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Quote from: Xazo-Tak on December 21, 2015, 12:24:51 am

Is the migrant system as we know it going to be replaced soon?
It's always felt weird and annoying, and the thing of fully customising your starting dwarves never seemed right also.

Scenarios arc which should be the big release after the next arc (Myths, artifacts and magic dorfs), should revamp the whole migrant system. So...6 months of updating and bug fixing for this release, a year or so for the next arc, 6 months of bug fixing updating.....

So, not soon. But it's planned.

I don't foresee 6 months of bug fixing for this release. It wasn't that long last time, and .42 is a smaller release. I'd guess Toady is working on the next release by February or March. From there, the next release could take anywhere from 9 to 18 months based on the little bit we know about the plans. Then another big fix break, then start work on that next release which includes the starting scenarios. This assumes there isn't a major change in the near-term dev plans...which is probably not a safe assumption.

How will it go? Will it be burned? Will it have actual graphics? (without mods)

Post your thoughts, this applies to Dwarf Mode and Adventure Mode.

Well, 5 years will be at least 5 more major releases and probably a few of the significant but lesser releases as well. At a minimum I would expect the current dev arc items in the current dev page to all be completed to some degree.  Its a good thing Toady is already toying with 64 bit because we'll need the unlimited memory to handle all the complexity. (I personally think the 32 bit memory bottleneck is a much bigger problem than the lack of multi-core support)
  It should be much much more of a full fledged Fantasy World Simulator at that point. Adventure Mode will be A LOT more interesting with A LOT more options. Fortress Mode will have expanded to include Hill Dwarves and control over Dwarven Armies, etc. I.E. you can play as a Dwarven Kingdom and not just a single Fortress, if you desire to. We'll also have the starting scenarios which should add a lot more variety and focused Fortress Game Play, etc.

Personally the simulation stuff is what excites me the most. And the vision of Adventure Mode within the Simulation. I'm very much looking forward to doing things like starting as a peasant Outsider human and being able to have him rise through the ranks all the way to founding a powerful Merchant Family or becoming King and then having actual game play as King or head of said Merchant Family, etc. Or be a Pirate captain with my own Pirate Ship and crew within a fully simulated fantasy world.  Stuff like this. Or just being able to go into God Mode and just watch the world unfold while occasionally Trolling NPC's and generally being a capricious Greek-style God   Hell, just standing on a street corner in a random town and watching the procedural simulation play out around me could entertain me for a long time. Even in the current version I can sit in a crowded tavern and just marvel at all the activity - and this is still just the palest glimmer of what is coming. I've seen enough now to have confidence in Toady pulling off the Fantasy world Simulator vision.

I have some hope that third party utilities will keep advancing as well, perhaps all the way to having alternate clients with isometric views, and such?

With the new patch fixes and updated LNP, we've finally reached a stable build of the new taverns/temple/libraries update. Toady, you have spoiled us. This game before was amazing, when dwarves idled in the meeting hall. Now, we have real, breathing cities. People come and go, brawls break out in bars, books and song are all detailed and randomly generated, and all of this ON TOP of the deep gameplay from 2014.

Long story short, thank you for providing us with this godlike game.

Seconded. With this release on top of .40 we're really getting a good taste of what is to come. Its still a skeleton but some of the tendons are in place and its starting to flop around on the ground Really looking forward to some of the coming development arcs on top of what we already have!

Ships will probably start as accessories to trade, but I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of naval army/combat system is added at the same time.

The skipped bits of the Tavern section include recipes, drink quality, games and gambling, and "Set Prices/Activities." You can find this on the development page here, along with other tantalizing details about what is entailed by the imminent Artifacts and Starting Scenarios development.

Adventure Mode will be TRULY amazing once some more of the development arcs are completed. I'm looking forward to being an actual Pirate, Fortune & Glory Archaeologist, Merchant Baron, and the like, in an actual simulated fantasy world. It feels a lot closer after the last couple releases, the bones of it are coming together, just needs a lot of fleshing out and bug fixes. Even in the current release I'm already in awe of what Toady has accomplished. You can stand in the middle of a typical town and watch the hustle and bustle, visit the rowdy Tavern, get yelled at by peddlers in the Market, delve into the sewers for adventure, etc. But its still just a pale shadow of where its headed if you look at some of the coming dev arcs.

Well LCS is more of a text/ASCI strategy game than a regular rougelike, although it does have those tactical sequences admittedly. I'm wondering if there are other similar text/ASCI strategy oriented games out there.

BTW 'prospector' does look awesome, looks almost like Dwarf Fortress in space, crossed with 'star flight'.

Keep in mind that Dwarf Fortress is single threaded which means it cannot take advantage of multiple cores. So the processor speed is a lot more important than the number of cores. I would suggest a high-end current-gen intel  i7...the latest one is up past 4 ghz even without over-clocking.
   Also lots of good RAM and an ssd drive.
 

Man, once we get a few of the bug fix releases out of the way this version in adventure mode is going to be so EPIC. Its already fun even with the crashes and various janky behaviors...imagine when we can actually block stuff and enemies don't always cower in fear or run away I'll kind of miss the uber-stealth that seems to let me utterly destroy enemies even as a peasant with no sneak skills The conversation system is already AWESOME but could be 1000% improved by the ability to filter/sort in some of the sub-menu's. Also, the NPC's do get a bit spammy with repeated statements at times, that could probably be throttled back a bit.

The best part is that we now have proof that Toady can actually pull off the long term vision, we have a mostly functional ALIVE world now, even if its just the foundations at this point and even if there's a few janky behaviors to fix. The basic guts of the active world are here now and mostly working!