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This mod sounds nice.
But real men don't need graphics. In fact, I couldn't understand a thing in this rainbow mess on the world map, so I thought whatever, I'll just embark somewhere, prepare for the journey, take some weird star gender dogs and some weird star gender dogs... wait, what? Where are the gender symbols?
I tried different bundled tilesets and they all didn't fit my taste. Too small, too messy or too damn gay colored. Or plain fugly. The fonts are quite bad. Well, in fact I cant say for sure whether to blame the fonts or the tiles - I always thought it was the same bloody thing in one file, but now I'm not sure anymore why does this mod make a distinction and how exactly.

So obviously I tried changin the font/tileset manually (I used vedumec in vanilla df) but stupid setting app reset tilesets along with some other settings. And for the love of god, why are there init.txts all over the place? FFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

Is this version any good for practical play? Are any (new) non graphic-related issues possible? Does foreman work with it with 40d settings?

I wonder if it gets done in the next major version...

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Something like a gate with guards: requires guards to operate; only lets certain dwarves pass (as in workshop profile); with no guards the gate's closed.
Most useful to only let your woodcutters and haulers outdoors, but I can think of other applications too.

thought of it just now when a whole bunch of mah dwarves wanted to take a break OUTSIDE even tho there were goblins all over the place.

Also, dwarves "run away" AI sucks. They LOVE to corner themselves.

Edit: I guess I named it poorly, I'm not all that good at engrish. Searched the forum but in similarly named topics there are actually completely different suggestions.

Well maybe more than just a little interface improvement..

First of all, swap "craft type" and "craft material" for smithing. It makes little sense "Oh, I have zinc.. should I make something from it? What should I make?" as if you care more that it should be made from zinc than that it should be a barrel, for example. Also, you have to remember what types of objects can be made with this or that. Usually you think first "I gonna make a sword" and then "a copper one" so wouldn't it be better to arrange menus in the same order?

Also, along with that it will, definitely will be great to be able to specify material for rock and wood crafts. (10 bauxite floodgates, please) Well, maybe with "any" as a valid option.

On a side note, I'm impressed how dwarves make and use full metal weapons and tools. A wooden handle for a pickaxe or a spear is beyond their imagination...

You are absolutely right that choices need to be meaningful.  If you don't care where you hit the spider, just turn on the autopilot mode and hope for the best (like now).  However, what if you happen to know that these spiders have extremely thick chitin on their legs but almost none on their cephalothorax and abdomen?  Better go for a downward chop instead.

Yes, but if you go for a downward chop for every spider then the choice becomes meaningless, at least when fighting spiders. And there are not so many kinds of enemies.. So "this creature has a weak point there" becomes "if creature == <X> then attack <like that>". It's not even a decision. And forget about spiders, what about humanoid armed opponents? How to choose where to attack and defend?

Also, even if you're doing manual combat (not autopilot), the interface doesn't have to be THAT painful or slow. 

It's me what is slow. It takes little time to make a simple decision, but making one each turn may stack up u know...

YEAH RIGHT one more thing: we need a better wrestling system. Joint locks, throws, breaking limbs and defending against the same, all in a usable way. (Right now it's not usable) Martial arts should be introduced to DF.
"Drunk dwarven ninja climbs a wall of a palace up to the king's chambers. He greets the king with a club, takes the crown, and, singing a cheerful song disappears right in front of royal guards in a cloud of his own fart."

Choice is the illusion of freedom.
When you have all those attack grids etc there should also be a good reasoning on why to attack this or that way and not another (why it would be more effective) and why to defend here and not there (why is it better to). If there's no reasoning, then there's no meaning.

Complex AI in fortress mode is an arguable idea, also there's army arc somewhere ahead, and while your ideas may or may not be implemented, army arc features will be there for sure.

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What about dodging in place?

I think dodging should require actually moving to another tile.

I think dodging by meter or a few centimetres has the same result, isn't leaping all around the place kinda amateurish? Especially if you dodge a thrust.

No.  The head might be more heavily armored

The head is never more armored than the rest of the body, because head armor hinders movements, sight, hearing.

or the opponent might be keeping his guard high

Wait it just got to me... is it possible or not to defend against an attack or you just get in defending position and pray your enemy will strike there? *TITAN KICKS*

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How many attack areas are there? 9 for each opponent?

I think you should only get 1 maneuver per grasp per turn, no matter how many opponents...

that's right, but how many attack areas are there to strike at? I thought you relate them to opponent.
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Fully surrounded, armed with a knife. Or a poleaxe. It does make difference right? Could you give me a (pseudo)command sequence on how to attack upper-right spider with a horizontal low right to left slash? Or just any other command sequence. (Another attack, target, etc.)

That's actually already accounted for with the grid system -- after a slash from left to right, your sword will still be on the right side, so you can't slash right again.

Now that's cool, even more if there would be a way to "store" combos in a form of "fighting style", maybe like chains of commands dunno. Not sure how to make it cool with fewer keypresses, and tons of keypresses suck, really.
But firstly you have to make difference between a combo, and returning to a stance, then attacking again.

Also, as you describe things now I can't see any catch in anything more complicated than repeated left-right swings or anything else equally dumb. If you can see where the opponent defends, and strike there, it means the opponent can do the same and defence is just for it to be somewhere, but not to actually work. If you can't, it's just randomly striking until you hit which is what we have now, but without complicated controls.

Ideally, it should be "sensible defence, working right when opponent attacks" and "sequences of attacks which are hard to defend against with sensible defence"... (Feints fall there too) Also we have skill values that should have some meaning (a lot of it really)