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Everyone was playing 3D chess but it turned out the game was 4D the entire time.

The course of history drastically changes if Tric actually got voted out Day 1 though. I'm not sure what mask I would get from him but I think this might've turned into a mafia win regardless. Unless his mask made me a SK, maybe.

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Cool, another game where I'm gonna get gaslit over something blatantly untrue. Awesome.

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Max, I'm gonna ask that you stop playing dumb here. You denied shading me then admitted that you were shading me for not changing my vote. And your posts so far today has either just been shade or joke posts with no content.

I'm fine with my vote.
... I don't actually know what you mean by "shading".
Are you being genuine or are you just trying to save face?

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Max, I'm gonna ask that you stop playing dumb here. You denied shading me then admitted that you were shading me for not changing my vote. And your posts so far today has either just been shade or joke posts with no content.

I'm fine with my vote.

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I was pointing out that, having just said that you were only voting to go along with a question that had already sat around for long enough to make the vote pointless, and that you weren't actually interested in lynching Tric, you should then change your vote, or else it looks exactly like what webadict suggested: a low-effort way to try to get someone mislynched with plausible deniability. Think of it as me reminding you to change your vote after you'd verbally invalidated it.
Maybe explain what makes it funny instead of vaguely shading me and doing nothing to try to solve me.
I wasn't "shading" you, I was prompting you to change your vote. Which you just did, so it worked.
Hmm.

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Maximum Spin, maybe explain what makes it funny instead of pretending that you wanted me to change my vote.
I...
it wasn't actually funny, Roden. It's a figure of speech. Like "it's funny how that works".
I know it's not actually funny, I know what a figure of speech is. I'm asking what you meant by that.

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Maybe explain what makes it funny instead of vaguely shading me and doing nothing to try to solve me.
I wasn't "shading" you, I was prompting you to change your vote. Which you just did, so it worked.
Maximum Spin, maybe explain what makes it funny instead of pretending that you wanted me to change my vote.

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I am a Dragon. I burn people, among other things. What those things are are something you're have to find out, but at least my actions are known!

Seriously though, On Fire.
Yes, my Flareon also has access to a certain status condition.  Does it do anything for you?  Because it literally doesn't look like it does anything for me, hence the confusion.
Odd. And yeah, it does do something. It kills people. Not much way to pretty that point up.

... Wonder if anyone else has the ability to set it off. Well, maybe mafia will try to kill me, but unlikely given nearly everything I do sets people on fire.
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding this, but I'm not reading this as a Vig claim. To me, it sounds like Tric's kill ability is a consequence of his action rather than being the main function of it. And he's implying that Mafia may be able to manipulate it/use it for themselves. So to me it just sounds like negative utility.
If you want to look at it that way, then it may be that several players interact with certain mechanics negatively.

It's possible that Soaked and On Fire! are both utilized by evil factions, but Tric is essentially in charge of a loaded gun.  Anyone he targets is potentially killed.  That's only a negative if you let it be a negative.

I honestly don't see a reason for TricMagic to claim On Fire! and a kill as Mafia, especially since he'd be outted on N1 when no Mafiakill happens.  That's just a meta-read.

My role on top of that has literally no reason to give On Fire! status conditions, so it doesn't make any sense for TricMagic to be scum at all to me except to allow him to be able to Vigilante faster, and given my other Abilities, this kinda supports how my role works.  That's a personal view of the entire thing.  That's not really something I expect you to believe on the surface.

The real confusion for me is "Soaked" because it's... Kinda... Just there.  I can get some information by Soaking people, but I'm not entirely sure why I have Soaked at all except that my results are technically public because of it.  But, if everyone's Soaked by like Day 3, it's not gonna matter, so I'm gonna have to probably use it Tonight.

Tric has two votes on him...and we aren't even close to deadline...

Is there anyone actually pushing Tric or scum reading him right now?
Assumedly you and notquitethere, but the real answer is probably not. I think it's a lazy place to keep your vote, where it looks active enough but really just kinda coasts.
That explains things a bit better actually. My role doesn't mention anything about status effects, specific or not, so seeing someone claim a kill ability working with a burning ability just makes it sound like an Arsonist/Arsonist-Enabler.

If Soak gives you info about roles, I don't mind getting targeted tonight. If it makes it public though, scum likely have some way to avoid having everything about their role leaked. Public Rolecop sounds kinda nuts.

I'll move over to NQT for now.

