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DF Modding / Re: Traducción de Dwarf Dortress al español
« on: July 11, 2016, 09:10:41 pm »
Ok, leeré el primer hilo y manos a la obra, gracias

Edito: El link del primer hilo me lleva a "Página no encontrada"...
Registrate aquí: https://www.transifex.com/signup/

Y una vez registrada e iniciada la sesión puedes encontrar las cadenas para traducir aquí:
https://www.transifex.com/dwarf-fortress-translation/dwarf-fortress/language/es/

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DF Modding / Re: Traducción de Dwarf Dortress al español
« on: July 02, 2016, 07:31:12 pm »
Yo dejaría "engraving" como "grabar".

Más preciso que "tallar" es "cincelar" que, aunque es sinónimo de tallar y de grabar, describe exclusivamente el labrado de la piedra o el metal, mientras que la talla puede ser en otros materiales como la madera o el hueso. El "entalle" por otra parte se refiere a la piedra, pero solo para crear sellos.

Pero creo que es mejor "grabar" porque en el juego hace falta pulir las paredes (smooth) antes de grabarlas (engrave). Creo que la razón para necesitar pulir las paredes antes de grabarlas es que engraving no se refiere a tallar sino también a imprimir las paredes lisas (que también es una forma de engraving). Por lo tanto yo dejaría engraving como grabado. Además, ambos se refieren tanto a labrar como a imprimir superficies lisas.

grabar Del fr. graver.
1. tr. Señalar con incisión o abrir y labrar en hueco o en relieve sobre una superficie un letrero, una figura o una representación de cualquier objeto.

Grabado
1. m. Arte de grabar.
2. m. Procedimiento para grabar.
3. m. Estampa obtenida por medio de la impresión de planchas preparadas al efecto.

Y grabador es el artesano del grabado.

En cuanto a "alisar" para smoothing lo veo bien. Aunque referido a paredes me suena mejor "pulir".

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: DF v0.43.03+ Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« on: June 19, 2016, 03:03:16 pm »
This one has a single layer of aquifer (third layer).

Size of embark: 2x2 (flat surface)
History: 250 years
Metals: plenty of Iron/steel and gold, and also copper/bronze/silver.
Spoiler: Ores: (click to show/hide)
Flux, sand, clay and Fireclay.
Spoiler: Layer materials: (click to show/hide)
Contact with all four civs: dwarves, elves, humans and goblins (in case you don't contact any of them repeat the creation of the world until you have contact with all four of them).
Biome: Untamed Wilds/Temperate Savanna/warm/sparse trees/moderate vegetation
River (brook)
Caverns:3.
Magma distance to the surface: 75 levels.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: DF v0.42.02+ Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« on: June 09, 2016, 05:23:41 am »
Oh, my bad :p I assumed that it would be in the center, and yellow in center turned up those plains :p

When it comes to flatness, I've noticed that rivers usually are on flat ground (though the map in general may not be) - and if they do have a waterfall, it is straight drop to the bottom. I'd guess the hilly side is on the northwest?
IIRC the river is surrounded by mountains, but as the river passess through 3/4 of the map (the north-east, the south-east and the south-west), those areas of the map are flat and there is just a mountain in half of the northwest area. As you rightly say the rivers are allways on flat ground. There might be embark sites to the north of this one that are completely flat and have similar characteristics in ores, aquifer, clay, sand, etc. (but with no magma-pool).

This is the map of my embark (the mountain in grey color, flat terrain in green and rivers and pools in blue):
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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: DF v0.42.02+ Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« on: June 09, 2016, 02:48:12 am »
...whoa, is the surface of that map flat?
Most of it (3/4). The north-west part is a mountain.

It could display the location in region/world area, though :p

It is displayed. Search for the yellow X to the right in both maps.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: DF v0.42.02+ Worldgen Cookbook Thread!
« on: June 09, 2016, 12:02:48 am »
In case someone is interested in this world created in DF v0.42.06.

Size of embark: 2x2
History: 250 years
Metals: Iron/steel, brass, silver and tons of copper and gold.
Flux: Yes.
Sand and clay: Yes and yes (fireclay)
Contact with all four civs: dwarves, elves, humans and goblins (in case you don't contact any of them repeat the creation of the world until you have contact with all four of them)
Biome: Untamed Wilds/Tropical Forest/Heavily forested/Warm temperature. If you move your embark location to the west or to the north you will find similar embark characteristics but with different biomes/less wild.
Aquifer: No. In case you want an aquifer for any reason you have an aquifer in the biome bellow the embark location but the aquifer tiles lack of ores.
River: Yes.
Caverns:3.
Magma distance to the surface: 46 levels (there is a magma pool).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Anyone else crashing?
« on: June 07, 2016, 03:12:12 am »
You can turn off TWBT in the Lazy Newb Pack dialog, then load the game and see if it solves the problem:
"Lazy Newb Pack" window>"Graphics" tab>"Choose" tab>"Print Mode" button (Choose "Print Mode" 2D instead of TWBT)

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DF Modding / Re: Traducción de Dwarf Dortress al español
« on: June 05, 2016, 01:32:01 am »
He hecho algunas traducciones pero me da la sensación de que estoy solo ¿este proyecto sigue vivo?

