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...And get my dorfs to go in it?

Really, I can't for the life of me figure out how to get them to go into the danger room. It's adjacent to the barracks and has a nice little slot for dodging. Training my dodging is a necessity for keeping my dorfs nice and skilled in the arts of war.

Can you help me out?

I'm assuming it's terrible but no need to worry, I'm only intending to use it for rituals involving my dwarves donning the bones of their foes for a battle to be the champion.

Basically, there's a god named Subil in my world that happens to be the god of chaos and war. I'm going to build a disorganized temple of crazies dedicated to him on the surface that wear, if I can find a way to make it, goblin bone armor into battle with goblins.

There's also going to be some instances of dwarves going forth to collect the heads of their foes, for there can be only one champion.

Yeah I know I make these threads every time I die or see something odd but knowledge is power.

I made a jetstream sam adventurer that fought with heavy armor, somehow maintained insane mobility and speed and used an iron longsword. I wanted him to multigrasp it but had no idea how so I eventually just dual-wielded it with a shortsword.

I had superhuman willpower and agility and was fighting in a narrow, dark hallway under the painted abbey church thing. A goblin boss and I dueled and my men were no help whatsoever as I was still forced to fight his friend. In the first move I decapitated his friend. In the second he chipped my hand's bone with his copper whip through my iron gauntlets and I ran back to throw my other sword at him when I fell unconscious.

It took about seven turns for me to wake up. My companions acted as a wall and bought me some time. I woke up, took two steps to sneak so I'd survive, and then immediately fell unconscious and got whipped in the head.

Now, I've never actually scienced on this, but is willpower's effect randomized? If I got really unlucky, that'd be understandable to some degree, but I've had characters who have had their entire bodies broken with superhuman willpower manage to bite and gnaw their way through their assailants and escape as horribly disfigured crawling biters with throwing skills. A chipped hand is nothing compared to having your ribs smashed, your legs smashed, your arms' motor nerves severed and a spear in your gut, yet a guy with the same stats fell prey to it.

Does anybody else have much experience with this? I've seen whips referred to as 'light sabers', but I figured that had less to do with pain and more to do with armor penetration.

I recently discovered, when making an elfventurer to test bow science with, that my elves are dwarf-sized or around that area. Is this commonplace? My world here doesn't allow elves to wear human-sized clothes. The elves can only wear dwarf-sized gear, it shows everything else as "large X" gear. The descriptions of elves always, as usual, starts out with "A medium-sized creature dedicated to the ruthless defense of future charcoal". Humans are similarly "A medium-sized creature prone to great ambition and lucrative trading deals with classy dwarves".

No, I don't intend to go into the raws and change this fact. I like elves nice and easy to bisect, bite in half and otherwise mutilate or stuff into a cage for later mutilation. I was just wondering if this happens to anyone else when they make adventurer science labs worlds.

Edit: I also recently discovered, to my chagrin, that prone enemies are almost unhittable with ranged weapons unless you're an NPC that can aimbot with a crossbow.

Alright, we've all had this happen once or twice or thrice if we're particularly unlucky. I think.

Adventurer has a party of about ten experienced soldiers travelling through the wilderness and camps for the night.

Bandits spawn in a perfect square around the adventurer and cripple him completely before he can even do anything and then proceed to kill him.

Not fair. You see, those ten soldiers are supposed to keep watch, and if they do the enemy wouldn't just appear on me in a square. They'd probably be a little ways away and advancing so I'd have time to at least get up and go into a martial trance. Maybe even get to fight a little before someone punches me in the head through my iron helmet. With animals I'm a bit more lenient in my opinion, particularly with big cats. A giant lioness is going to be experienced in hunting unaware prey. Bandits, however, are just society's rejects with weapons preying upon the unarmed and unprepared. They're not superninjas that can scale walls and read minds and teleport. In other words, bandits are not Urist Attano, nor should they have his power.

If I had no companions it'd make more sense that bandits could sneak up like that, but I wasn't alone. Had ten people with me, none of them got to do anything before I was insta-dead.

I propose making bandits and if you're lucky(and maybe have a large party) wild animals spawn some distance away from the player before they attack during night ambushes, giving your companions time to rally and ready their weapons and you time to get up and throw that chest full of goblinite at the attackers. This makes your formerly incompetent, useless companions into valuable assets if you plan to travel cross-country to kill a titan, travel that might take a week or more if you intend to skirt around that evil biome. As it is, I'm simply told to not sleep at night outside of hamlets or cities or fortresses, which doesn't seem right. It's unsafe, but it shouldn't be unsafe for the well prepared, well armed and experienced.