If you look at my vote you can see that I'm not pushing or scum reading Tric, it's a RVS vote with a question that never got answered.
Funny how it's still there, then.
Maybe explain what makes it funny instead of vaguely shading me and doing nothing to try to solve me.

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Vote Count
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-> notquitethere --2-- Maximum Spin*, webadict*,
-> TricMagic     --2-- notquitethere*, Roden*,
Jim Groovester   --1-- juicebox*,
juicebox         --1-- TricMagic*,
Nakéen           --1-- ToonyMan*,
NJW2000          --1-- EuchreJack*,
ToonyMan         --1-- NJW2000*,
EuchreJack       --0--
hector13         --0--
Knightwing64     --0--
Maximum Spin     --0--
Roden            --0--
Vector           --0--
webadict         --0--
No One           --0--

Not Voting       --5-- hector13, Jim Groovester, Knightwing64, Nakéen, Vector,

8 to Hammer. Day ends on October 16, 2022 at 02:00 Central Daylight Time (~51 hours remaining).


Dang, could you imagine if we all just lazily did nothing and let TricMagic get voted out, that'd be incredibly unforeseeable.  But trying to stop that would be, just, so overreacting.
Tric has two votes on him...and we aren't even close to deadline...

Is there anyone actually pushing Tric or scum reading him right now?
I feel like you are both asking and answering your own question.
To make my point more clear: Who are you voting again?
If you look at my vote you can see that I'm not pushing or scum reading Tric, it's a RVS vote with a question that never got answered.

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Vote Count
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-> notquitethere --2-- Maximum Spin*, webadict*,
-> TricMagic     --2-- notquitethere*, Roden*,
Jim Groovester   --1-- juicebox*,
juicebox         --1-- TricMagic*,
Nakéen           --1-- ToonyMan*,
NJW2000          --1-- EuchreJack*,
ToonyMan         --1-- NJW2000*,
EuchreJack       --0--
hector13         --0--
Knightwing64     --0--
Maximum Spin     --0--
Roden            --0--
Vector           --0--
webadict         --0--
No One           --0--

Not Voting       --5-- hector13, Jim Groovester, Knightwing64, Nakéen, Vector,

8 to Hammer. Day ends on October 16, 2022 at 02:00 Central Daylight Time (~51 hours remaining).


Dang, could you imagine if we all just lazily did nothing and let TricMagic get voted out, that'd be incredibly unforeseeable.  But trying to stop that would be, just, so overreacting.
Tric has two votes on him...and we aren't even close to deadline...

Is there anyone actually pushing Tric or scum reading him right now?

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I am a Dragon. I burn people, among other things. What those things are are something you're have to find out, but at least my actions are known!

Seriously though, On Fire.
Yes, my Flareon also has access to a certain status condition.  Does it do anything for you?  Because it literally doesn't look like it does anything for me, hence the confusion.
Odd. And yeah, it does do something. It kills people. Not much way to pretty that point up.

... Wonder if anyone else has the ability to set it off. Well, maybe mafia will try to kill me, but unlikely given nearly everything I do sets people on fire.
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding this, but I'm not reading this as a Vig claim. To me, it sounds like Tric's kill ability is a consequence of his action rather than being the main function of it. And he's implying that Mafia may be able to manipulate it/use it for themselves. So to me it just sounds like negative utility.

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I'm working on a post but I'm tempted to abandon it and go play Noita and watch anime instead.
Ok, Jim is town.

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Your actions aren't confirmable to anyone who doesn't know what status effects are relevant to your role, or what any of them mean, or what burning things even does. Nor does it take into account Multitasking or abilities that combine a lethal and non-lethal action into one.
Yeah, but...it's Tric.

Hey Tric, who's definitely town right now?
This line of thought of "oh that's just how Tric is" is a major reason he gets miseliminated so often though. Like that may be enough for a core four people who play with him so often, but that still leaves everyone else. It creates this weird situation where people have to read Tric by also reading some combination of you/Web/Max/Jim, which is just...not feasible, at all.

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Also Tric, whenever you die in your sleep, it's typically because the people you trusted to defend you just say "fuck it, vote him out" instead of pushing a vote they actually want. And they're not always scum either.

You can get town read through your meta of "my role my role my role", but meta doesn't matter to everyone. You're a lot less likely to get voted out when you focus less on your role and instead make your thoughts and attempts to solve more well known.

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Your actions aren't confirmable to anyone who doesn't know what status effects are relevant to your role, or what any of them mean, or what burning things even does. Nor does it take into account Multitasking or abilities that combine a lethal and non-lethal action into one.

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