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From this bug forum thread.

Quote from: Shrike on April 10, 2010, 06:06:32 pm

What would be nice is a 'rediagnose' thing, yes. But also a 'Forced bedrest' option for dwarves who can't make it to the food stockpiles without passing out again and again...and dying as a result. Essentially, allow the player to designate a 'recover wounded' order on a dwarf who is trying to be tough and kills himself  while trying to lift a barrel of booze to his parched, cracking lips.

This could just be solved by creating a food/drink stockpile next to the hospital. Or designating someone as a nurse, who has only the "give food/water to wounded" labor active.

Doesn't help if the dwarf gets up on their own, because it is then 'treated', and extreme pain, lapsing into unconciousness, etc., are not something that suggest further treatment is needed.

In my view, the optimal setup would be to have a dwarf exhibiting signs of pain to be taken in repeatedly for work until they can fully heal (if this means they get cut open and die, well, that's dwarfy). And so, I propose a new noble position: Dr./Nurse StrongArm. This position is essentially the fortress guard repurposed to ensure that a dwarf meant to be in bed or suffering from pain and unconciousness is found and led back to the hospital.

So, the order of the medical process would go thusly:
1. Recovery of wounded
2. Initial diagnosis
3. Treatment
4. Recuperation
5. Final diagnosis to clear patient to exit medical care.

Without a clean bill of health (or close enough, if it's a missing lung or eye or something), Dr/Nurse Strongarm goes and finds the dwarf who isn't being a good patient and dragging them back to bed.

This would take care of the worst offenders, dwarves hauling their broken bodies around the fort in order to get to food, allowing the 'bring food/water' behaviors to work properly while you work to fix everything up.

After the 'Icicle drop defense' thread, I started to wonder.

What if, on a freezing map, you ramp-carved the outline of your fort underground, filled it with water, then collapsed the surface?

Would the falling ground crush the water under it, resulting in a lower level of ice than intended?

Once exposed, the entire vertical profile of the water column should freeze. Then, you could ramp-carve out additional sections and, level by level, expand or contract as you moved down the Z-levels, and even increase the height of exposed structures by going in from underneath and filling with water and channeling out the stone floor layer that keeps it from being 'inside'.

However: would rooms in ice be warm enough for dwarves?


I'm thinking I'll need a freezig map with an underground river and magma pipe for this.


Another amusing idea: build a huge array of staircases and hatches over the ice , link them up to a few levers with specific patterns, and try to use magma to carve and create obsidian rooms in ice...

As the topic.

I've been trying to make an obsidian city from the ground up, punching a hole in the lowest level of the magma pipe, and channeling it into constructed, magma-safe bridge controlled chambers, but it's slow.

I've started piping water into one of the molds to then channel out a more narrow corridor for the magma, but I'm not sure if that will speed up delivery through the area. I will eventually need to refill all the narrow channels of the walls with magma to get a solid block... Hm.

Would it be better to create sections vertically, casting the obsidian in an underground tower, digging out a chamber to fill with magma and then pouring from there into the next section/adjacent tower, and then going about the whole process again, or would an approach of filling each z-level with magma then dumping water  onto  before pouring the next level of magma from higher up be more efficient?

Hello.
In my most ambitious fortress to date, I'm making a huge water lake in a terrifying mountain biome, using a river source. Not only is this my first attempt at making circular buildings, but also my first try at a drowning chamber.

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While it is possible to make this a magma lake, I'm rather intent on the water. The reason is because the drowning chamber is a stepped pyramid that will auto-drain after use, and be the source of replenishing the lake's water level by spilling over the sides, leaving the interior dry except when desired.  Magma would simply take too long to clear out.

It occurs to me that, as I will be constantly refilling the lake from a single point, I could make an arena at the top of my powerstation/pumptower and 'flush' it to spread blood from the arena around the lake. Has anyone tried to make an entire body of water bloody?
Can I make a 'blood cistern' and store blood to release for special occasions (EG, arrival of the king, Elven traders come by, found MORE Alunite...), or would it vanish from season to season?

I suppose, given my fort's immense donkey, cow, and horse population, that i could pit them into a charnelhouse (The equivalent of a Dwarven Magic Bullet) pull the lever until everything stops twitching, and then wash it out, thereby solving an overpopulation and aesthetic issue at the same time.

The real question: Will this please Armok?