That's all I have to say. Anyone else have something to add?

Edit: Also had an idea. Human enemies could ambush you at night in closer proximity if they are trained assassins, and would be much more agile and have better weapon expertise than lowly brigands, perhaps starting with a line like "The Dark Wails of Medicine send their regards," or something. After all, they're trained  to be sneaky and paid by faction A to find you and kill you. Your guards wouldn't have such an easy time detecting them, but thankfully assassins would be few and far between. It would make fame and amassed allies and enemies just as dangerous as it is rewarding.

I'm on a continent that's separate from the mainland inhabited by only an elf kingdom called Tise Ewe, which I've had cordial relations with as I have actually made a concerted effort to avoid murdering them and stealing their stuff. I went for about ten or twelve years without anything, and then some kobolds appeared and were beaten to death summarily. Around a decade after their intermittent attacks, goblins began to appear to try to snatch. None of them succeeded and all of them died. I devised some traps to ensure they never got through.

Then they ambushed me a moment or two ago.

The sick bastards appeared as I was trading with the elves. I would've been able to trade enough junk to acquire lumber to build more beds and barrels for wine. They were mostly crossbowmen with two melee. The crossbowmen killed quite a few of my civilians(my definition of quite a few is eight or nine) before they could get indoors. The melee got into my ungated(I had no need and believed ambushes/sieges were impossible if there were no nearby dark forts to send them from, and you don't need gates for snatchers) surface fort and killed an elven yak and nearly an elf. Then my valiant military showed up and my commander wrestled with him and threw him into my 7/7 deep water canal for my well, where he drowned. My dwarves began to trade crossbow fire with the goblins, who were terrible shots and fell fairly quickly or outright ran. The other melee was unfortunate to come across my militia commander when she was angry and was beaten senseless and thrown into the river, where the carp had at him. It was amusing to watch.

Anyways, I'm certain that no dark fortresses existed when I embarked on this continent. Can ambushes appear anywhere that your edges of the map aren't totally water, magma or sheer cliff? Or is something else afoot? Is Tise Ewe fighting a war with the goblins I knew nothing of, and have they established a beach head? I fear the worst, as this is my first contact with goblin invaders.

As the humans came to trade, a goblin tried to steal my children. Doors slammed shut behind her as she took her time attacking and killing a dog I had for years. I was not pleased and sent thirty dwarves to beat her to death, as we have no metal and I'm afraid of breaching caverns without any so digging any deeper than my current fort is nerve-wracking. I refuse to give my dwarves wooden weapons and I have nothing to sharpen into stone shortswords but rock salt and it doesn't count as sharpenable, but I digress~.

The goblin panicked and went invisibru mode as my dwarves filed in. She tried to sneak by us and a cage trap suddenly sprung around her. I cackled maniacally, my first prisoner! Oh, what horrors await you, little goblin--

Then I checked my trading post and saw 'Pets' with cages. I frowned. What. I had no pets. Checking up on it, I found that she was now a pet. I ordered her to be moved to the trade depot, cackling more maniacally than before. A SLAVE! A pet! She is mine, mine to sell for lumber so I don't piss off my seven elvish neighbors while I have no metal to defend myself!

...And then the guards stabbed her to death with spears as she was hauled in. No explanation, not even a combat report. Just shank shank deadaedehdded.

I still made a profit selling her junk to them, but what the hell, humans? That was my property and I was going to give you a discount if we worked out yearly trading in slaves, lumber and metal bars!

...Can anyone tell me why they did that, how to keep it from happening again and if this is a rare occurrence, how to maximize my cage trap slave industry? I've thought of trying to sell a slave to the elves, as they have no guards that would murder them on-sight. They just stand there all elfy, awkward and defenseless.

If you retire an adventurer vampire, will he automatically begin to feed on nearby villagers? Or will he ignore his hunger entirely and enjoy his golden years of immortality in peace? I want to know because my batman-ish character is a vampire and recently sustained bad nerve damage. I might bring out a Robin adventurer, but... I'm not doing that unless I know he won't begin to feed on villagers.

Die a hero... Or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.