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No no, not the game in general.  It's still fun.

But the dwarves themselves have gotten dull.  They used to be kind of unpredictable and crazy, weird art/industry-obsessed crazy people who lived in holes and flipped out over the smallest issues.

Now they can watch their entire families get killed and eaten, but then just shrug and keep on making stone crafts.

What happened?  Is it the new emotion system?  Most of my dwarves have miles of "didn't feel anything seeing so-and-so die" and they just seem to be boring robots.

I don't need beds, different booze, a dining room, tables, chairs, anything.  They're perfectly fine being robots who collapse whenever they need a recharge and then go right back to doing emotionless work.

I miss tantrums and tantrum spirals and actual problems.  I rarely even get goblin sieges anymore.

Has the game gotten less fun as it has progressed, for other people?

You'd think caravans would be accustomed to dealing with attackers, given how often people get ambushed in adventure mode.



But no, this caravan is going nuts because they lost a couple wagons before my military could scramble.  Is this typical behavior?

I mean, I can understand the dwarven merchants, but their animals get melancholic/mad/berserk because they lost their riders?

Is this intended behavior?

Basically I had a 30-dwarf migrant wave a bit ago, which is nice in a way.  However, not one of them had any active jobs as they came on site.  In the previous version they'd be set to do whatever they were best at, at the very least.  Now they all just come in with varying skills and only peasant-level jobs active.

It's sort of a pain to have to pause and assign each dwarf that pops onto the screen as they do, just to get them to do the things they are good at.

Ok, so I'm playing a 2x2 fort on a mountain/grassland biome.  That shouldn't matter, but I figured I'd mention it.

I've got maybe ten dwarves that were given weapons (random leftover goblin junk) to train with.  They are the whole of my military aside from a cadre of marksdwarves.  I gave them spears, hammers, axes, swords, whatever was left.

Ok, so they go and spar.  Thing is, they level wrestling more than anything else.  Yes, they have the weapons in their inventory, and they gained skill with them occasionally, but usually wrestling.

Eventually, they became champions (of wrestling) and tossed aside their weapons.

What's going on?  Am I missing something here?  Shouldn't they use a weapon if they are assigned that weapon, and thus train in that weapon?

Ok, first time ever, I made it to Mountainhome.  I look to see the king, and there it sits.  An E.  I have So-and-so-and-so-and-so, Elf King as my regent.

Well, fine, whatever.  That explains the elven liaison I kept getting.  However, the problem is that I can't seem to assign the guy the room I made for him.  He's just not on the list.  He's in the dining room just standing around, probably once his migrant status wears off he'll go crazy because his lessers have rooms while he does not.

I've assigned rooms during migrant status before.  What's up?



Edit:  Image.  Also, he's "Quick to anger".  I wonder how he felt walking past all the treestumps on the way to my fort.

Another edit:  Maybe he's the reason my group was named "The Frilly Boot".  Bloody elves.

Ok, here goes.

We've all played DF through and through.  We know how it goes.  Z-levels, roadless wagons, hills, valleys, endless farming, the whole works.

Ha!  No.  This game is using the last of the 2D versions.  That's right:  No z-levels!  Build roads if you want useful caravans!  No FPS higher than 50!  Reflood farms every year!  Flooding rivers!  Magma!  Demons!  Guild representatives!  Dangerous depths!

Anyway, rules are similar to Boatmurdered.  One week from the posting of the save for you to take your turn, or you are skipped.  We revert on unfixable issues, like world floods and massive tantrum spirals.  Feel free to steal ideas from places, hell, a lava cannon wouldn't really be a bad idea.  No cheaty crap like huge long bridges to kill demons, but you can magma the chasm if you want.

Also no mining Adamantine.  We are trying to survive here.

I'm taking names for starting.  Be aware that you only have a week to FINISH your turn once the previous guy finishes.  If that doesn't sound like something you can do, then don't sign up.   Also be aware that you need to not kill the fort.  Feel free to toss in your two cents on what sort of starting equipment we should take.

Notably, there has been a minor rule change due to skippage:

Also new rule:  You need to post an acknowledgment of your turn within three days of your turn starting.  That will help against wasting a week on a complete no-show.  Anyone who doesn't post at least "Ok, I've got the save now" or something akin to that will get skipped for no-show.

Something useful: http://archive.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Main_Page  That's the old wiki.

Strike the earth!

1.Dadamh (done)
2. Iluogo (done)
3. Glacies (skipped, time)
4. PTTG?? (done)
5. webadict (skipped, scheduling)
6. Aqizzar (Skipped, scheduling)
7. NTheGreat (Done)
8. (name here) (Done)
9. Sukasa (Skipped for No Response)
10. Fita (Skipped)
11. Jools (Done)
12. Dadamh (Done)
13. Torak (Done)
14. filiusenox (Skipped)
15. Legolord (Skipped)
16. Squeegy (Skipped)
17. Aqizzar (Done)
18. Eita (Postponed (21))
19. (name here) (Done)
20. Sukasa (Done)
21. Eita (Postponed again 'cause of Eternal Halls (23))
22. LegoLord (Done)
23. Eita (Skipped)
24. Kiri (Done)
25. PTTG? (Skipped)
26. (name here) (Done)
27. ChazzyBurger (Skipped)
28. Katsuun (Skipped)
29. barny (Skipped, No Response)
30. Dadamh (Idiot waiting three weeks without even posting)
31. amazoph (SKipped)
32. ChazzyBurger (Skipped)
33. ToonyMan (Done)
34? webadict (Current?)
34. Walliard
35. knightedskull
36. That Zero Guy
37. Akhier the Dragon hearted
38. Samus1111111
39. (name here)

I lost a fort to HFS.

I then ran in and lost an adventurer to HFS.

However, now I'm trying to reclaim.  However, whenever I try to reclaim that fort, I get a windows error.  One of those generic 'error report' windows that tells you jack all.

It does this every time.

Save file is here:  http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=439

Anyway, if you reclaim the last fort in the list, Edemiton, ("KeyHalls"), it blows up as soon as you press "e" on the reclaim fort selection screen.  Other forts in that world are reclaimable.