Bay 12 Games Forum

• Spawn rates of liberals, and their power and variety, should be set by just how important the issue is to society right now.  At the minimum level, nothing but aging hippies and young college students.  At higher levels, more useful and skillful liberals - not that it matters so much in terms of raw police-line breaking power, but in terms of also using protests as recruitment sites.  By default, any liberal at a protest should be more inclined than normal to "hear something disturbing" and be interested in taking action.
• More police and intelligence agency powers yield greater number of undercover police officers inside the demonstration.
• No matter what the issue, there will always be hippies and liberal college students protesting for the legalization of marijuana.
• Certain issues will prompt counter-protests as well.  (Abortion, gay rights, immigration, free speech, flag-burning, gun control, and women's rights even at the more liberal of times; on every single issue if too many people like AM radio and Cable News since they will be deceived into adopting purely corporate interests as their own.)  The protesters on the conservative side of the issue will vary somewhat depending on the issue; conservative protesters spawning at a gun-control-related demonstration will be particularly dangerous.  Where a protest and counter-protest are both happening, the police line may be drawn in between the two sides.  Breaking that line could be very satisfying, but potentially very dangerous to the cause.

• A presidential veto of a liberalizing measure that is not overridden.
• Any Supreme Court decision that opposes liberal interests, or one that favors liberal interests but falls under the counter-protest list.  (A liberal victory in corporate law will provoke some other response, not a demonstration.)
• Every May 1st.
• Every April 20th, but only for drug law.

I've never done a succession game, but I wanna sign up for a turn.  And also, how do I get a map with no sentient life and only 7 dwarves?

Without migrants or nobles, a lot of the potential risks and drama is removed.  Seeing a civilization built up from the ground is interesting and I'm not saying you guys are doing poorly, it's just that I can see how y'all would need to add a level of drama in the form of megaprojects and such, lacking the semi-random 'suddenly King' type stuff of vanilla DF.  Lacking the level of population for moods would put a damper on things as well.

Also, re-reading the beginning, I thought there were only two dwarves (dwarfs?  I'm not sure of the accepted usage here) ever, not cities of them.  Though TBH I like the idea of a normal world that died out and y'all are reclaiming it, it is a bit of a 'huh?' moment, especially for new readers.  Annnnd one more: I played around in a death world myself and the nightstalkers NEVER attacked my dwarves (they died to HFS instead but that's me), despite me actually sending a couple in 'harms way' as it were to test that out.  In fact a just-drafted recruit took out three or so Megasquids and ran the rest off alone.  Just lettin' y'all know my experiences.

Okay, I'm pissed off like nobody's business! My immune system doesn't want me to play DF. It should start to grow a beard and I'm trying to make it more dwarven by drinking a Pastis, but I feel so sick and lethargic that it would surprise me if I got something done today.
I'm awfully sorry. If you would prefer it, I could upload the one-season save (as I said, I didn't have much time) and someone could take over. It's your choice.

a society that wouldn't be that bad to live in

• Abortion: Massive numbers of abortions are causing demographic disasters with missing generations and rapidly aging populations.
• Animal Research: Many life-saving drugs cannot be developed, because there are no legal means of testing.  Hopefully unlimited human embryonic stem cell research has all the answers to every remaining medical question.
• Law Enforcement: Police officers cannot act without approval from the majority of a community.  Police officers cannot protect unpopular minorities in their community without being removed from their posts.
• Privacy Laws: Attempting to learn the names or phone numbers of people to whom you wish to sell products is illegal.  Asking for names and ID to verify checks or credit cards is illegal.  All trade must return to a cash or barter basis.
• Death Penalty: Multiple murderers must be kept alive and healthy at any cost, including cosmetic surgeries necessary for maintenance of self-esteem, until death by old age.  In fact, life without parole is barbaric, too; forty years as an upper limit to incarceration.  No one who murdered at 18 might do it again at 58, right?  Also, the death penalty is completely barbaric, so embargoes against China, Japan, and other Eastern nations for practicing it.
• Nuclear Power: efficient, clean, and with modern developments, extremely safe, power sources are banned.  Increased coal and natural gas will be needed until we can finish paving Nevada with solar panels.
• Pollution: all factories using potentially noxious chemicals, or emitting any kind of fumes, close.  Slack is picked up instead in developing nations, where there are no incentives whatsoever to reduce pollution or care for customer safety and there is of course absolutely no chance that heavy metals might be introduced into infant formula as a cost-saving measure.
• Workers: all workers have a living wage with full benefits and humane working hours--assuming they can get one of the very few remaining jobs as private industry slashes workforces by 80% to afford the minimum government requirements for key employees.
• Homosexual rights: persons holding views about human sexuality not ordained by the LCS are sentenced to re-education and forbidden from speaking those views.
• Corporate Law: corporations cannot function in any way.  Any form of enterprise can be operated by the government, worker's collectives, or single-owner unlimited-liability only.
• Free Speech: Free speech is universally supported--unless it's from a source that disagrees with the LCS; then it can be gunned down in mid-broadcast, or labeled un-person by decree and deported from the country.
• Flag Burning: The right to burn a flag is universally protected--even if the flag is on someone's uniform and they're trying to wear it at the time.
• Gun Control: If a crazy man on meth breaks into a woman's apartment at midnight, all she can do is go for a useless can of pepper spray and pray hope that she's not fatally injured before the police arrive.
• Taxes: Doctors choose to stop working four months into the year because the salary they make for any additional hours worked would be confiscated.
• Women's Rights: Men cannot be hired to any position or promoted if there is a woman who also wants that position.
• Affirmative Action: Caucasians, regardless of background, cannot be hired to any position or promoted if there is a non-Caucasian, regardless of background, who also wants that position.
• Drugs: The right of persons to smoke copious amounts of marijuana before operating heavy machinery or motor vehicles shall not be infringed.
• Immigration: all borders are completely open and citizenship is automatic to anyone who wants it, unlike such backwards non-progressive countries as France, the Netherlands, or the United Kingdom.
• Campaign Finance: It is illegal for groups of persons exceeding one in number to pool money for any political cause.
• Military: The military is scaled back greatly.  Unemployment spikes dramatically.  Defense commitments to friendly nations are discarded.  America minds its own business and wishes its former friends the best of luck should their neighbors become hostile in the future.
• Interrogation: Persons suspected of plotting to bomb public places receive defense lawyers before polite interviews are held regarding placement of said bombs.  Such persons usually can therefore arrange guarantees of total legal immunity before detonation of said bombs and loss of human life.  Harsh tactics are reserved only for those who disagree with the LCS, who may be starved, dehydrated, beaten, deprived of sleep, and forced to consume narcotic substances.

Tax Laws: The central church collects an entirely optional but mandatory 50% tithe. (Unchanged cause I love it.)

Free Speech: Is a universal right to all, but not to offend.