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I've enabled a couple of settings  and it started to crash every time on: preparing text objects.
If I diable random creatures settings, everything works again
error.log

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undefined plant material set to default: AGED_MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP AGED_MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP
undefined plant material set to default: AGED_MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP AGED_MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_random_myth_beast_standard_mdf.txt"
SEAL_ANIMAL_WEEVIL BP Add Type GELDABLE Was Not Used
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_random_myth_beast_standard_mdf.txt"
SEAL_ANIMAL_WEEVIL BP Add Type GELDABLE Was Not Used
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_random_myth_beast_standard_mdf.txt"
SEAL_ANIMAL_WEEVIL BP Add Type GELDABLE Was Not Used
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_random_myth_beast_standard_mdf.txt"
SEAL_ANIMAL_WEEVIL BP Add Type GELDABLE Was Not Used

I am having the same issue. Just which creature settings need to be disabled?

Edit : It was the Plump Helmets under the Mythical Monsters Mod that was causing me issues.

Im interested in joining, just not sure how.

Sorry I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say myself.

Ok Ill focus on non plants for now. I just figured we would need some plant like things eventually right?

Oh sorry im pretty novice. I guess what I meant was chloroplasts. Similar to a plant. They are used in the same way a plant uses them. The currents dont do anything useful I more just added that part to help with a mental image of what this thing would look like. Also I think it would most likely be black or dark brown/green in color in order to absorb the most light while deep in the water.


After thinking about it a bit I dont think "mouth" is really the appropriate word to use here. It is more of a tube running up the stem section that attaches the Bottom structure to the water bladder. I dont have too much knowlage on the way plants function but I was kind of thinking that it would serve the same purpose as root structures do for terrestrial plants. So basicly the tube just gathers nutrients from the water or more directly while sitting on the ocean floor and then ingests them in whatever way plants ingest things. Pockmarlotis actually derives its name from the distinct markings it leaves on the ocean floor after a collection of these rest upon it.

I would appreciate any suggestions you have for making this creature work in a primative setting. Also if it does not seem feasable just let me know. I still have many more ideas.

I forgot to mention that the tube does run through the center of the bottom knob.

Alright I went ahead and skimmed the rest of the thread. Wow you two have been going back and forth for some time. I'm impressed. Some great ideas as well.

I had an idea for more rapid organism development. Basically what I am having a hard time finding is reasons for each of your creature developments. I may be completely off topic but isn't the reason for a change to a creature just as important then the change itself. Basically without some kind of external stress on the creature wouldn't any mutation just either completely not work or just blend into the rest of the genetic mutations due to being no better or worse then its sibling species?

Now I do not claim to be an expert or even as educated as the two of you on this subject at all but it seems to me that you could come up with genetic mutations based on one or more of the following external pressures to any organism.

1. Competition by another creature: Living organisms are constantly evolving to out compete their neighbors for resources and space. This does not apply to competition within a single species because for the sake of a species survival there is no distinction between a given individual and its nearly identical genetic cousin two inches away that happens to be stealing all of his food.

2. Drastic changes in environment: An example of this could be a slowly rerouteing river that is gradually decreasing the salinity of a tidal region. This could mean that the vast majority of the salt adapted creatures would die out but those that happened onto the secret of freshwater survival would be the kings of that environment and receive all of the resources from it for many generations.

3. Increased reproductivity efficiency: From my own private musings I would assume that this has a much grater evolutionary weight to it then more normal functions of life. As far as I can tell adaptations are really split into two groups those that allow procreation and those that allow survival until procreation. So I would think that this would be a very good incentive for adaptation.

Now in order to combat these pressures the creature can adapt in a number of ways. From what I can tell at first there are very few ways a bacteria (or whatever the starting form is called) can change in order to overcome the challenge. This leads me to believe that the more complex the creature the more possible mutations that can overcome any given external pressure. So I think it would be a good idea to list the early stage developments that could overcome the changing environments the creatures live in.

1. Change in Mobility
2. Change in reproductive system
3. Change in energy acquisition system
4. Change in defensive mechanism or behavior(Are behaviors covered in genetics?)

My proposal is that you take your creature and then apply one of the external pressures to it, then figure out an interesting way to use one or more of the possible genetic developments to overcome it.

Now obviously this is not nearly a full list or quite possibly even close to accurate. In fact I am half suspecting that I am way off topic. However, I am just writing this in hopes of maybe joining the conversation and giving y'all something to think about at least. Please feel free to amend and change the short lists I came up with just now.