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DF General Discussion / Re: Lazy Newb Pack Installer for Linux
« on: October 16, 2013, 01:42:39 pm »
Hi there,
I decided to try this pack, which seems very convenient for starters. However, if I understand well, and although it compiles everything needed, it still needs the 32-bit libraries installed (why?). This means I have to allow arch32, which I will avoid. The fact someone posted in this thread that he had to do
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dpkg --add-architecture i386doesn't leave any doubts it is as I said.
My system is pure 64-bit, and I want it to stay that way. Lots of 64-bit libraries are already installed in my system, including the ones required for DF, this pack, and many others. Personally, I refuse to install a big amount of otherwise useless 32-bit libraries (~200 Mb, including all their dependencies.) That is actually the reason I didn't play DF for quite some time now (it works on my 32-bit netbook but it's slow.) With 64-bit technology being around for more than 15 years now, and in an era even cheap laptops come with 64-bit multi-core processors, I don't see why many applications are still released in 32-bit only, forcing 64-bit users to install a 32-bit development environment. Yes, 200 Mb for 32-bit useless stuff is not much for today's hard disks, but I still refuse to install them just to be able to run an application, whatever that application is.

Some time ago, I was able to run vanilla DF that way; i had to manually download some 32-bit libraries and put them in DF's directory, essentially making DF a "static" build. This was still a unacceptable trick, but at least I didn't have to actually install those libraries in the system. However, even that trick doesn't work anymore. The last time I tried, I realized it needed way more 32-bit libraries than before and gave up. I saw this pack actually compiles everything so decided to give it a try, but stopped when I read it still needs a 32-bit development platform.

Is there any way to install this pack using the native 64-bit libraries installed in my system?

My system: Linux debian 3.10-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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Hi there,
I decided to try this pack, which seems very convenient for starters. However, if I understand well, and although it compiles everything needed, it still needs the 32-bit libraries installed (why?). This means I have to allow arch32, which I will avoid. My system is pure 64-bit, and I want it to stay that way.
Lots of 64-bit libraries are already installed in my system, including the ones required for DF and this pack, and many others. Personally, I refuse to install a big amount of otherwise useless 32-bit libraries (~200 Mb, including all their dependencies.) That is actually the reason I didn't play DF for quite some time now (it works on my 32-bit netbook but it's slow.) With 64-bit technology being around for more than 15 years now, and in an era even cheap laptops come with 64-bit multi-core processors, I don't see why many applications are still released in 32-bit only, forcing 64-bit users to install a 32-bit development. Yes, 200 Mb for 32-bit useless stuff is not much for today's hard disks, but I still refuse to install them just to be able to run an application, whatever that application is.

Some time ago, I was able to run vanilla DF that way; i had to manually download some 32-bit libraries and put them in DF's directory, essentially making DF a "static" build. This was still a unacceptable trick, but at least I didn't have to actually install those libraries in the system. However, even that trick doesn't work anymore. The last time I tried, I realized it needed way more 32-bit libraries than before and gave up. I saw this pack actually compiles everything so decided to give it a try, but stopped when I read it still needs a 32-bit development platform.

Is there any way to install this pack using the native 64-bit libraries installed in my system?

My system: Linux debian 3.10-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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