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Actually, I think the problem is of a different nature.

Compared to other Roguelikes, Liberal Crime Squad is, in a word, easy. It's very forgiving - in most Roguelikes, a single simple mistake can cost you your game, and there are precious few safeguards to protect you from such unlikely but still very lethal mistakes. In LCS, you can have backup founders or even keep your founder out of danger entirely and rely on highly-skilled recruits. Players quickly master the game of Liberal Crime Squad and now, they want a challenge.

Hence, they invent more difficult methods of winning the game. Pacifist mode. Liberal Not-crime Squad mode. Talk about making the Stalinist Comerade Squad a genuine threat that requires careful planning to defeat, unlike the CCS which you can simply overwhelm and never have to face directly. And so on.


I can think of a wide variety of ways to make Liberal Crime Squad more difficult, and plan to implement some of them.

Hi! Off topic, but I hope you're enjoying your vacation

Yeah, something got clobbered in the game somewhere. Were you playing on the TV mod by any chance? If so, there is a (fixed in the latest release) bug that might cause that.

Well, I can tell you why it works that way. Each state has a political alignment bias, as well as a political alignment variable bias. This variable bias is a + or - on the state's alignment bias for any amendment, and is added (or subtracted) from the state's normal alignment bias. The apparent random behavior of states depends on this alignment variable. Again, some states aren't very variable, while others are quite variable.

And the alignment of the president and popularity of the LCS, and possibly popularity of the liberal in question.

Interesting idea

Bluffing is Disguise, not Persuasion, is the first criticism that I can think of. 

The more important questions that occur to me thereafter is what can be done at the casino apart from winning/losing money (which is a minor asset in LCS), and recruiting (which can also be done elsewhere very easily). Perhaps there should be a law about legalizing gambling that the casino should influence? I'm not sure what the liberal/conservative axes should be, though (do liberals support legalizing gambling or would conservatives support it?).

As for cheating, I would attach a cheating charge to getting caught cheating, and have a couple of bouncers at the door of the casino. The law won't care whether you're cheating or not, so you won't gain heat or any sentence that you wouldn't get for loitering. However, if you have cheating charges and try to walk into the casino, you will have to disguise and/or stealth your way past the bouncers or they will sound the alarm.

What do you think?

Purple Gorilla, while your Conservative arguments are correct in the context of a backwards Conservative viewpoint, it is also clear that you are not sufficiently Liberal.

Leilac, while it is clear that Purple Gorilla will need further enlightenment before xe may be considered a true Elite Liberal, I ask you to remember that executing a prisoner, even a Conservative automaton, will cause you and your contact(s) to lose Juice, so don't do it. Remember, we are the Liberal Crime Squad, not the Stalinist Comrade Squad (not yet, anyway).

:p



More seriously, yes, the game treats everybody as essentially bisexual, with one exception, this being that if your founder has a sleeper lawyer, this sleeper will automatically be of the opposite sex as your founder unless you choose the "gay" option earlier in your choices, in which case xe will automatically be of the same sex of your founder. Any Liberal can seduce anybody of either sex, though (although, for the moment, only Liberals are capable of seduction at all).

This is, indeed, unrealistic, but keep in mind that in the world of Liberal Crime Squad, what you see in (liberal) political cartoons is reality. Real American conservatives don't generally support censorship of free speech, and while they may support the use of the death penalty for serious offenses, they don't extend that to minor crimes, etc. And, in the real world, terrorism in the United States has generally been shown by history to be ineffective at getting the public to support the terrorists (in fact, the opposite happens more often), whereas in Liberal Crime Squad, it is quite effective. It's not supposed to be realistic.

Liberal Crime Squad is not a difficult game. The ability to protect your founder by having recruits do the dangerous stuff makes it a great deal more forgiving than most roguelikes.

Oh yeah, there are lots of crimes you can commit and get away with reliably, but relatively few ways of getting juice that don't involve some kind of crime! :p


Winning LCS without committing crime is hard, at least on nightmare mode (admittedly because in nightmare mode a lot of things are criminal that, well, shouldn't be - it's what the LCS is trying to fight, after all, is these unjust laws! )