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General Discussion / Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« on: March 13, 2016, 06:14:30 pm »
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 06:09:08 pm
Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 06:04:24 pm
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 05:49:35 pm
Which is probably the reason why we're supporting the Kurds, it's just a mess over there.

Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 05:42:32 pm
The odds of that happening are zero but yet we still persecute this proxy war there when everyone already knows we have nothing to gain there.

We do have something to gain there, the defeat of ISIS.

The existence of ISIS effects the USA how? ISIS makes us a good amount of money. They trade and sell from those territories they occupy far more than the old stagnate firms under the old governments ever did,

Why do we need to defeat them again? We dislike their policy in governance?

If they weren't terrorists who have repeatedly done suicide attacks and are just plain barbaric, then your argument would make sense, but they aren't not-terrorists and not-barbarians.

Whoakay, the US government conducts repeatedly, attacks in other nations, barbaric or not, that kill dozens or hundreds at a time.

The US gov't isn't non-terrorist or not-barbarian either, and I should know I receive my paycheck from them.

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General Discussion / Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« on: March 13, 2016, 06:11:04 pm »
Quote from: RedKing on March 13, 2016, 05:38:05 pm
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 05:27:55 pm
Quote from: RedKing on March 13, 2016, 05:19:34 pm
Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 05:02:52 pm
Quote from: RedKing on March 13, 2016, 03:29:24 pm
NEVER! Cry havoc and unleash the flames of postwars (or something like that...)

I think it'll be hard to stay frosty in the summer once the reconstructed Bernie Bros become Hillary's paramilitaries (Hill's Angels?) and are fighting running Street battles with Trump's Redcaps.

Oh my droogies, it'll be a lovely bit of the old ultraviolence, with the shoom and the tolchoking millicents...

Afaik, Trumps nascent Brownshirts call themselves Lion's Guard, after the mediocre performance of Trump's SS detail when the crazy beardo rushed the stage.

But yeah a new civil war will be interesting! With this time, nuclear weapons! Hope your city is gerrymandered the right way!
Yeah, I don't think the "Lion's Guard" moniker is going to stick. Sounds too royalist. Eagle Guard, maybe, but then that plays into the Nazi symbology even more. Redcaps seems harmless enough and functionally descriptive.

Eagle Guard also plays into Roman symbology, actually, it'd play into the symbology of a bunch of cultures. Not sure how it'd play into nazi symbology since the eagle/hawk was already part of the German Coat of Arms.
There are definitely times I wish they had sided with Ben Franklin and made the turkey our national bird.

So it's 'Lions Guard' because instead of the donkey or elephant, it's a lion to symbolize how Trump and his supporters are dislike the conventional parties.

Trump didn't make this shit up, it's his supporters.


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General Discussion / Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« on: March 13, 2016, 06:04:24 pm »
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 05:49:35 pm
Which is probably the reason why we're supporting the Kurds, it's just a mess over there.

Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 05:42:32 pm
The odds of that happening are zero but yet we still persecute this proxy war there when everyone already knows we have nothing to gain there.

We do have something to gain there, the defeat of ISIS.

The existence of ISIS effects the USA how? ISIS makes us a good amount of money. They trade and sell from those territories they occupy far more than the old stagnate firms under the old governments ever did,

Why do we need to defeat them again? We dislike their policy in governance?

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General Discussion / Re: Theoretical weapons (sciencey people halp)
« on: March 13, 2016, 05:51:54 pm »
Any battlefield with megawatt lasers will have regular old ballistic weapons anyways.

So the enemy tanks that have this multi-layered thermo-resistance ceramics and shiny energy reflective Nichrome is really hard to kill with the 700khw lasers, but still vulnerable to the 50mm HEAT rounds from an autocannon.


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General Discussion / Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« on: March 13, 2016, 05:42:32 pm »
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 05:34:22 pm
Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 05:29:33 pm
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 05:22:50 pm
Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 05:09:30 pm
Can we not go back to Iraq or Syria? The US has absolutely nothing to gain. If the US wanted to help world peace they'd support the Syrian government. Providing arms to religious extremists has never worked in our favor before, ever.

Can we just NOT try to overthrow a fragile government, just once, pretty please? It's okay to leave well enough alone?

We aren't providing arms to religious extremists, ISIS got theirs from the ones the Iraqi army abandoned.

Also, the moral high ground demands that we condemn the Syrian government, not support it.

SO we take the moral highground and support 1960's styled communist Kurds in the flavors of the YPG or PDK or PKK

Only one of them is actually communist styled, and btw, that group you are talking about (PKK I think), they're trying to fight the Turkish government, an ally of ours, and are considered terrorists by the US.

