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Its also worth noting that conjurers can get some nice benefits from Uskayaw. AOEs like Fireball or, eventually, Fire Storm are good at generating piety and should work quite nicely with the pain bond. Plus there's Grand Finale for killing the super durable Pan/Hell lords[In case you don't have a good supply of throwing nets/paralysis needles].

On a note of tougher/more complex gods to use, has anybody ever managed to do something useful with Fedhas?

Wandering mushrooms are very robust, especially since they're so easy to get, but are incredibly annoying to use because of their "Freeze whenever an enemy comes in sight" schtick. Oklobs are in a similar boat, except they deal more damage and are COMPLETELY immobile.

Quote from: Covenant on May 09, 2017, 02:49:00 pm

Quote from: Inarius on May 09, 2017, 01:24:36 pm

Question :

I chose Nemelex as god

I think I've identified your first mistake

Usually, explaining why a given choice is a mistake, or giving advice on how to make the best of that error, is more appreciated. I've seen a lot of "well, your probem is you are playing as an x" on DCSS threads. It's uninformative, unhelpful, and stale humor.

Eh, I think its fair enough here. Choosing Nemelex is basically asking for inventory management trouble[Unless you're a felid]. Really, just don't treat trash decks like valuable commodities and go absolutely ham with the good decks when trouble rears its distressingly furry head and Nemelex is a pretty solid god.

Quote from: Rethi-Eli on May 07, 2017, 08:22:58 pm

Anor londo silver knight archers

Time your rolls. If you just rollspam you'll run out of stamina, so learn when your iframes are.

Alternatively, two-hand a shield with a high Stability stat.

Yeah, honestly, that part you're at is the most annoying part of the game, including bonewheel skeletons. It helps to realize that as long as you're sprinting up the first set of ramps, they won't be able to hit you. Then, once you're at the same ledge the knights are on, charge the one to the right and get close enough that he pulls out his sword so you can melee him to death. This method has worked for me on several separate characters, several of whom had 0 poise and didn't use shields. Its still a goddamn pain though, especially since you have to redo the moderately dangerous bat demon fights every time.

I quite like how this turned out, especially since it took literally five minute to make.

Since Turkey is kind of relevant with their ties to the EU, and I can't recall any thread where it'd be more appropriate:

Turkey has blocked Wikipedia without giving a reason (But apparently they asked Wikipedia to remove content "supporting terror"(which, being Turkey, likely means "The truth")).

I imagine that the thing that annoyed them was probably the following bit:

The campaign was marred by allegations of state suppression against 'No' campaigners, while the 'Yes' campaign were able to make use of state facilities and funding to organise rallies and campaign events. Leading members of the 'No' campaign, which included many high-profile former members of the MHP such as Meral Akşener, Ümit Özdağ, Sinan Oğan, and Yusuf Halaçoğlu were all subject to both violence and campaign restrictions. The 'Yes' campaign were faced with campaigning restrictions by several European countries, with the German, Dutch, Danish and Swiss governments all cancelling or requesting the suspension of 'Yes' campaign events directed at Turkish voters living abroad. The restrictions caused a sharp deterioration in diplomatic relations and caused a diplomatic crisis between Turkey and the Netherlands. Concerns were also raised about voting irregularities, with 'Yes' voters in Germany being caught attempting to vote more than once and also being found to have been in possession of ballot papers before the overseas voting process had started. European election monitors said the vote did not meet international standards.

I imagine its probably kind of annoying for there to be a well-known and somewhat respected website presenting criticism of your farce of a coronation referendum.

Re: Temporal Wardens:

The key to being good with Temporal Wardens is realizing how good Phase Door runes are. Uncontrolled Phase Door is an absolutely TERRIBLE escape mechanism, even on a Skeleton who lacks movement infusions. But, especially as they become higher level, they grant you a very large out of phase buff that increases resist all and probably some other things. This is good on anyone, but ESPECIALLY on Temporal Wardens. This is because out of phase buffs are refreshed whenever a new one is added, instead of being overwritten. And Temporal Wardens have the Threaded Combat tree, which lets them get a small out of phase buff each time they teleport. So if you play your cards right, its quite possible to have 60-70% resist all up pretty much constantly.

As for prodigies... The first thing to keep in mind is that its never a bad idea to stockpile +stat gear to get abilities that are useful, but have stat requirements that don't match your class. Its harder without Heroism Infusions, but it should still be quite possible to qualify for Dex or Cun prodigies.

Prodigies that I'd recommend for skelewarden:

Windblade is good: It does good damage in a nice aoe and disarms to boot.

There's also Precise Shot or something long those lines, which does good damage and also probably stuns?

Cauterize keeps you from dying, which makes it the best prodigy.

Arcane Might is very good on magic/melee classes like TW, take it to get more damage

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Below this point are prodigies that I know less about, but are still good:

Draconic Body is OK, but worse then Cauterize.

Temporal Form is quite good... on Paradox Mage. For TW, its only so-so. The biggest draw is being able to lower resists in an aoe with a cooldown of zero, although the respen and stun immunity are non-trivial.

Draconic Will let's you stop caring about status effects... for five whole turns. Its probably stupid overpowered if you have cooldown mitigating stuff like Stone Wall, but I dunno how good it'd be on TW.

Superpower might be worth considering, since Willpower and Paradox get along nicely, but I think Arcane Might is better for TW since they care a bit more about spellpower then mindpower.

Yeah, your Dodging is very very low, as is your Armour. Since you've got Iron Shot at 1%, I'd train only those two skills until 15ish for Dodging and 11 for Armour. Then I'd recommend learning more spells, since you have a bunch of empty slots. Bolt of Fire/Magma have highly useful shapes and neither of them require more then 5-6 points of Fire Magic investment. The usual cheap utility spells like Blink, Summon Butterflies and Repel Missiles are as good as always and require little to no investment. I'd start looking for either a demon whip of elec/drain or a staff of earth since your current melee weapons are kind of wimpy. Evocations is quite useful, but Id only train it up to ~10ish on a conjurations specialist. The most useful wands are Acid[Does good damage in a line and its non-elemental] and Iceblast[Partially irresistable, undodgeable and in a good shape]. I'd probably also keep around a Digging wand for quick escapes[Although you might want to learn Passwall instead, since you're an EE] and a Lightning wand. The biggest draw of Evocations are the miscellaneous evocables like boxes of beasts and fans of gales. All of those are pretty robust panic buttons that can easily save your stony skin if you're in a bad situation.