Bay 12 Games Forum

sigh.  cant pull the 'old timer' card with me, LoSboccacc.

I'm as crass and cranky as anyone, but we still shouldn't be shits to people.  This thread is much MUCH better than some of the rest of Other Games, so it might not in reality be the best example of the problem.   

And I'll confess, scrolling back through, it doesn't look like anyone was actually rude to the guy since Tack's post on page 277, so we can all blame him for us not having a CM remake now.

But I'm still a bit put off -- not just about this, but about the anonymous forum in general.  This isn't a matter of being overly PC, no one here is fighting for social justice or anything like that.We can be crude and joke around, but we shouldn't be any different than we would be at the pub, right?

We're all here as guests of Bay12, and we should try to make sure that they have a decent and welcoming community so people stay, enjoy their game(s), and donate to the cause.

And I'm not the enforcer of that, you know?  And I don't want to be.  I want to joke around and be rude to guys like you and Nenjin, because you're grownups and can take it.  And in general, we lay off on the noobs until they get their feet under them. Like I said, there was exactly one rude post to the guy three pages back, and even after that Tack was pretty decent to him.

But the reality is, my Ignore list is now almost 40 users long, maybe this just isn't the place for me anymore.  It has been some good times since 2006, but I think there are fundamentally unresolvable problems with anonymous forums.

I think I'm out guys. I'll buy you a beer if we ever meet up, but I'm through with anon internet chatting.

You can actually delete accounts on here?
Crazy.

Good lord, if I knew how to do that I would have done it in a fit of drunken pique years ago. 

Next you'll tell me that I have the ability to alter my family and employment status.  Are you trying to destroy human society?

Serious for a moment:  This is a neat thread. I applaud all the effort people have put into the various games being prototyped here.  I think it is regretful that Potato didn't feel welcomed by our snarky banter, and I think that he probably had a great thing going.

I don't really care if his game (or any of the others) ever got made, I enjoy reading about the effort and the development process more than anything else.

Another defeat for the Imperium!

Pour one out for our fallen homie.

amen

I've started by sending a C&D to myself, just to head that off.

I see that my usual brand of dry deprecatory sarcasm would be of no help here.

Be cool to one another, yos. 

Continue making crazy fan projects.  Expect to fail.  Fail forwards, and continue on.  Such is life.  Drink deep.

We may have a new Adventure Mode goal, here.

Regardless, I think the key is that there is good will towards this game.  Plenty of people would like to see it, as evidenced by all the PTW lurkers, and a gap exists in the current marketplace.

All the news and press coverage from 2014ish was VERY positive, and there's no reason not to muddle past whatever the setbacks are -- even if it means stomping on the big red reset button.

shoot; day0 patches, day0 DLC, it's been happening for over a decade now, and it has nothing to do with the size of the development studio or the publishers behind the game.  Early Access and Kickstarter has just codified what was the big boys were already doing.

And lets be totally honest here:  It would have been happening in the 1980s If companies didnt have to get floppy disks to your local game store.  In the 70's if they had a way of remotely patching the audio cassette you hooked up to your 8 bit supercomputer.  It is only the distribution mechanism that was preventing it from happening previously.

But hey, that's fine.  I'd rather see lots of rapid innovation and fresh ideas and tiny indie games that don't work quite right but continue to get patched if they catch on.  The alternative is that you only ever see games that have a huge development and QA budget, which means someone is only going to fund it if it is a sure bet, which means a return to the doldrums of safe, derivative, boring games from the 90's and early 2000's.

Sure, there is a lot of slop out there.  But there is also lots of great stuff that we wouldn't get to play with otherwise.  It really seems to be a golden age for this kind of stuff.

I have not read any announcement that this has been shelved, so I remain cautiously hopeful?

It seems as though there is a significant audience for this thing, so I do hope the developer finds it worthwhile to continue it.