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Ah yes, quoting a guy from the time race-biology and the indo-aryan nonsense was at it's height surely proves that all catalan separatists are racist Nazis. It's not like you could find statements like that from people of every single country and nation in Europe or anything!
I am not talking about all the Catalan separatists, because most of them don't even know what nationalism or separatism is about. I am talking about the Catalan separatism ideas. But if quoting the former president of the government of Catalonia for 30 years (a Catalan nationalist) and quoting one of the creators of the Catalan nationalism means nothing to you then I think there is nothing else I can explain to you.

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I like how our friendly forum spanationalist at once accuses the catalan nationalists of being nazis and race hygienists, then turns right around and accuses the Catalans of being degenerate and inbred.

I do not accuse Catalans of being degenerate and inbred, that is just an idea for a roleplaying game. In fact I do not accuse Catalans of anything, I just accuse the Catalan separatists. As for the rest, I am no liar:
"hemos de vigilar (el mestizaje), porque hay gente en Cataluña que lo quiere, y ello será el final de Cataluña".
Translated: "we must keep an eye on miscegenation, because there are people in Catalonia who wants it, and it will be the end of Catalonia"

Jordi Pujol (2004), former president of the government of Catalonia (he was the president for 30 years) and Catalan nationalist.
Note that Jordi Pujol is only a Catalan nationalist and there are other branches of Catalan separatists much more radical.

"We (the Catalans), which are of Indo-Germanic origin and heart, can not bear the preponderance of such elements of inferior races".
"We can not be leaded by those that are inferior."

Pompeu Gener, Catalan nationalist theorist (1887) when the Catalan nationalism was being created. This source is also a 400 pages book on the Catalan separatism racism, its core.

I could keep on going with more barbaric and retarded statements made by the Catalan separatists but I think that is enough for now.

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Even the former president of the Government of the region of Catalonia (he was the president for 30 years and a Catalan nationalist) said that they should keep their blood clean and they should not marry Spanish from outside Catalonia or something like that.
That sounds more like the Nazis or the Ku Klux Klan than the Cult of Cthulhu.
Yes, it is also racist, but endogamy and its degeneracy is also an important part of many H. P. Lovecraft's stories (for example, in "The Shadow over Innsmouth" or in "The Dunwich Horror"):

"Perhaps one reason - though it cannot apply to uninformed strangers - is that the natives are now repellently decadent, having gone far along that path of retrogression so common in many New England backwaters. They have come to form a race by themselves, with the well-defined mental and physical stigmata of degeneracy and inbreeding. The average of their intelligence is woefully low, whilst their annals reek of overt viciousness and of half-hidden murders, incests, and deeds of almost unnameable violence and perversity. "
The Dunwich Horror by H. P. Lovecraft

So, in this way, the Catalan separatists' endogamy and their thinking of being a different race fits pretty well in the Cthulhu Mytos.

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So you're saying that the Kingdom of Castille are the actual Catalans? I'm confused what you're saying.

Lets avoid the whole medieval catalan royal lineage thing lest we get stuck in that loop again.

No, I was only talking about ethimology. The francs conquered the north eastern part of Spain to the muslims and called it the "Marca Hispanica" (the Spanish March), that included today's Catalonia. And to those people that lived in the Spanish March, they called them Chatelains (in French it means people of the land of castles) because in other region of Spain the Christians were called Castilians ("Castellanos". It means also people of the land of castles). So Catalan is an evolution of Chatelain. There are many other theories, but this is the most plausible one.

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I'm gonna answer that in two ways: A) The idea of a nation of cthulhu cultists sounds interesting, but I don't know how close to the normal style stuff that is. Usually it's about secrecy and dark rituals in the night, not national-tier Mardi Gras of Madness levels.
Not all the Catalans would be cultists of Cthulhu, and most of them are inmigrants from the rest of Spain. Only some of them would be the descendants from the original Cthulhans. Probably those that are now in the government of Catalonia and leading the secesionist parties. Maybe some business owners and some rich-men. Only at a bourgeoisie level.

And B) Are you seriously equating the Catalan independence movement to like fucking Cthulhu cultists who want to bring about the end of the world by raising a great old one? Seriously? That's the nerdiest way to say your enemies are subversive degenerates I've heard of, but it's still fucking crazy. Yes, I realize it's fiction, but so were the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, doesn't make that any less horrible for the implications of your mindset.
It is only roleplaying. But they have some sectarian and fanatic ideas that makes them perfect for the role. Some of them claim to be an ancient ethnic group different from the rest of the Spanish, some of them claim they were an empire and they want it back, etc. Even the former president of the Government of the region of Catalonia (he was the president for 30 years and a Catalan nationalist) said that they should keep their blood clean and they should not marry Spanish from outside Catalonia or something like that.
There are many similarities.

