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something more simple that doesn't use TWBT.

could you name one from the starter pack ?
I'm a bit lost to find out which ones don't need it.

And which Print Mode should i use then ?

I finally decided to give Adventurer Mode a try.

I am confused, which game versions have it at all - for example I read that it was disabled in 50.04.

So my question is - Which game version is the recommended one for the best Adventurer Mode experience ?

The PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack is the latest Pack apparently - and it's for 0.47.05

Is there a newer game version which has much better gameplay for AM ?
like mouse support - and does mouse support even make sense for AM ?

And if the answer is to use that starter pack - is there a guide to optimize it for AM ? like disabling all unneeded tools etc.

Thanks for your time

hotkeys - good idea, but since i don't always recognize interesting stuff by name (being a bit overwhelmed atm) I'd run out of hotkeys soon i fear.

DFHack - indeed - I now found the 'prospect'-command, which shows me the z-levels where stuff is found. thanks.

thanks

>make me feel privileged to have grown up in a time when computer games were keyboard-only

I had my first computer some 30 years ago - a VC 20 - i have played hundreds of games since - many without a mouse.
and i have spent much time with roguelike games, too.
there are many things in DF which cry for mouse-support - and a combination of keyboard and mouse would be progressing the playing a lot.


>I don't understand how the ui makes this game unplayable for some people

well, most menus differ by style, scheme, hotkeys, intuition and such. that's what i meant by 'consitency'.
i have a hard time to get anything done because i have to do a lot of thinking about how to do things in a given sutuation/setting.
when i get back to the game after a year i have to learn everything from scratch.


>you poor creature!  ask for a refund, you clearly deserve it.  how dare thins asshole, who makes this game for free to make us happy, not cater to your demand for a "better interface."

yikes - i do not demand anything. - i am glad that there is such a game like this at all. i just think that with some changes at the right spot it would be SO much better - freeing my head from climbing the mountain of how to beat the interface - and letting me concentrate on actually playing the game.


>I don't know how much you played the game before you gave up on it. Was it long enough to get a feel for the gameplay?

oh yes.


>Clockwork Empires, Maia

I will have a look at these - thank you.


>Dwarf Therapist

i think i tried that some years ago and couldn't get it to run - i'll try again



i think i will take another effort on DF very soon. it is just too interesting.
thank (most of) you for your answers.
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well - i really want to love DF.
i can live with ASCII-grafics.

i cannot, however, live with a horrible user interface.

unintuitive - unconsistent - almost no mouse support.

it isn't that difficult to redo the UI i would imagine - especially compared by the amount of work which is done to other parts of the game.

well - i think this is very sad and i will come back in a year to see if this got better.