compensation, or he would leave. Seeing through his empty threat, I told him I simply had nothing to spare. By July of 1069, my Quartermaster had news of a recent development. He had discovered how to sew tanned pig hides  together to make a sort of leather armor. I congratulated him on work, and promptly sent him back to his office, a tiny room smelling of sausage.

The Romans were quickly falling apart by this time, with multiple Principalities falling apart. Even at peace, the once great Empire did not stand against the multiple ambitions of the greedy princes. in the Spring, some dim-witted farmers decided the black, shriveled seeds would provide a good harvest, claiming they were "late bloomers", or something along those lines. It, however, did not work out, as about half of the crop harvest has refused to grow.

My ill steward, wife to one of my relatives, became angry at me, partly because of my accused heresy and partly because I am Catholic. I told her to get out of my court for the day.

With enough Ducats, we set up a forestry, to cut down the lush timber along the Adriatic coastline. It shall surely quicken the construction of other buildings. The local priests discovered Ascetism, a discovery that does not benefit me at all. This happened a few months before I lie here today.

I hope my son will read this, and not repeat any mistakes I have done. I wish him luck, in ruling, and rising to glory.



There is the save game (http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bay12PrinceOfRashka.eug). You can choose to play as either the Duchy of Rashka, ruled by the Son of Mihajlo, or the county of Hum, ruled by the Grandson of Mihajlo.

Choose wisely, as we contine our...
RISE TO GLOREH


Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 14, 2011, 01:04:22 pm
That was short lived rulership, but quite a good description nonetheless.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 14, 2011, 02:12:20 pm
Add me to that, my current game with the Ua Mordhas of Ireland is starting to get stressful. A new crisis tearing apart the realm every ruler.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: h3lblad3 on July 14, 2011, 03:50:25 pm
Hm... I guess I should reinstall (double install?) the game and attach the DVIP to one.  :P
But I fear I'm much too lazy to do that.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: EuchreJack on July 14, 2011, 06:16:38 pm
It probably wouldn't be cheating if I looked at that save file, even though my turn isn't next, but rather the one after next...right?  ;)
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: inteuniso on July 14, 2011, 06:17:16 pm
You could play since Deadmeat is still on Linux, I believe.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: EuchreJack on July 14, 2011, 08:05:29 pm
Nah, I'll wait a couple days for Deadmeat to play.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on July 14, 2011, 11:55:15 pm
I'll check it works on linux, most paradox games do. Give me a moment...

Ok it didn't work first try, bump me to last in the list so you guys can continue.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: inteuniso on July 15, 2011, 12:58:10 pm
Alright, Euchrejack, you're up.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Nistenf on July 15, 2011, 01:08:06 pm
Mh, I'm almost next and the weekend hasn't even started, please put me last or something
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RF on July 15, 2011, 03:49:07 pm
YES

YES

THE COLLAPSE BEGINS WITH ME.

I am next, right?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Zrk2 on July 15, 2011, 04:28:49 pm
This should be funny, it really sucks that I couldn't get this when it was free... Try to help a friend and he uses the code before I can and now - No fucking game.

RRRAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: inteuniso on July 15, 2011, 05:26:43 pm
Yup RF, bring the collapse. But remember, there wouldn't be that much of one.(we have 3 provinces) First, we must rise. Then, we can collapse!

And, remember the rule. Once two people have played after you, you can play.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 15, 2011, 07:09:39 pm
Put me on the list. And watch me get one of those guys who inherits the throne at 18 and lives to be 70.  :D
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: h3lblad3 on July 15, 2011, 10:33:44 pm
I was gonna volunteer until I played earlier.
I don't think I could stand the urge to use bugs and other failures.
Even though it wouldn't work as well in DVIP since hyper-expansion there means everything falls to pieces.
It still works fairly well on it.

I was gonna explain exactly what I meant, but I went ahead and removed it so no one else gets any ideas.  ;D
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RF on July 16, 2011, 03:19:59 am
I should have this done by tonight or the end of the weekend. LET US SLAVS RISE.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: EuchreJack on July 16, 2011, 05:33:52 am
Since I haven't been able to start my turn, you should take my place.  I'll play after you.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 16, 2011, 06:32:51 am
Hurry up, I want to be able to play this in the weekend.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RF on July 16, 2011, 04:55:14 pm
Sorry, guys, going to have to skip this turn. D:

Put me two turns down or something, please.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: EuchreJack on July 16, 2011, 05:45:11 pm
Cheese, you're up!
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 04:34:11 am
MY TIME HAS ARRIVED!

If I don't finish this today, I may not be able to continue till next weekend. If this is the case, can someone finish my generation off?

E: Petrislav's son and Mihalo's grandson, Marko, is now the prince of Vidin, a 2 province principality under the Byzantines next to our territory. It took an assassination though, and we were discovered. I'd expected better since we now have a 17 intrigue spy master.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: EuchreJack on July 17, 2011, 05:47:17 am
Assasinations are terribly hard, regardless of the Spymaster.  To be blunt, the reason you succeeded is because you have a 17 Intrigue Spymaster.

But good news!  Since you assasinated someone, and were discovered, you can be sure that the family of the deceased will be sending assassins after YOU.  So, your turn will probably end quicker than you expected.

Still, you managed to get another principality into the dynasty via evil means.  You have earned my respect!
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 06:16:23 am
I'm not sure if he had family. I got Ragusa to become our vassal, they got into trouble with Genoa, so I figured they'd appreciate an actual army to help them out. Note that I'm only going to help them if Genoa actually send armies.

E: Ok, alliance with the Byzantines or not? They offered. Their empire is still fully intact but it might have collapsed and then reabsorbed itself.

I saved and accepted. If I get bombarded with calls to arms then I'm reloading and declining.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A Crusader Kings Succession Game
Post by: EuchreJack on July 17, 2011, 06:36:24 am
Byzantium!  ;D

Ooh, ooh, I wanna be the one that accidentally destroys the Kingdom! :D

I'm going for one of the Byzantine states, or ruler of Byzantium.

I'd say you've got at least two people that would vote for the alliance.  If anybody's gonna destroy Byzantium, it should be us!
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 06:39:14 am
I've sent a fosterling with 7 martial and potential to gain a lot more. With luck, he could end up on the inheritance line. Also, I went to war with Genoa since they sent armies to take Ragusa. Our 3.5k army vs their 3k army. Ours won. Feels good. It's expensive as hell though and we may have to chase their army down.