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: June 18, 2015, 10:57:34 pm »
Okay, I think the Catalan talk can go on, just stay civil and let's maybe stop the nitpicking about the details of medieval succession out of this thread.

MetalRock, I'd also appreciate it if you could give supporting evidence to your claims (like those about international law), instead of just stating the same thing ad nauseum
As I have said before, I am no lawyer and I have no idea of international laws. The only thing I can do is to provide the experts' articles:

"In international law, the right of self-determination that became recognized in the 1960s was interpreted as the right of all colonial territories to become independent or to adopt any other status they freely chose. Ethnic or other distinct groups within colonies did not have a right to separate themselves from the "people" of the territory as a whole. Today, the right of groups to govern themselves is increasingly intertwined with human rights norms, in particular the rights of minorities and indigenous peoples. While no right to secession has yet been recognized under international law, it is possible that such a right may be accepted in the future as an exceptional measure, if a distinct group of people is systematically denied the right to participate in the government of the state or if individuals within such a group suffer systematic and gross violations of human rights that make their participation in that state impossible.

Those looking for "the" definition of self-determination will be disappointed, for many of the texts are deliberately ambiguous or even contradictory. Nonetheless, we must ultimately try to articulate the international norm of self-determination in terms that are sufficiently precise so that it continues to be relevant in the post-colonial era.

To concede to minorities, either of language or religion, or to any fractions of a population the right of withdrawing from the community to which they belong, because it is their wish or their good pleasure, would be to destroy order and stability within States and to inaugurate anarchy in international life; it would be to uphold a theory incompatible with the very idea of the State as a territorial and political unity.[5]

However, this commission did suggest that, at least under extreme oppression, a kind of self-determination by Åland citizens might be possible "as an altogether exceptional solution, a last resort when the State lacks either the will or the power to enact and apply just and effective guarantees."

The Princeton Encyclopedia of Self-Determination
http://pesd.princeton.edu/?q=node/254

Even taking in account the ambigous definition of self-determination, Catalonia does not meet its requirements in any way. Catalans are not and have never been a different ethnic group, a colony or oppressed (on the contrary, their industry and wealth was impulsed by the rest of Spain, so they are now the richest region), they have never been conquered by force and they have participated in the government of Spain as much as anyone. This is why the separatists in Catalonia claim the "right to decide" (which is invented by them and does not exist), because they do not meet the requirements for the right of self-determination.

Aw, if I can't nitpick historical details, then there's not much I can really say. Upside is that argument made me want to mod CKII to have a correct Iberia, so it wasn't all terrible.

My apologies to MetalRock, that argument stopped being about Catalan nationalists a long time ago.
No worries. I got too involved in this discussions, my fault.

In fact, the discussion in itself gave me an idea for a roleplaying campaign. Has anybody played the roleplaying game "the Call of Cthulhu" here or read any book of H. P. Lovecraft? What would happen if the Cthulhu nation existed? An ancient nation of Cthulhu sectarians that pervived from the Ice Age to our days. Now, the Cthulhans (the ancestors of the Catalans) are ready to expand themselves and conquer the world to spread their cult and prepare it for the accession of Cthulhu. They would start as a separatist movement in Catalonia, of course, but their true plan is to conquer the entire mediterranean coast (the Catalan Countries) and then the world. I know the idea needs more development, but this is promising.

By the way, the origin of the word Catalan is not Cuthulan (just in case somebody believes that). The most plausible theory is that the French called them Chatelain (people from the land of castles (chateaus)) in the 9th century. So it has the same meaning as Castilian (person from the land of castles).

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: June 05, 2015, 06:55:52 pm »
Hey, what do you know, the different Wikipedia pages on the same topic in different languages say different things. I think we've found our problem here. Also, of course she made her testament in Barcelona- she was abdicating her throne to her son, who ruled Barcelona. Why would she do it anywhere else?
The problem is that the Spanish wikipedia pages say more things about Spanish stuff than the English ones.
In the testament of Petronella I (Queen of Aragon and Countess of Barcelona) in 1164 she says: Petronila, «aragonensis regina et barchinonensis comitissa» (Queen of Aragón and Countess of Barcelona), abdicates in his son Alfonso «regi aragonensi et comiti barchinonensi» (the Kingdom of Aragón and the County of Barcelona). In Barcelona, 18 of July of 1164.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Digitalized testament:
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So Petronila was the Countess of Barcelona between 1162 and 1164, as I had said.

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