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You know at the end of the day I'm not too concerned about the idiots of the past taking responsibility, as long as the US doesn't re-elect the same kind of idiots. Maniac is excusing Hillary Clinton's decisions as pragmatic. It's pragmatic because we are now excusing those decisions.

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So people should just ignore that the reasons for the war & deaths were flat out horse shit & to be honest obviously HS at the time? Bush took the US & the Australian/UK politicians of the time along in to a war on HS reasons & all we do is shrug? Well you got me there. Good lying. Well played. We'll just ignore that people died for no good reason? Forgive the sarcasm, but people did die because of this & when everyone else caught up on the lie. Nothing.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 18, 2015, 12:04:09 pm »
Damn. I always thought pilots made a decent living off their skill.
Apparently I was wrong.

Just googled the pay rate for pilots here (Australia) & the average is $68216 which isn't that high considering the job. I've meet a few people who were pilots & the amount of money you need to pay in flying lessons just to fly a commercial light aircraft is pretty high. Then you need to rack up a ridiculous no. of flight hours before they'll let you near a larger commercial jet. The upfront cost in training is a lot.

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Be careful, Asian tiger mosquitoes might try to sell you belts

Can see what Ispil means about picking by colour recognition.

Edit: The cloak being the wings is a nice touch

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@SG - I've read your post a few times now and I'm still not sure you aren't proposing the exact same thing your complaining about in the 1st place.

Mostly it's so vague in the details that it could mean a lot of things. However you've spent several posts talking about how there collecting so much information from social networks, then it seems you go on to suggest running things by collecting masses of information from social networks....

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: May 11, 2015, 01:45:18 pm »
Simplifying it to "language determines how you think" might be bull, but saying "language effects how you think isn't". Try modelling time differently in English without breaking the grammatical structure.

Why would we need different models of time? Does physics work differently in different languages? I'm aware other cultures have had different perspectives of time, but it seems more like a misunderstanding of how time works than an important part of culture.

& our culture doesn't have misunderstandings of time? A linear progression of cause & effect has a problem of needing a 1st cause or needs to be infinitely extendable backwards, ... or something else???. Extending backwards to infinity is problematic if time is traveling forwards at a finite rate. It's not that I don't think this problem doesn't have solutions but when I try & think about it my head feels locked in to thinking about time in a certain way. If I try thinking about different ideas to solve the problem in words my tenses end up jumbled, or I end up misusing temporal terms like "simultaneous".

Sorry if I'm derailing a politics thread with philosophy.

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: May 11, 2015, 09:49:40 am »

Well duuuh, but that's mostly because then I wouldn't have been brought up in the German culture either. These two go hand in hand most of the time, of course, but simplifying to 'Language determines how you think' is bull.

Simplifying it to "language determines how you think" might be bull, but saying "language effects how you think isn't". Try modelling time differently in English without breaking the grammatical structure. Try translating yogic terms from Sanskrit into English without fudging the meanings. Prana for example is energy, breathe, air. If you translate it as energy you lose the air bit if you translate it as air you lose the energy bit.

Edit: Heck, try translating maths in to any other language without distorting the meanings.

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Quote from: Andres link=topic=124253.msg6218326#msg6218326
We're currently dealing with one of the worst governments we've had in a while. Shark culls in WA, selling the GBR for untaxable profit, etc. They're at a 30% approval rating at the moment, I think.

Yeah though unfortunately they were unpopular at the last election & people still voted them in. The opposition actually has to present a viable candidate.

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: May 06, 2015, 11:20:28 am »
Also pretty sure if you tried to actually do that to the US the end result would be violent. A strong military power with a collapsing economy can be a messy situation.

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Why the wtf? Do you take the ramblings of every random academic seriously? Notice the light style of the writing. It's not written to be taken particularly serious. It only made print because it's a controversial view point & thus mildly interesting.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 26, 2015, 12:09:06 pm »

The way she moves her lips is silly.

"U kner nuthin, Hon Snew."

Hey. You try saying it & see how silly you look at below -30oC

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: April 26, 2015, 11:55:41 am »
@caroline - good luck with everything

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: April 26, 2015, 05:53:14 am »
As for immigration, I like the stance of Australia on this matter:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I can't say I like it. Have a look at the background of that picture, look particularly full? Considering the government here is actively trying to promote population growth for economic reasons it runs counter to logic.

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: April 26, 2015, 02:19:00 am »
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The work permit thing is a good step in the right direction, but I still don't think it'd be that effective, where would you find jobs for them, that the locals already don't want or need? Because for the most part, this is all unskilled labor coming in, so the most they can do is some sort of physical work (and not services either because I think most don't speak the language).
[...]

That is actually a myth. The people who manage to get as far as Europe are for a big part upper class. I don't have the numbers for the EU at hand, but in Austria (where I have work that involves refugees) 20,4% of those coming here have graduated from university. That is a lot more than the general population (14,6%). It is true that there are refugees with very poor education but on average they are actually higher skilled than the local population. There seems to be a rampant misconception that someone who can't express themselves properly (because it is not their language) is stupid or uneducated or something like that.

A friend from work is in this situation. Worked for the embassy back in Bangladesh. Here (Australia) he's stuck in a low end supermarket job. His qualifications from back home aren't taken serious. It's not even like his English is that bad. You can notice it's not his first language but he's easy enough to understand.

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Hmm, can't say I agree on that one. Whether using professional soldier or conscripts is more "moral" right or not (to me it's actually a nonsense question), I think that not forcing a person to kill or be killed is an improvement on the alternatives.

Whether killing a soldier or a civilian is worse or the same? Yeah it's debatable. I don't really care, I'll take what I can get here. Not killing civilians is 50% of the way there, if we could just get the other half right I'd be even more happy.

I'm pretty strongly a pacifist & while I'm not so much the idealist that I think we can get rid of wars & military without a lot of things in the world changing, I think the above 2 things are at least an improvement on the alternatives. To me it not about morality, a war is never right. It's about the least bad consequences & once you start justifying things like killing civilians & forcing people in to the army your just making a bad situation even worse.

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