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I highly doubt I'm going to have to claim again. I'm a sandwich person that lives in a giant refrigerator and sleeps between two slices of bread. I've already poured my heart and soul out to everyone. I would really love to know if someone had the ability to cast spells that could possibly turn me into a sandwich again or had any other ideas on how that could work.

I wish I had been able to get in here to see that there was going to be a tie last time. I would have switched my vote. I think it's high time we lynch someone who can actually give us some insight into the game. Until further notice, Leafsnail, for being undeniably scummy and proving he is the most dangerous of the claimed Evil people. Although at this point, I wouldn't be opposed to a Cado lynch, I'm going to say that Leafsnail is more scummy and thus a better lynch target.

Deathsword. Shorten.

So I was right about you, mastahcheese. I should have pressed my case harder. Sadly, pressuring isn't something I do well. I find that I'm not a very threatening person.

I sniffed out two scum, but never would have figured out the third. Awesome job, wolf!

And it was a pleasure working with you as well, NQT. I learned quite a bit.

Caz:

Quote from: MyOwnWorstEnemy on March 03, 2014, 05:31:46 pm

Quote from: darkpaladin109 on March 03, 2014, 05:00:18 pm

I only requested a replacement since I don't think I'm doing an adequate job with my current role.

Uh... are you aware of what you seem to be implying here?

If he's cop we're all screwed lol

Which is precisely why I'm not voting him. I'm not entirely sure this is a claim. And if it is, he might actually be Union. If we are all screwed if he's a cop, why aren't you taking this a bit more seriously?

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Tiruin:

What.

Quote from: Caz on March 03, 2014, 08:44:48 pm

Quote from: MyOwnWorstEnemy on March 03, 2014, 05:31:46 pm

Quote from: darkpaladin109 on March 03, 2014, 05:00:18 pm

I only requested a replacement since I don't think I'm doing an adequate job with my current role.

Uh... are you aware of what you seem to be implying here?

If he's cop we're all screwed lol

Eh? It could be taken any which way (other than the superficial implication) like, vanilla. I'm doing bad at my current role in being vanilla.
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Unless y'all see something like a cue in that statement that I don't. Please enlighten.

He said "role." He's implying that he's not doing very well in his "role." I was asking if he knew how people could take it since "role" can be taken to mean he's a cop or the like. Personally, I'm not sure whether or not he's throwing out a hint that he actually has a role aside from being town or if he's just saying he doesn't think he's doing very well in general. I'm just pointing it out because that's not something he wants to blurt out because people might assume he's claiming, like people are doing now.

Also, you quoted me once without asking/saying anything. Are you just trying to get me to rethink things or something?

Move to I14 and shoot mastahcheese!

How many of you think you'll sign up for Round 3?

But of course!

First off, extend. I'd like to hear from as many people as possible before the day ends.

Secondly, Solymr,
How would NQT attacking SBC be too obvious?

Thirdly, mastahcheese, upon looking back at the goings on lately, you've been acting very differently than you were in the BM. D1 you went after Solymr and basically ignored IG, pursuing Solymr relentlessly and seeming to think that every little oddly worded phrase was a scumtell. He even told you that English isn't his first language and small little inconsistencies in his wording arose from this. Even with IG and all of his slips and tells, you never abandoned your pursuit of Solymr. Even when it was just down to small little things like when Solymr said this. and you said this. And then you called him out here. I fail to see how this is scummy. I was town in my first mafia game and I was constantly asking myself "is this how a townie should act?" because I didn't want to mess up and give off any scum tells. I do believe Solymr is town and that you were trying your damnedest to catch him in a slip. Yet it's D2 and you've dropped your case on him. Were you trying to save IG by drawing attention away from him and now that it's not a very worthwhile endeavor, you've moved on to other things?

And last but not least...

Tiruin:

MOWE

Quote from: MyOwnWorstEnemy on February 26, 2014, 10:05:13 pm

Tiruin:

Quote from: Tiruin on February 23, 2014, 08:56:50 pm

Everyone else: Do you seriously believe that today should be spent in debate and all? What if the scumteam knows how to circumnavigate the usual 'scumtells' and play easy? As in, play on the aggressive?
How do you treat scumtells when done by a player who has a reputation of being scummy? How do you treat analysis from a player who has a reputation of being 'good' at hiding scumtells?[/b]

Well I think D1 can be a bunch of debate. What else could it be? Lies are easy to keep to in the beginning, but are hard to maintain over time. Here's where we begin testing the mettle of the scum and seeing how good they are at acting. There is no such thing as perfect. The scumteam may know how to avoid most scumtells, but odds are they'll slip up somewhere.
Scummy players also have a norm I would guess. Even if they're scummy as town, I'd expect the scumminess when they're actually scum to be quite different. If they're good at hiding scumtells, well like I said, they have to slip up sometime.

Hmm, interesting. You see this as a game of when people will slip and see differing mindset-actions according to role or alignment. Admirable.
What else can D1 be varies according to what the people put into it--the best way to aim is to follow it up, meaning rather than a debate of two specified fronts, it turns to a general attitude of discernment and curiosity. Which means a bunch of words to look back on.
Though I do agree with most here: how would you discern a town-slip from a scum-slip? Is it in their reaction, their response, or how they do so-or anything else?

I'm not entirely sure there is a difference between a town-slip and a scum-slip, aside from one being an innocent slip and the other not so innocent. After one makes a slip, town or scum, how they react to accusations can tell a lot about them. For example, getting extremely defensive in the face of accusation is pretty scummy.

Mastahcheese

MyOwnWorstEnemy

Quote from: MyOwnWorstEnemy on February 27, 2014, 07:03:23 pm

... putting words in your mouth by misreading your question? I seriously thought you were calling me out on that question. But I'm being an idiot. Yes, I am just reading things with my name attached at present, and not very well I might add. Especially since your questions seem to be more extensive. My brain seems to pick out parts of the question that stand out and whilst I'm answering that, the other parts slip my mind (makes test-taking extremely hard for me).

You're right, mastahcheese. I haven't been paying much attention. My attention has been on school work lately. I guess trying to stay active with my attention elsewhere is a bad idea. In this, I'm failing to give the thread the attention it needs. Things are starting to slack off at present so I'll head on back and reread the thread meticulously.

Although I feel the need to say that you're not the first person to just leave me out of a post of questions. To me, that's not a scumtell on it's own. Maybe you just don't have anything for me to answer. Even if I had noticed this, I probably wouldn't have been bothered by it anyway.

I don't even know what to say to this anymore. Apparently I'm just expecting too much out of people, and I can see that you're starting to get distressed by my demeanor. So I'll just wait before getting back to you. I'm sorry if I've upset you.

I'm distressed because I was being an idiot. I'm not ticked because you're calling me out on things that you think are scummy. I was being honest in my last post, not necessarily angry and I didn't intend for it to come out that way. Here's a little tidbit about me: when someone points out something I did wrong, I do get a bit angry, but I get angry at myself for not being as good as I should be, hence MyOwnWorstEnemy.

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Caz:

Quote from: 4maskwolf on February 28, 2014, 03:18:33 pm

Caz: Could you explain some of your reads, please. There were a few ones that were unclear.

man, you should honestly ignore them. idk why i even posted

Then can you give us some real reads perhaps?

lynching conferendates is a better strayteg imo

What?