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im pretty sure when water evaporates it disappears, so no.

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Is there a real-life way to do this with the available technology of DF? Like for example evaporating water in an enclosed space, leaving the salt which is somehow removed, for then to let the vapour cool and become water again?

Water doesn't magically vanish into thin air when it evaporates in reality. So if it's possible to do it in reality, the real-life method should be incorporated into DF.

The still/distillery/brewery discussion is very relevant to my interests.

using the technology the dwarfs have available, yes, they could easily distill water. it isn't implemented in the game, but you can distill water with nothing more than a pot, a fire, and a sheet of metal (or any material really) and something to collect it in. heat water in pot, place sheet above it at a slanted angle. water boils, steam goes up, condenses on the sheet, runs down the slant into the collection vessel. salt/other impurities remain in the pot. dorfs could easily produce a 'real' still that would do the same thing in a more efficient fashion.

you can't directly make a pressure plate/lever send the opposite signal, no. activated pressure plate = on signal. you can however make use of the fact that different objects do different things when they receive an 'on' signal.

you could use a 'triggers once' pressure plate linked to a raising bridge, rather than a door. bridges operate opposite from doors/floodgates, in that an ON signal makes them raise (close) instead of lowering/opening. bridges however have a 100 step activation delay versus doors which are instant

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Lever#On.2FOff_states lists all the objects that can be linked to a lever/pressure plate and how they react to each signal.

if you wanted to use water, you could just build a setup like this:

side view:
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XhX floor hatch, linked to your invader-sensing-pressure-plate
XpX water pressure plate, set to 0-0, linked to emergency doors
XXX
dump in some water on top of the floor hatch (with a pond zone above), then when an invader hits the pressure plate, the hatch will open, drop some water on the lower plate, which will de-activate (since anything but completely dry = OFF) and slam shut your doors, until you drain the tile with the plate (or open the doors manually with a seperate lever). this will however incur a minimum 100 step delay, as pressure plates activate instantly, but take 100 steps to 'deactivate' once the selected conditions are no longer met, plus the small delay of the water falling

also might effect hunting from a brief glance at the DT site

[edit]hunting ninja'd by 1 second!

huh, i tried that several times, didn't work, asked on the forums and was told it wasn't possible. i guess they can, it's just another hit-and-miss bug.

how do you set it up in regards to the alerts (the weapon switch)?

but you can't make them change their gear based on alert level :/

personally I would recommend any new player to start with 40d. I don't think the merge is that far off, and you can begin familiarizing yourself with the basics of the game, with a version that's essentially bug/issue free, and fully documented (all the tutorials are for 40d)

i'm only going off what i remember from df talk, but currently i think it only forbids them from marrying their parents, children, and siblings. cousins and aunts/uncles are allowed