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Personally, I feel like the Army Swarmers complexity isn't going to be quite as offset as one might think. Really I think the biggest reason to make a Revision phase is just so we can work on improving the output speed of the Gates. Though we could also use a different Shift to create something that can be used to create Gate alternatives instead.

Other Shift ideas:
A fucking sun and moon(or an emulation of them) for day/night cycles, we're going to be pretty limited on what we can get from the Menagerie if we don't have those. I'd personally say it should be that the first half of a Battle Phase takes place under daylight, while the second half takes place under moonlight.
A way to create a persistent shelter for creatures we bring from the Menagerie, since we can't do that when the battlefield shifts every week. I'd recommend creating a decently sized "home base" for each faction, which remains consistent between battlefield shifts and would steadily change whenever a design that can theoretically contribute to it arrives.


Oh on the topic of the Messengers though: brilliant idea. Honestly, they even make it more viable to use non-sapient creatures in armies, since they can bypass the communication barrier with direct mind-to-mind instruction. I'm not sure on anything else though. Keep in mind Tric: I added the Elements, but there's not really any system of magic yet, nor is there necessarily any "elemental mana" or energy. I feel like we need to keep our applications of the elements more material in the short term.

Main design
Army Swarmer: (1) Jerick
Shieldbearers: ()
Flame Reaper: ()
Messengers: (1) Jerick

Mercenary Recruit
Support Unit ()
No requests yet (2): Jerick, Failbird

Shoot, I have to admit I've kinda had some of the wind sucked from my sails, especially because this has been a really bad week for me that I'm not going to be through with until the hard deadline is basically over. The concept of the Stymphalian is something I had come up with literally the exact same day the forums first went down, so any proper write-up for them vanished from my brain long before I was able to propose them. I'm kinda just drawing a blank on ideas in general right now.

Well, now that the forum is back, I wanted to pitch a unit design idea for this Shift:

Stymphalian's. Large birds(Natura base) with powerful wing muscles, beaks sharpened to a spear-point, and both beak and bone alike reinforced with metal(Earth), though the bones have it in more trace amounts than the beak. They'd fight enemies by dive-bombing in coordinated strikes like a volley of arrows.

I'd say Pawns should be made exempt from either potential handicap, just so the two teams always at least have a basic fighting force.

I personally either want revisions, or a resource Shift. I'll make one of the latter when I get home in a couple hours.

Update:

Six Core elements, magical fundamentals from which to be built upon. Fire, Water(yes that includes ice), Earth(Everything from metal to soil), Air, Electricity, Natura(Biological matter and Life). All in balance around the elementally neutral base that is Metacrystal.

With their formation, the creation of non-Metacrystal things becomes dramatically simplified, provided they are reasonably within the bounds of the elements. However the elements are not unlimited. To create a fully animate construct will require one of two things:

1. A basis in the biology from Natura, which are capable of higher speed and thought with less difficulty, but resist large scale integration of other elements and can be killed with things such as blood loss or destruction of vital organs.(Theoretically starvation is also an issue, but it's not hard to just produce lumps of plant/meat matter to be fed on)
or
2. A Metacrystal core, providing far more elemental flexibility and possessing no biological failings, but causing greater limitations in mental and physiological complexity.

Cloth Shroud should at least make it simple to form alts. Also got an idea to use the stuff to form golems with a central core, using it as a conductor. Overall a very productive turn.

Bulwarks can have a lesser version. Keep the shield, standard metacrystal durability. Perhaps we should shift a Revision Phase into being?

I think Revisions would be helpful. Especially because it'll allow us to adjust or fix things that the Reverse 6 might hand us.

Also, another unit idea I really want to try to do something with.

I like the thought of the Wizard + Bulwark combo. Though I don't know if we actually have cloth, squishy high-damage Caster hiding behind a big tank is a tried and true combo. I'll still vote for the Reaver(will vote when I get home) but I'll switch to Wizard if nobody has sided with me when the soft deadline starts to close in.

Also a concept I want to