E: Ok, white peaced with Genoa about a year or 2 after all of their armies went home. We beat their armies and got a claim on a Genoan title, which we were too poor to pursue and has now mysteriously disappeared. This has all started a big rivalry between our Prince Petrislav and their governor/margrave, which is quickly growing to a rivalry between our whole states and all of our nobles. We have secured Ragusa as ours though.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RF on July 17, 2011, 07:49:09 am
We are using this patch (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?331766-DV-2.1-Beta-Patch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008&s=0ad3e31c72151fadadded46b0224966d&p=8983876&viewfull=1#post8983876), aren't we?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 07:59:53 am
We are using this patch (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?331766-DV-2.1-Beta-Patch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008&s=0ad3e31c72151fadadded46b0224966d&p=8983876&viewfull=1#post8983876), aren't we?
I think so.

Markos, the one who is the Prince of Vidin, is set to inherit Petrislav's throne as the prince of Raska. Does this mean that when he inherits, Raska will become part of the Byzantine empire or Vidin+Naissus will become part of Raska?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 17, 2011, 08:06:48 am
We are using this patch (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?331766-DV-2.1-Beta-Patch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008&s=0ad3e31c72151fadadded46b0224966d&p=8983876&viewfull=1#post8983876), aren't we?
I think so.

Markos, the one who is the Prince of Vidin, is set to inherit Petrislav's throne as the prince of Raska. Does this mean that when he inherits, Raska will become part of the Byzantine empire or Vidin+Naissus will become part of Raska?

The first one. You always retain your current title and allegiance, unless the new title is a higher "tier". He will be the Prince of Vidin and Raska, and subservient to the Byzantine Emperor.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 08:15:08 am
Buggery. Is everyone OK with being subservient to the Byzantines, or shall I change the inheritance laws? Keep in mind that if Markos inherits, we'll be a vassal to the Byz, but we should also be able to create the King of the Serbs title. Considering he'll have about 6 provinces, he may end up first in line for next emperor, or close to it.

Unless anyone has a problem, I'll probably just let Markos inherit. We can always try and break off, the empire shouldn't be too hard to fragment. If it goes well, the Vojeslavjevics could be the next dynasty on the Byzantine throne.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 17, 2011, 08:31:40 am
I wouldn't worry about it. If the Serbian crown is available, that would peaceably break the vassalage, if someone chooses to do so.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RF on July 17, 2011, 08:32:17 am
I'm alright with being subservient to the Byzantines.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 08:44:17 am
That's all good then. It's up to the next ruler anyway, aside from the inheritance.

E: How do I make the most of unmarried females? Like to get inheritance and stuff?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: inteuniso on July 17, 2011, 09:23:15 am
Unmarried females should be married into the family if there's enough 3rd cousins, if not, marry them to minor nobles. With semisalic laws, non-family members can inherit through females.

Also, is the count of Vidin a Vojislavljevic?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 09:30:46 am
The count of Vidin is not.

E: Principality of Vidin no longer Byzantine, so we won't be subservient when Markos inherits.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 12:04:05 pm
RISE TO GLOREH


The reign of Petrislav Vojislavljevic

The story of Petrislav Vojislavjevic's reign begins in 1070, when he is coronated the Prince of Rashka, after his father Mihalo's death. He was taught by his uncle, Radislav, in the ways of zeal and orthodoxy and by his childhood in the ways of battle and trust. This text will log the events of his reign from 1070-1101.

1070: An attempted assassination on the Ragusan first in line fails.
1070: The Kingdom of Germany begins to fall apart, Austria rebels and France tries to absorb the western rebels into it's kingdom.
1070: Dobrosa returns, removing the possibility of inheriting Ragusa.
1070: Ragusa becomes Venice's vassal.

1071: Dobrosa is married to a spy master of great skill.

1072: Mihalo's still living brother, Radislav, leaves for the Belgardian court, citing religious problems.

1073: Ragusa becomes Genoa's vassal.

March 1074: Radislav returns from Belgarde, requiring medical attention. It is given. He stays and eventually returns to his positon as marshal.
October 1074: Ragusa declares independence from Genoa, Genoa declares war. Vassalisation is offered to Ragusa, it is accepted.

March 1075: Court of Justice built in Rashka to deal with a thieves organisation.
July 1075: Genoan armies land in Ragusa, Rashka officially declares war.

May 1076: After several Rashkan victories, Genoan armies retreat back across the seas.

July 1077: Petrislav falls ill, but a miracle worker succesfully heals him, in exchange for a sum of gold. It is estimated that, by the end of Petrislav's rule, various court members owed a total of over 500 gold in debt to miracle workers.
August 1077: Genoa accepts white peace after both land's suffer stability problems, though it is technically a Rashkan victory.

June 1079: Hatred between Petrislav and the Genoan ruler grow, Petrislav finds friends in those with a mutual hatred.

August 1080: Maria, Mihalo's wife and Petrislav's mother, dies. There is great mourning.

August 1081: Investments increase the realm's stability.

November 1082: Markos, Petrislav's son, inherits the title Prince of Vidin and Count of Naissai.

April 1082: Radislav dies, symbolising the end of Mihalo's generation.

June 1084: The count of Ragusa wins Belgorod in a war. It is later lost to rebellion.

May 1086: The Byzantine emperor dies, the heir offers an alliance, it is accepted.

June 1091: A mysterious disease spreads around the court, it is still around by the end of Petrislav's rule.

May 1093: Petrislav lays claim to the title of count of Dyocchia, a newly independent province of the Byzantines. War is declared.
November 1093: The war is won, title given to Stefan, Petrislav's son.

November 1095: The Byzantine Emperor dies, the alliance is terminated.

June 1097: Zavida, Petrislav's wife dies. He mourns deeply.
July 1097: Petrislav begins the construction of a small castle in Rashka in honour of his dead wife, who bore him 3 healthy males and provided him with comfort throughout his life.
August 1097: The count of Vidin rebels from Markos, endangering the possible formation of Serbia that has long been a Vojislavljevic dream.

January 1098: Rashka intervenes with the war now going on between Markos and the rebel count, declaring war on the count of Vidin.

May 1098: The war is won, title given to a grandson.

December 1099: The castle in Rashka is complete. It is named Zavida castle in remembrance of Petrislav's deceased wife. Petrislav feels his life waning.

January 30, 1101: Petrislav dies of old age, his son, Markos inherits the throne.


R.I.P
Petrislav Vojislavljevic
Prince of Rashka, Count of Rashka and Zeta
Lived 1035-1101
Reigned 1070-1101

Long live Markos Vojislavjevic!




You can play as Prince of Rashka/Vidin, and some counts in the Rashka area.

Save (http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bay12PrinceOfRashka1101.eug)
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 17, 2011, 12:31:41 pm
Sweet. I should have a chance to play a few solid hours this evening after the kids are in bed.

Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 12:47:31 pm
Save up.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: inteuniso on July 17, 2011, 12:48:29 pm
Remember. While you can play as Markos, you can also play as the Count of Vidin, or Stefan, the count of Dyocchia.

