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In the course of forging his servants, from the various races he had collected in the Pit of Angband, the First Dark Lord Morgoth infused them with a piece of his own will and essence. A circular thread, forged from his own corrupt, divine essence, which plays an infinite loop of his own burning hatred and cruelty inside them.

For this reason all of his children, not just the orcs and goblins who can claim elven heritage, but the rock trolls and fire dragons are all descended from the fallen Valar himself. Unless killed they do not die.

They are demigods.

It was this habit of weaving parts of himself into his many creations that ultimately left him frail enough to be defeated by mortal arms, even at great cost. His successors are generally mindful to improve on his methods, even as they use the tools he left behind.

Oh, you mean in DF?

Yeah, your answer makes sense.

Toady stated on several occasions, in the devblog, that diseases would be implemented using the curse/syndrome structure, once he got around to it.

Formations are under the army arc already.

Vermin traps already do require bait, but I think he's planning to redesign the whole trap system, before he starts adding new features to it again.

So, yeah. All these have been suggested and accepted before. --which means they are good ideas, but it also means there isn't much else to say about them.

That gives some interesting tradeoffs from a gameplay perspective.

The more officials you have the more offices you'll need and you'll have more dwarves who aren't doing other jobs. So you can opt to micro manage one guy for each post (like now) or just spam a bunch of them, but need to build an infrastructure to support that.

Integrating guilds into the economy does seem like the way to go when it comes to giving dwarves more control over their destinies.

After all that's why guilds and unions form.

Carping about highly idiosyncratic play-styles aside, room based nodes have a lot of advantages and very few drawbacks (such as requiring us to all own coprocessors that haven't been invented yet).

They provide easy hooks for workshop-to-room relationships that players can leverage intuitively. Currently, a workshop works best with a built in stockpile, and stairs to matching stockpiles above an below, but checking for items within the path node first would make for the same efficiency without the bizarre architecture. (If you don't currently build optimal workshops, that would make it easier to learn, if you ever wanted to.)

Treating hatches and floodgates as doors for purposes of recalculation would provide for three dimensional separations and a level of water system awareness.

I'm already placing locked doors over unused mine  shafts, to prevent them from bogging down pathing, this would allow me to leave those doors unlocked. (I don't remember my numbers, but I did test that this had an effect on complex exploratory tunnels near population centers.)

Even if the system only recognized player designated areas, like burrows, zones and rooms, the potential gains would be respectable. Even just cataloging "dead end" rooms, with only one exit, would be a considerable boon.

Crafty players already place doors over bedrooms (regardless of how many occupants they have) and workshops, so that moody dwarves, thieves, wild animals or riots can be contained by locking a couple of doors. Low framerates would serve as a reminder to do so.


That said, like so much else, it isn't perfect.

The largest drawback that I see is actually the four way intersection. Some forts place a door at the corner where four walls meet, connecting four nodes with a singe door. To compensate, the code simply needs to allow for this, for example, treating the door themselves as nodes.
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Additionally, treating stairs as nodes has some merit, but many forts use large blocks of stairs, which would lead to tracking an awful lot of stairs and possible memory problems.

A thousand times yes!

We need monsters that steal socks.

I just love how people keep saying this game is for autists despite the fact I have a form of autism 

It's just so much easier to call people names, than to construct a reasoned argument.

It's song you've all heard before: Interface streamlining is not a priority right now. Those of you demanding "streamlined interface nao, or i wont donate!" Grow up. It's a good thing there are people willing to donate to the production of this game, giving you a free ride.

Those of you shouting them down with strawman arguments about games playing themselves. Grow up, too. The game is a long way from perfect, and the interface kind of sucks. Quick shortcuts to common actions can live in harmony with fine control, and I believe they will. Call me a mooney idealist.

Those of you putting in suggestions for ways to streamline the interface, kudos. This is good stuff, and we need more of it.

I'd like it if dwarves who had money and homes, but no furniture, would buy beds and chests that they needed. That way lazy players just have to ensure that enough beds were available, but picky players would have time to lay out all the rooms manually. The issues with property ownership need to be fixed first.