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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: Save Files between Mac & PC
« on: March 20, 2008, 01:39:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by MadKap:
<STRONG>Hey guys,

A quick question for you: Are save files compatible between mac and PC?

Thanks!</STRONG>


They are. I use my Mac for playing and an emulator with Win XP to use prospector when i start a new fortress, both on the same machine with the same data  :)


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DF Bug Reports / Re: [38b] mac: crash on startup
« on: February 24, 2008, 05:41:00 am »
I have got exact the same issue here, using a Mac G5 2x2.0. I tested it on an Intel iMac aswell, where it runs without any problems. I get the "Start Fullscreen?" message, and regardless what i choose, DF crashes.

System:

Model: PowerMac7,3, BootROM 5.1.8f7, 2 processors, PowerPC G5  (2.2), 2 GHz, 2.5 GB
Graphics: kHW_ATIr420Item, ATY,R420, spdisplays_agp_device, 256 MB
Graphics: kHW_ATIrv280Item, ATY,RV280, sppci_pci_device, 128 MB
Memory Module: DIMM0/J11, 256 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330
Memory Module: DIMM1/J12, 256 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30330
Memory Module: DIMM2/J13, 1 GB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30440
Memory Module: DIMM3/J14, 1 GB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30440
Bluetooth: Version 2.1.0f14, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
PCI Card: ATY,RV280, display, SLOT-4
Serial ATA Device: SAMSUNG HD501LJ, 465.76 GB
Serial ATA Device: WDC WD2500JD-00GBB0, 232.89 GB
Parallel ATA Device: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-107D
USB Device: hub_device, high_speed, 500 mA
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, full_speed, 500 mA
USB Device: Keyboard Hub, Apple, Inc., high_speed, 500 mA
USB Device: USB Receiver, Logitech, low_speed, 100 mA
USB Device: Apple Keyboard, Apple, Inc, low_speed, 100 mA
USB Device: USB2.0 Hub, high_speed, 500 mA
USB Device: USB2.0 Hub, high_speed, 500 mA

Here is my error report:

Process:         Dwarf Fortress [1046]
Path:            /Applications/Games/Dwarf Fortress 0.27.176.38b/Dwarf Fortress.app/Contents/MacOS/Dwarf Fortress
Identifier:      com.bay12games.dwarffortress
Version:         ??? (1.0)
Code Type:       PPC (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [98]

Date/Time:       2008-02-24 11:39:19.931 +0100
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread:  0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x916cacb8 __kill + 12
1   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9176f7c4 abort + 84
2   libstdc++.6.dylib                0x96084e24 __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler() + 400
3   libstdc++.6.dylib                0x96082940 __gxx_personality_v0 + 1240
4   libstdc++.6.dylib                0x960829a4 std::terminate() + 68
5   libstdc++.6.dylib                0x96082be4 __cxa_throw + 124
6   libstdc++.6.dylib                0x9603b164 std::__throw_length_error(char const*) + 176
7   com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x00469a30 0x1000 + 4622896
8   com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x00348c20 0x1000 + 3439648
9   com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x0004d99c 0x1000 + 313756
10  com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x0001b548 0x1000 + 107848
11  com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x0001b7d0 0x1000 + 108496
12  com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x00002390 0x1000 + 5008
13  com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x00002094 0x1000 + 4244

Thread 1:
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9164f38c __semwait_signal + 12
1   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9168bf40 _pthread_cond_wait + 1580
2   libGLProgrammability.dylib       0x91bc82e8 glvmDoWork + 120
3   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9168ab98 _pthread_start + 316

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x91648978 mach_msg_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9164f89c mach_msg + 56
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation         0x914cf618 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1828
3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio        0x92dbde3c HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 212
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio        0x92dbdc80 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 104
5   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9168ab98 _pthread_start + 316

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x916489f8 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9168be3c _pthread_cond_wait + 1320
2   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio        0x92dcf884 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 488
3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio        0x92dcf684 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 12
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio        0x92dbdc80 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 104
5   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9168ab98 _pthread_start + 316

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib                0x91648af8 mach_wait_until + 8
1   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore   0x95735aa8 MPDelayUntil + 32
2   com.bay12games.dwarffortress     0x0035c744 0x1000 + 3520324
3   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore   0x9571bfc4 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
4   libSystem.B.dylib                0x9168ab98 _pthread_start + 316

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 32:
 srr0: 0x916cacb8  srr1: 0x0200f030   dar: 0xe609b08c dsisr: 0x40000000
   r0: 0x00000025    r1: 0xbfffec00    r2: 0x00000000    r3: 0x00000000
   r4: 0x00000000    r5: 0x00000001    r6: 0xffffffff    r7: 0x00000001
   r8: 0x0000000a    r9: 0x18d82a40   r10: 0x91693c90   r11: 0xa0358490
  r12: 0x916caca4   r13: 0xbffff360   r14: 0x00470000   r15: 0xbffff354
  r16: 0x00000001   r17: 0xbfffeed9   r18: 0xbfffeeda   r19: 0x00000000
  r20: 0x003b7d28   r21: 0x00000001   r22: 0xbfffeeec   r23: 0xbfffeee8
  r24: 0x00000000   r25: 0xbfffeedc   r26: 0xbfffeee0   r27: 0x18d838d0
  r28: 0xa0bb4ca0   r29: 0x18d8295c   r30: 0xa0356368   r31: 0x9176f77c
   cr: 0x44000202   xer: 0x00000000    lr: 0x9176f7c8   ctr: 0x916caca4
vrsave: 0x00000fff

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DF Suggestions / Re: Dwarf Fortress MMO???
« on: May 20, 2008, 04:03:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Neonivek:
<STRONG>Adventure mode in Dwarf Fortress is virtually impossible: Because the game is turn based you would have to wait until the other person does an action in order to move... Create annoying delays with as much as walking towards the enemy dragon...

So that takes out 50% of Dwarf Fort in one fine stroke</STRONG>



Actually Dofus is a mainly turn-based, sort of strategical MMORPG - so it's not impossible ;-) Movement isn't turn based of course, but the fights are.

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