It'll be more fun to play Markos though :p
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 17, 2011, 12:52:05 pm
^Thanks. There's also the count of that province next to Rashka. The one that went to mihalo's grandson.

I expected to do a bit more expansion, but there wasn't much opportunity. I'd recommend going for the pieces that fall of the now crumbling Byzantium, or trying to spark something with Croatia.

Can you put me at the end of that list? I might budge back for newcomers if they come.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 17, 2011, 09:30:10 pm
Actually, I decided to play Vukan Vojislavljevic, the hunchbacked Count of Hum. I kind of picture him as a Tyrion Lannister character, trying to advance the goals of the overall house, while advancing himself and his line within it.

The diaries of Vukan Vojislavljevic, lord of Hum and scion of the House of Vojislavljevic

January 30, in the year of our Lord 1101.

Father has gone to his eternal reward, and by birthright, my eldest brother Marko has inherited the twin principalities of Rashka and Vidin. Marko is not without his strengths, but statecraft is not among them. The fool waited too late in life to produce a legitimate heir, and now the fate of our family lies in his cradle, crying for the wet-nurse's teat. He married his daughters off to Russian boyars, and his eldest is a veritable whore, spawning five half-Russian sons in Suzdal. Now Marko's mewling infant Uros is all that stands between our House and domination by some petty Russian noble.

My own son Petar is a shining star, equally gifted in the field of battle and the administration of our lands. He will make a fine ruler some day. But the needs of our family require that I must safeguard Marko until his son is of age, and safeguard his son to ensure that he reaches that age.

February 10: Marko has declared himself Protector and Princeps of the ancient Byzantine theme of Dioclea. The Byzantine Emperor, a mere child himself, is in no position to contest the claim. With this claim, Marko now claims rulership over nearly all Serbian lands. I wonder what he plans...

February 24: It is as I suspected. At a gathering of lords in Rashka, Marko made a proclamation:

For too long, the Serbian people have suffered--squeezed between our neighbors with no rights of our own. But we are not our neighbors. We are too civilized to be Magyars or Pechenegs or Bulgarians. We are of the one true faith, unlike the Croats. And we are not decadent like the Greeks in their decaying Empire. We are Serbs! And it is time we stood under one united banner! And as Princeps and Protector of the Serbian people, I will raise that banner as our King.

The others went along with the notion easily enough.
--Amanieu, the magistrate of Ragusa, he is a French jackal who will follow whatever earns him the greatest coin. And he probably feels more secure under a Serbian banner than under that of the Croats.

--Stefan, our younger brother is a weak-willed fool who would follow whatever order is given. His wife is the true power in that household, and she serves Marko as his steward.

--Oleg Rurikovich, the count of Ugra in the far-off steppes is Marko's son-in-law and solidly loyal. He is of little consequence and will likely meet his death at the hands of nomads or worse.

--Our 2nd cousin Nikodem is the only one who seems to have any reservations, because he has little stomach for the brutish business of securing an empire for our family. He detests Amanieu however, and for this I find him in my liking.

For my part, I support Marko's ambition. But perhaps not Marko in his person. If Uros dies young or is found to be unfit, I cannot allow one of his halfbreed grandchildren to rule over a united Serbia.

February 27: Before leaving for his new capital at Dubrovnik, Marko held a quiet ceremony where he invested me as Prince of Rashka, but asserted that the county of Rashka would remain part of the royal estate. It is an insulting irony that I will rule in name only, confined to my own lands of Hum, but I take solace at least in knowing that they are the richest lands in all of Serbia.

March 11: Heralds bring me news that Marko has invested Nikodem as Prince of Vidin. A better choice than our shiftless younger brother, and perhaps he means to tempt Nikodem's support against his gentler nature. He will also serve as a counter in case the Ragusan merchants ever think they can rival the Italian city-states and remain free. Perhaps Marko is showing some skill at statecraft after all.

August 4: At a family gathering, I made some jest about Marko's daughters and their affinity for Russian bedchambers. Count Oleg of Ugra was apparently within earshot and took great offense. Perhaps this is doubly compounded by the fact that his lovely young wife has yet to bear him any heirs. Regardless, I have made another enemy. Why do they seek me out so?

October 18: After King Dan of Croatia rebuffed his claim to Dalmatia, King Marko made to enforce his claim by strength of arms. Normally, I would say this would be a disaster. But the Croats have been at war with Norway (God knows why) for several months, and their armies are off in Prussia or Denmark or God knows where right now, while a Norwegian jarl lays siege to Senj. I will not fight to defend Marko's claim however, but to wage my own vengeance against the hated Trpimirovics and to take the lands of Rama rightly due me.

March 10, 1102: The Croats tricked us. Somehow they have raised thousands of troops, though their best lords are still away on campaign. Our nobles give us an advantage but this will not be a swift victory. Leading my men, we have taken control of Rama, and are headed for Usora. Perhaps if we can capture both, we can ransom Usora for a permanent claim to Rama.

March 11, 1102: We drove the enemy from the field, but only at grave personal cost. Five of my best household guard fell defending me, and only after a Croat rider gashed me with his lance. The wound is grievous, but not yet mortal.

March 16, 1102: The chirurgeon says that the wound is festering, and I have taken ill. I have gained Rama, but I fear it will come at a terrible price.

March 26, 1102: Messengers bring a proposal from the Croatian throne. They will grant me the charter to the county of Rama, for a blood payment of 48 gold sovereigns, virtually my entire treasury. Though it pains me to make peace from less than a position of strength, my wounds throw the whole matter into the hazard. Caution dictates that I take the gains that I may achieve in this life. I have agreed to the proposal -- land is more valuable than a trifling of gold, and my treasury will be refilled.

April 21, 1102: Our King has decided that since the quick war we hoped for did not materialize, to settle his accounts with the Croats. For their part, they know that they cannot fight against us and the Norwegians at the same time. Marko extracted 21 gold sovereigns from them as blood payment. Perhaps they still bear the smell of my coffers.

May 17, 1102: Noting our lack of a bishop and my fading constitution, the Patriarch has sent a newly ordained Serbian bishop to attend my court. We have welcomed him with open arms.

May 19, 1102: Though it matters little to us, travelers bring news of a great victory in the realm of France. Their king, Charles de Blois, has crushed the armies of Robert Curthose de Normandie and obtained the crown of England from him. William's dynasty lasted but a little time, and now the Franks are mighty indeed.

June 1, 1102: I would not have thought it, but I have outlived my brother. Our King, Markos Vojislavljevic, passed unto his just reward early this morning. God rest his soul, and God help the Serbs. We kneel to an infant king, Uros the Unready. I acknowledge his suzerainty, because what other choice do we have? There is no other heir from our House who lies anywhere close in the line of succession.