You seem to be trying to simplify the situation where it isn't simple and is best described as a clusterfuck.

I'm exaggerating to illustrate how much of an unworkable clusterfuck it is.

The Kurdish factions are easier to work out than the many gangs fighting in the Syrian war. We think if we give weapons and money to the street gang that most likes Quentin Tarantino movies (an actual dimension the CIA uses to quantify loyalty to the US gov't) that we will somehow profit when Libya, Egypt have been ruined by their rebel movements.

The endstate the policymakers like Hiliary Clinton have been sending money and misery toward is that Syria is a shiny-pony-democracy run by social-media-adept westernized experts who want to sell the US oil companies oil and agricultural products for below-market prices.

The odds of that happening are zero but yet we still persecute this proxy war there when everyone already knows we have nothing to gain there.

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General Discussion / Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« on: March 13, 2016, 05:29:33 pm »
Quote from: smjjames on March 13, 2016, 05:22:50 pm
Quote from: HAMMERMILL on March 13, 2016, 05:09:30 pm
Can we not go back to Iraq or Syria? The US has absolutely nothing to gain. If the US wanted to help world peace they'd support the Syrian government. Providing arms to religious extremists has never worked in our favor before, ever.

Can we just NOT try to overthrow a fragile government, just once, pretty please? It's okay to leave well enough alone?

We aren't providing arms to religious extremists, ISIS got theirs from the ones the Iraqi army abandoned.

Also, the moral high ground demands that we condemn the Syrian government, not support it.

SO we take the moral highground and support 1960's styled communist Kurds in the flavors of the YPG or PDK or PKK or we provide weapons to nebulous, 'extremely trustworthy' street gangs and groups that essentially used to be the corrupt connections between the Syrian military and the local businesses that propped them up?

There isn't any high-ground to support there. I don't see how involving the US military into foriegn civil wars helps the USA at all. Besides a drain to our taxes.

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General Discussion / Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« on: March 13, 2016, 05:09:30 pm »
Can we not go back to Iraq or Syria? The US has absolutely nothing to gain. If the US wanted to help world peace they'd support the Syrian government. Providing arms to religious extremists has never worked in our favor before, ever.

Can we just NOT try to overthrow a fragile government, just once, pretty please? It's okay to leave well enough alone?

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General Discussion / Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« on: March 13, 2016, 05:02:52 pm »
Quote from: RedKing on March 13, 2016, 03:29:24 pm
NEVER! Cry havoc and unleash the flames of postwars (or something like that...)

I think it'll be hard to stay frosty in the summer once the reconstructed Bernie Bros become Hillary's paramilitaries (Hill's Angels?) and are fighting running Street battles with Trump's Redcaps.

Oh my droogies, it'll be a lovely bit of the old ultraviolence, with the shoom and the tolchoking millicents...

Afaik, Trumps nascent Brownshirts call themselves Lion's Guard, after the mediocre performance of Trump's SS detail when the crazy beardo rushed the stage.

But yeah a new civil war will be interesting! With this time, nuclear weapons! Hope your city is gerrymandered the right way!




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General Discussion / Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« on: March 12, 2016, 09:48:42 pm »
Quote from: mainiac on March 12, 2016, 09:25:05 pm
Voting Trump or Sanders would make Congress stop being a check on Presidential authority?  Presidents get to overrule congress if they aren't traditional candidates?

Obama spent the first two years of his presidency dealing with a once every three generations economic crisis and the next six years dealing with a hostile congress that vetos everything he says, what exactly do you expect?

This is actually the best pitch to make for Clinton, IMHO.  Because of gerrymandering there is little chance of democrats taking back congress.  Clinton went into this ready for a long, ugly fight with a republican congress.

Trump and Sanders would get vetoed and obstructed at every opportunity by congress and the senate. Clinton would get obstructed and vetoed because literally nobody in the world actually likes her. Nobody. She 'liberated' Libya with a bombing campaign that dismantled the government military, now everyone in Libya is fleeing the country or is an extremist Islamist militia. Count the number of supporters for her actions in Libya, if you can use that as a gauge for her credibility as a competent president.

'Elect H. Clinton! Wife of B. Clinton! Destroyer of nations! Ransacker of Libya, murderer of Kurds!, Jailer of black men!, warden for 3 million prisoners!, fierce opponent of the US constitution, lies only for your own good!, she only abandoned 1.2 million veterans of the war she voted for!'

Might as well elect the Devil. At least he's consistent!




