Bay 12 Games Forum

So we all know about that special wood that is verry cold. What if I had a corridoor made of the stuff. And a bridge on top that retracts. And water on top. Does this mean that the water would instantly freeze? If so, then it would be a convenient way of making stone structures underground. It would also be a great way to not have to un-fobut all the items that the enemy drops.

An interesting observation.

So basically, dwarf fortress worlds are perpendicular. You know the cliche where its always a "parallel" universe? What this basically means is that the two universes do not intersect each other and cant really effect each other. A perpendicular universe(Or pair to be more precise) is is a universe that intersects our universe at some notable point. So by, say going east, you may accidentally walk into the intersect point. From here you might go to either of the two or more universes. Dwarf fortress seems to be a conveniently interpreted and layed out map of two or more perpendicular universes. If you dig deep enough, you hit the massive point of intersection-HFS. Its literally as if the only way in is through a wormhole inside a chamber made of adamantine. Smaller, areal intersection points are the evil/merry biomes. They seem to be small areal intersection points from a perpendicular universe.

Food for thought.

So pistons are cool. DF might be cool-er-ish if it had pistons. But simply pushing a soil/stone block would be unreal and would cause a lot of stupid oddities and problems. Also, the lever system right now is just plain weird. you might have a room made of iron walls, placed inside a magma filled container, placed inside a water filled container, then a lever placed outside would still activate a floodgate inside. So I think levers should be connected to things via ropes and pulleys and chains. boxes could be implemented so that you have stuff to push with pistons. You could also push cages etc. Wieghts should be in as a set up way to activate traps.

Heres an example:

when an enemy steps on a pressure plate, the plate is connected to a trigger at the bottom. the trigger is connected to another trigger far a way via a long rope. the same happens again but this time upwards. The rope is connected to a piston that is set up to a weight. in front of the piston there is a huge spiked ball. The ball is a variation of the crate and will roll and gain momentum when it falls down slopes. Thus, when the pressure plate is activated, the wight falls, activating the piston which starts rolling the spiked ball. The spiked ball rols down the corridoor completely destroying everything in its path.

What do you think?

Right now as its planned, necro(mancers) will only raise corpses etc to serve them as their slaves etc. But what do REAL necromancers do? Real necromancers actually resurrect people. They dont just live forever and have a hoard of zombies(Though that is acceptable if it doesn't occur too often) So my suggestion is this(Though an alternate version of this might be somewhat planned):

Dont make necromancers the guys who have the secret of no-aging/immortality. Necromancers should have the secret of possession(To allow a ghost or dead soul to temporarily under certain conditions enter an unconscious/willing body) or the secret of embodiment(To allow some soul to be passed into an alternate(Probably dead/unconscious) body and replacing the old one). This would mean that rather than having necromancers be the dark lords with their zombie hordes, they should be the guys who can bring back the dark lords. They should also form cults. These cults would have to exists in order for the necromancers to continue living on forever because the rituals involve them communing to complete the task.

Zombies might be possible and sometimes required but I dont really understand why they should be able to raise ALL corpses that they come across. Perhaps, if they learn the secret of capturing souls(And I'm just making this up) in order to project some sort of life into the zombies. I just think  the zomby thing should be a bit limited.

What do you think?

So, now that the first turn is done we can begin. I am still awfully disapointed by the lack of balls a volcano in the map... The embark CLEARLY said that there was one right here. Who knows maybe there will be a pipe later down the road.

So, the turn list.
Green-done
Yellow-playing
Purple-YOU FAILED!
Brown-notified
the rest - still waiting.

1-Antymattar
2-GreatWyrmGold
3-Loud Whispers Failed to maintain resources vital to the mission.
4-BeforeLifer - moved
5-Hannibal Barcalounger
6-Ezk1
7-tryrar
8-Greader
9-thegoatgod_pan
10-Mobotium
11-BeforeLifer

A few enterprising dwarves were sent out to make a settlement on the top of an ancient extinct volcano.
What? That's not real? Tell that to the tombstones over at the caves in the outpost of Firepunch!

Year one
They had build a small home. some rooms to live, some workshops and a growing bee farm.
Nothing much happened that year... besides four funerals. Some dwarves came to join them in their project... But what omen is this to lose so many in the first year?

Year two
The dwarves grew weary of the danger above. So they started guarding themselves more. They built a barracks in hope that one day any wariors would come to live there. The bees were buzzing, the yacks were... making noises. It seemed quite fine for a while... though still dwarves died...and yet more came.

The current save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5248

So as it is right now, the biggest problem with having multiple fluids, is that you would need tons of other to be created once two fluids mix. I`ve been thinking about this for a while and I think I might have found a sollution. So the idea is as follows

Fluids would now be deffined in the raws. Each liquid would have a defined density. When two liquids meet, for instance, 3 units of water and 4 units of rock nut oil, then the lighter one(I`m guessing it should be rock nut oil) would be on the top. So you would have something like a liquid tile that blinks colors between the two colors of the liquids. There should always be a base pure liquid to ensure that any liquids that get mixed with it would eventually get purified back into the base liquid. This also means that you would always need the base liquidm(which is water in this case), to purify anything. Otherwise mixed fluids stay mixed forever.

You could also define some liquid combinations if you wanted so to make more stuff I guess.

What do you think?

Now that dwarves can go missing I think they should also go missing if knocked unconscious nobody is there to witness it. Perhaps they might remain unconscious for quite a while.

EDIT: Also, dwarves should be hidden from all menus and under the fog of war/sight limitations just like snatchers when unspotted.

Also, just so toady doesn't forget this one- If a missing dwarf meets a missing dwarf then they are still missing.

Ok, what with my new game almst done I have some spare time for making a sucsession fortress, but I want it to be something that the whole community agrees to so here goes voting for what it should be. I have a list on top where you can vote for 5 things that the site should contain. I will be starting it with the vanilla version of DF so that there s no interferance but if you think that some mods should be used then please post. Also, the idea of the fortress is to be discussed though I was planning on making an undewater fortress(Ie, dig a huge pit, build buildings in it with windows and such and then flood it so that your dwarves are trapped in it) but if you would want a different goal then just post and vote for a site that would suit your idea more. Im going to end the poll in 5(Due to change though) days so that we can get to it. And dont vote withouit actually posting so that I can already decide what the list of people will be.

Also, I`m opposed to dwarfing but it would be ok if people can name their dwarves what ever they want in the game but only if the dwearf is not famous(Did something awesome, though this might actually require a new name) or is already named(Though that is also subject to change as he might get a better name for what he does)

So, lets start


List (We can start now! yay!):

1-Antymattar
2-GreatWyrmGold
3-Loud Whispers
4-BeforeLifer
5-Hannibal Barcalounger
6-Ezk1
7-tryrar
8-Greader
9-