August 17, 1102: My vision fails me, and I hear the choirs of the heavenly host calling to me. I leave to my son, Petar, a meager treasury but a rich land. And I entrust to him to safeguard our fledgling King and to help him defend Serbia against all our enemies.




So....that was a quick game. About 20 months total. The AI created a Serbian kingdom, and I added Rama to its lands. The merger of France and England was a bit of a surprise--never seen England get curbstomped that early, and by France. And a non-Capetian France at that. So the next player has some interesting options. Petar, Prince of Rashka has only a 2-county demesne, but it's a fairly rich one and he has some high stats (14 martial, 15 stewardship) and a capable court (mostly women). Then there's the infant king Uros (age 1, all stats at 1). The line of succession is precarious--if Uros dies without heir, the crown goes to any number of five Russian boys in Suzdal. There's also still Stefan, the last of the three brothers who is still Count of Dyrrachion. And Nikodem, the distaff cousin who was elevated to Prince of Vidin.

Enjoy: http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bay12PrinceOfRashka1102.eug (http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bay12PrinceOfRashka1102.eug)       
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RF on July 18, 2011, 04:50:36 am
Damn, man. You shouldn't play the oldies. :p

EDIT: Had a play through and wow... Whatever idiot married off our close sister to one of the far away Russians, you are stupid. :| It means we lose the King of Serbia title if Uros dies (which it is likely he does) and won't get it back until their ENTIRE LINE is dead. Can I recommend to Silent that he assassinates every single one of those Sulduzian bastards?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 18, 2011, 10:36:10 am
I didn't do that, I sent Markos off as a fosterling. Then he inherited the principality of Vidin and I had no control of him stealing our Volkislavawahteverian courtswomen and marrying them off. Also, keep in mind that the county of Zeta produces massive armies, around 3k of troops. And I take full credit for Rashka's amazing court.

E: Ok, it was definitely the AI that married our dynasty with Russians. They were Markos' daughters, who was ruler of a separate principality for the entirety of my rule.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 18, 2011, 10:38:36 am
Well Ill be taking the infant King, I mean, nothing can go wrong right?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 18, 2011, 01:25:45 pm
Whatever you do, stay alive until you're 16. Then breed like a rabbit.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: RedKing on July 18, 2011, 01:33:51 pm
Damn, man. You shouldn't play the oldies. :p

Didn't have much choice. Both Vukan and Markos were in their early-mid 40s, and Stefan and Nikodem were in their 30s. And those two are both wusses. Probably could have lasted longer if Vukan hadn't decided to be leading the troops with his hobbling hunchbacked self, but when you only have a one-county demesne, your leader is automatically the field commander. At least he went out in a blaze of Croatian-beating glory.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 18, 2011, 02:36:26 pm
RISE TO GLOREH


The reign of The Infant King: Chapter 1

The Records of Caslav Vojislavljevic, Regent to King Uros

August 17, 1102 Today the council decided to increase the Schutage so that we will be brining in a paltry 3 gold a month from the vassals. I protested of course, but unfortunatly the rest of the council disagreed with me, and so I must listen to them, if only to keep appearences up.

September 29, 1102 A feast! A great feast for a greater wedding! Today, Branislav has married Krisztina Arpady, daughter to the successor to the Bulgarian throne. Who knows, perhaps this will lead to great gain in the future.

October 4, 1102 The vassals have demanded we sign a Magna Carta, limiting the rule of the King. This is a serious matter, and I must consult the council at once upon the matter.

October 5, 1102 We have managed to reach a compromise, although the Magna Carta was not signed, we did promise quite a bit of gold in return for their complacancy. Hopefully we shall be able to recover from this setback.

October 5, 1102 In order to shore up loyalty, we had to give the governor of Ragusa a Magistire position. A purely symbolic promotion of course, but It should elevate us in the eyes of our peers.

April 17, 1103 Today, Hranislav came to me, demanding I install him as Steward. I decided to politely decline, but he walked out in a huff.

October 3, 1103 I have had it. The stresses the meeting, everything. Every day a new squabble that must be resolved. Between these idiots getting mad over seating arraingments, to pampering this infant who claims the crown. I have gotten my offer from Vidin, and shall be packing my bags tonight. God help whoever takes my place.

The Diary of Hranislav Vojislavljevic, Regent to King Uros
October 6, 1103 Caslav, left us with no leader. I have stepped up in his place, and shall serve this court with all my strength, wits, and energy. He seems to have thought that my views were heretical, and my mind unsound. But I shall prove them wrong! I shall lead our people to glory!

October 10, 1103 Ah my first royal decision! Today I shall begin to bring glory to our house! Radica has come of age, and needs a husband. Now this is of course a very important decision, one on which the entire fate of Serbia rests! I infact believe that such a decision needs perhaps years of thinking! I shall weigh this decision heavily for now.

April 27, 1104 Still no worthy husbands for Radica, I may just marry her off to a harmless count to keep the succession lines clear. But I also have decided to reward my hard work. I feel that the 35 gold I took from the treasury wont be missed at all. Not like we needed it.

May 10, 1104 With the succession the way it is, I did not feel comfortable allowing Radica to marry a foreign lord. As such I have given her to one of our courtiers. Perhaps they may have a child that can serve us.

January 24, 1105 Today is a dark day. Today, we have buried Konstantin, our beloved Diocese Bishop. May he rest in peace.

September 15, 1105 We have made the obvious decision to teach young Uros at the court. Perhaps he may even be as great as me someday. But I digress. Besides the formalizing of Uros's education, we have married a few more women away in kingdom. Last thing we need is for them to start birthing some half Russian mongrels.

March 28, 1106Today is a glorious day! For today, we are allied with our friends in Croatia. This means our major threat no longer is an issue. And if all goes according to play, in only 20 years, Hungary will be under Vojislavljevic rule!

August 15, 1106 Yet another marraige, this time between Aleksandar and the King of France's daughter. SUre we had to assasinate her fist husband, but thats just how it works. Coincidentially, I have ordered King Uros's personal guard to be doubled.

September 2, 1106 I cant beleive it worked. Today the king's two sons were meeting at Fiox to discuss matters of the realm, and our assasin managed to stage a raid of their travel party. Both sons were killed, and as far as the French know, It was simply a peasants rebellion gone horribly wrong.

September 10, 1106 Wispers seem to indicate that not only does the King of France know that I was responsible for the death of his sons, but that everyone knows House Vojislavljevic was behind it. Although this severly wounds our prestige, I care not, we have secured France for House Vojislavljevic, and that Is a victory no matter how you look at it.

November 22, 1106 The peasants are complaining of the amount of their wealth that we just donated to the church. Although some say this may destabalize us, I feel that such donations are important.

