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Besides those you should create some tables and chairs, perhaps a dining area for your dwarves. Maybe draft two dwarves into the military and set up a barrack to start training them. If you have no plants set some dwarves to have the gather plants labor enabled and designate some plants to be gathered. Once you have plants and barrels/pots set up a still and start brewing some alcohol. Make some goods either stone or wood depending on what is immediately more plentiful for trade, build a trade depot. Pasture your animals in areas large enough for them to graze in (see wiki for those values), set up bedrooms. Plant your fields. If you don't know how to do some of that and for other ideas http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Tutorials

Edit: A pit zone wouldn't help. You only need a dump stockpile to prevent from getting a loop of dwarves putting the items in the stockpile, then dumping them and putting them back in the stockpile. As your goal is to destroy the items your dump tile not being a stockpile should have no effect.

I set mine up essentially the exact same way. What isn't working and exactly how isn't it working?

Are your dwarves not putting stuff in your stockpile?
Are they not putting them in the minecart?
Are they not dumping the minecart?
You said refuse did you mean butchery byproducts and corpse or simply unwanted items?
If butchery byproducts could any of it be considered to be outside?
If unwanted items have you set the items in the refuse section of the desired items menu or in their proper sections?

Edit2: Is it your stop you have set to dump south? or your track stop? If it is the former than try deconstruction and rebuilding your track stop. it should look like this:

Yes, children will become adults at 12, however there is a growth bug. It doesn't stop creatures from going from baby to child to adult but it does make it make it so that their size doesn't increase, which affects certain things like combat and butchering returns. If you have the LNP or DFHack there is a fix/tweak/binary patch that will fix this. In LNP it is enabled by default.

I am currently trying to do something similar and have used DFHack's fix/population-cap force to make it so that I receive no immigration. I have also used startdwarf to give myself a single extra dwarf at embark, as I am not certain dwarves will marry and breed with their cousins. This may be a moot point as the current mechanics may make it possible because once the first group of children reaches adulthood both they and your original seven will begin producing children again.

I suspect any relation tracked by the game will disallow marriage. Ie, aunts, uncles, and cousins (and of course parents, grandparents, and siblings). What might be okay though is if for a dwarf to marry his grandparents siblings or his parents cousins provided the age gap is within ten years, which the mechanics do make possible. if unlikely.

Applegren may have been a little late in saying so but it was a great find as the thread did exist before the entry by about 12 hours.

The population cap isn't a hard line setting. Even if you set it to 7 you will still receive two migration waves unless you use a DFhack command. Also if you change it later the settings can take affect later within the same fort. You could run a fort for twenty years with a seven pop-cap and then raise it to 150 and probably after the next time your outpost liaison show up you would start receiving immigrants so it isn't as if setting it lower is a for all time choice.

Short of that you will need to kill all the immigrants you get and likely either memorialize them or entomb them which detracts a lot from your goal of building calmly and enjoying every bit of your fortress without worrying about overpopulation.

If you want any control of your population outside of killing every immigrant which has other problems besides the above you will need to lower your pop-cap. Even if you alter your pop cap eventually your dwarves will marry and begin producing children unless you shut that off or tweak those settings.

Why do you not want to alter the pop-cap? Someone might have more specific advice if you let us know that.

... Yeah I had a moment there. I generally set up QSP with two stockpile links one take, one give but I figured since it was lacking a give condition it may need to be guided otherwise it wouldn't dump. Still makes sense to me actually I will test some things and see how they work out and come back.

Edit: Confirmed you don't need to guide it to be dumped with the proper setup. So if you have any other conditions besides take from stockpile that could be causing issues and if you get rid of them any time a dwarf puts something in the minecart it will get dumped.

I seem to remember trying that after posting that and got the results slothen expected but I also think it depends on whether they are actually wearing them at the moment. If you disable relevant labors (mining, woodcutting, hunting) the items can be dropped or if you draft them and assign them a uniform that replaces clothing they will drop them at which point other dwarves will dump them or they won't pick them back up if forbidden. I had a marksdwarf go around with no quiver despite quivers being available because he had his heart set on his old one that I had dumped. I wasn't sure at the time whether it would work like that hence the question. Still not sure what I think will work will but it seems like it should to me.