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General Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Technological Immortality
« on: March 12, 2016, 09:33:54 pm »
Quote from: Criptfeind on March 12, 2016, 09:06:00 pm
To be honest I think I'd probably die if a board was shoved though my brain.

Dude, no, you'd be immortal. When they put up a server to immortalize people with their downloaded minds, that printed circuit board shoved into your brain through that incision the saw-blade makes is the only way you'll escape your resource-consuming, unnecessary physical existence. You'll no longer vote the wrong way or challenge your betters every again! You're family and loved ones can watch your progress in various virtual worlds on the web since it's the only thing you're uploaded consciousness will be capable of doing.

If the elites funding your virtual existence don't get their gov't subsidies, or decide you are no longer a worthwhile asset...

After-all when technology renders the labor of the common man obsolete through automation , what else is there for a human being to do?

Yeah, being a computer function is much better than being a living human being. When the technology is available, you should go yourself, and bring all of your friends and family along to be 'uploaded' as well!

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General Discussion / Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« on: March 12, 2016, 09:23:18 pm »
Quote from: Egan_BW on March 12, 2016, 09:00:38 pm
All hail Obama, the Eternal President.

This is would a much more boring dystopia than people make it out to be. Obama has been one of the least effective presidents in US history. He tried soooo hard to implement a new Assault-Weapon-Ban but now more Americans are armed with MORE amazingly lethal firearms than any point in history.

Clinton would be just like Bush and Obama, combined. An ineffectual warmongering neocon with passing sympathies or talking points to feminism and welfare for the working class, but never too much that it inconveniences the elites and banking corporations that fund her.

Vote Trump or Sanders if you want change. Vote Clinton if you want another or 8 years of stagnation and another low-intensity conflict overseas. Vote anyone else if you want to protest vote.

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General Discussion / Re: Theoretical weapons (sciencey people halp)
« on: March 12, 2016, 08:59:19 pm »
Quote from: Rolepgeek on March 12, 2016, 08:46:16 pm
Really, if it's superconductive over the entire outer plating, you don't need a heatsink. It'll dissipate over the entire surface of the armor.

The guy wants to talk about laser weapons against infantry, if it was some superconductive plate in an infantryman's armor it'd just cook that person, ignite his clothing and it'd be just as lethal as if it penetrated.

On an armored vehicle it'd be the same situation. You'd want materials designed to deflect, block or insulate against thermal energy as much as possible.

If you are a target of laser weapons you want materials that are good insulators, not good conductors of thermal energy. Ceramic, used in bodyarmor and armored vehicles already for other properties is a better choice than plates of synthetic lanthanum-based cuprate perovskite or something.


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General Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Technological Immortality
« on: March 12, 2016, 01:48:38 am »
I dunno how to explain it any better.  :-\ I don't see how the former and latter can be distinct and separate from one another.

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General Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Technological Immortality
« on: March 12, 2016, 01:30:47 am »
Quote from: Descan on March 12, 2016, 12:58:11 am
I'm not interested in whether consciousness directs action or consciousness comes after action. I just wanna live forever, and I want it to be me that's doing the living, not a clone or a robot that thinks it's me. And frankly, I don't see the connection between "Free will doesn't exist!" and "Therefore the person in a computer that thinks they're you won't be you!" Especially when I agree with that latter statement in some situations and not others*, and I have no thoughts on the former statement, because I don't really care about free will.

Man, I'm saying your consciousness is an artifact, a shadow, a by-product of your brain. Your consciousness is directly tied to and secondary to the function of your brain. It's unique to it. If you take drugs, get lobotomized, it alters the function of your brain and thus alters your consciousness. Thus your perception of your self.

So you can't have true consciousness that transcends a specific physical form without free-will.

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General Discussion / Re: Theoretical weapons (sciencey people halp)
« on: March 12, 2016, 01:15:46 am »
Quote from: Amperzand on March 12, 2016, 12:05:21 am
I'm not sure if the term "Barrel" applies to a laser. They're generally pretty integrated.

That said, the sci-fi weapon it most makes sense to create a gatling variant of is a railgun, since the individual barrels don't last very many shots, and that number goes down rapidly if you fire them while they're still warm. It wouldn't really be the kind of rapid-firing weapon you usually associate with gatlings, but it'd work pretty well, and stave off needing to manually replace the multi-ton barrels every six shots.

I read one sci-fi setting where lasers have 'barrels' that are just shields to help protect the lens from battlefield damage.

I think that guy means that the 'barrel' is a discrete laser weapon, just of a different type that's mounted on the same weapon system.

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