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People lived in the Western world tend to forget the entire Europe + North American population is about 1 billion only 1/7 of the entire human population (no even match the population of China alone). Major population on Earth lived in Asia. (Especially East and South Asia, like China and India). And major population growth concentrate in Nigeria, Pakistan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Brazil, India. Even China has positive population growth of using the birth control policy for so long. As long as these countries maintain their population growth, and immigrate the excessive population to wealthy country, there is good chance total human population growth rate will maintain for several decades. (Today it's still 1% annually over all)

The birthrate in all these regions, including Africa, is falling. Sure, we'll still grow. But 1 trillion people by 2500 is a baseless assumption, since the current 1% growth rate is falling.

Actually the economy is worse with Obama's stimulus than it would have been without his stimulus, according to his own estimates. So no, it probably could have been better.

I got the deluxe edition. Fuck the hats, fuck the guns, fuck the unlocks, a very coy wink to the assault badge and the bayonet and I will be going to the movies. But the beta? Yes. Here, TWI. Have nine more dollars, and now let me help you.

Well you've been driving for four and a half years, 'inherited' it two and a half years ago, and have pretty much been slamming the gas toward a cliff at 100% of GDP the whole time. So kindly find your brake pedal and lets ease back to 65% of GDP where we were when you took the wheel from us, and maybe we can make a U-turn without flipping sideways in a few decades.

Contrary to popular notions, budgets are passed by Congress, not the President. The President can merely propose a budget and sign it after Congress gnaws on it for a while. So while a lot of people want to say Clinton paid down the debt and Bush jacked it back up again, the truth of the matter is Clinton was merely President while Republicans laid out the budget, and Bush has the 2000 downturn and two wars to pay for. Even so, the debt when Republicans lost Congress to the Democrats was still at 1997 levels. Obama and the Democratic congresses proceeded to return to the 81-94 trajectory. It is almost sad to see any previous fiscal condition be better than the current one, yet everyone (in this thread, at least) blames today's 100% of GDP debt on Bush's 65% exit point.

There's no reason to presume 1% population growth. Countries that grow sufficiently wealthy adopt negative population growth, and many countries with high birth rates barely manage their own replacement rates. Lastly, the UN reports everyone on earth could be fed 2700 calories with current crop yields.

The planet is underpopulated, really.

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You KNOW you're full of shit but try to pass it off anyways.

Too aggressive for this thread; "Intellectually dishonest" is ok, "full of shit" is not.

I dunno, people were screaming 'facist neo-feudalist' earlier.

Shot down by every single Republican, you say? It was not. It was blocked. Two democrats voted against cloture with one Republican voting for, with the whole proposal dead on arrival anyway. So when only one party puts forward a viable plan able to actually pass the House and Senate, you really can't say the party putting forward the plan is to blame. Besides, these are the same Democrats who raised the debt four trillion dollars in the last three years, compared to Bush, in all his villiany, raising the debt five trillion in eight. That's practically spending twice as fast. Democrats had control of the purse strings for years and years, and every time the debt limit came up they asked for a bigger line of credit without any attempt to slow down their spending. So if you're concerned the party that had control of congress, and so the budget, for the last four years or so might be blamed for a financial crisis occuring you should have raised that consideration back in 2007 when your party took legislative power. You are now reaping what you've sown.