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Hey there 'paisano' ˇˇ glad to find there are more spanish playing DF.

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El pais is not supposed to be left biased ; it's pretty much the reference in Spanish newspapers.

So I assume you havent read "El Pais", or you support left yourself. (its no bad to admit it, but you cannot claim something to not be biased just because its biased toward your personal believe)

But, as facts are always better than words, you can see how a lot of people see it, like english wikipedia, or even better, read it on www.elpais.com (english version on www.elpais.com/english/)

Anyway, ok, lets take its a fascist-biased newspaper and everything it says its a lie. But it doesnt make a lie that movement "democracia real ya" is the demostrations caller, and that movement is founded by a left-wing party member, and as far as i know, nothing is less apolitical than a political party.

Where did you get the idea that the turnover will be higher than usual?

Every single poll turns in that direction.

Also, I question your statements on this is covered in a non-biased manner by the media (it was covered late and poorly), and the idea that the protests are some extreme left conspiracy. There's people from all the political spectrum, they weren't sponsored by any political party, and they are criticising both major ones.

You seem to be informed, so you'll already know the demostration has been  called by the movement "democraciarealya.es" (true democracy now). Whose founder is Manuel J. Roman Estrade, also top member of "Izquierda Andaluza" (andalusian left), formerly member of "Izquierda Unida" (united left).
Beside their claims to raise taxes, stronger regulations on companies, expropiation on unocupied homes...

Anyway, i never said that EVERYBODY there is extreme-left, just that left groups are instrumentalicing the wide discontent.

Here you can see a vandalized Intereconomia TV* van after covering yesterday's demostration.

*Intereconomia TV is a well know conservative biased media group.

-and Spain.

There are large protests in Spain that are being muted by the press and government. Some protesters seem to feel it is the same kind of movement as the ones seen throughout the mideast.

Hi all, this is my first post here after years playing DF. Never posted before because my lack on english language.

Anyway, as spanish, this post called my attention. Dont know about media coverage in other countries, but here the demostration is being fully covered by media & gov.
Besides, there's has been lot of demostrations (much larger than this one) in the late years. This one is more covered because there are elections (is "elections" the right english term?) this sunday, and extreme left parties are trying to direct this. You can read the manifest in english here.

Well, im having some trouble to make a point myself (you know, because my bad english), so i resume:
Here's lot of discontent on the goverment (socialist), and a big turnover is expectec on sunday's elections giving many offices to the conservative party. So many people are going to the demostrations in order to show his discontent, but some extreme-left organizations are heading them against the right and the "system".
So all will be over by monday.

Greets, and sorry again about my poor english.