December 5, 1106 Another blade, this one in young Andreas Argyos. It pains me to have to kill a child, but the Emperor of Byzantium was becoming irksom, and I needed to ensure none of his spawn have a chance to become a major thorn in our side. Its just a shame that his lands are ruled by electives, because he has a lovely daughter that would be perfect for Svetolik.

May 26, 1107 Today I approved a massive road project to be carried out in the capitol. Although expensive I think this should prove to be benificial in the event of military intervention.

November 6, 1107 I remember when this job was exciting, now it seems the scheming is over, and waiting has begun. The only marginally important decision was when Keratsa from Vidin was sent to us as a fosterling. Where is the glory, the power I was promised. I am beginning to see why Caslav left.

Febrauary 5, 1108 Today is the darkest of days. The Magna Carta... has been delayed. But at a great coast, 400 gold! All those precious coins. They were so beautiful, and now they are gone! I shall make sure they pay! THEY WILL ALL PAY FOR THEIR INSOLENCE!

February 6, 1108 It seems I overreacted last night, I hope I can learn to control my temper. I also promise not to drink during council meetings. Apparently my comments at Stewardess Hermine were crude and uncalled for. This is my written apology, Signed Hranislav Vojislavljevics

November 20, 1108 Another uneventful year. All that happened of note since February was today Marshal Boris has left. He claims it was because he couldnt suffer this court. But I beleive he has the same problem I do, boredom. I mean what is a mashal without a war? Nothing, and thats what he feared he would be remembered for. Marshal Vladimir shall take his place.

Februrary 17, 1108 The concept of Musical Instruments has spread to our courts. Perhaps things will become more lively.

August 1, 1109 Today Stevolik has found a bride in our court. Unfortunatly we couldnt find a political marriage for the poor boy, so he will have to be content with merely sireing heirs.

September 2, 1109 Aleksander is expecting a child. If this child is a son, we will have secured France for House Vojislavljevic. I will hold back celebrations though, because his first child was a daughter, and this one may be another as well.

January 10, 1110 Our vassals are starting to get a bit uppity, but Steward Hermine assured me that cutting scutage would put them back in line. I hope she is right.

February 24, 1110 We decided that young Bela should be instructed in the court, in order to help us in the future.

June 1, 1110 GLORY! GLORY AND POWER TO HOUSE VOJISLAVLJEVIC! FOR TODAY WE HAVE DONE IT! WE HAVE SECURED THE THRONE OF FRANCE! Ahem, Like I said, today Raymond Vojislavljevic is born, and he is the first heir to the French Throne. Now Charles de Blois still has some years left in him, but at age 41, I sincerly doubt he'll be able to father any heirs, and If he does, our daggers await their flesh. Let it be known that I Hranislav Vojislavljevics am the sole person responsible for this feat! And let my name adorn every family hall! For today is a day of celebration!

End Part One
Sorry about those last few years, but literally nothing happened aside from some stuff about sending children to court or monestary, notifications on loss of titles in backwaters in deep Russia, low skill courtiers throwing hissyfits etc. no important events. If you want me to record these non-events to flesh it out, Ill do it. Ill probably continue late tonight or tommorow.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Cheese on July 18, 2011, 02:53:57 pm
Congratulations on the France inheritance.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART I: The Slavenning
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 18, 2011, 03:14:33 pm
Congratulations on the France inheritance.

Thanks, it was a risky move, because it cost us a shitload of prestige and piety for the assasinations, but If it wasnt for those damned Magna Carta Events Id be in alot better of a position. Still France is nice.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RedKing on July 18, 2011, 03:33:16 pm
Doubly so, since France swallowed England while I was playing. All hail the Serbian King of Frangland.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 18, 2011, 04:10:48 pm
Hm, it would seem that we know own half the world...Excellent.

I'd best start practicing ruling a kingdom.  Hm, Byzantium runs are nice...
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: h3lblad3 on July 18, 2011, 06:03:57 pm
Gosh, you guys overrun the world worse than I do. Props, seriously.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RedKing on July 19, 2011, 07:34:37 am
Yeah, I rarely use assassins in my games, but some of y'all are bringing it Borgia-style.  :P
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 19, 2011, 07:37:02 am
Come on, Silent, I want my turn. D:
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: inteuniso on July 19, 2011, 09:36:32 am
Yeah, I rarely use assassins in my games, but some of y'all are bringing it Borgia-style.  :P

Assassins are how the Von Habsburgs inherited the thrones of France, Germany, Italy, and Croatia. They warred for Burgundy.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 19, 2011, 02:57:45 pm

The reign of The Infant King: Chapter 4: Part 2

The Records of Hranislav Vojislavljevic, Regent to King Uros

July 26, 1110 Today, the council has pressured me into opening a mine is Rashka. I dont see the point, but I never was one for numbers. Numbers are a simpletons game, so as long as they leave the politics to me, I'll keep quiet.

October 2, 1110 The insufrable King of Hungary refuses to die, 57 years old and he still finds time to not be dead. His wife is just as bad at 63 years! I fear his son my die before him, which would cause us to lose our way onto the Hungarian throne! This is unacceptable, and something must be done!

December 6, 1110 Today I Hranislav Vojislavljevic have been vindicated! The wise leaders of our faith no longer consider my views to be heretical, and I am once more viewed as a true man of faith! Perhaps someday they will remember me as they do the apostles, but I shouldnt speak of that, claims like that may have caused the problem in the first place.

January 16, 1111 That fool, Governor Amanieu, at our yearly tournament, called out King Uros and claimed he would not suffer to be ruled by a child and the, ahem, moonstruck fool who leads him. I instructed young Uros to not take such affronts, and the result was a fight that left everyone speachless. Unfortunatly it seems the two will not reconcile, and I fear Serbia may soon be headed for dark times.

March 5, 1111 We have allowed the Jews to set up a lending buisness in Naissus, many feel they are unwelcome, but the council again assures me its for the best.

July 19, 1111 Amanieu's arrogance knows no bounds. Today he demanded that the realm enter feudal contract. The council, as well as the other vassals, told Amanieu where to shove it, And I informed him that any more attempts at inciting rebellion will be met with stripping of titles.

September 13, 1111 THAT FOOL! THAT BASTARD! Governor Amaniue had broken free of his bonds, and is openly encouraging the others to do so as well. I have ordered all of our armies to mobilize, and we shall see if Amanieu has the balls to back up his words!

September 18, 1111 As expected, the county of Dyrrachion has proclaimed independance. this is of course because their leaders had allied themselves with the traitor Amaniue long before this happened. No matter, for their army is a pittiful rabble of men not fit to be called soldiers!

September 24, 1111 In hindsight, Feudal Contract was a good choice, we have initiated it now. However it is better we do it now, as opposed to when Amaniue demanded it. His war was inevitable, and its best not to look like we capitulated to him.

October 23, 1111 Our armies have reached both traitors, and victory seems inevitable!

