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Is it me, or does Terra Vitae not have the "Vehicle dodging" mechanic that actually makes car chases survivable if you can't escape within the first turn? Got into a car chase today when the CCS chased after me for shooting up a Judge Hall, and nobody was dodging the bullets with their vehicles. Not even the CCS, who presumably had more skilled drivers than my Liberals

Sadly, no - that feature was added to vanilla LCS after TV was developed. We really need to re-sync the mod with the core game. Maybe we should embark on that this coming week?

Another thing I noticed about Terra Vitae was that spouses of new recruits can occasionally join them in the fight for Liberalism, which is a feature that I absolutely love. Does anything affect the odds of a spouse also joining up?

Yes, quite a lot of things, in fact. The code is in SeekRecruitSpouse() in additionalchars.cpp. To summarize:

1. The most important determining factor is how the liberal was recruited. Liberals recruited via persuasion are more likely to bring their spouses than liberals recruited via seduction. Enlightened liberals will never come with spouses (you didn't kidnap the spouse to enlighten xer).

2. The second main factor is the recruit's age. Recruits have a maximum chance of being married at age 32, and drop off rather precipitously if they are younger and more gradually if they are older. Thus if you want to recruit people's spouses, it's best to aim for recruits in their early thirties.

3. Conservatives are more likely to be married in the first place. Therefore if you recruit a liberal via persuasion, it is somewhat more likely that the recruit will bring xyr spouse if xe was previously conservative prior to recruitment. However, liberals are more likely to approve of and be open about their extramarital affairs with their spouses, so if you are recruiting via seduction, a recruit is more likely to bring xyr spouse if xe was already liberal prior to recruitment.

4. Every profession belongs to a social class, and some social ranks are more likely to have spouses than others (although only the destitute gang members and homeless people are markedly different). People you recruit are also typically more likely to marry within their social class or a nearby social class. The classes are destitute, blue-collar, academic, military, professional, respected, and rich.

5. CCS members are more relatively likely to be married to fellow CCS members than would be expected for people at large. The same applies to criminal professions like gang members and the Mafia, to the super-powered community, and to Terra Vitae. The Terra Vitae leader is always married (to a TV Agent).

6. People are assumed to be 80% heterosexual and 20% homosexual. Homosexual conservatives are less likely to be married than homosexual liberals. Vivian Pines is always heterosexual, but her successor(s) can have either sexual orientation (although in her case this doesn't matter for having a spouse).


Also note that there is a "Cheat Marry Me" code.

These look like compiler errors of the sort that can happen when you don't have the complete set of libraries. You were able to build it before, right?

Ah, I see what you mean now.

LCS does actually have something qualitatively like that in the game already: the Stalinist Comrade Squad and its associated political alignment, which is L+ a some of the issues but C+ on the rest. For a while, there was a plan to incorporate many different alternative alignments akin to that of the SCS, but so far that hasn't been implemented. Eventually, I plan on revamping the electoral system in LCS, specifically to accommodate things like this.

As for Trump himself, personally I'd rather wait to see his politics in practice before trying to make up a new political alignment specifically to describe him. He has said or focused on different things at different stages of his campaign. I really don't feel like I have a good enough impression of him to parody yet (and am inclined to doubt that many other people do either).

However, it is inevitable that politics in America will change, e.g. liberalism in LCS is very obviously post-Vietnam war in sensibilities; before the war, it was the liberal Democrats who were the party of war while the conservative Republicans were the party of peace. Ergo we should consider restructuring LCS' political system to incorporate some amount of new flexibility.

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So, with that, the plan that I had for restructuring politics was to have an array of probabilities for each elected office (president, house, or senate) seat in any election that will reflect public opinion on all views. The L+ alignment, for example, be at its maximum probability if all views are 100% liberal, while other alignments will want some views to not be liberal, etc. Non-elected offices (supreme court) will work in a similar fashion, but instead of checking public opinion directly will create a surrogate public opinion based on the alignments of the offices responsible for appointing said offices.

This idea has the following problems:

1. Right now, the different political alignments are defined by color. There are only eight colors allowed by the Curses engine that LCS runs on: green, red, blue, cyan, magenta, yellow, white, and black. Of these, blue and white are the only two unused colors with regard to political alignment (black is used for the background), and even red doubles-up for Stalinist and C+ alignments. If we are going to add many more alignments, we will need to think about what alternative ways there are to identify different alignments.

2. The composition of the house and senate on the Liberal Agenda screen will need a massive reformat if we add more than maybe one or two more alignments, because there isn't enough space on the screen. There also isn't that much room for more tabs with laws, etc. either.

Thanks IsaacG!

Sometimes get this segfault hen conducting a mission.

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After doing a make install the terra vita office and other tv locations are a blank map.

Hmmm... it sounds like you're missing some maps from the dev/art directory. Can you look to see if there is a mapCSV_TerraVitaeHouse_Specials.csv in dev/art? There should be three TV maps in there.

I am testing it out, but it will be a little while before I get a squad ready to finish a mission, and see if I can replicate the error.

I do not get constant random segmentation faults, though, so I suspect that is something on your end.

Sorry for the late reply; the way that movies are planned to work are summarized in post #264.

Trump is something that can't exist in LCS at the moment: he's a member of the Conservative party that the regular conservatives in the legislature won't want to cooperate with.

I'd love to incorporate things like that into the Terra Vitae mod, but have so many other things I want to do first...

 

Wow, glad I get to see that you managed to spit in your doubters faces.

 

I don't know how helpful it will be, but I have a savefile that it has crashed every time.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/252oyws94md2cnz/saveTV1.0.dat
I attached my debugger to the process, and it didn't give any useful information.  It seemed to believe the game was exiting normally.

I am unable to load this save file whatsoever. I can try to run diagnostics on it to see where the load is failing, but the times that I have encountered this in the past is when trying to run with an incompatible version. Can you tell me if you are running any other mods as well with this?