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compatibility with dark ages?

Compatibility between mods isnt much of a thing if major/overhaul mods fully change/replace the main entities, ect. So until the devs implement a better compatibility check system for raws, major mods/overhauls wont ever be compatible, unless the player themselves goes thru the raws and makes them compatible themselves.

Procgen items/materials cant get proper graphics currently, at least until toady allows use to use the divine_x in raws.

I did bring this up to Putnam in Kitfox discord prior, but this should probly be something in Suggestions as well.

Alot of non-modders tend to not understand how compatibility works with DF compared to other games and modding, with DF in order for us to change something with a vanilla defined creature/entity, we would have to just re-write it. Some people just CUT out the original, then just re-add it back in and paste it back in with the new things, under the same token name. While some mods do that, others re-define the name making the originals obsolete. So when the said player adds in a mod that gives the human PLAINS civ new weapons or workshops, to a mod that CUTS the PLAINS civ and adds in a X_PLAINS, it can't be added in.

This leaves the player the option to just add in the tokens themselves, or them just being deterred from wanting to use x mod cuz of this.



Suggestion:

Modders need to have some form of a mod id check system token for the [SELECT_X] tag. This will allow modders to make their mod compatible with other mods alot easier.

Example:
- Lets say a modder adds in a new workshop, but the player is using a mod that redefined the entity so it cannot just easily do [SELECT_ENTITY:PLAINS] to add the new tokens to it..

Compatible way:

[SELECT_ENTITY:NEW_PLAINS:IF:(mod id that adds in the first mod's workshop)]
 
^ This will allow the modder that made the re-defined entity to check if a mod is present, if it is, the mod will add in the new workshop to the defined entity. If the mod id does not exist, the tokens are not added.

"but what about it adding tokens to the normal defined entities/creatures?"

[SELECT_ENTITY:PLAINS:IF:(mod id)]

Would be the same as well. If the mod id is not present upon world generation, it skips over this.




This addition would be greatly appreciated and would be beneficial considering how annoying it is that non-modders dont understand how DF works for mod compatibility wise on Steam.

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.,;';,.,;'Gielinora Scape: A Runescape Overhaul Mod';,.,;',.
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This mod aims to Overhaul the Dwarf Fortress world with new Metals, creatures and races to play as!

Before you play this mod, be sure you be somewhat knowledgeable on how Dwarf Fortress works, it is highly advised to not try this mod if you are fairly new since this does make a few changes and makes the game a bit more difficult. Also please remember this is an OVERHAUL mod, meaning it overhaul/changes quiet a few things, so most other mods will not be compatible.




What is in this mod?
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As of right now, there is:
- 9 playable races in Fortress Mode and 14+ races for Adventure Mode.
- MANY new creatures found within the world of Runescape.
- a Reworked metal ore system, introducing metals from the world of Runescape.
- Different Semimega and Megabeasts.
- Couple more weapons to fill a few gaps.
- Change in drinks to help races that are not alcohol dependant.
- Soon to come Magic system.

Suggestions, Plans, and Bug Issues
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- You can help suggest things in this thread, as well as see the plans for the future as well as report bugs in the discussion page. Info found on the 2nd post below this one.

Note: Before bringing up a issue or bug, triple check DF Wiki and Kitfox Bug discussion for your issue before posting, people tend to have Vanilla DF issues, which will be ignored.

This mod is just in the begining, so there is ALOT more to come!



Downloads:
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- For both Itch/Classic: https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=16346

Usually modders have easy access to Arena/Adv Mode/DFHack to help speed up the process of testing things... but we gotta wait for that due to obvious reasons.

I double checked raws and it didnt seem like anything changed for trading with caravans, etc. I did hear about that Caravans now need to be traded with other civs to gain their trust in order for them to bring wagons to your fortress.

BUT With my mod I have had people complain about issues of trade caravans having nothing, or soon to be nothing. Tho from what I can tell from the little that some provided me, is that their civ was at war and I do remember there being a mechanic of, if your civ was at war and losing big time, caravans wont have much, or anything, or wont even show up in those cases.

Am I losing my mind and missing something that was changed, or are people just coming across a vanilla related mechanic that isnt discussed much?

Edit: Also reason why I am asking is because I didnt have this issue ever in 47.x