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And the far left have their own versions of all this stuff. And you can't even question those views without screaming wailing and accusations. You can just what is "religiously" believed by how agonized the believers get when their worldview is questioned. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth when radical leftist ideas are questioned with actual research or evidence.

Going "so the capitalist patriarchy got to you too ..." whenever you provide evidence that disagrees with them is objectively the same tactic as claiming all naysayers with evidence are influenced by the devil: if you dismiss the influence of the devil, that's only because the devil influenced you to say that. e.g. a secular example would be if you provided concrete evidence and a logic-based argument that the "rape culture" thing is an overblown moral panic then you're met by the counter-argument that you're an agent of the rape culture. This is religious panic style thinking: the hysteria, the conspiracies, and the labeling of all who question the conspiracy as being agents of the conspiracy.

EDIT: the irony with the rape culture thing is that feminists who push "rape culture" are the ones agitating for women to be scared by hyping up the statistics and fears at every possible moment, thus ensuring women are as scared as possible. While the supposed agents of "rape culture" are apparently those who downplay the situation and point at statistics showing women are safer than ever. Which group, exactly, is using fear of rape to control women? I'd say the group who is trying to maximize women's fear is logically the one using fear. It's an oxymoron to label people who are trying to minimize fear as the fear merchants. But this is what you expect from quack thinking, and it's a system of thought processes common to many types of extreme ideology, including religions.

For the record the star and crescent was due to the ottomans using it as their symbol and controlling most of the middle east and having a huge influence on Islam. Also its actually the evolved version of a mongol bow symbol.

Quote from: Tawa on February 19, 2018, 12:39:24 am

Is it necessary to argue over whether something is "real" cyberpunk, anyway? Classifying fiction like species of animals or types of minerals is a futile task. If it feels like cyberpunk, it's cyberpunk.

Meh... no argument taking place.  Just answering Cinder's question to the best of my ability as to why they might have heard the show isn't really cyberpunk.