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Quote from: Man of Paper on September 05, 2018, 03:20:23 pm

I love when people whine about balancing weapons in a purely co-op game. I know the Switch Axe and, at least it used to be, Insect Glaive are fucking ridonk, what's it matter? Not like we're actually competing. Yet.

While this sentiment is generally true, and is fucking awesome when it is true, it's entirely possible for co-op players to get unreasonably pissed off at anyone on their team bringing down the total efficacy by picking a sub-optimal weapon "because it's fun".

Agreed with Kagus - it doesn't bother me a great deal, but when you're trying to do a difficult quest and someone comes in with a very sub-optimal load out it can be really annoying. I'm not skilled enough at MH to know all that (or far enough through it) so it might not be a real problem, but I've played other games where you've got someone using something which is quantitatively rubbish slowing everything down.

I doubt it'll be short - CDPR have said it's "far, far bigger" than the Witcher 3. I do wonder if that's in gameplay scope rather than map size/stuff to do, but the last thing I imagine is that it'll be too short.

It all assumes CDPR will downgrade the game graphics and only focuses on that part (graphics). Understandably since that's all most of players looks for nowadays. I'm almost sure they will, unless they pull some magic hamsters from somewhere and put them in code. The only other way would be to tell everyone who thinks their "highend" out of the box system will run this on ultra with 60 fps: "You are reta*%ed". Keep in mind the game can have such high ultra specs even if low settings works great on potato. Not a single AAA company, even including CDPR, is going to do that until shooting is acceptable solution to people trying to lynch. This is modern playerbase problem - everything has to run on ultra with 60fps on hardware that some marketer sold as "will run everything".

Yes and No. Whilst I agree that people thinking that they'll be able to make it look like the demo with anything other than a monster system will be very disappointed, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't manage a bit of technical wizardry. The Witcher 3 pretty much managed to do the 'no outdoor loading' thing first and on an absolutely massive map, and the game looked incredible (regardless of downgrade) even without everything maxed. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have some technical tricks up their sleeve to make it work better than expected. I imagine a lot will be in the city design; they don't need to render far as it's all so densely packed and they can hide away anything that's a big render cost behind junk etc.

The main thing to bare in mind with expectations about CDPR is that they have the backing of an entire government - it's pretty much Poland's only cultural export so they've got a lot riding on it (the Polish PM even game Obama a copy of the Witcher 3...). So it's fair to say that they'll have a lot of support in getting everything cutting edge.

Right, so I move into my SCAD quarters Tuesday! Very exciting, a little nerve-wracking with all that's happened and all that could happen (for good or for ill).

I've got some plans on how to organize myself (scheduling out my assignments up front, keeping a daily schedule, doing SOMETHING every day, therapy, tutors, et al.) but going back to school... Well, it's a bit different, and I absolutely need to hit it out of the park. So I was just curious if any Bay12ers have any artistic, networking, or study habit advice for me now that I'm diving back in? Or even just advice on keeping your apartment clean, cooking, etc?

Learn to cook as your absolute first priority - it will save both your health and bank balance. Also, no matter how bad your day has been, coming home to fantastic food will cheer you up (it also helps no end in any romancing you may do!). Once you've got a few recipes down that you really like, you can start buying your main ingredients in bulk which is way cheaper, and you'll be able to prepare meals in advance. There are tons of recipe sites, but you can't go wrong with BBC Food and Jamie Oliver (as much as he grates on me).

I'd also strongly suggest the gym. Even if you're not a 'gym' person, it'll keep you healthy, more energetic and happy as well as help deal with stress. Getting a one off personal trainer session will sort you out if you're not sure what to do/need a plan. It's especially important at college where it's easy to just sit around all day not doing a lot. If you've got any health issues you can chat to them about it and they'll tailor something to you.

Lastly, make yourself a really good to-do list. You might think of programming your own as a bit of tech experience, but find something that works for you and use it religiously. Whilst not something I've done, I know a friend who teaches fine art, and they recommend that each morning when a student wakes up they put a fresh sheet of paper out on their desk, and that they fill it with *something* even if it's just 'I hate studying'. She's had a lot of good feedback on it.

Those things together will keep you in the best possible place to deal with studying, and keep you in the zone. Remember that motivation is nothing compared to discipline. We have a weird culture around motivation being the key to success - it's in all our films and media, but it's discipline that actually works.

Yeah graphics can always get overhauls - I'm also imagining that they may add options later on. Also, from what I've been reading Nvidia (of which CDPR is a big partner with) have a lot of features that devs should be able to drop in games that will improve them a lot with little work. This is a bit like the hairworks stuff there was before, but more general. This will probably allow for a bit more flexibility in graphical quality between console and PC releases

The one thing that did annoy me was the convo system having the 'short' options and then the player saying something completely different. Fallout was notorious for that:
Nice NPC: 'Hello, can I help you with this?'
Option1: yes, of course.
Option2: maybe, I guess.
Option3: no thank you.

*Pick option 2*
Player: FUCK YOU GUY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME SHOVE MY BULLETS IN YOUR FACE.

Normally a mod comes along that shows you what you'll actually say, but it annoys me so much when you don't actually know what you're going to say.

Quote from: Retropunch on August 30, 2018, 12:36:32 pm

Might be worth pushing this out to some of the bigger media outlets (RPS, PCgamer etc.)? It's been a while since it was mentioned and they've recently been doing quite a few 'complex' game bits.

Thing is, I've been stuck in a loop for some time in which I keep thinking that I should "just finish this one more release" before pushing the game out to a broader public. Then I inevitably get another idea I really like for the next release and postpone promoting it once again.

Yeah I think that's a common problem - I'd say it's about ready now, although you might want to think about doing one last 'ease of use' release where you concentrate on areas which are difficult for new players to grasp and think about any conveniences you can add for players. It's a very different sort of game to what the broader public are used to, so anything you can do to make things easier would be really welcomed.

Pretty sure they've confirmed this is 100% single player and offline.

I looked into it and it's confirmed that it's single player and offline at launch (or at least, they confirmed that a few months back so I guess it could change), but they're adding multiplayer post launch.

CDPR advertised jobs for multiplayer specialists specifically for this game, so I imagine it'll definitely be in and have an online component, but just not at launch - a bit like GTA.

I don't mind multiplayer as long as it doesn't affect the singleplayer experience, if any studio can get it right i'd imagine CDPR would.

I'm going to go ahead despite the ominous red warning to reconsider posting despite the lack of posts in the previous 120 days in this topic and let you know that a new release is up.

Always great to see an update, and I really appreciate you posting here. I know a lot of people here get their updates from posts here, so it's great to see it!

Might be worth pushing this out to some of the bigger media outlets (RPS, PCgamer etc.)? It's been a while since it was mentioned and they've recently been doing quite a few 'complex' game bits.

Looks really, really cool. Have to say I was a bit put off by some of the things that they said (multiplayer element, FPS, focus on combat etc.) but it looks really awesome and I am super hype. I think they've got the atmosphere 100% for a cyberpunk game, and the characters we've already seen seem really interesting. The constant swearing felt a little bit juvenile, but its easily overlooked.

My only worry is still the multiplayer aspect of it - I'm really hoping they keep it a completely optional part of it. I just don't want it to become a grind-fest or that they make all the cool stuff a bit lame to make sure all play styles are competitive etc.