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Quote from: Enemy post on June 17, 2020, 03:48:59 pm

I think that if you remove actual necromancy from the world, the messages you get about people being obsessed with their own mortality won’t have actual consequences. They wish they could be necromancers, but they aren’t actually acting on it.

Again, many people in history were obsessed with mortality. Went to great lengths to become necromancers only to fail once they got there.

Specifically what is Legends telling you that they're doing, beyond them being obsessed with their own mortality?

It is just a lot of it. I generally go thousands of years unless I'm experimenting with something specific.

If many humans or whatever else are trying to become immortal even though necromancy is removed from the design of the world and this is an expected outcome - then I accept that. I just wondered if it was expected. Removing were-disease seems to remove were* beasts. Would this not work the same way?

I could have sword I fought a copper golem. Anyway, I could be wrong on that. My point was that things are still *fun* without zombies and necromancers.

Your point is taken, if mods are the people with he answers I will take my question there.

And to your point, I have been ignoring it up to this point, but it apparently bothered me enough to finally make a post about it. You are welcome to duplicate my setup and take a look at a legends world to see what I mean. Just go to design a world and remove demons, necromancers, bogeymen and were* things.

Your legends stories should also fill with humans reaching the pinnacle of their knowledge only to find they've graduated from a school that doesn't exist.

Thank you for your patience and the suggestions.

I don't like playing with certain elements in the game, so I thought I was removing them by removing the possibility of them being generated, however, it has *odd* results. Which I think might be unintended.

By way of duplicating this predicament:
I'm trying to generate a world/worlds that do not contain any lichs. In fact, I'd like to completely remove undead, demons, bogeymen and a few other baddies.

I would think that this might cause a human to think this way:
Well.. since I will never find the secrets to life and death I may as well get on to other things. In fact, perhaps I could dabble in some local politics or get married or have some children..

But, nope, this seems to be happening:
I am a human and love magic - which for some reason doesn't exist - and I can't figure out why. So I will spend my life researching and hoping to uncover the secrets of life and death. I get all the way there, but I just keep failing. How can I spend my life more meaningfully?

Any chance we could 'fix' this to work in the latter way? As in, move on to something else since those types of things don't exist in the universe, rather than pretending they still exist and wasting time trying? Just a thought for those of us who like to remove certain non-preferred types of creatures to play with.

It seems to work with creature generation just fine. I get plenty of cyclops and copper golems which result in lots of the normal *fun* which is fantastic, but these humans do not seem to understand this universe I'm trying to build.

Is there a way to see what is going on exactly during world generation? Like a way to see the legends mode as it is being generated?

Ideally, use tail -f on a file that tells everything going on?

Another one today:

Nitom Niral - The Planets of Portent
Year 1050

World map:
WorldMap

World Download:
Nitom_Niral-The_Planets_of_Portent.zip

Strasp Sagus - The Planets of Dawning
Year 1050

World Map:
https://imgur.com/r9UzHEp

Download:
Strasp_Sagus-The_Planets_of_Dawning.zip

I've created a few more.

Boldolramul - The Cyclopean Plane
Year 1050

world_map:
https://imgur.com/r9UzHEp

World Download:
Boldolramul-The_Cyclopean_Plane.zip


Feedback welcome. Have a few more to post.