November 10, 1111 Both armies have reported victory, and are laying seige to the traitors.

December 17, 1111 Dyrrachion is conquered, and we have kept it for ourselves, as it is best not to put a traitor back in power. Also if this is truly civil war, we will need all the land and men we can get to defend our holdings.

February 2, 1112 Ragusa has fallen, and with it, all chances of civil war. I fully expect the next few months to prove the stability, and already the wispers of rebellion have died down. Weather it is through respect or fear I care not.

Feburary 4, 1112 Due to the fact that the realm is now too big to maintain, we have decided to give Dyracchion to the church, as a sign of our committment to peace and prosperity.

March 13, 1112 Our armies have returned home and have demobilized. I feel safe enough to proclaim the civil war over!

May 11, 1112 It amuses me to know that the traitor Amaneiu now serves as a common courtier in a backwater County.

October 9, 1112 As a reward for staying loyal, we have granted Vidin the lands of Ragusa. The physical seperation should also keep them from attempting a rebellion in the future.

November 28, 1112 Today one of our Captains has developed a new tactic, that involves holding an enemy in place as you charge their front to break their lines. The Captain has been rewarded and the tactic incorporated into our doctrine.

December 27 1113, Stewardess Hermine demanded compensation for having to work in a court with the reputation we have. I gladly gave her the requested sum of money, but only because all the possible replacements were completely incompetant.

May 14, 1114 I know I havent wrote about him much, but I feel I must. I fear that my father may not be long for this world. Although even at 64 he was strong, recently his mind... it has begun to fail him. I sometimes catch him in the halls, staring out the window for hours. Sometimes I hear him talking... talking... talking to mother, who has been dead for fifteen years. Other times he argues with the council, even though chambers are empty. I just don't know what to do, and as I get older, I wonder if people will remember me for my deeds, or my final moments of maddness. It seems that is all people will remember my father for.

May 24, 1114 We have found a bride for Tresimir, in the lovely daughter of the Croatian King. Although he has two sons, I feel as if it was a wise marriage. Perhaps poor fate will befall them, but I fear I no longer have the stomach for such endavors.

August 20, 1114 Our blacksmiths have finally been trained in the art of making Chainmail, which is much more comfortable than that leather armor they used to have us wear.

November 4, 1115 Yet another uneventful year, However Uros now is 15, and as such I shall begin transistioning responsibilities to him, in preparation for him taking the throne next year.

January 16, 1116 We have ordered the extension of the road network into Rashka, allowing our troops to quickly reach all our vassals lands.

October 3, 1116 Today, Uros becomes a man, and I must step down. I will continue in my capacities, but I fear I may be preoccupied with caring for my father. Regardless, I have served my duty to Serbia, guiding her through tough times.

End Chapter 4

State of the World: Serbia stays at its starting size, with one less vassal, but the lands remain in our hands. House Vojislavljevic is in the line of succession for both France and Hungary, and Croatia could become part of us as well. Germany declared War on France sometime twords the end, and France seems to be doing poorly. Croatia has gone on a crusade or something, all I know is I got a crapload of popups about them declaring war on Muslims. Uros has become a odd ruler, with 6 in all stats except diplomacy, which has an impressive 16 points. Possible players include Uros naturally, Nikoden, Prince of Vadin, who is starting to lose loyalty, or the Loyalist Prince Petar of Rashka.

All in all a dull game, with only one minor conflict, however I think I managed to set into motion great things for our RISE TO GLORY.

And here is the save: http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bay_12_Kingdom_of_Serbia_1116.eug (http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bay_12_Kingdom_of_Serbia_1116.eug)
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 19, 2011, 03:03:12 pm
I am on it NOW.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 19, 2011, 04:07:38 pm
The Reign of King Uros Vojislavljevic, A Diary : Part 1
The Infant Grown

October 4th, 1116: A day as king, and my head already pounds from the stress of it. Peasants who want me to reign in the burghers, burghers who want me to reign in the clergy, clergymen that want me to make the nobles more pious and nobles that want more rights over the peasants. How did my forebears stand it?
Uros gains trait: Stressed.

October 10th, 1116: Barely a week after my 16th nameday and they already have me wed off to some Sicillian slattern. The weight of Kinghood is pressing down on me, now they force on me an ugly wife (even the artists could not make her look beautiful) simply because she is the only child of a powerful (and rapidly aging) king. I can see her fluttering her eyelashes at the other courtiers. Before the year is up, she will be shacked with one of them.
Uros gains: Wife. (Yes, she is the sole daughter of a 39-year-old Sicillian king. I hope to god his laws are Semisalic, also she's got 20 intrigue. :D)

November 21st, 1116: What did I say? She's fucking one of the courtiers. I put trust in her too! I told my men not to spy on her, nor did I confront her about it. And now the rumours float through the castle like ashes through a volcanic sky. I should have them both beheaded, but the effort of it...
Uros' wife gains "friend": Petrososi or something.

January 14th, 1117: At least my cousin is about as happy as I am. I had her married off to some 40-year-old Byzantine count. Sometimes it's GOOD to be king.

February, March, whatever, 1117: The days pass boringly. I had some people build some buildings or something of that ilk, but otherwise it's the usual peasantry bullshit. Maybe I should start a war...

December 16th, 1117: I have been told my wife is with child. I... Was not expecting this. Certainly, we've consummated our marriage, but... Never passionately. It has to be done in passion to count, doesn't it? Maybe it was that dirty filthy courtier she's been seeing. I should have him flayed.
Uros' wife gains: Big belly.

January 2nd, 1118: The Croats called us to war today. All my advisors told me to send them confirmation that we'd join them, since the enemy is far away and Turkish, so I did. We're at war, finally!
Serbia gains enemy: Egypt.

February onwards, 1118: Today we didn't send any troops to attack Egypt because it's "more prudent". I want blood, damn it! I want to feel men's entrails spill down my blade! But I think the counts will revolt against me if I force them to take up arms, it's planting season...

1118: The usual business. Thieves, buildings built, we went to war with a few Muslim emirates whilst others swore peace upon their swords. Sigh, I wish something INTERESTING would happen. My lady's belly swells to massive proportions and I doubt even her sweet smelling bitch can stand to do her with it.
Serbia gains enemy: Useless Muslims.

December 6th, 1118: My boy was born today. My beautiful boy. My little Prijezda. I will silence any that claim he is not mine, for I can see my strong nose in him. This child is strong and will inherit the thrones of both the kingdoms of Sicily and Serbia. It will be a glorious day when that happens. The wife looks almost appealing at the moment, I'm sure that will pass soon.
Uros gains: Son, Prijezda.

