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What would happen if you lowered the ignition or boiling point of whatever material it was made out of?

Oh my.  You'd have to dump their bodies into a magma shaft instead of just burying them in a regular graveyard. 

Sounds awesome. 

Or wall up their tomb. Or use them as traps.

"Urist! The Goblins have brought trolls! They've broken through the doors, and half the guard are still hospitalised!"

"Are they passing the catacombs?"

"Yes, but..."

"Unseal the Hushed Casket."



Of course, dropping invaders into a zombie pit, well, that's just a self-stocking trap, that is. The more you drop the more that rise.

Or leave the slaughtered gobbo siege out to rise and harass the next wave.

Well, you could use burrow restrictions(or just walls, airlocks, etc.) to split your dwarves into near-surface and deep mines populations. With a drop-shaft, sending loot down is a simple matter of dumping up top and reclaiming it down in the mines.

You could even do your trading up there, either making the goods up top, or transporting high-value item from the mines. Then drop the loot down the shaft.

You could rely entirely on your military for defence, but for now I'd personally wait until some of the bugs are worked out. I've a hospital full of soldiers because one or two guys are hogging all the weapons.

So I was just having them kill a hoary marmot, and one of my dwarves had got it in his head to use two training swords (WTF) instead of the artifact frakking steel mace that he was assigned to use...

I see this a bit - assign a steel battleaxe, guy's running around with 5 in his right hand, along with three training axes. And attacking things with one of the training axes.

Still murdered them, I guess naked steel weapons are too merciful for his taste. Goblins are lucky he doesn't have access to any spoons.

...and as soon as he had beaten the marmot into the yellow range with blue internal organs with the training swords, and it started flitting between unconscious, stunned, faint, and other such states, all the other dwarves in the squad just froze in place and STOOD THERE, even the ones who were only 3 squares away...

Which is exactly what they were all doing when I had ordered them to kill the titans (who were similarly wounded due to wrestling with civilians and fighting dogs, at the time I had given the titan kill orders).

Maybe it has something to do with them thinking unconscious = not hostile or something? I know I read something about this befor, but it might have just been speculation. Sorry.


My own problem is marksdwarves not carrying any bolts. They're allocated, in stock, have quivers, and I looked inside the quivers, too. I'm stumped.

Quote from: Wolfius on April 12, 2010, 12:04:02 am

In other news, I have mica and galena sitting in magma and refusing to melt. I wonder if it's just going to take a while, their melting points were changed, or something else is going on?

Melting points have changed. Wiki

Ah, thanks. Thank Toady for the (h)ide setting, then.

I often use ramps when I'm digging near the surface so I get nice clean walls, but I neglected to check if the very thin grassy area (it was only three or four tiles wide!) on the Z-level above my camp had any trees on it. I just wish he hadn't vanished so many noble positions.

Channeling leaves ramps now. It's essentially the same as traditional ramping, but designated and mined from above. Which means they can't dig out a tile with a tree on it, which means no collapses.


In other news, I have mica and galena sitting in magma and refusing to melt. I wonder if it's just going to take a while, their melting points were changed, or something else is going on?

Only thing I can think to suggest is a lever-operated cage in an enclosure next to the pit, with a retracting bridge over it. Getting them to move off the safe cage tile might be tricky, however.

You might also try lever-cage -> pressure plate -> long retracting bridge -> cage trap(for safety/reuse if it doesn't work), with an open end to bait them over the pit, specifics depending on bridge response time VS critter run speed.