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Quote from: NJW2000 on February 21, 2024, 04:04:12 pm

Sooo... Max. If you think it's soloscum quarque + a thief, then who would be the framer that keeps getting mentioned in roleflips?

That's almost certainly the thief's ability, since thiefing is what we are supposed to be looking for. It wouldn't logically fit with Quarque's powerset at all.

If I were a mafia godfather/framer - seriously, I don't think Tric is that bad at game design - then I would have framed the guy I specifically told you to target, and you would have inspected Oliverz as mafia (unless we're talking about that bizarre frame-as-3p power you mentioned, which would be awfully weird for a mafia member to have, but whatever). If you think I'm really the thief as a framer, that would mean once again that everyone you were supposed to be able to find was unfindable to you as a cop, which is just unreasonably cruel to believe Tric would do. I am not going to seriously indulge either of these possibilities. I know you find me naturally suspicious but please just stop being paranoid. I consider you essentially locktown and I think if we work together we can easily win this, but I'm afraid you're going to blow it on me.

I want you to seriously think about how differently Quarque and I would have played if we were both magic unfindable mind-control mafia. Don't be like Imp and just give in to the temptation to say "crazy Max might do anything!", you know I only do things that I think are actually a good idea. I don't just completely gimp myself for no reason at all out of some kind of random whimsy. And no I don't do things JUST for WIFOM if it doesn't actually BENEFIT ME.
And by the way, if I was really teamed with Quarque I would have known that Imp was telling the truth, so pushing so hard yesterday would have been just stupid and wasteful. Sure, Imp was accusing me, but nobody else was listening! We both know that I enjoy taking my biggest accusers to LYLO sometimes. That was 100% me as town trying to remove a player who would end up blowing the game in the clutch regardless of whether that player is town or scum.

Continuing to operate from the assumption that Tric did not completely screw you over for kicks, I'm guessing that the thief frames but is not itself a godfather, so that you actually have someone to find. That means Oliverz could reasonably just be the actual thief, but given that we repeatedly talked about inspecting Oliverz yesterday, it's probably worth considering that it could just be Crystal or sofanthiel. It would be nice if sofanthiel would also fullclaim.
The great news is that if you actually accept me as town, NJW, we literally have enough time between us to systematically lynch everyone else until we win. I realize expecting that much trust from you is never going to happen, NJW, but I still hope you somehow can surprise me. I'm willing to extend that much trust to you even though I don't know you're not also the thief.

i dont like this post at all.
Yesterday you said that You voted Imp because of your alleged "red check", now apparently it is because you didnt want to have him in lylo (the game could have ended yesterday already, tho!)

Max

I dont trust NJW's results already, as i know that it was wrong once, it is perhaps wrong again. I am now going to work and wont be able to play, so this is my vote for the day.

So far we got the following claims:

NJW: COP
d1: Max Town
d2: Oli "Thief"

Oli: Rolename COP
d1: /
d2: Sofanthiel "The Auctioneer"

Max: ??
d1: Imp
d2: Sofanthiel

Crystalized Mire: ??

Sofanthiel: ??


I might have overlooked or skipped something, if so, please quote and/or repeat it

Quote from: Oliverz144 on February 21, 2024, 11:36:56 am

Quote from: Maximum Spin on February 21, 2024, 10:51:59 am

Okay, so, that's not a counterclaim and doesn't even mean you're not also the thief.

But look, we have time to lynch more people if you turn out to be town.

After sofanthiel confirms me being a rolename cop, it pretty much proves me town.

You realize that rolecops are frequently a scum role in the first place, right?

a) not rolename cops.
b) not as a third party neutral thingy, more like a group scum then...

so sorry =) i am split opinion between who it is: You or NJW
because Max claimed imp scum, which wasnt true...

Quote from: Oliverz144 on February 21, 2024, 09:07:35 am

I hard counterclaim! Claim Your night 1 action!

I gave it yesterday, but sure.

I inspected Max, and they inspected as Town.

...

I guess the polite thing to do here is ask for your counterclaim?

I am "The Chef"
I can role-name cop people.
d1 i copped nobody because i was afk, sadly
d2 i copped Sofanthiel and got "The Auctioneer" as a result.
Dear @sofanthiel please confirm this.
The reason i decided on sofa was because I did not want to target a possible town vig target.
Also me claiming YESTERDAY with NO result (as i sleeped d1) Would just put a giant target on my back, as i have a very strong Town Power Role.

NJW2000

IMP
Voting a red check

I used my ability on Imp during the previous day.

The way I see it, there are - let me copy sofanthiel and do three main possibilities:

• Imp is scum.
• oliverz144 is scum and missed the night. But why would Quarque jump in front of a bus for no reason at all to save a partner who isn't playing, with that entirely decent ability set?
• NJW2000 is scum and did a really great gambit I'm very proud of him for.

wait what
what does this mean