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Wouldn't it be easier to just add [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE] to the [SKULKING] entity in the raws?

If you can catch I wild female I think you can continue to produce wild offspring if you have a tame male so long as you never try to tame the female. Not sure though, it may cause a loyalty cascade if you make the prospect attack the animal and it is consider belonging to your fort. Seems somewhat ridiculous to me as you can still order it butchered without causing one.

I prefer my forts to be basically self sufficient. I will buy food, animals for breeding purposes, and metal objects to melt, but beyond that I would prefer to make everything possible in house.

I am OCD when it comes to fort design. It is the single biggest cause of me losing a fort. I know I could use construction underground to get rid of things like patchwork forts but I would know they were constructions. Beyond that it isn't enough to appear the same it would bug me knowing that the construction were different materials.

Elves aren't the only surface dwellers, there are also humans and I much prefer to be associated with the latter. Actually if I dug down into the caverns I would likely use the underground crops just as much.

Quote from: Panando on June 06, 2014, 10:38:45 pm

dfhack command "prospect all" gives a summary of all available stone types.

Sorry if it's noob question but isn't command like this cheating?

It's a matter of opinion. If you have a specific goal or purpose in mind and you need sand it's a lot quicker and cleaner to do this than it is to embark on every locations that meet any other conditions you may have. Also if the choice is between doing this and wasting hours upon hours of gameplay before finding out the site doesn't meet all the requirements you want and that you need to start over, what would you do. If you have no specific goal or purpose in mind then yes this is cheating, if you do but you need to be sure specific things are in the embark then it's just due process. For how I want to set things up I actually need to use the dfhack command to give myself an extra dwarf and I am still not positive I won't be wasting my time. My time, my rules, this is not cheating. Your time, your rules, this may or may not be cheating.


Edit: Do evil biomes only have one surprise per biome? I have seen an 'evil' rain and if that is the only thing that is going to happen I am not sure if it makes the embark suck for lack of fun or just plain entertaining.

How can you tell which metals it has? I'm not a complete noob but there are some things like this that I can't figure out.

I run 'prospect all' in dfhack during the embark selection it gives an estimate of what is there in terms of stone, ores, gems, and soil. Once you have embarked you can run it again and it will give you more accurate values for those as well as information on types and numbers of plants and trees and list levels you can find water and magma at. I believe that at embark it will also tell you how many Z-levels there are in the embark. ninja'd

That does sound awesome! Can you post the seed?

I used the seed from melomel's post in the DF2012 World Gen Cookbook

My specific seed is below:

[WORLD_GEN]
[TITLE:NEW RANDOM SEED]
[SEED:BnUg9WgsgUHRjpd9tGx4]
[HISTORY_SEED:HO8loeZuudLwX2DWLpz2]
[NAME_SEED:19cTxm3n3shw0lx1JR5w]
[CREATURE_SEED:o5WomyqoyUMbutUy6frg]
[DIM:65:65]
[EMBARK_POINTS:1274]
[END_YEAR:10]
[BEAST_END_YEAR:2:20]
[REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
[CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:1]
[ELEVATION:1:400:400:400]
[RAINFALL:20:100:300:300]
[TEMPERATURE:35:70:300:300]
[DRAINAGE:0:100:300:300]
[VOLCANISM:35:100:3200:3200]
[SAVAGERY:35:100:400:400]
[ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:2:1:1:1:1:1]
[RAIN_FREQUENCY:2:1:2:3:2:1]
[DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:2:1:1:3:2:1]
[TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:2:1:1:3:2:1]
[SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:2:1:1:4:3:2]
[VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:2:1:6:8:6:3]
[MINERAL_SCARCITY:800]
[MEGABEAST_CAP:8]
[SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:18]
[TITAN_NUMBER:12]
[TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:0]
[DEMON_NUMBER:18]
[NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:4]
[BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:4]
[VAMPIRE_NUMBER:24]
[WEREBEAST_NUMBER:24]
[SECRET_NUMBER:24]
[REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:24]
[DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:24]
[EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:12]
[EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:12]
[GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:450:500:1000]
[EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:450:500:0]
[PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:3]
[PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:2]
[COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[VOLCANO_MIN:5]
[REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:80:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:325:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:300:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:300:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:300:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:300:0:0]
[EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
[RIVER_MINS:15:15]
[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
[OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
[SUBREGION_MAX:5000]
[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:50]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:50]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:25]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:50]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:10]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:25]
[CAVE_MAX_SIZE:50]
[MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:12]
[NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:24]
[ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
[SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
[TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:6]
[TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:800]
[SITE_CAP:80]
[PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
[ELEVATION_RANGES:0:0:0]
[RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
[DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
[SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:600:0]
[VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:600:0]
The embark is:

Yeah the two terrifying tiles are on the edge. Main reason I asked was to find out if pickaxes were an absolute neccessity or if I could get by long enough to forge my own if I brought materials. I will take two copper ones any way and go from there.

<-snip->

Thanks for the answer. I remember reading something about this before but I thought it was more an inquiry into the current state than about what the state would be in the next release.