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Or if you don't wanna cheat, trigger a loyalty cascade?

So the fortress I created a few days ago was kind of teetering on the edge of a tantrum spiral, so I decided to give it up. But instead of just deleting the save, I did something different this time: I made a full set of masterwork Adamantine gear, retired the fortress, and started an adventurer from there to pick the gear up.

So far I've fought some random criminals, and killed a night troll from a quest. Just now though, I found a town to rest in for the night (used social skills as dump stats so I couldn't recruit anyone in my starting place) and I found a couple *s walking around on the map. The first one was a prisoner who couldn't explain why they were there and begged me to take them with me, which I did. The second group was a dwarf lord, and a few goblins. Nothing too unusual at first glance, goblins can end up in other societies in worldgen.

Things get a little more interesting when I start talking to him, though:


Taking a peek at Legends, the dwarf lord was abducted at the age of 2 by goblins and grew up in their society. 69 years later, the goblins made a couple attacks on The League of Monasteries, a human group, the second one led by this guy. He ended up imprisoned, but not long after escaped and became the lord of The League of Monasteries.

As for my new human buddy, he was apparently attacked by the night troll as a child but managed to survive, then a year later was abducted by the same goblins as the lord--then a few years later abducted from them by a different group, and ultimately ended up leading an attack on The League of Monasteries a year after the dwarf took control of it, and ended up imprisoned by them, until I helped free him.

Made a new fortress with a goal of subjugating all the elves in the world, seems like I'm not the only one with the same goal:
Does anyone know exactly what being "economically linked" to me entails?

edit: oh and this ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Most of my dwarves' changes are due to retching on miasma (the occasional cave monster comes up into my fort and gets slaughtered by my military and then they take their sweet time getting the corpse out), but I found a few more interesting ones in with the rest:

My attempts to plunder sites for arcane secrets have not gone well on this adventurer.

First I killed everything in a necromancer tower. I led out all the undead to kill them out of immediate site, and butchered all their corpses as insurance against being fully animated again, before heading in to take out the necromancers. Tedious work, and all my stupid companions got killed, but not that hard over all. Going through all their stupid books I finally found the slab, read it, and...nothing. Look it up apparently I can't get the secrets of life and death because I'm an immortal race, according to the Internet. Strike one.

Then I find a vault, plunder it thoroughly, but I don't get any demony goodness because apparently the demon got killed like a chump in worldgen. Well, at least I got some decent gear, better than all the lame iron stuff. And looking up the other vaults in the XML dump, the other closest one got its demon killed too, just a year before the end of worldgen. Though, if these guys go down so easily, not sure if it'd even be worth it having them around, now that I think about it.

I've experimented with this a bit. Dropping them with a retracting drawbridge to traps below is the easiest way, and only requires pulling the level to repeat it, but cave-in dust seems to be more effective at knocking them out without injuries. For that I used a support with a constructed floor on it, linked to a lever. You pull the lever and you get an artificial cave-in.

Unfortunately you can't do much with caged sentients. No enslaving or butchering them. Unless you wanna force them to fight other creatures for amusement or defense, it's easier to just outright kill them by dumping them in a drowning room or something, then looting their free stuff.

I finally got a working magma minecart elevator up and running. I tried to idiot-proof the accesses so dwarves wouldn't have any reason to climb in randomly.

Emphasis on tried.