End Part 1

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So, yep, very little has happened except for the fact WE NOW HAVE AN INFANT READY TO TAKE TWO THRONES! Sadly he'll probably take it before he's sixteen (the king of Sicily is currently 50 or so), but it'll be worth it. I've been building the cheap improvements since we don't really seem to have much need of money and I'm getting back what I put in by the time things are built. If we get into a real war (not against useless Muslims being gangbaned by all the other Baltic countries) then I might start to worry, but not for now.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 19, 2011, 05:56:29 pm
The Reign of King Uros Vojislavljevic, A Diary : Part 2
The Boy Becomes A King

December 25, 1118: The French princess (or whatever she styles herself) slit her own throat, which I found raucously amusing. Apparently her husband was not up to much in the bedroom!

Early 1119: My cousins desire to be (re)wed, do they? So be it. Each of them can have a fat German bride to bear fat German babes. Of course, these ARE the king of Germany's daughters... There's just one little matter to be taken care of, his 1-year-old son...

We have gained a Varangian Guard. An army of Scandinavians ready to spill the blood of our enemies for us. I can say that I am excessively pleased by this.

Late 1119: Oh, the wonderful time I've had. I fucked some wench and gained a baseborn son AND my true wife is pregnant with my next child. Wonderful days! My loins shoot out their seeds and wherever you look, fruit springs up!

Byzantium is distracted by the Muslims, now is the time to take Belgrade...

Early 1120: Done and done. Getting rid of that squealing porkling took only 60 gold and a starving beggar to do the job. I even promised him the corpse to eat! Oh, if you'd've seen his face, you would've laughed so hard. Recently we found out that Raymond has inherited the throne of France. As much as I dislike the little bugger, it'll be useful to have a cousin as the ruler of such a powerful kingdom.

In other news, Hranislav is being an annoying little prick, so I married him off to some 50-year-old German countess. Oh, dear god, I LOVE being King.

Finally, we have Belgrade, too. I will not tell you how, just trust me that it was bloody, difficult and resulted in Belá Vojislavljevic having the seat. These are glorious times to be Serbian.

Late 1120: Another son! Osmond he will be called and for him I hope a princedom. It is the very least he deserves, being born barely two years after his brother.

Late, Late 1120: FINALLY a real war. The Duchy of Slavonia has declared war on our oh so noble allies the Croatians, and it's all I can do not to stop myself from tearing after them in a blind haste, rage filling my blood stream. Before I do that, however, I think it's time to "find" some documents proving our rights to certain Slavonia domains...

My wife's bedwarmer has got himself into a duel with one of the other courtiers... I think I can get rid of him this way...

January 1121: And already the war with Slavonia is over. They barely had a token force defending the pathetic castle in that unpronounceable Croatian province, but we took it and they recognised our claim on it. The question is who to give it to.

1121: The Count of Ugra declared war on us for independence. Sending the troops there would've either killed them or bankrupted us if we'd sent them by sea, so I gave him his freedom. Cheaper than that piece of shit province was, anyway. Very little else happened this year.

1122: My uncle Petar died and left me Rama and Hum. I can managed them fairly, so I think I will stick by them for now and build their infrastructure. Maybe one of my sons can take them over after I am gone.

End Part 2

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A pretty eventful year. Our king has an heir and a spare (not decided which is which, yet, depends on how their stats come out) and a bastard boy just in case. This king is either going to live a long time despite his current crippling depression or die shortly because of it. We'll see. Currently waiting for the heirs of Byzantium and Hungary to turn 16 so I can try marrying our cousins off to them (not going to do much, but it'll give us a bit more spread out blood in higher echelons), so we'll see how that turns out. Claimed another province, exiled the wife's "friend" etc etc. A good year, all in all.

Raymond has the throne of France, too. It wouldn't shock me if he was assassinated or something soon, though. He's only 9 and there's a lot of years to go between 9 and 16.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 19, 2011, 09:31:16 pm
The Reign of King Uros Vojislavljevic, A Diary : Part 3
The King Becomes A Shambles

1123: Lazar born, France disintegrating under the rule of a child king, very little else happens.

1124: Yet another year of little more than the usual crap. Random marriages wherever I see fit, found out some of our's were ALREADY inbred. The little French King soldiers on.

1125: Holy shit, ALL our vassals have just declared war on Croatia. Had a choice between joining Croatia and joining our vassals, joined our vassals and grabbed a few Croatian titles. Let's see if we can be ruler of the Serbs AND Croatians.

1126: The outcome was... Disappointing. We only got one province and that was by the skin of our teeth. And for what? We've ruined a great alliance and lost so many men. Ridiculous.

1127: Nothing happens except the whispering in the walls.

1128: The whispering grows louder! *there are lots of meaningless scribblings and drool stains covering these pages*

1129: *more scribblings and drool stains* I DIE!

Historian's note: December 11th, 1129: Uros' son, Prijezda comes to the throne after his father was assassinated the night before. Barely a teen, it was yet to be seen how well he would fare.

End Part 3

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Yeah, our king became schizophrenic. Some of our people were inbred (one of our daughters married a Russian who gave her a few children one of whom then married one of our's and gave us inbred babies) but I got rid of them via marriage. The realm is poor (although we've got a decent income) and most of our counts are pretty disloyal. I might have gave us waaaay too much BB and fucked us over there, you know how it goes.

Otherwise, our line is doing pretty well. Raymond is soldiering on in France, married decently and is 19 now. The next person along could probably play Prijezda and not fuck up, as long as you're ready to quickly subdue anyone that rebels. (Shouldn't be too hard, just be careful for assassins.) We've got a Voljislavljevic boning the Castillian queen, which means Voljislavljevic babies. One of our cousins is married to the Byzantine Emperor (I regretted that instantly when I realised it wouldn't get us closer to the throne and pushes us further away due to inbreeding issues). The rest of our spawn are all over the European world, messing shit up as they go along, like the pair I sent to marry the German women who they only had daughters with screwing us over in terms of succession there.

My advice to the next person if they play Serbia is: Give away some of our provinces. Get ready for rebellion and crush it swiftly. Remove those that rebel from their seats and replace them with Uros' siblings (put his bastard in a bishopric since they seem to ALWAYS be loyal). Hope to god you can reduce BB before Croatia, Hungary or Byzantium decide we look like juicy morsels and crush us.

My advice to the next person if they play France is: I have no idea. Godspeed, you black emperor. Unite France, maybe?

The Save Game Imaginatively Titled Bay12Games-Serbia-1130 (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2bVu9CcnhV1MDc1MDIzY2EtMjQ3OC00OTlmLWI1ZTgtZDllOTA0N2FhZTFh&hl=en_GB)

P.S. I'd love to sign up for another turn as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 19, 2011, 11:47:09 pm
Downloading now.  I'm tempted to take France, but it depends on their situation.  If there is no hope, I'll take Serbia instead.

