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« on: October 02, 2008, 08:34:20 pm »
Out of everything in DF pumps are the worst to learn- first they use wood HORRIBLE HORRIBLE WOOD, second they need MECHANICS! So you now a static limited resource thats never fun to manage depending on your forts location, and then you have a profession thats always secondary. So you build your first pump(and all its assorted unique useless-outside-pumping materials) wheee!, wow those are some vague ass charts!.... this doesnt go up Z levels?! So to actually get up Z levels you now need A POWER PLANT!
Right now your entire plan has been shot to hell and thats just with the pump because you now need to make room for this huge useless pump AND MULTIPLE PUMPS! Adding the power plant introduces fun things like WATER WHEELS, WIND MILLS, GEAR BOXES, AXLES! What resources and professions do these take up? OH WHY THE SAME AS PUMPS!
You've already scrapped your pump idea 5x over because its just retarded and the amount of ITS FUN TO LOSE! you have to go through makes it truly NOT FUN TO LOSE! why? because there was no room for mistakes and your not going to learn ever because its to friggin outrageous to get the fucker working.
We already have levers that magically connect to doors and traps/pressure plates why do we need magical stick of power(axle) to automate things? we could always just use more mechanisms to simulate horrible horrible axles. If we build giant screw pumps why cant we build them in a giant tube to pump water up multiple levels? instead we have to build giant stacks of pumps which isent realistic and is hugely wasteful. I honestly dont know why this wasent done before because no matter how patient you are pumps and power plants in current form are retarded and wasteful- do you want to build giant axle connections with associated power plants to open doors? yeah i dont want to do that with pumps and power plants.
When i see a dwarf mechanic i think of a dwarf who knows alot about what hes doing- why must you demand i(no friggin clue) design this complex machine? I tell the mechanic, hey you i want to pump water up 4 Z levels then have it cascade through the garden tower, i already got everything else built i just need pumps! So the dwarf tells me, i need these items and how are you going to power it? Wow that sounds alot easier and more realistic then some half ass crazy thing that clearly wont work(you wont know until its finished) which we have to deal with atm.
Fuck your pumps, can we please change them? i'm going to fucking wall off and redirect my brook cause thats faster then your stupid ass pumps.