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Quote from: 4maskwolf on March 28, 2022, 05:04:33 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on March 28, 2022, 05:01:11 pm

WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO GIVE ME THE ONE YOU GAVE ME IF YOU COULD USE IT YOURSELF?

I AM A VERY BAD CHOICE FOR IT SINCE I TYPICALLY DON'T LIVE LONG ENOUGH FOR IT TO REALLY MATTER.

Because I trust you and expected to die by some fuckery last night, be it a misguided town vigilante, the mafia, a third party, or a redirected kill of some sort. For understandable reasons I wasn't going to give just anyone that item so I gave it to my top town.

WHY NOT USE THE ITEM DURING N1?

KNOWING WHAT IT IS IT MAKES SENSE NOT TO, BUT I STILL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

Quote from: 4maskwolf on March 28, 2022, 04:15:59 pm

Honestly it'll make more sense if I claim my role so I'll just do that. I kinda expected to be entirely role-wiped by Toony last night but I wasn't actually auto-wiped by Toonyman.

I'm a scavenger. I get one-shot items when people die, and they appear to be at least loosely based on their role based on the two I've received so far. The auto that provides my scavenging ability also tells me I can give them away as a free action, but does not provide what priority that action is. It's also my only ability, barring the ones I get from scavenging.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ITEMS ARE AND THE ABILITIES THEY PROVIDE BEFORE YOU GIFT THEM AWAY?

I think what is bothering me the most about 4maskwolf is that their claim is confusing.
Even Jim's claim at least makes some marginal sense.
Now, I know what I have.  And others have shared what they have.  So, we know that most players have:
Auto
Ability 1
Ability 2

Now, there may be variations on that.  But I just can't make sense of 4maskwolf.  Which is exactly how scum would play, since mafia probably have:
Auto
Ability 1
Ability 2
Mafiakill

With the abilities in mafia hands likely being only useful to scum, or marginally useful for town.

Quote from: Roden on March 28, 2022, 03:13:00 pm

Quote from: EuchreJack on March 28, 2022, 09:09:38 am

Quote from: Roden on March 28, 2022, 04:02:51 am

I was worried scum could have a Roleblocker and stop my Vig that way, but no one seemed to have an issue with their action last night except NQT, who only failed because I Commuted, so I doubt one exists.

I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but the town vs mafia power disparity feels very off. I would've expected at least a blocker of some kind, but without one I'm just confused about what exactly they're supposed to do. Does anyone else feel this way?

Well, if you have multiple abilities, it stands to reason that mafia has multiple abilities.  Thus, they probably have a roleblocker that they didn't use.
Additionally, we won't know the mafia vs. town power balance until the game is over.

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 28, 2022, 06:49:48 am

2. Jack what did you do last night? Did I miss it?

I didn't claim.
Since everyone has claimed, I might as well.
I tracked Maximum Spin visiting Toonyman.  So it only bolsters existing players, but I felt it best to be clear whom I am bolstering.

Interesting. NQT already claimed Tracker.

Credit where credit is due, good point Roden.  For now, I can accept two town trackers.  But I'll add NQT to my POE.

I would say my POE is 4maskwolf/NQT/Jim.  Roden is on the periphery, but I think Roden is town.

Quote from: EuchreJack on March 28, 2022, 09:09:38 am

Quote from: Roden on March 28, 2022, 04:02:51 am

I was worried scum could have a Roleblocker and stop my Vig that way, but no one seemed to have an issue with their action last night except NQT, who only failed because I Commuted, so I doubt one exists.

I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but the town vs mafia power disparity feels very off. I would've expected at least a blocker of some kind, but without one I'm just confused about what exactly they're supposed to do. Does anyone else feel this way?

Well, if you have multiple abilities, it stands to reason that mafia has multiple abilities.  Thus, they probably have a roleblocker that they didn't use.
Additionally, we won't know the mafia vs. town power balance until the game is over.

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 28, 2022, 06:49:48 am

2. Jack what did you do last night? Did I miss it?

I didn't claim.
Since everyone has claimed, I might as well.
I tracked Maximum Spin visiting Toonyman.  So it only bolsters existing players, but I felt it best to be clear whom I am bolstering.

Interesting. NQT already claimed Tracker.

Quote from: 4maskwolf on March 28, 2022, 11:18:46 am

Quote from: Maximum Spin on March 28, 2022, 02:14:59 am

Quote from: 4maskwolf on March 27, 2022, 10:23:03 pm

Jim said he received something, but he's smartly not claiming what it is. I'm not told what priority my giving items "action" is but I assume it outspeeds any disruption just for simplicity's sake. All I know is that the item did leave my possession.

4maskwolf, I don't buy it, I know for a fact that there is a specific numerical priority for free actions that "outspeed everything else" and I do not believe that you, specifically, have your priorities hidden.

My ability to hand off items it attached to an auto, and thus has no listed priority.

That's not true, you already claimed it was a free action.

4mask, who does Roden shoot if you flip town? Jack still?

Quote from: ToonyMan on March 27, 2022, 06:00:47 pm

Also for what it's worth: I still believe all 3 of The Millers more than 4mask (and Knightwing/NQT).

Fair enough.. I do have a question. 4mask gave a present to Jim, but I don't think Jim said he recieved a present, just that he redirected it to 4mask. I assume you got a message saying your bussing succeeded, so wouldn't I have received it? But I never actually got anything, other than the knife that showed up at the beginning of the days post in thread. And that bits more lore than anything else.