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On several occasions I've encountered in Legends Mode and Legends Viewer dwarven cults who worship forgotten beasts. Some were dead when I stopped WorldGen, others were still alive.

Now my question:
Did anyone experience the case that among your dwarves some of them were part of such cult/sect AND that some time into Fort Mode said god/forgotten beast did appear? And even was slain?
The reason for asking:
Will this (or could this) cause bad moods or other reactions for killing your own god? I doubt that the cult/sect will depart, as this whole feature is kinda new (maybe such things will happen in future interations of DF), but will (or could) this scenario lead to consequences at all?

The questions in regard to reviving dead dwarven civs are many, I know, but this one in particular I didn't see anywhere:
Did someone experience reviving a dead civ by bringing war to other civs?

The reason behind this question is:
I've rolled a world, looked at legends viewer and legends mode to get a feel for it and tried to decide which civs could be the chosen targets to play a bigger role (forced by me and my dwarves in adventure/fortress mode). The usual stuff. In legends viever I saw that there was one dead dwarven civ. Dead is dead, not just merely dying, and legends viewer confirmed it. And by starting with adv. mode (my usual setup for starting many, many games in a certain world) I couldn't choose this civ (I couldn't choose another civ which states that this civ is dying - and it's the most intersting civ I've encountered in a long time: Just one fort at the outskirts of a sprawling evil landscape , completely surrounded by mountains, cut off from the rest of the world with no interactions between any other civs - lost by time and space and in constant warfare against the monstrous beasts sitting alongside them in this huge bowl of terrifying and haunted tundra. My fingers itch at the thought of bringing this dwarven entity back to life by forming more fortresses inside this big crater filled with husks and unimaginable terror...but that's another story.).

Some weeks passed, my adventure retired (forcefully by a decapitating blow - I guess, a night troll isn't just someone who loves memes at night) and I looked at legends again.
The dead dwarven civ got a king.
Which was struck by a human in a freshly started war.
The dead civ immediatly got a new king.
I looked closer.

The dead dwarven civ once was eaten by an elven civ (not just literally). Surviving dwarves got part of an elven group inside the civ but remained part of their dwarven civ (but not of their particular dwarven groups which were replaced by the elven one). So far, so good.

If I embark with this dead civ, some time in the future my king will show up and live by my side. (Or he will be replaced by some of my dwarves if he decides to die by another human as his predecessor did.) The relevant question now is:
If I start a war with the elven civ (and the particular elven group of which my king is part of), logic says that my king will become enemy of said civ (and group) and will no longer be part of it. Instead he will be just part of my group and the dwarven civ. Ongoing from this thought: Is it possible to revive the dwarven civ by just starting a war and breaking free from the treehuggers? (I know that you need more: More people, more places, more bureaucracy, more of all to bring back a civ from dying - but is it possible to bring the civ to just dying by starting the war? I could test this, yes, but I don't want to screw things up, if my thoughts are correct, therefore I would need planning and some "precausions". If someone else experienced the same situation I would love to hear what happended in their histories and to their civs.)

Since some versions you can craft your own art/determine the outcome of your own art.
For simplicity I will refer to Adventure Mode:
Kill something, butcher it and craft a figurine out of its bone. In the craft-menu you can specify what your figurine shall look like. You can give this new art/image a name, too - if you don't want to name it, then it will be auto-named. So far, so good. But...
When your figurine is crafted it will bear the name of the first component which you've used in your image. The name of the image itself isn't displayed. The only way to see this name: Craft a new figurine and choose "Use already existing image" (this point will only contain images you defined, images defined in worldgen or by other persons in the world will never show up) - there the name and a short description are displayed.

Question Number 1:
Is the name of this newly crafted art/image saved? Somewhere? So that I can look it up?

Which leads me to the second part - Legends Mode:
In Legends you can discover "Art" - images (and the names of these) which you found throughout your adventures by looking at gold coins, decorated items, etc.
So far, so good. But...
The images you crafted by making a figurine aren't visible at Legends. When I look at my newly crafted item - no entry. When another adventurer looks at the crafted item of an earlier adventurer - no entry.

Question Number 2:
Is there any way to "unlock" the whole Art-entry in Legends to verify if my created images are saved within the world? And to marvel at my own craftsmanship?
(I don't understand why this Art-entry is locked - even if you force the game to reveal all history, you still have to discover the images manually by finding and looking at them. No problem for me - IF my crafted images would appear, too.)