Oh, and I've currently upgraded only to the last official patch, I haven't installed the beta patch.  Do I need the beta patch? 
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 20, 2011, 12:02:48 am
Oh, for the love of the Patriarch!

(http://i55.tinypic.com/6joe4g.gif)

Fair bit of land, two kingdoms, but...

(http://i54.tinypic.com/9qe2cz.gif)

What oh what could the French King have done to lose so much Prestige!
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 20, 2011, 01:30:52 am
yes you need the beta patch, otherwise bad things can happen.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Mr.Person on July 20, 2011, 01:58:41 am
What's your monthly vassal loyalty loss due to badboy? That's a LOT of badboy.

I'm bemused by a French Orthodox king who's secretly Serbian.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 20, 2011, 02:31:51 am
Ok, the game kept crashing, so I'll be updating to the beta patch.

Monthly loyalty loss due to badboy is 12%.
Monthly loyalty loss due to bad prestige is only 2%, which is amazing because it is so low.

On one hand, I'd like to steer the ruler towards Catholicism, as Pope stuff is so cool.  Shame they didn't implement the Eastern Pope.

On the other hand, the French Orthodox king idea is pretty cool, especially the possibility of converting all of Europe to Orthodoxy.  Kinda turns the slogan of the game from "Deus Vult" to "Screw You, Pope".
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 20, 2011, 03:09:36 am
Why would you not update to the beta patch anyway? ._. Paradox never stops calling them beta patches to absolve themselves of the blame.

Eastern Pope? :p

And just go Serbia. It's going to collapse without a firm hand at the rudder. D:
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 20, 2011, 03:20:18 am
But...but...France is so...bigger.

Besides, I've figured out how to salvage France, and Serbia isn't really that bad off.  Or big enough to matter, really.

The glorious Kingdom of Serbia, for comparison:
(http://i55.tinypic.com/vnm0z8.gif)
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 20, 2011, 03:39:14 am
And here is how I'd change things, the day after taking over Serbia.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/29lo4mh.gif)

More Princes means less angry vassals, and better reputation.  Now, only one vassal is "at risk".

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lkcg94.gif)

And even that vassal's loyalty is on the uptick, thanks to the great Chancelor of Serbia.  4% boost in loyalty!

Note that the personal Demise is still large enough to put down any one dissident vassal.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Cheese on July 20, 2011, 10:23:38 am
So are you playing France or Serbia?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: EuchreJack on July 20, 2011, 11:09:14 am
I was hoping for a bit more feedback on what people would prefer, actually.  Although, I'm leaning towards playing France.  The above screenshots are just to catalog their starting conditions.

Regardless, I'll be starting in a few hours.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Mr.Person on July 20, 2011, 12:45:32 pm
You're using DVIP, right?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 20, 2011, 01:18:58 pm
You're using DVIP, right?

I think he is, otherwise the game would be flipping out methinks, because DVIP adds some new provinces and factions I think
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Mr.Person on July 20, 2011, 01:26:43 pm
I assumed as such too. Serbia is a DVIP country, for instance, but I also wasn't sure if the game wasn't simply reading the save files. Since EuchreJack wasn't too keen on using the beta patch, I was just checking to see what else from the OP was being ignored.

Personally, I'd play as Serbia, but I don't like dealing with civil wars. France actually isn't in that terrible shape, all things considered, it just needs some... restructuring.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: RF on July 20, 2011, 01:36:27 pm
I say Serbia. If Raymond withers on the vine, so be it. We are slavs, not slaves!
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART IV : Hranislav the Regent
Post by: Cheese on July 20, 2011, 02:07:15 pm
Serbia indeed, it might fall apart if it's left to the AI.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: Silent_Thunder on July 20, 2011, 05:52:37 pm
Hey are we still in line for Hungary? If so that could later be combined with Serbia to make a respectable Kingdom.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: Mr.Person on July 20, 2011, 07:41:58 pm
Combining with Serbia would leave us with Hungry Hungry Hungary.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VII: Another boy king
Post by: EuchreJack on July 21, 2011, 05:40:09 am
Serbia has some family connection with the throne of Hungary.

EDIT: The below is fictional, as my game always crashes shortly after this.

Due to popular demand, I decided to play as the King of Serbia, specifically as the advisor to the King, in the guise of this fellow:

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7449/screenhunter01jul210613.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/screenhunter01jul210613.gif/)

I'll probably give him a County, and turn the King over to the AI, once the King reaches 18.  But only if Serbia has grown in that time.

Here's what I've got so far:

Reign of Regent Tresimir The Rich: Advisor to the Second Boy King of Serbia

December 1129:
I advise the King to give up his Prince titles to doubting Counts as a sign of good faith.  Speaking of faith, I also advised giving our Diocese Bishop two counties of his own.  Our new vassal is disloyal, but that will change in time.  Once our boy king grows up, I hope to recieve a County of my own.  I note with irony that the Bishop's son is the King of France.  I can only assume he is praying for his poor boy's soul.

The King of Sicily asks us to join in alliance.  However, their current war with the King's cousin, the King of France, makes this impossible for us to accept.

End Fiction.  One month of play isn't worth uploading.

I'm playing with the latest Beta, DVIP, yet the game freezes up constantly just after I begin.  Therefore, I surrender my turn to the next player.  Sorry folks.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: x2yzh9 on July 21, 2011, 07:57:53 am
Where can I find the beta patch?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: EuchreJack on July 21, 2011, 09:26:46 am
It's on the Crusaders King forum of Paradox.

Link: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?331766-DV-2.1-Beta-Patch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008&s=8752d527cbf0c14c2258097fbd75829b (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?331766-DV-2.1-Beta-Patch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008&s=8752d527cbf0c14c2258097fbd75829b)

And unfortunately, I'm unable to play my turn, as some game event that my system is unable to process keeps occuring.  I can run any of my games fine, but this savefile just doesn't work for me.  I truly hope the next player's turn works, and look forward to watching this Kingdom form, from the sidelines.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: Cheese on July 22, 2011, 04:40:29 am
Nistenf is up then.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: RF on July 24, 2011, 12:42:55 pm
If Nistenf isn't playing, pass it to Int?
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: Korbac on July 24, 2011, 02:03:02 pm
This game you've got going is too boss to die, gentlemen.  :-\
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: France's Kingdom is Falling Down
Post by: inteuniso on July 25, 2011, 07:54:14 am
If I'm up, SO BE IT THEN! Let me find all the relatives I can play.
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: Full Circle
Post by: RF on July 25, 2011, 09:54:18 am
Int, put me at 9. :D
Title: Re: Rise to Gloreh: A CK Succession Game PART VI: Full Circle
Post by: RedKing on August 02, 2011, 09:28:08 am
Anyone? I'll take another crack at it if inteuniso isn't playing.